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The Hobbit To Be Filmed In New Zealand After All
An anonymous reader writes "John Key, Prime Minister of New Zealand, has confirmed this afternoon that The Hobbit will be filmed in NZ, after weeks of uncertainty. From the article: 'The future of the $670m production hung in the balance after an actors union issued a no-work order on the films last month. Talks were held overnight with studio executives from Warner Brothers to resolve concerns about industrial laws in New Zealand.'"
I can't wait to see the Duke Nukem Forever trailer that's debuting with it.
If Flight of the Conchords taught me nothing else, it's that New Zealand is the happening place to be (it's like Scotland, only further) and a great place to film The Hobbit. It's an excellent location for more walking.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
"Industrial laws"? Nice euphemism. Yet another example of how unions exist to keep unions existing.
You could say that New Zealand bribes Warner to get the Hobbits. From TFA: "Mr Key also announced The Hobbit will get a $20million ($15m US) tax rebate - US$7.5m per film" and "The Government will also offset U$10m of Warner Brothers' marketing costs."
...and Bilbo paid the actors union the funds they wanted, and everyone lived happily ever after.
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They are a very happy folk.
While some of what you say is true, as one who works in a forced union environment, I can tell you that currently the main goal of unions is not protection of the worker, but the protection of the lazy and incompetent so they, the unions, can continue to siphon money from the workers.
The unions will use any excuse for why someone who literally does nothing all day should not lose their job. It's job protection, pure and simple, and has nothing to do with making the workplace safer. It's to protect their own interests which is money from nothing so they can party. Period.
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
Yes, the talk has been all about making two films since the project was declared, and I for one welcome it.
I had several complaints about LoTR (the most significant being "The Two Towers" turning into "The Battle of Helms Deep: A Love Story") and a lot of them were simply the impossibility of fitting so much material into "movie time". If Jackson had had the green light for 4 LoTR films, or 5, or 6, we might have seen Bombadil, we might have seen Sharkey, a lot of background might have been filled in, etc.
Also, you can skip decent sized swaths of LoTR after you say "and then they walked for a month", which can take whole chapters in LoTR where each individual leaf on every tree is exhaustively examined and described. :) The Hobbit is a shorter book than any of the three LoTR volumes, but it's a faster-paced book with lots more action. It's more of a children's book than LoTR, so a lot happens in fairly short amounts of time. There's easily two movies' worth of material there, and I'd rather have Jackson take his time and tell a broader and more comprehensive story than try to cram "There and Back Again" into 90 minutes.
Plus, of course, there's more money in two films.
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Where management has a hostile attitude towards their workers and labour laws are week --- unions are the only thing that can protect the works from abuse. But... there does come a point when they no longer serve any meaningful purpose. Instead of going away they tend to become corrupt and expansionist.
And get off my lawn.
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i have a great example from my beautiful country - coal mining in Poland.
Situation is simply ridiculous. I don't know if the Polish coal mines have been profitable for more than 2 years in the last 2 decades. They are not a private business, they cost the budget a metric fuckton of cash in taxes they can't and don't pay, yet the miners are the holy cows - they get 13th and 14th salaries, have shitload of other bonuses and can retire much much earlier than the ordinary taxpayer. And there is way too many of them. IIRC in the last 20 years coal mining sucked in something between 10 and 20 gigadollars of taxpayer's money, which is a respectable score for a rather poor by european standards sub-40million country. I've found some data from 2003 - in the Coal Company which manages several mines there were 28(!) unions.
When they don't like the ideas discussed in the parliament, they gather in Warsaw, demolish the streets, burn tires, throw stones and bricks and in the end they get any shit they want from the spineless politicians. Nobody can touch miners and their unions.
At least in this case worker unions are a fucking parasite and should be blasted into oblivion.
Hollywood is extremely, EXTREMELY heavily unionized. For such a specialty kind of setup it is rare to see that many unions. Everyone is in a union, the actors, directors, writes, casting agents, etc, etc. Been that way for a LONG time too, it isn't like they unionized a couple of years ago. The Screen Actors Guild started in 1933. Also many of the unions have larger union connections. The SAG is part of the AFL-CIO, as an example.
So, that being the case, why the fuck is Hollywood Accounting still around if the unions can force change? You telling me that all those unions working together somehow just haven't been powerful enough? The unions that control essentially everyone on the production of a movie, including the big names and important talent?
Ya right.
Rather you find that they do as unions are wont to do today in that they work to better and perpetuate themselves within the system. They are fine with Hollywood Accounting fucking all kinds of people, including the government, they just figure out ways to work the system. Their members get paid, they can tell people how to work within the game, but they do nothing at all to change it.
Sorry man, but if ever there was an example of unions NOT forcing change, it'd be in Hollywood. They actively fight against change.
...and screw over the UK for years to come