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Electric Car Goes 375 Miles On One 6-Minute Charge

thecarchik writes with this quote from AllCarsElectric: "We all know that battery packs are the weakest link in electric vehicles. Not only are they heavy and expensive, but they take a long time to recharge and on average can only provide around 100 miles per charge. A German-based company has changed all that with a new vehicle capable of driving up to 375 miles at moderate highway speeds. ... It doesn't end there. The company responsible for the battery pack, DBM Energy, claims a battery pack efficiency of 97 percent and a recharge time of around 6 minutes when charged from a direct current source. Unlike the small Daihatsu which was heavily modified by a team in Japan earlier this year that achieved a massive 623 miles on a charge at around 27 mph, the Audi A2 modified by DBM Energy was able to achieve its 375 miles range at an average speed of 55 mph."

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  1. Re:Charging station? by srjh · · Score: 5, Informative

    What does the charging station use? Is it ultracapacitors?

    Also, last time I checked both Germany, Japan and pretty much the rest of the planet used the metric system, so:

    Oh, come on, now you're being unfair. It's not the rest of the planet, Liberia and Myanmar are also yet to adopt the metric system. Sheesh.

  2. Re:Power required to charge? by Spoke · · Score: 5, Informative

    From what I've been able to dig up, the battery pack holds about 115 kWh.

    In any case, your typical EV these days goes about 4 kWh/mile, which matches up nicely with their 375 mile trip.

    So if you want to fill the car with 100 kWh in 6 minutes, you'd need about 1000 kW (ignoring charging losses).

    Your typical house in the USA has 240V service with a main panel size ranging between 100A-200A - or 24-48 kW. There is no way you're charging this battery in a short amount of time at home unless you use some sort of buffer.

    Your typical EV today uses a Level 2 J1772 EVSE - of which the J1772 specification will handle up to 240V AC at 80A or 19 kW. But the first mass produced EVs on the market (the Leaf/Volt) will only be able to charge at 3.3 kW or so using that standard.

    The Tesla Roadster can charge at up to 19 kW, but still uses a slightly different plug (Tesla came before the J1772 standard, but existing Roadsters are expected to be converted over).

    "Gas" stations to sustain Level 3 charging (meaning anything that spits out high current DC) are currently being deployed with chargers that will push out a max of 50 kW or so. The Leaf will be the first car to use those chargers and can charge it's 24 kW pack to 80% in 20-30 minutes.

    I suspect that some sort of local battery buffer will be needed in most locations to support 1000 kW chargers - or you'll need to be very close to electrical substations and transmission lines.

  3. Re:How long does it last? by MoonBuggy · · Score: 5, Informative

    Now to totally suck the humour out of that post:
    Call it 1GW output for a reasonably sized nuclear plant. A reasonable estimate for the efficiency of an electric car (according to Wikipedia) is about 15kWh/100km; after converting to more usable units, the 600km capacity means the battery holds 324MJ. A 6 minute charge time gives a 900kW transfer rate, or about 1,100 users per nuclear power station.

  4. stolen from the comments of TFA by wealthychef · · Score: 5, Informative

    Translated from this page: http://adacemobility.wordpress.com/2010/10/26/das-wunder-von-berlin/#more-744
    "Technical Data Audi A2 DBM *
    * Subject
    Empty weight (including driver) 1260 kg
    Perm. Total weight 1600 kg
    Battery lithium-iron-polymer (260 Ah/380 V) cell voltage of 3.8 volts
    Battery weight about 300 kg
    Charging time about 4 hours due to mains phase current in the household (380)
    battery requires 6 minutes (future solution)
    Life time 2500 charge cycles (without loss of capacity)
    = Service life target: 500,000 km
    Top speed 160 km / h
    5-speed sequential gearbox (race gear: shifting without the clutch)
    E-motor 300 Nm torque"
    So, the 6 minute charge is future/theoretical limits of the battery. The actual time is 4 hours; which is still very impressive.
    Sincerely, Neil

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    Currently hooked on AMP
  5. Re:How long does it last? by blueg3 · · Score: 5, Informative

    It takes 4-6 hours to use up that energy, though -- assuming you're constantly driving. That gives you far more users per power station -- just a peak capacity of 1100.