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FBI and NYPD Officers Sent On Museum Field Trip

In an attempt to "refresh their sense of inquiry" FBI agents, and NYPD officers are being sent to a course at New York's Metropolitan Museum of Art. The Art of Perception hopes to improve an officers' ability to accurately describe what they see during an investigation by studying art. From the article: "Amy Herman, the course leader, said: 'We're getting them off the streets and out of the precincts, and it refreshes their sense of inquiry. They're thinking, "Oh, how am I doing my job," and it forces them to think about how they communicate, and how they see the world around them.' Ms Herman, an art historian, originally developed the course for medical students, but successfully pitched it as a training course to the New York Police Academy."

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  1. And only 5 paintings and sculptures were shot by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The New York Police Department calls the trip a "resounding success." Though several paintings and sculptures were shot multiple times during the trip, an internal NYPD investigation has confirmed that the pieces of art were apparently reaching for weapons when they were fired upon. "Yeah, sounds like a clean kill to me," said Officer Leo Sekonsky, in reference to an incident that left Vincent van Gogh's "Self-Portrait with Straw Hat" in tatters. "That Van Gogh was definitely reaching for a knife or some shit. Ain't no one gonna say different."

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    1. Re:And only 5 paintings and sculptures were shot by Coren22 · · Score: 4, Funny

      They also repeatedly tazed a statue until it stopped resisting arrest.

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    2. Re:And only 5 paintings and sculptures were shot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      However, they steadfastly deny any knowledge of how a statue carved in black marble got a broomstick and three flashlights shoved up its ass.

    3. Re:And only 5 paintings and sculptures were shot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hey why all the negativity? It got numerous armed and dangerous people off the street for a short time and the crime rate more than likely fell to.

      Win/Win

  2. Meditation by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It sounds like an attempt at filling the gap left by the lack of meditation our society experiences. Nobody plays Go (or Chess; but Go is a superior game), nobody quietly contemplates, nobody does listening meditations or anything. The most basic are breath awareness exercises-- sit quietly, close your eyes, observe the sound of the air passing through your nose and into your lungs, how your chest and belly expand, how your body shifts... then focus as well on your heart beat, and then add the focus of your attention on your muscles adjusting to hold your posture against gravity, shifting your balance constantly. All of these things at once, just for a minute or two, or an hour if you wish; time is a personal decision.

    We do none of this stuff, and then we sit around wondering why people are bad at observing things. People want answers to shit; we still want to understand what's happening around us. But we've trained ourselves to be intolerant of the task of observation. We want to look, see, and understand; but our minds are looking for an ANSWER, not simply looking. So we don't understand what we're seeing, and we can't form a viable answer of what's going on around us.

    It's like when you put a can of soup to the right of a jar of mayonaise in the cabinet. Then you open the cabinet and somebody moved the mayo a foot to the left next to a bottle of oil, and you spend 10 minutes trying to find it. You NEED it to be there, because you don't know HOW to observe and understand.

    Here we have an attempt to make people stop, relax, stare and contemplate the art, the sculptures. Talk about what they see. A hollow attempt to regain these abilities that we no longer have.

    The sad part is this is all completely whacked out and ridiculous ... and that I'm right.

    1. Re:Meditation by MaWeiTao · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I generally agree with all the points you made. But something stuck out to me:

      Nobody plays Go (or Chess; but Go is a superior game)

      I have to ask: why is Go superior to Chess? Easier to pick up? More possible permutations? It was created in China as opposed to Chess which is a Western game?

      I don't see how any of these reasons make Go inherently superior to Chess. Hell, even Checkers is a pretty damn good game and there are a million other good ones out there.

      If you prefer Go, that's great, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's better than anything else.

    2. Re:Meditation by vlm · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I have to ask: why is Go superior to Chess?

      You get more meditative observation of symmetry and pattern matching out of the simple rules of Go, than the relatively much more complicated rules of Chess.

      Go is more about the patterns of pieces whereas Chess is more about the interactions between the different rulesets for pieces.

      The board for checkers is way too small to develop exciting patterns to watch.

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    3. Re:Meditation by Labcoat+Samurai · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well this is odd. I do not recall clicking the button to post anonymously. And yes, I realize the irony of that.

  3. Cue scene from L.A. Story. by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 4, Funny
    This made me think of the scene in the movie L.A. Story, where Harris K. Telemacher (Steve Martin) is describing an off-screen painting, which then turns out to be composed of all red paint:
    • I like the relationships. Each character has his own story.
    • The puppy is a bit too much, but you have to overlook that.
    • The way he's holding her, it's almost... filthy.
    • He's about to kiss her and she's pulling away...
    • The way his leg is smashed up against her...
    • Look how he's painted the blouse, sort of translucent,
    • You can make out her breast, and it's sort of touching him...
    • It's really pretty torrid, don't you think?
    • And of course you have the onlookers peeking out like they're all shocked.
    • They wish.
    • I must admit, when I see a painting like this, I get emotionally...Erect.
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  4. Make them live in a housing project for a week... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...that will refresh the sense of inquiry much, much better.

  5. If you teach police to think, do you by blair1q · · Score: 3, Funny

    end up with thought-police?

    1. Re:If you teach police to think, do you by blair1q · · Score: 2, Funny

      Only in Brooklyn.

  6. Faux pas by Alsee · · Score: 5, Funny

    The program will be canceled about 12 seconds after the first officer on the witness stand describes a rape victim as "Rubenesque".

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  7. Your rights online? by BatGnat · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why is it labeled your rights online?

  8. Re:Make them live in a housing project for a week. by Shark · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'd go even cheaper: Make them read the constitution they swore an oath to defend.

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  9. Just like with the Apollo moon landing... by HockeyPuck · · Score: 2, Informative

    Looks like the NYPD is taking a page out of NASA's preparation for the moon landing. Where Apollo astronauts worked with geologists to better be able to describe what they saw while they were on (or flying above) the moon's surface. Instead of calling something a gray rock, they could give it a more scientific and accurate description.

  10. "Your Rights Online"? by JimTheta · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why is this filed under "Your Rights Online"?

    Because it involves cops...?

    1. Re:"Your Rights Online"? by Baby+Duck · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It would be more apt to file it under "Your Rights Deniers Offline"

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  11. Actually chess has an Eastern origin as well by sgtrock · · Score: 2, Informative

    The game is thought to originated somewhere in the border country of India and Afghanistan around 600 A.D. It came to Europe via Arabic traders a few hundred years later.

  12. Excellent idea by Mad-cat · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Observation is a learned skill, and anything that makes police better observers is great in my book.
    I train my fellow officers in some simple observation exercises. My favorite takes place during meal breaks.

    When sitting down at a restaurant, I instruct them to maintain eye contact with me, but describe every article of clothing the person at the table next to us is wearing. By forcing them to use their peripheral vision to gather details, they slowly learn to better use their unfocused vision and not get easily distracted. It's also a lot of fun.

    For the less-than-willing male officers, I tell them it means they can check out women without actually looking at them...

  13. Probably even more effective... by toby · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Would be teaching them to DRAW.

    Which is also about learning to see.

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  14. Re:Make them live in a housing project for a week. by Oxford_Comma_Lover · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Reading the constitution isn't nearly enough to understand even the hundredth part of it, much less to understand why it matters that we defend it.

    One simple example: we tell kids it takes a simple majority of Congress to pass a bill into law, then a 2/3rds majority to overrule the president's veto, and we give them the constitution to read. But technically, Congress can pass laws any way it wants for the initial passage--it can deem them passed, or require sixty votes to end a philibuster, or require a unanimous vote. Just reading the constitution without thought isn't enough, and even with thought isn't enough, unless you're actually studying it.

    Another example: Miranda rights are NOT in the constitution. The Supreme Court made them up a few years ago as a way to protect constitutional rights and has been slowly taking them away since.

    Another example: There is a debate over changing the language of the Fourteenth Amendment to not grant citizenship to the children of illegal immigrants. The sentence they're thinking about changing is the one we insisted on writing in because of the civil war--it's what we fought the civil war over: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." To the casual reader, it just seems to make people born here citizens of the US--but in reality, it granted black northerners *federal* citizenship, as opposed to merely state citizenship, meaning the federal government now had a legal avenue to fight discriminatory state action.

    It would take a year of a *good* school for most of us to begin to understand the constitution.

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