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On Several Fronts, US Gov't Prepares To Regulate Online Privacy

storagedude writes "There are at least five US government efforts underway to regulate data and online privacy, according to a new US government internet policy official, who sees some kind of privacy regulation as likely. Ari Schwartz, who left the Center for Democracy and Technology two months ago to become senior internet policy advisor at the National Institute of Standards and Technology, says issues like Facebook's never-ending privacy concerns are making some kind of a national law or regulation more and more likely. He thinks segregating identity from data isn't enough; the data must then be aggregated after identity is stripped out. He also called for objective measures of privacy compliance."

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  1. Major intrusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    They are going to try to unmask anonymous first posters, and fine them.

    1. Re:Major intrusion by SudoGhost · · Score: 3, Insightful

      He thinks segregating identity from data isn't enough; the data must then be aggregated after identity is stripped out.

      I'm no lawyer or anything, but last time I checked, that was the opposite of unmasking anonymous posters.

  2. And one by one... by Jaysyn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And one by one all the bills will die on the floor as the campaign money comes rolling in.

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    1. Re:And one by one... by interkin3tic · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Are we sure all 5 of these are actually attempts to -preserve- privacy? Because if not, some of them might survive. "Regulation" to me doesn't mean "protection," skimming TFA didn't really clarify things any, and the bill is incomprehensible to me.

    2. Re:And one by one... by pitchpipe · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Facebook's never-ending privacy concerns are making some kind of a national law or regulation more and more likely.

      Looks like Facebook isn't ponying up enough lobbyists and campaign contributions. If they'd just do this and data-mine for the government, they'd probably be allowed to do everything they do plus install anal/brain probes on us.

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  3. Don't worry by davegravy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Maybe Facebook's, sure, but rest assured that the government won't limit their own ability to spy on you

  4. Re:Stand by... by EdIII · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That sounds a little bit sarcastic.

    It may not be a step towards government dictatorship, but it is a step towards an environment where an oppressive government could germinate rather quickly. Or did you mean government dictatorship in the context of regulations and Big Government?

    My first thought was that this is like having the fox guard the hen house. Considering how far the government has gone in the last 20 years to eliminate our rights to privacy, anonymity, and free communications in general I find it rather curious they are stepping up to protect us from Mr. Zuckerburg and evil Google.

    They are the least of my worries. After all, I am not forced to deal with them.

    While the government starts to create regulations that affect companies like Facebook and Google, I wonder why we so quickly forget its intentions to secure access to all encrypted voice communications? That development was quite recent, but let's forget that and talk about how people can see what I am doing with my chickens in Farmville. That is far more important right?

  5. Re:Double edged sword by s73v3r · · Score: 3, Insightful

    On the other hand, it puts an enormous burden on businesses

    Since when did not revealing my personal data become a "burden"?

  6. Re:Double edged sword by s73v3r · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes, yes you do. Not all industries start out with good practices. Better to tell them they can't do the bad stuff from the beginning, rather than them becoming dependent on doing the shitty stuff, and being unable to stop them without causing the industry to go tits up. While the industry is young, it can still evolve. Not so much after a while.

  7. Re:Stand by... by Caerdwyn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The US government is sufficiently large that there isn't a single entity which can be called "the government". One part may well be genuinely interested in protecting privacy, while another part is doing its best to have the Fourth Amendment repealed. Schizophrenic? Oh yes. It's also part of why trying to make plans on what the regulatory environment will be like in four years a complete crapshoot.

    There's also the matter than if the government acquires the ability to specifically regulate privacy on Internet sites (above and beyond the more basic "your Terms of Service say X, you did Y, you are in material breach of contract" which applies to all businesses), this forms precedent that the government has the power to regulate other things... content, access, reporting. Only the DHS and other jackboots would consider this a good thing.

    No new law or government entity is needed to enforce compliance with privacy statements. Facebook can be held liable for violating its Terms of Service, and fraud on the basis of saying "we don't do this" when they in fact do (and then profiting from it). We don't need a Department of Enforcing Internet Stuff; we just need a judge, a jury, a plaintiff, and a court date.

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  8. It's a little bloody late for that. by bmo · · Score: 4, Informative

    The EU and the Brits figured this out long ago. The British data protection act is a model of privacy protection that we should have emulated. But that was in the day that the world wide wibbley web was still very immature and back when moneyed interests weren't as powerful. Now there's so much inertia for data mining the web that this will never see the light of day outside any Senate or House committee.

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    1. Re:It's a little bloody late for that. by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 4, Informative

      The British data protection act is a model of privacy protection that we should have emulated.

      Actually, the DPA offers fairly poor privacy protection. It doesn't require opt-in before tracking personal data, for example, nor does it give you any right to demand that personal data held about you be removed from a system as long as that data is actually correct. In fact, it doesn't really offer any privacy guarantee at all in the traditional sense; we rely more on the provisions of the European Convention on Human Rights for such privacy protection as we do have.

      The real problem we have today is that in a world with massive databases, fast and cheap communications via the Internet, etc., traditional privacy standards don't actually protect the things they used to in any meaningful way. We need to consider why privacy is important, and establish social and legal norms that protect what matters, instead of trying to somehow adapt ideas that are decades out of date as if they are still going to protect individuals from abuse by larger and more powerful organisations today.

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  9. Rhythm by tepples · · Score: 3, Funny

    Bang on schedule.

    What does government advice about banging on schedule have to do with online privacy?

  10. Re:Stand by... by jbonomi · · Score: 4, Informative

    The US government is sufficiently large that there isn't a single entity which can be called "the government". One part may well be genuinely interested in protecting privacy, while another part is doing its best to have the Fourth Amendment repealed. Schizophrenic? Oh yes.

    Hey! That's not what schizophrenic means! You should instead have said "Does the US government appear to have dissociative identity disorder? Oh yes."

  11. Ownership rights by tombeard · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This crap is never going to stop until we clearly define who owns what data. Out current system says any data you collect is yours to do with as you please. I think we, as a society, need to change the definition. Henceforth, as proclaimed by me and everyone else that agrees, I am the sole owner of any and all data about myself. Sometimes we may share data, such as when I owe you money, but beyond that everything about me is mine, my location, purchases, height, weight, finger prints, DNA, medical history, library usage, bank balance and transactions, mood........ You may find you know some of these things about me. If you do, keep it to yourself and don't be caught recording it or selling it or aggregating it or I can sue you for theft of personnel data. All we need to do do is change the definition and this becomes possible.

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