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Gigabit Wireless Will Link Smartphones To TVs
judgecorp writes "More progress for WiGig, the proposal for 3Gbps wireless links on 60GHz radio waves. The WiGig group has signed a deal with VESA, the display standards group, to include WiGig as a fast wireless option in VESA's DisplayPort standard. As well as letting you use a TV as a display for your phone, without having to connect a cable, it will also make synching and file transfer quicker."
Most are still using nothing, wep, wpa or the wrong wpa-2 options. :-(
New things are always on the horizon
I *think* if you had a movie on your phone, you could watch it on your TV.
But, yeah. Is this maybe an excuse to try to sell us yet another TV since 3D isn't working?
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excuse to try to sell us yet another TV
In that case, the TV companies are going to have a problem since the carriers will make sure it's disabled on all their phones so they can continue to sell their $50 5-cent cables with tiny, fragile connectors.
If I have been able to see further than others, it is because I bought a pair of binoculars.
Until very recently, it was hard to find anything beyond 802.11b in most cellphones. Now they're talking about leapfrogging all the way up to WiGig? How big are WiGig chips, what kind of power budget do they require, how expensive are they? This sounds like it might be a neat idea for 5+ years in the future, but it's completely impractical for anytime in the near future. I'm guessing the target market is people who want to play back video they've recorded from their phone camera on a big screen.
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That's great.
Except that no one uses DisplayPort. It was basically invented in order to avoid paying royalties to Intel, who holds patents on HDMI and DVI. There are more TVs with VGA ports at this point, and that's unlikely to change.
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Droid in 1080p... *glorious*
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It's a poorly written sentence (What? On Slashdot? Never!). It should read more along the lines of:
"This will allow you to use your TV as a display for your phone without a cable. It should also speed up syncs and file transfers to your computer."
Basically it's a data transfer tech. If you route a video signal over it, it'll give you the ability to display what's on your phone on the TV (assuming your TV has a receiver). If you route sync or file data over it, it'll speed up your ability to sync and transfer files (assuming your computer has a receiver and compatible software). Personally I'm more excited about the idea of faster wireless Ethernet. Apparently this is in no way related to the new 802.11 standard though, it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.
I don't need a million points of light, just two points of multi-mode fiber and a 10 Gig-E router.
designed to lock open source competition out and yet another splurge of patents, but "with a phone on your TV" tacked on them to make them seem novel...
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The phone is going to replace the desktop and laptop PC for most user. (Ok, someone always point out some niche use that will remain, but it's just that: niche). It will talk to your high res monitor, keyboard, mouse, internet, and other phones, but it'll just be carried with you in your pocket and wherever you go, it will be there too. True mobile computing with all the advantages of fixed resources when you are near them.
The traditional desktop PC will fade away. Phones are getting increasingly powerful 3D chipsets and will be able to substitute for 98% of what people do with desktops and laptops today but in a portable form factor.
This is the future of the industry, and it's what all the big players are preparing for.
Amusingly, it also means a huge shift of power FROM microsoft TO apple and google.
It also means safer computing and less viruses, because app stores will be a barrier for malware. Will it be perfect? No, but it will be a lot better than the situation today. Don't make the mistake of thinking a replacement has to be perfect: it only ha to be enough better than people move to it large numbers. And the shift has already started.
I'm pretty sure the phone carriers will also try to make sure this uses some of your data plan so they can "monetize" it.
A friend did some looking at the way our cell-phone carrier handled the in-phone web-browser a couple of years back -- they had intentionally changed Morotolla phones so they wouldn't go straight to the web like they were designed, but go through a broker the phone company carried. It effectively doubled the # of bytes your transmitted
Evil bastards.
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But, yeah. Is this maybe an excuse to try to sell us yet another TV since 3D isn't working?
Why would you need another TV? Surely you would be able to buy an adapter to receive any WiGig signal and send it on to your TV.
There was a similar story to this last week, but I think it was for HDMI instead of DisplayPort.
As long as there's some form of passkey necessary to get access to the display, this would be great for stuff like meetings and presentations.
which is totally what she said
except that if you have a movie on your phone it's compressed to look good on a small screen. on a 40" TV it will look like crap. it's the reason why BD disks can hold 50GB, because it takes more data to display a movie on a TV than a smaller screen like a phone or PMP
Sounds to me more like turning your phone into a high definition media player that gets rid of the need for a media server and blu-ray/DVD player.
If they put it into phones then it may also destroy some of the casual gaming console market. Phones often cost more than a Wii, but you still see young people with them all the time. One of my friends the other day was gobsmacked at a "kid.. with.. an iPhone" the other day. If a phone also doubles up as a games console then I can see parents jumping at the opportunity to cut down on costs.
which is totally what she said
Droid in 1080p... *glorious..ly slow*
FTFY :)
which is totally what she said
This is exactly what I need to pull that phone to display trick Tony pulled in Iron Man 2.
You have to admit that's cool. Some of your friends are watching a movie and you point your phone at the screen to commandeer the display and show video of your recent surgery, or stupid cat tricks, or even live video surveillance of your empty bedroom...
I believe that in this microwave frequency range, the signals will be attenuated by atmosphere, so there will be natural limitations on range, especially at low power.
In ham radio, there are people doing 47 GHz propagation of morse code (CW) and voice signals via rainscatter. (think of weather radar) The record range is 343km from mountaintop to mountaintop using high-powered directional dishes (W6QI and AD6FP).
-molo
Using your sig line to advertise for friends is lame.
At that frequency you ought to have directional antennas.. and probably use ur phone to cook food (as a death ray..??) ..!!!!
As well as letting you use a TV as a display for your phone, without having to connect a cable,
So, what you're really telling us, is that soon, with a directional antenna and a little work, I'll be able to goatse the tv aisle at best buy, walmart, and the local sports bar.
I'm liking it!
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Because phones are just chock full of the storage needed to replace a Bluray player. Or wait... no... phones have very small amounts of storage. Even 64GB is small. Battlestar Galactica on Bluray is what, something like 800GB of data or something?
Wow, that's very meta.
Before you posted that, nobody had read it. ;-)
This is just about what Zeno's paradox boils down to: "The Hare never catches the Tortoise until it does."
Set your phasers on "funky"!
You think that phones are going to be stuck at 64GB max forever? Besides, people rarely watch a whole series of a TV program in one showing, and the majority of series at the moment are still in SD format. Currently I have one series on blu-ray, and maybe 50 on DVD.
Even with no actual storage available, they could be used to stream media from iTunes/whatever in the same way that AppleTV and its competitors do. The market for streaming media is only going to continue growing to the detriment of physical media. It's not yet at the stage where I'm going to give up my MP3 collection and subscribe to Spotify because they still are missing a few of my favourite artists, but eventually things will get there.
which is totally what she said
see also: history.
If it can be packetized, it can be repeated and routed. Look for DisplayPort over IPv6 before it's dead.
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A single Blu-Ray disc can only hold ~50GB of data.
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It would just be nice to be able to just hook up a little connector from my iphone to the TV set, and then i could watch my netflix movie running on my iphone over to my TV screen, or whatever my iphone screen was showing, is this even possible...if so how?
LOL wrong thread, buddy. This one actually obeys the laws of physics.
Pah. Details.
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looking at what my phone does, and what I do with my PC and TV, I can envision a not-too-distant future where my phone will be my CPU+basic storage unit, and I'll plug it in to a real screen+keybord/mouse/speakers to use it as a desktop, or hook it up to my TV and Stereo for media use.
A cheap home server/nas (a $80 linux plug computer ?) for more storage and a permanent and fast net connexion, a powerful phone for comfortable destop use and HD+Hifi media playing, and I'm all set. Looking at my current phone's specs (HTC HD2) such power is only 2 or 3 generations away. The main issue is connectivity.
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very true. I put 480x320 AVIs @ 12 FPS on my HTC HD2 (even though its screen rez is much better), and find that very watchable. When I try the same file on a normal screen ; it's horrendous.
in the near future though, there probably will be no reason to recompress files specifically for mobile use: mobile CPUs/GPUs will be powerful enough to play stright HD content, storage will be more abundant than the current "measly" 16-32 gig, and wireless connexions will let us stream content from a home server or the net.
The Cloud - because you don't care if your apps and data are up in the air.
they had intentionally changed Morotolla phones so they wouldn't go straight to the web like they were designed, but go through a broker the phone company carried. It effectively doubled the # of bytes your transmitted
Evil bastards.
True that. Maybe a bit off-topic, but I have to add that some promotional Sony Ericsson ones (W660 comes in mind, you would be eligible to get them 'for free' if you were one of those customers that talked much) were 'pimped' by vodafone to try to connect to the internet VIA A FRIGGIN' DIALUP (through vodafone's portal ofcourse) by pressing almost any button after finishing a call- super-easy to accidently connect, at what could be the most expensive internet session, possibly second only to satellite.
What makes that an evil plan is that though the carrier knows that you possibly already have a much better smartphone of the likes of a nokia Nxxx or whatnot, they would still offer the pimped one on the hopes of you passing it through to your grandparents or smth- so they would 'catch' more subscribers.
What's awesome is that people would get the phones, and then subscribe to a competitor's carrier, where the dialup wouldn't work- so no connection sneaked up you, no charge.
Nice poetic justice twist, huh?
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Old technology made new. I thought it was some kind of microwave and such. Funny how the human mind can come up with almost anything just to label things "cool" Learn DSLR Video Store