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Google Wave Creator Quits, Joins Facebook

srimadman found an interview with Wave creator Lars Rasmussen where he talks about his recent decision to join Facebook, leaving Google behind. Apparently getting personally pitched by Zuckerberg helped. He says, "I've got a job description of 'come hang out with us for a while and we'll see what happens,' which is a pretty exciting thing." The article talks about Big vs Small companies, and notes that about 20% of Facebook's staff are former Googlers.

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  1. Re:new boss, same as the old boss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Are you kidding? User privacy (or the lack thereof) is their main revenue stream!

  2. Google What Now? by Rogerborg · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Seriously, can anyone explain to me in words of two syllables or fewer what Google Wave is/was (other than a Firefly reference) or why I should have bothered to find out for myself?

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    1. Re:Google What Now? by aicrules · · Score: 4, Funny

      beta

    2. Re:Google What Now? by Enderandrew · · Score: 4, Informative

      Email + IM/Chat + Wiki Functionality all rolled into one.

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    3. Re:Google What Now? by hodet · · Score: 4, Informative

      From the demo I saw (I never actually tried it), it looked to me like an online collaboration tool for groups. You could chat with the whole group, launch shared screens for collaboration etc etc. You could add and remove users from the wave as you go. It tried to blend all kinds of things into one platform hosted on a central server. Google were never really able to convince people why they need this tool (myself included). I remember after looking at the demo, thinking how painful it might have been to actually use in the real world.

    4. Re:Google What Now? by tapo · · Score: 5, Informative

      "Real-time message board for projects."

      A few friends of mine have been using Wave for developing a game and game toolset, and its a weird mixture of wiki, message board, and group whiteboard, they usually discuss the latest project milestone on Skype while having running meeting minutes in a Wave. If someone can't make the meeting, they come along later and comment. There's long waves about everything from programming standards, to models and art assets, to release notes.

      It's been so damn useful for project development that Google is planning to ship "Wave in a Box" so small teams like ours can deploy it on our own server, even after Google kills official support. And we will, we can't go back to wiki, it seems so damn archaic at this point.

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  3. Re:You got Google Wave on my Facebook! by Game_Ender · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is the guy that made google-maps as well, it is quite a loss.

  4. Re:new boss, same as the old boss by trickyD1ck · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And why would these companies care, when users themselves don't?

  5. Money is nice by Enderandrew · · Score: 5, Funny

    Google has the company policy where 10% of every employee's hours are to be spent on projects of their choosing. They're known for providing their employees tons of flexibility to explore new ideas.

    Lars is suggesting he is jumping ship to Facebook so he can have the freedom to see what happens. I'm sure it has absolutely nothing to do with money.

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  6. Re:You got Google Wave on my Facebook! by entotre · · Score: 5, Interesting

    His brother (the other guy who made google maps) will stay with google. So it seems that relations between the two internet companies, at least at the top, are not as hostile as they often are portrayed.

  7. Re:new boss, same as the old boss by blahbooboo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Are you kidding? User privacy (or the lack thereof) is their main revenue stream!

    I stopped putting anything of consequence on Facebook (including pictures) over a year ago. After seeing how much Facebook changed since I joined when Facebook was still a closed edu community (a LOT better back then too) and the endless crazy privacy settings I stopped using it. Privacy is now simple, there is absolutely nothing on facebook that I care about anymore. For example, if someone tags me in a photo, I immediately un-tag the photo.

    By now, if you keep posting things about yourself on Facebook that you're concerned about it's you're own fault. Privacy is easy now for me on Facebook.

  8. Re:Should have seen this coming... by AnonymousClown · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Mark is a 24-year old billionaire...

    If he invented some incredible green energy break through, I'd be thinking way to go!
    If he found a way to eliminate much of the poverty and sickness in the Third World, I'd say way to go kid! You deserve every penny!
    If he came up with some sort of medical breakthrough that eliminate breast and ovarian or prostate cancer, I'd be really happy for him.

    No, he didn't.

    He became an instant billionaire by selling what is basically personal web pages that broadcast updates automatically.

    Tesla did more for humanity and he died penniless.

    Excuse me, I'm having an attack of mumbling "Bullshit!"

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  9. Re:new boss, same as the old boss by Conspiracy_Of_Doves · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If there was *ever* anything you cared about on facebook, then you still have something to worry about. You might not be able to see it any more, but it's still there.

  10. Re:new boss, same as the old boss by Chrisq · · Score: 5, Funny

    I stopped putting anything of consequence on Facebook (including pictures) over a year ago.

    Too late! I've seen the pictures. I don't know who I feel more sorry for, you, your sister, or the dog.

  11. Re:new boss, same as the old boss by OpenGLFan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Eventually trickle-up lack of privacy will catch up with these companies and they will suffer. And those who hang with Facebook (and Google) will have severe hangover. It's Moby Dick all over again, with Eric Schmidt (the "creep") - the new captain Ahab.

    Privacy is not, and has never been, a killer app. We still don't regularly encrypt email; we send it plaintext and leave it on google servers. NSA's pressure on Zimmerman didn't kill PGP email, apathy did.

    People don't want privacy. People want Farmville.

  12. Re:Loyalty by Chowderbags · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What do you expect when businesses stopped being loyal to their employees? There used to be things like pension plans and long term job security. Now companies might match some portion of your 401k and at a slight downturn in the economy they might lay off hundreds or thousands so that their numbers look a little bit better. If they're willing to toss workers overboard for slight profit, workers are well within reason to toss their company overboard for their own slight profit. Give people a good reason to stay and you'll get loyal employees, otherwise you get what coming to you.

  13. Re:Loyalty by slasho81 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You are either an economics major or under 25.

    Employment is more than just business in the real world. It's a social activity and organizations are social structures rather than ideal friction reducing "infrastructure" that some academics think they are.

    The economics revolve around society and not the other way round.