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Hard-to-Read Fonts Improve Learning

arkenian writes "Difficult-to-read fonts make for better learning, according to scientists. The finding is about to be published in the international journal Cognition. Researchers at Princeton University employed volunteers to learn made-up information about different types of aliens — and found that those reading harder fonts recalled more when tested 15 minutes later. The article goes on to note a second test in a real school environment: 'Keen to see if their findings actually worked in practice, the Princeton University team then tested their results on 222 students aged between 15 and 18 at a secondary school in Chesterfield, Ohio.'... 'Students given the harder-to-read materials scored higher in their classroom assessments than those in the control group. This was the case across a range of subjects — from English, to Physics to History.'"

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  1. Comic Sans by zonker · · Score: 2, Informative

    But Comic Sans still makes you look stupid.

  2. But if you keep reading text in Wingdings, by abhishekupadhya · · Score: 2, Funny

    you'll be called a dingbat.

  3. Long term effect? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'd like to know the long term effect of this. What if the brain develops a better comprehension of the hard-to-read fonts, rendering all the re-printing meaningless?

    1. Re:Long term effect? by hedwards · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The long term effect is to ruin students ability to learn as you have to actually read it correctly first. Sure they retain the information, but they don't retain what's on the paper, they retain what they think the paper says. Which isn't always the same thing. All this is going to do is cause folks with what was a relatively minor learning disorder to have a really tough time.

  4. Think bigger! by Barny · · Score: 4, Funny

    Lets just write all text books in captchas.

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    1. Re:Think bigger! by sqldr · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm sorry, but typing one word in to get at pr0n is hard enough work. If you want me to type in the entirety of "death of a salesman" or "the Da Vinci code" then I'm leaving the internet.

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    2. Re:Think bigger! by pjt33 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I scared that you think "The da Vinci Code" is a textbook, or even something which might be used in English Literature classes. Very scared.

    3. Re:Think bigger! by moderatorrater · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You obviously haven't been in a public school English class recently. The good teachers are still good, but then you've got the "fresh from school and wanting to seem hip" teachers that will have you read something that's popular but substance-less to try to connect with you on your level, and you've also got the absolute idiot teachers who will have you read it and then write an essay on it so that they can finally understand the plots themselves. In case you think this is a total joke, the teacher who taught honors English in my high school had the class read "A Walk To Remember" and then watch the movie. She was a complete and total joke, and she was better than most of the English teachers at the school.

    4. Re:Think bigger! by liquiddark · · Score: 2, Informative

      Trying to get people to connect with literature on their own level is the very definition of a good English teacher, at least in the pre-grad-school-prep phase of english language study. If you can't understand the subject under study on your own terms there is literally no point in studying it for other reasons.

    5. Re:Think bigger! by Culture20 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Sounds like an improvement to me. Better than "The Grapes of Wrath" for sure. At least your average high school student might actually READ "The da Vinci Code".

      But your average high school student might actually BELIEVE "The da Vinci Code". I'd rather have them believe "The Grapes of Wrath".

  5. Not a surprise by trifish · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Instead of skimming, you are forced to actually read every word.

    Skimming is for getting an idea of what to expect to learn. Reading is for the actual learning.

    1. Re:Not a surprise by obarel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes, I had history textbooks with unreadable tiny font. No, it didn't make me a master of history, it just made me sleepy as I struggled to stay focussed AND fight the tiny font. Not much of it made its way into my brain, as I soon fell asleep.

      No idea how I passed the exam, I wouldn't be able to tell you what was in those books.

    2. Re:Not a surprise by tonycheese · · Score: 3, Funny

      Nothing is ever a surprise to the Slashdot crowd when they publish a study on it. Except, of course, when "correlation != causation!!!!!".

      I happen to find this extremely counter-intuitive.

    3. Re:Not a surprise by MagicM · · Score: 4, Funny

      I happen to find this extremely counter-intuitive.

      I knew you would.

  6. Re:Comic Times New Roman, anyone? by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Informative

    I think it's obvious (heh heh) that it forces you to think about the content in order to read it, when using a font which requires no conscious thought to process results in more flow with less processing and thus less retention. Perhaps future systems will sense the user's level of interest and change fonts dynamically to keep them learning.

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  7. Maybe they're misinterpreting the results by stalkedlongtime · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you're asking someone to absorb fluff (like nonsense about aliens) then perhaps it's a good idea to manufacture 'disfluency' with odd fonts and the like.

    If you're asking someone to absorb difficult material (like Knuth or advanced physics) then you want to minimize other sources of 'disfluency'.

    1. Re:Maybe they're misinterpreting the results by Orgasmatron · · Score: 2, Informative

      That word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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    2. Re:Maybe they're misinterpreting the results by ZirconCode · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Theres also a difference of the persons willingness to learn. A person will only try to learn deeper material, ex. Knuth, if they want to, in which case they will. If the person is however forced to learn the US Consitution amendments by memory, theres a small chance that they will. Unless theyre a lawyer of course, in which case its a totally acceptable thing to do. Of Course.

    3. Re:Maybe they're misinterpreting the results by ET3D · · Score: 2, Informative

      You comment shows that you should change the font on your browser to something less readable, since you completely missed the part about the research done on highschool children with actual real world material.

  8. Printed or On Screen? by srussia · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The comparative readability of Arial is not the same on-screen and on paper. Here's the account in the Economist: Learning difficulties. It mentions "tests" that had determined readability, but alas no reference to the specific study.

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    1. Re:Printed or On Screen? by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 4, Informative

      More important than that: the font samples provided online were wrong. The test was a comparison between Comic Sans and Bodoni, which is a modernist serif typeface commonly used in the titles of fashion magazines and for the main text in (ugh) my physiology textbook. I had wondered why, since its elegance is grating after a while—I guess I know now, which means this study is already old news. Wikipedia on Bodoni.

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  9. What if the S's look like F's? by Shag · · Score: 3, Funny

    Lots of people can remember things that were written in fancy script, like parts of the Declaration of Independence and Constitution*.

    Come to think of it, this bodes well for my kid's lousy writing - people will at least remember what she wrote, once they decipher it.

    *Exception made for Christine O'Donnell

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    1. Re:What if the S's look like F's? by hedwards · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not really, doctors are being allowed to write in their own script less and less because of all the medical errors associated with poor penmanship. At my doctor's office, all the communication is typed, so the likelihood of mistakes due to poor penmanship is eliminated.

  10. Dear Slashdot by Alsee · · Score: 4, Funny

    Slashdot please allow me to post in Wingdings font and Symbol font. Posting in Italics TT does not make it not hard enough to read.

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  11. don't rewrite textbooks in Comic Sans just yet ... by ekrock · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There are a few more questions to answer. (1) How long did subjects spend reading the Comic Sans documents vs. the Arial documents? If they spent more time reading the Comic Sans documents, that could explain the difference. (2) If they spent longer reading the Comic Sans versions, what was their net learning productivity after factoring the additional time in? (3) Could novelty explain the effect by obtaining greater attention? If we reprinted all textbooks in Comic Sans and similar fonts from hell, would the effect go away? (4) What would be the effect on children of a childhood spent reading books in Comic Sans? Would they be willing to put up with reading if all their books were printed in fonts designed to slow and torment the reader?

    The only way you'll get my Arial is by prying it out of my cold, dead hands!!!

    The invention and proliferation of Comic Sans was essentially an accident. This study takes "unintended consequences" to a whole new level!

  12. Re:Comic Times New Roman, anyone? by Kilrah_il · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because it seems counter-intuitive, I really liked the following sentence:

    ...Keen to see if their findings actually worked in practice..."

    Often times we see studies done in labs and, because it doesn't look reasonable to us, we quickly dismiss it by saying "Well, it would never work in real life." Here, at least, they tried it in real life. It's not a long-term study, so there are still shortcomings, but it's better than the usual Social Studies experiments.

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  13. Small Font BS, Bunk Study by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wait until your 50. The only thing small fonts do is make your head burn out in 2 hours, and oh yeah that DTV Channel Master, I can't read a damn thing unless I am two feet away from the set. But your test was 18 yr old kids, they'll have perfect vision and be awake three days at a time. The whole premise here is BS , next you'll be telling us Graffiti Fonts are the best for working with the asm disassembler..

  14. Time constraints and the real world by arikol · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Ok, what about having to read all courses in illegible fonts. will the time allotted suffice?

    It's rather obvious that slowing down the reading gives better retention, this fact is well known within psychology and cognitive science. But using this method of slowing students down may impact their overall score, as they don't have time to read everything they are supposed to.

    110 out of 100 in history, 5 out of 100 in psychology because you only managed to read the first chapter..

  15. Re:Comic Times New Roman, anyone? by rts008 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Pay no attention to 'WindWraith'. You're doing it right.

    *shakes fist at 'WindWraith' for discouraging good behavior/mindset*

    I envy youth and their good eyesight. Hell, I miss my own good eyesight when I was younger!

    As an 'older than dirt, had to fight dinosaurs on my ten mile trek[one way] UPHILL, in a blizzard/sandstorm- both ways! to school everyday' crowd, I appreciate your efforts and way of thinking about web page design.

    As an avid reader, I appreciate good text fonts both in real paper books, and various forms of e-books.
    Tri-focal lenses, macular degeneration, and just plain old age changes your perspective and outlook!

    I frequently read some comments here regarding screen resolution[and similar], and am struck with both amusement and envy. I seem to ask myself EVERY time two questions anymore:
    How do they even see/distinguish crap that small?
    Why are they going through that hassle?
    Damn, I'm REALLY getting old!

    BTW, if you are reading this reply, 'WindWraith', please take the comment as 'tongue-in-cheek' humour/sarcasm.
    You do provide a valid and insightful comment about memories, IMHO.

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    Hey you young punks, get off my lawn!

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  16. Re:don't rewrite textbooks in Comic Sans just yet by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Arial? Verdana, my friend. Arial is a cheap whore compared to the lady Verdana. Guess why Arial was created by Microsoft originally?

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  18. Runic by BlackHawk-666 · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is why I insist on doing all of my reading in Runic :D

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runic_alphabet

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  19. Re:Comic Times New Roman, anyone? by dintech · · Score: 2, Funny

    Time to format those TPS reports with wing-dings...

  20. Re:don't rewrite textbooks in Comic Sans just yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Arial? Verdana, my friend. Arial is a cheap whore compared to the lady Verdana. Guess why Arial was created by Microsoft originally?

    It wasn't created by Microsoft. It was originally made for IBM by Monotype in the early 80s, when it was known as Sonoran Sans (similarly, Times New Roman was originally called Sonoran Serif). Microsoft then licensed these from Monotype and renamed them Arial and TNR, respectively. But don't let little facts get in the way of your hatred of Microsoft.

  21. Re:Comic Times New Roman, anyone? by DamonHD · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Possibly unlike you I like to type it out each time to remind myself that I'm communicating with real human beings with opinions and egos and values of their own. Putting it in a sig would be like the plastic smiles and pre-recorded ersatz "have a nice day" of some establishments.

    If you don't understand the virtue of remembering to treat humans as humans each time, then I suggest that you take your insult back and shove it somewhere.

    Damon

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  22. Explains LaTeX by QuantumFlux · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This totally explains why academics love the shit text that comes out of LaTeX (not the layout; it's fine -- I'm talking about that awful default font).