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Will Wright To Make Fan-Participation TV Show

SmarterThanMe writes "Will Wright, creator of several famous computer games beginning with 'Sim,' is involved in the production of a new TV show called 'Bar Karma.' Viewers will be heavily involved in putting forward their own storyboards that the show will then play out. Viewers also vote on the storyboards that they most like for the next episode. In effect, the viewing public collaborates with each other to create the show."

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  1. And griefers all around the world rejoiced by Halo1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In our next episode: did little Lisa survive her heart surgery?
    4chan: Nope.

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    1. Re:And griefers all around the world rejoiced by zwei2stein · · Score: 1

      Hey, it could be awesome sitcom. Something actually funny.

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    2. Re:And griefers all around the world rejoiced by Rogerborg · · Score: 3, Funny
      Well, quite. I can see it going All My Circuits.
      • Voice Over: Press 1 if you would like to see an exciting laser battle. Press 2 if you want to watch Calculon do his taxes.
      • [Fry presses 1]
      • Voice Over: You have selected "2".
      • Fry: Hey!
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    3. Re:And griefers all around the world rejoiced by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Funny? It would probably quickly deteriorate into something like this:

      Idiot #1: "can i haz cheezburger!!11"
      Idiot #2: "lol hungry cat iz hungry"
      Idiot #3: "fail!!!1"
      Idiots #1, #2 and #3 "lololol"

    4. Re:And griefers all around the world rejoiced by Ironchew · · Score: 1

      Anybody doing the planning and professionals doing the execution?
      Methinks it will turn out like Axe Cop, the comic written by a 5-year-old and illustrated by his 29-year-old brother.

    5. Re:And griefers all around the world rejoiced by elrous0 · · Score: 2, Funny

      If they really let it play out democratically (and I doubt they will after they see the initial results), I picture the television equivalent of a Mad Lib with the word "Ass" in every blank.

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    6. Re:And griefers all around the world rejoiced by sempir · · Score: 1

      Did Harry the barman give bad karma to the cardiologist for letting Lisa die?

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    7. Re:And griefers all around the world rejoiced by AshtangiMan · · Score: 1

      I think we already have this show, it's called Jerry Springer.

    8. Re:And griefers all around the world rejoiced by Pozican · · Score: 1

      Here's more information on Bar Karma - Just got posted officially it looks like. http://current.com/studios/

  2. Brilliant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    How long until someone abuses a flaw in the voting system or simply uses a billion proxies to vote up a storyboard consisting of an elaborate episode-long orgy?

    1. Re:Brilliant by lennier1 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Too late. 4chan has already been mentioned in the first post.

    2. Re:Brilliant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      4chan cant compete with bored housewifes. Not even them
      It will be as dumb as american nation is, so same as all other shows

    3. Re:Brilliant by Combatso · · Score: 2, Insightful

      you mean a rip-off of Two and half men?

    4. Re:Brilliant by OakDragon · · Score: 1

      Don't worry - there's a little piece of hardware you have to buy, that you hook up to your DVR... so that helps, right?

    5. Re:Brilliant by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      How long until someone abuses a flaw in the voting system or simply uses a billion proxies to vote up a storyboard consisting of an elaborate episode-long orgy?

      More likely an elaborate episode long advert, if it's successful.

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    6. Re:Brilliant by sorak · · Score: 1

      This is a show where people vote for what they want to see. Why do you think they would need hackers to get porn voted up?

    7. Re:Brilliant by operagost · · Score: 1

      Remember when that awful singer Sanjaya lasted about three weeks too long on American Idol?

      I don't either. Because I never watched that show. Ever. Ahem.

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    8. Re:Brilliant by Thing+1 · · Score: 1

      One and a quarter men?

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  3. Past experiences by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This really worked for Snakes on a plane. /s

  4. Continue the story line by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Suddenly, a giant flying

    1. Re:Continue the story line by theCurteye · · Score: 1

      ... the end.

    2. Re:Continue the story line by Haedrian · · Score: 1

      Or is it?

    3. Re:Continue the story line by MRe_nl · · Score: 1

      Dick Cheney appears and predicts;

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    4. Re:Continue the story line by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope.

      Next up, we discuss the viability of magnetic cars.
      Afterwards we demonstrate how it IS possible to get around the laws of physics by making a lightyear+10 meter long rod to send information faster than the speed of light.
      Then to finish off, we will have a play by SPAMBOT 3000 and several possibly illegal pictures of underage imaginary characters.

      Going to be a great show today kids, stick around!

    5. Re:Continue the story line by ChipMonk · · Score: 1

      Scarily enough, your second idea might actually be possible, if the rod contains a Bose-Einstein condensate.

  5. Won't be a winner by Haedrian · · Score: 1

    I don't think its going to be a winner. People have different tastes, and people with similar tastes tend to watch the same program.

    So one day you're watching a soppy romantic comedy - because the majority 'vote' at the point in time likes those - and in the next episode you're going to watch the estranged lover murder a few children and throw kittens off roof tops.

    So basically either a particular niche takes over the storyboard (which kinda defeats the purpose) - or the flavour/genre of this will be so erratic that few people will truly enjoy it.

    1. Re:Won't be a winner by Jugalator · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, people LOVE to feel like they're part of something. But I do agree with you, it depends a lot on how it's executed.

      I personally think this is the kind of show that'll be fairly successful for a season of six episodes, but not subsequent seasons once the novelty value has worn off.

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    2. Re:Won't be a winner by somersault · · Score: 1

      I personally think this is the kind of show that'll be fairly successful for a season of six episodes, but not subsequent seasons once the novelty value has worn off.

      You mean like Firefly?




      Bazinga!

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    3. Re:Won't be a winner by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      No, Firefly was a show that was fairly unsuccessful for a season of 12 or whatever episodes, but then was cancelled once it became popular.

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    4. Re:Won't be a winner by somersault · · Score: 1

      I was only kidding, hence the "bazinga". It was 12 episodes and the movie IIRC. And maybe some comics but I haven't seen them if that's the case.

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    5. Re:Won't be a winner by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I only commented because it's so commentworthy. The cancelling of Firefly AFTER it gained popularity will go down in history as one of the great WTF moments of Science Fiction.

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    6. Re:Won't be a winner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Firefly was already dead.

      It being popular or not was irrelevant to Fox, they'd decided to cancel it before a single episode had aired.

      I wouldn't be surprised if it was going to be canceled before they even saw a single episode.

    7. Re:Won't be a winner by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Firefly was already dead.

      It being popular or not was irrelevant to Fox, they'd decided to cancel it before a single episode had aired.

      I wouldn't be surprised if it was going to be canceled before they even saw a single episode.

      I wouldn't be surprised if they'd decided to cancel it before anyone had even thought of the idea in the first place, that's how evil they are.

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  6. Whose SIM is it anyway? by alphatel · · Score: 1

    Maybe Drew Carey or Clive Anderson can guest-animate.

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  7. Laugh Tracks Yes [ ] No [v] by yotto · · Score: 1

    Maybe 4chan can wield their social sword for good and teach execs that we don't need 10 minutes of show and 22 minutes of laugh track in every episode.

    1. Re:Laugh Tracks Yes [ ] No [v] by Xserv · · Score: 1

      Maybe 4chan can wield their social sword for good and teach execs that we don't need 10 minutes of show and 22 minutes of laugh track in every episode.

      Oh, wow, well the math is a little off. You forgot the best part! Commercials!

      More like this:
      8 minutes of commercials
      5 minutes of show
      17 minutes of laughtrax

      Awww yea. That's how we roll.

      Xserv

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    2. Re:Laugh Tracks Yes [ ] No [v] by yotto · · Score: 1

      My math isn't to blame. It's my typing. I meant "10 minutes of show, 12 minutes of laugh track" for a total of 22 minutes.

      I fail at joke.

    3. Re:Laugh Tracks Yes [ ] No [v] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL. Indeed. :)

  8. Why? by denzacar · · Score: 2, Funny

    a storyboard consisting of an elaborate episode-long orgy?

    Why do you say that like that is a bad thing?

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  9. Crowd-sourced TV? by acnicklas · · Score: 1

    We already do it for news, now TV shows? What's next, paying $10 to sit in front of a movie I had to help write?

    1. Re:Crowd-sourced TV? by Xserv · · Score: 1

      We already do it for news, now TV shows? What's next, paying $10 to sit in front of a movie I had to help write?

      You just gave some craptacular money-grubbing movie exec an idea... We know they couldn't figure that out on their own since it requires creativity. #FAIL

      Xserv

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    2. Re:Crowd-sourced TV? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's next, paying $10 to sit in front of a movie I had to help write?

      In a sense, isn't that what the Rocky Horror Picture Show is? Sure, the movie itself was made by traditional means, but the writing (and acting and costumes) of the live performance is a crowd-sourced experience from before "crowd-sourcing" was a buzzword.

  10. Been done before by dastardlydavros · · Score: 5, Informative

    This isn't a new idea - Let the Blood Run Free did this back in the 90s. You could phone in at the end of the show and choose which direction the storyline would take. Dorothy Conniving-Bitch was my favourite character mwahahahaha! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_The_Blood_Run_Free

  11. Hmm... by denzacar · · Score: 1

    Considering the proposed judges, I'm guessing we would be more likely to see an episode (or season even) consisting of nothing but laugh track, drowning out every other sound.
    With Pedobear as the *Special*Guest*Star*.

    That and boobies, naturally.

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    1. Re:Hmm... by Nadaka · · Score: 1

      And then it suddenly cuts to Rick Astley live, "never gonna give you up".

  12. Ron Brandsteder! by Servaas · · Score: 1

    There use to be a Dutch mystery show, like a sketch show way back when I was a child, people could call up and vote how it would end. It grabbed my attention back then, and it'll be interesting to see how someone like Will Wright could add a twist to it. Especially these days with texting or twitter.

  13. Obligatory simpsons quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Man: How many of you kids would like Itchy & Scratchy to deal with
                        real-life problems, like the ones you face every day?
            Kids: [clamoring] Oh, yeah! I would! Great idea! Yeah, that's it!
              Man: And who would like to see them do just the opposite -- getting
                        into far-out situations involving robots and magic powers?
            Kids: [clamoring] Me! Yeah! Oh, cool! Yeah, that's what I want!
              Man: So, you want a realistic, down-to-earth show... that's
                        completely off-the-wall and swarming with magic robots?
            Kids: [all agreeing, quieter this time] That's right. Oh yeah,
                        good.
    Milhouse: And also, you should win things by watching.
    -- Conflicting results, "The Itchy & Scratchy & Poochie Show"

    1. Re:Obligatory simpsons quote by OakDragon · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      The Obama administration now appreciates this all too well.

    2. Re:Obligatory simpsons quote by neminem · · Score: 1

      I'm a bit late to this, but for the record, "show with magic and robots (and magic robots) in which kids deal with real-life problems"... sounds a whole heck of a lot like the pitch for Buffy. Buffy was an excellent show. I'm not seeing the problem.

  14. If history is any judge by antifoidulus · · Score: 1

    Considering all the, ahem, unique....,designs in Spore I think the title of the first show will pretty much be "The Cocksons"

  15. I first read that as: by Ixtol · · Score: 1

    "Will Wheaton To Make Fan-Participation TV Show"

    I am far less excited for the actual story.

  16. Fan Fiction by tekrat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There's a *REASON* 99.9% of fan fiction doesn't get turned into the next episode. How many Lt. Mary Sue's do we really need? I think there was one rare instance where some Xena fan-fic got published as a book... that was about it.

    Women writers tend to make a Han-Solo/Luke or Kirk/Spock love fest, while men tend to write stories where the hero lands on an alien planet inhabited by sex-starved babes in bikinis.

    Basically it's trash writing and most of the time, it shows that most people should never even get near a keyboard.

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    1. Re:Fan Fiction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's a *REASON* 99.9% of fan fiction doesn't get turned into the next episode. How many Lt. Mary Sue's do we really need? I think there was one rare instance where some Xena fan-fic got published as a book... that was about it.

      Actually there was an episode of Tiny Toons, an episode of Dexter's Lab, several Buffy the Vampire slayer novels, numerous anthology works from authors like Bradley and Lackey, as well as some set in Trek universes. I could even argue that the 1632 universe is one big fan-fic fest, but that might be stretching the boundaries a bit.

      And yeah, 99.9 percent of it may be crap, but you think that's a reflection of fan fiction as such, or just fiction in general? I'm inclined towards the latter, given how much inane bullcrap is out there.

    2. Re:Fan Fiction by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 1

      You're also forgetting the amazing piece of work that is HALO: Halos in Space

      You can google it and find some funny voice-overs of people trying to keep a straight face while reading it.

  17. I miss playmania and midnight money madness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I miss playmania and midnight money madness they where the fun Participation shows.

  18. Seth Green is currently doing the same time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Seth Green is part of a new ControlTV experiment where viewers vote on what the star of the show (Tristan) must do next.

  19. Will, please read. by zhong-guo-1 · · Score: 1

    Will, we're still waiting for simcity 5 with hulking complexity and more stuff.

    1. Re:Will, please read. by RockGrumbler · · Score: 1

      How about a sim city without the awful EA-THE SIMS UI treatment?

    2. Re:Will, please read. by eamonman · · Score: 1

      I don't want more Simcites, I just want a patch for Spore where you can assign a damn lieutenant or someone that can take care of your collections/simple alien attacks. I didn't want my dreams of exploring the center of the galaxy to be dashed simply because I didn't know how to hire someone.

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  20. Fahrenheit 451 by cowtamer · · Score: 1

    This reminds me of a scene in Fahrenheit 451 where the Guy Montag's wife is is super-excited because she has been mailed the script of her favorite soap so that she can have a trivial line that she reads when the people in the "wall" ask her questions. "What do you think Mildred?" "It's swell!" Do you think it's a good idea, Mildred?" "Absolutely!" (I may have gotten the name and the dialog wrong -- but you get the idea).

  21. *Knock*knock* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Who's there?"
    *muffled* "it's the lesbians you ordered"
    "Oh yay! This will be the best christmas special ever!"

  22. Interactive TV? by MrEricSir · · Score: 1

    Welcome back to the mid 90's! Do you think this series will be available at Blockbuster, or will I have to pirate it on AOL?

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  23. Art by committee by tehcyder · · Score: 1

    Doesn't have a great history.

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  24. Judging by the results of Spore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Expect a show about penises

  25. Like watching theSIMS! by PGGreens · · Score: 1

    oh wait. I forgot how boring that was. Pretty much why I stopped playing. Besides, (given that this is a gimmicky premise and will most likely not include great acting) half of the fun is not knowing what will happen in the next episode. It's a little hard to play up the suspense when people have been voting on the possible story-lines.

  26. Anybody Remember Acceptable.tv? by DerKlempner · · Score: 1

    Why don't we all ask VH1 how this idea worked out for them?

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  27. This could work out by The_mad_linguist · · Score: 1

    Depending upon the director, I could actually see this working out pretty well. The key is to get a TON of storyboards, and select the ones you probably would have done anyway to vote on.

    Andrew Hussie has raised this technique to an artform.