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Adobe Warns of Critical Flash Bug, Already Being Exploited

Trailrunner7 writes "On the same day that it plans to release a patch for a critical flaw in Shockwave, Adobe confirmed on Thursday morning that there is a newly discovered bug in Flash that is being actively exploited already in attacks against Reader. The vulnerability affects Flash on all of the relevant platforms, including Android, as well as Reader on Windows and Mac, and won't be patched for nearly two weeks. The new Flash bug came to light early Thursday when a researcher posted information about the problem, as well as a Trojan that is exploiting it and dropping a pair of malicious files on vulnerable PCs. Researcher Mila Parkour tested the bug and posted a screenshot of the malicious files that a Trojan exploiting the vulnerability drops during its infection routine. Adobe has since confirmed the vulnerability and said that it is aware of the attacks against Reader."

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  1. I need this on my iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I hope Apple and Adobe come to an agreement because I want to live on the edge too.

  2. Abode Is The Weakest Link by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Adobe's Acrobat, Reader & Flash are the weakest security links on any PC. This isn't really news any more ... it's expected.

    1. Re:Abode Is The Weakest Link by blair1q · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why the FUCK does a document display program have the ability to alter anything on my machine?

    2. Re:Abode Is The Weakest Link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Mostly because they have to keep the developers working and the shareholders thinking they are making progress toward more money. In reality Adobe is fast becoming a second rate company. I never thought that would happen ten years ago, but sure enough here we are.

    3. Re:Abode Is The Weakest Link by TheReaperD · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Two words: Feature Creep

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    4. Re:Abode Is The Weakest Link by Dr+Herbert+West · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sure-- HTML5 is rapidly becoming the platform of choice for interactive application development, with its stability, widespread browser support, and cross-browser compatibility to... wait, what?

    5. Re:Abode Is The Weakest Link by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The sad thing is that it took Reader about 3 or 4 versions not to be complete crap and the moment it actually got good they started bloating it almost as much as Emacs, except with stuff that is neither cool and powerful nor useful to the vast majority of users.

      What should be a simple lightweight document viewer now requires an installer a significant fraction of the size of an entire Windows installation from just a decade or so ago.

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    6. Re:Abode Is The Weakest Link by mkro · · Score: 4, Informative

      The problem is that it is not "only supposed to be a document display". Someone gave a pretty good summary on Reddit about a month ago. The conclusion is that Adobe Reader is most likely overkill for 90% of the users, and you should stick to something like SumatraPDF or Foxit.

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    7. Re:Abode Is The Weakest Link by GameboyRMH · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually there is no malicious code in the link whatsoever. It links to TinyURL, a url shortening service. When a URL is submitted to TinyURL, the site stores the URL in a database and gives you a short lookup code that can be used with the service, allowing you to dispense shorter URLs that lead to longer ones. However this can allow URL obfuscation.

      The troll has created a TinyURL link to the infamous goatse website, which displays a large photo of a naked man stretching his anus to Brobdingnagian proportions. He then placed a link in his Slashdot post, claiming that it links to exploit code or an attack site, which many Slashdotters would be interested in visiting, confident that their computers are immune. The troll hopes to get users to blindly follow the link, leading to a faceful of digital anus, producing lulz for the troll.

      However experienced uber-geek users such as myself know that TinyURL offers a preview service, which can be used at any time by changing a TinyURL link from the format "tinyurl.com/whatever" to "preview.tinyurl.com/whatever," allowing a potential visitor to see where the link leads before proceeding. I did this and confirmed my suspicions that the link leads to the troll's shock site of choice, goatse.

      Upon discovering the troll's weak attempt at trolling a group of technically advanced users with a technically weak trolling method, I then exposed his attempt and derided his weak trolling skills and lack of trolling experience.

      I hope this answers your questions, I hate writing.

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  3. Adobe sucks. by RocketRabbit · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Isn't Flash supposedly sandboxed? And, what the hell is Flash doing in a PDF viewing utility?

    I think it's about time to go from using Click2Flash to just deleting the Flash plugin completely.

    1. Re:Adobe sucks. by zuperduperman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah, I was kind of shocked by that. I disable Flash by default everywhere but so far have let PDF plugins stay because I need them for a lot of things and hey, it's a freakin document format! Now I find out that Reader is linked to both executable Javascript AND Flash. And anybody sending me a simple PDF document could be exploiting holes in any of those. What a nightmare.

    2. Re:Adobe sucks. by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 4, Funny

      Isn't Flash supposedly sandboxed? And, what the hell is Flash doing in a PDF viewing utility?

      Sandboxed? More like litter boxed.

  4. In other news by Yvan256 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In other news, Steve Jobs now has even more arguments to push aside Flash and Shockwave.

    Wait, Shockwave? That thing is still alive?

  5. We really need to sandbox all browser sessions by davidwr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Attention browser developers:

    Start sandboxing the browser so that by default, plug-ins are sandboxed from each other and from instances of each other in other "sessions" and they are not allowed a persistent storage.

    Any user-initiated visit to a web site would be a new session.

    Unless the end-user overrode the settings, only highly trusted plugins would be allowed persistent local storage and cross-session communication, and one of the criteria of being "trusted" is that the browser validated the plugin against a list of known-clean plugins in the last few hours.

    Basically, if you aren't trusted, you get a very limited view of the local computer and once you quit, you get amnesia.

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    1. Re:We really need to sandbox all browser sessions by 0123456 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Attention browser developers:

      Start sandboxing the browser so that by default, plug-ins are sandboxed from each other and from instances of each other in other "sessions" and they are not allowed a persistent storage.

      Or run Linux and use an Apparmor wrapper to prevent Flash from doing anything bad if it's compromised.

      On my systems it can't read much of anything, can't write to anything other than /tmp and its own config files, and web sites can't download flash turds to track me... all enforced by the kernel.

  6. Relevant? Bah by markdavis · · Score: 3, Interesting

    >"The vulnerability affects Flash on all of the relevant platforms, including Android, as well as Reader on Windows and Mac"

    What horrible wording. One could read that to mean Linux is not a "relevant platform" in general, or that the vulnerability can't use the exploit to do anything to a Linux system or several other things.

    From the article:

    "A critical vulnerability has been identified in Flash Player 10.1.85.3 and earlier versions for Windows, Macintosh, Linux and Solaris; Adobe Flash Player 10.1.95.2 and earlier versions for Android; and the authplay.dll component that ships with Adobe Reader 9.4 and earlier 9.x versions for Windows, Macintosh and UNIX, and Adobe Acrobat 9.4 and earlier 9.x versions for Windows and Macintosh."

  7. Re:Why two weeks to fix? by mean+pun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can someone please explain to me why it will take Adobe two weeks to get a patch out?

    They need to come up with a reliable way to fix this, make absolutely sure it actually fixes the problem, and then make sure the patch doesn't cause crashes on any of the OS variants out there. Otherwise the chaos would be worse. Plus, you don't give a optimistic estimate right at the start.

    (Look how Chile handled that for the mining disaster. They started with a safe estimate, and got praised for beating their own deadline. Imagine the reactions if they had been too optimistic in their original estimate.)

  8. Re:There's a safe alternative! by Jahava · · Score: 3, Informative

    And the same thing could be said about Flash too.

    There's little-to-no practical opportunity to choose a Flash implementation, and Flash is not open-source, so we cannot secure it ourselves. Nothing you said is true.

  9. Re:Two weeks by today · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Just a guess, but removing authplay.dll might help mitigate the Reader portion of this exploit. I generally do that after every Reader upgrade because a similar vulnerability happened once before. Besides, who ever uses Flash inside a PDF document anyway?

  10. Ironic by Kazymyr · · Score: 4, Funny

    Am I the only one who finds it ironic that a web site that warns of a critical bug in the Flash player tries to install the Flash plugin?

    (yes, I don't have Flash installed anywhere and so the linked web page demands to install it)

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  11. Re:OS makers not helping much either by GameboyRMH · · Score: 3, Informative

    There are many approaches. Sandboxing is one, there's Sandboxie for Windows. On Linux you could use SELinux, or AppArmor which is much more user-friendly and is ultra-convenient on Ubuntu - profiles for Firefox (with Flash) and evince are installed by default and are updated automatically with the programs.

    I don't know what the options are on OSX, since I have no possible use for the OS myself.

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  12. Understand Apple a bit better? by Caerdwyn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is why Apple no longer ships Flash pre-installed, and why they do their own PDF readers. Regardless of any tiffs (or .TIFFs, har! see what I did there?) between Adobe and Apple, I'm sure that Adobe wants its products preinstalled in OSX. Even through its contentious history with Adobe, Apple has preinstalled Flash for many software releases now because it made business sense to do so. It no longer does.

    Recent trends show that Adobe is the most readily-exploited software vendor (per US-CERT). Critical flaws are being discovered faster than operating system installer "golden images" can be put through the update-certification-release cycle. Any version of Flash or Acrobat/Reader that is incorporated into an OS golden image will almost certainly be vulnerable by the time a system with that OS installed reaches a customer. You're going to have to update the moment you're out-of-box, so why pre-install something you're going to have to patch anyway (assuming you patch at all)? And Apple can't autopatch it... their Software Update only updates Apple products (i.e. products which they actually have the legal right to patch).

    And, of course, the headlines would (and do) read "Macs being exploited" instead of "Adobe being exploited". Apple doesn't want that, and is in a position to do something about it.

    Do we perhaps understand why Apple does some of the things it does a little better now? Do we perhaps understand why Microsoft doesn't include Flash/Reader as part of its OS? Does Adobe need to get its goddamned act together before they start throwing rocks at OS vendors?

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    1. Re:Understand Apple a bit better? by edelbrp · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And, thankfully, content providers still want their stuff to work on computing devices (like iPhones and iPads) that don't support Flash and so are providing non-Flash alternatives. That's not just good for Apple customers, but everybody in the long run.

    2. Re:Understand Apple a bit better? by cbhacking · · Score: 3, Informative

      You do realize that Apple's PDF reader is *WAY* less secure than Adobe's, right? We're talking 15x as many exploitable vulnerabilies across the same test set of fuzzed files. Adobe and their miserable security practices are a scourge the computing world, you hate their stuff, you remove it all from the computer.. OK, fine. You go with an alternative that has more than an order of magnitude worse security... wait, what?!?

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  13. Re:Code Exploit Discovery Automation by Statecraftsman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There's no correlation between age of a product and security. If anything the older the project and more nebulous the code base, the less likely anyone inside Adobe even understands it all. I use sumatrapdf and evince so I'm not affected personally but I think the only hope is either replacement or freeing the source code for the product. From a business perspective, Adobe will only go and fix bugs that become a big enough PR disaster that they can't ignore them. There would also need to be a viable alternative to their products.

    Similarly to how Microsoft has had to acknowledge OpenOffice, at some point hopefully GIMP and Inkscape and other creative tools will cause Adobe to address their own issues. The software industry has a serious lack of competition and without free software that closely mimics commercial products, it's hard to imagine anything improving substantially in the near future.

  14. Re:How to prevent Reader from using Flash? by GameboyRMH · · Score: 4, Informative

    Huh didn't know there was a Windows port of evince. I'll have to look at replacing Foxit with that:

    http://live.gnome.org/Evince/Downloads

    And an .MSI installer too! I'll have to talk with the other IT guys at work tomorrow...

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  15. Re:Why two weeks to fix? by 0123456 · · Score: 4, Funny

    They need to come up with a reliable way to fix this, make absolutely sure it actually fixes the problem, and then make sure the patch doesn't cause crashes on any of the OS variants out there. Otherwise the chaos would be worse.

    Indeed: just imagine the riots in the streets if they accidentally broke Farmville. Having millions more PCs in botnets will be much less harmful.

  16. Thanks Uncle Jobs! by krizoitz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Every time I see a story like this (which is often) I thank Steve Jobs for no Flash on my iPhone along with all the wonderful people who develop the various Flash blockers for web browsers.

  17. Re:OS makers not helping much either by cbhacking · · Score: 5, Interesting

    On Windows, you can force any program to run at Low IL (Integrity Level support requires Vista or above). Low IL processes, regardless of their nominal user permissions, can only write to Low IL folders. There are only a couple of these in the base install - %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Low contains things like the Temporary Internet Files folder (IE runs at low IL by default).

    Low IL processes also can't start other processes at higher integrity levels. If for some reason you need a higher level (the usual reason is saving files) you can have a "broker process" that runs at the standard level (Medium IL) and exposes some interprocedural communication to the Low IL process. Strictly speaking this opens a hole in your sandbox, but it's a lot easier to lock down that broker process since it's very special-purpose and has a very small attack surface. Also, the broker process can be used to present a warning to the user when it is invoked for anything potentially dangerous (IE's "Protected Mode" warning appears when the browser asks the broker process to start an external application).

    It's not as customizable as AppArmor, but it's less complicated. Unfortunately, it also takes a little tweaking to find out how to set process or folder IL.

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  18. Square" (10.2.x) is vulnerable by WD · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've tested the latest 10.2 preview of Flash and it is vulnerable. The US-CERT vulnerability note has been updated to reflect this: http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/298081

  19. Also... by sootman · · Score: 3, Informative

    ... this makes me very wary of buying a device where all apps, and the OS/UI itself are written in Adobe AIR (which is pretty much Flash.) So when a vulnerability comes along you... what... quit using the whole device? I'm sure that will go over really well with the large businesses that are BlackBerry's intended customers. And for those who think I'm hyperbolizing, watch the video and listen close--the head of RIM says (at the 2:20 mark) "what we've done is... really embed AIR right into 'the metal' and the operating system." By "metal" I think he means "as low-level as we possibly could."

    Wait, scratch that... large businesses have been buying Windows for two decades, so never mind me. I be this thing will fly off the shelves. Hmm, maybe I should write an antivirus app in Flash so it can run on a PlayBook. :-)

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  20. Re:There's a safe alternative! by sootman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From the source: "Gnash... supports most SWF v7 features and some SWF v8 and v9. SWF v10 is not supported by GNU Gnash."

    Yeah. Sounds really useful. They support MOST of a SEVEN YEAR OLD VERSION. Woo hoo, sign me up!

    And by the way, who's to say that Gnash is free of bugs and/or exploitable holes? One problem with re-implementing something is that you're likely to (and sometimes need to) reproduces the original, bug for bug and flaw for flaw. Just ask the WINE guys.

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  21. Re: Direct download link to Flash Player by qubezz · · Score: 4, Informative

    The full Flash installer is buried in a deep link. You can use Internet Explorer, choose the 'different operating system or browser' link on the Adobe Flash download page, and get the Firefox version (likewise use an alternate browser to get the IE version).

    Of course, if you want a direct link to download the most recent installer without the 'download manager' slimeware or 'free Google Toolbar', here it is!:

  22. Tool to neuter Flash exploits - Blitzableiter by plover · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's an embarrassment for Adobe. An external researcher has created a tool called Blitzableiter, which is simply a Flash parser written in .Net. Its only job is to verify that any Flash you load is fully compliant with the Flash file format, and to hurl an exception if anything fails to parse correctly. I saw FX's presentation at DefCon and was suitably impressed.

    The cool thing is that he claims it's caught every exploit, past and present, that he's been able to find to test it with.

    Think about it. Someone external to Adobe is keeping Adobe's products safe simply by enforcing Adobe's own rules. Way to go, Adobe, you're completely awesome.

    Configuring Blitzableiter to work in Firefox takes a little bit of work. He asked the NoScript guy to provide an external plugin mechanism, which launches Blitzableiter to check out the SWFs before they're permitted into the Shockwave player. So you have to load the NoScript extension, then configure it to run Blitzableiter. I look at it as a fairly small price to pay for safety.

    I will say that it's pretty damn picky, and there's a lot of probably-safe-but-badly-written Flash out there that it won't let you load. Since there's actually very little Flash content I want to see anyway, it's not been a real problem for me. For expediency I put youtube.com in the exception list, just because I do trust the youtube player and don't feel I need to wait the extra two seconds to have it scanned every time I watch a video clip. Otherwise, it just rocks!

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  23. Re:How to prevent Reader from using Flash? by GameboyRMH · · Score: 4, Informative

    Foxit's been getting a little too adware-ish for me lately, it's coming bundled with toolbars now, and it offers a browser plugin which can only be bad news for security, browser speed and browser stability. Between the two I definitely prefer evince.

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