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Agloves Allow For Touchscreen Use On Cold Days

Zothecula writes "With capacitive the technology of choice on the majority of touchscreen devices hitting the market, people have been coming up with all kinds of interesting ways to interact with their devices when the winter chill sets in and gloves become a necessity. Many South Koreans apparently turned to using sausages as a stylus but if you'd prefer not to be hassled by dogs as you type a text there are less meat product-based solutions, such as the North Face Etip gloves. Now there's another glove-based solution in the form of Agloves, which provide even greater touchscreen friendly surface area for your hands."

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  1. Make your own by slifox · · Score: 5, Informative

    Or you can convert an existing pair of gloves into touchscreen-capable gloves by using a needle a little bit of conductive thread:

    http://www.instructables.com/id/Making-A-Glove-Work-With-A-Touch-Screen/

    1. Re:Make your own by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      But these have silver! Think of your immune system. Oh, those happy, healthy fingers.

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    2. Re:Make your own by EkriirkE · · Score: 2, Informative

      Conductive thread usually is silver.

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    3. Re:Make your own by treeves · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I wonder if metallic threads in the gloves will eventually scratch the screens. Would you use steel wool on your touchscreen?

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    4. Re:Make your own by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Would you use steel wool on your touchscreen?

      If the screen is glass then sure. Mohs scale of hardness

      Glass harder than steel and much harder than silver.

    5. Re:Make your own by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't scratch my touchscreen using a sharp knife...

      Granted I wouldn't try that with a cobalt or diamond tool...

    6. Re:Make your own by treeves · · Score: 1

      I'm thinking that since those transparent plastic sheets for screen protectors are sold (I have one on my phone) that it is possible to scratch the screen, and since people are not using diamond or carbide styli on them, either the surface of the screen is not really glass or something else is going on. I also understand that anti-reflective and anti-smudge (polymer) coatings are used, and that these are probably softer than glass.

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    7. Re:Make your own by mr_bubb · · Score: 1, Funny

      Or, you could just grow a pair of testicles and expose your delicate flesh. Pussies.

    8. Re:Make your own by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Disregard gloves. Use penis.

    9. Re:Make your own by jenny1032 · · Score: 1

      Hi. I'm Jennifer from Agloves. The gloves are actually quite soft and won't scratch your touch screen. They are not like steel wool. More soft nylon and polyester knit gloves.

    10. Re:Make your own by Eunuchswear · · Score: 1

      If you're using a stylus you don't have a capacitative screen, this article is not for you, you don't have to worry about cold fingers.

      I lurve my N900 even more on cold days.

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    11. Re:Make your own by Abstrackt · · Score: 1

      The last time I exposed my delicate flesh in public I was arrested.

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  2. Sigh by sexconker · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not all touch screens are capacitive.
    We also have good touch screens, which respond to actual touch, by any object.

    1. Re:Sigh by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      With the added bonus that you get to look at everything through a screen door!

      Fix that and I might consider a resistive screen.

    2. Re:Sigh by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 1

      I have a phone with a resistive screen (Samsung Solstice) and there is no screen door effect (aside from the LCD pixels, but I have to hold it pretty close to my face to notice them, at arm's length they're less noticeable than the ones on my laptop). So I have no idea where you're getting this from.

    3. Re:Sigh by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      from every resistive screen laptop I ever saw. HP and Toshiba made them, maybe 3 or 4 years ago.

    4. Re:Sigh by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 1

      3 or 4 years ago.

      You must be new to this whole progress of digital technology thing. May as well have been a century ago.

    5. Re:Sigh by cheater512 · · Score: 1

      The N900's screen is considered one of the best available even though it is resistive.
      No screen door - it looks incredible and many people have said its sensitivity is as good as or better than most capacitive screens.

      Oh and it comes with a regular slab of plastic stylus.
      Fits really nicely in the case and gives you extra accuracy in Angry Birds. :)

    6. Re:Sigh by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      With the added bonus that you get to look at everything through a screen door!

      Uh, what the hell are you talking about?

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    7. Re:Sigh by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      +1 I'm trying to delay my "upgrade" to capacitive touch for as long as possible. Luckily the N900 has a resistive screen.

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    8. Re:Sigh by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      Heck my Treo 180 had resistive touch and no "screen door" effect. Only time I ever saw anything like that was a very early pocket organizer that had a grid of translucent dots on the screen.

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    9. Re:Sigh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HTC Touch Pro 2 has a very nice, high resolution resistive screen without any visual interference from the resistive layer. Unfortunately, a sharp stare is enough to scratch the material used for it, and until the Android port is done, the software it runs isn't so great.

    10. Re:Sigh by ncc74656 · · Score: 1

      With the added bonus that you get to look at everything through a screen door!

      Huh? I used a Treo 650 for a couple or three years, and its display didn't look any different than any other LCD I've run across (touchscreen or not).

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    11. Re:Sigh by jc42 · · Score: 1

      With the added bonus that you get to look at everything through a screen door!

      Uh, what the hell are you talking about?

      I think they're talking about the grid effect that's often very visible to people with good close-up vision on most screens. I notice it a lot more than my wife does, probably because my eyes are a lot better than hers. But I learned years ago to quietly ignore that part of using a screen. The little blank lines between the pixels aren't moving or blinking or anything, so it's easy to ignore them and just notice what the pixels are telling you.

      Something funny I learned recently, since I got a good digital camera, is that its resolution is a whole lot better than any computer screen. So when I take a picture of something on a screen, the "screen door" effect really shows up in the pictures, especially when I crop them to remove the stuff I don't want and the image editor dutifully expands the remaining image to fill the window. This seems a bit weird, because I'm looking at the camera's image on a screen that doesn't have any better resolution than the original, but the vertical and horizontal black lines in the image are a lot harder to ignore than they were in the original.

      I'm typing this on a Mac Powerbook with a 1920x1200 17" screen, and I can easily ignore the pixel borders, but if I shift my attention to look as a small chunk of screen, I can see them. Even in the white areas, there's a visible vertical and horizontal "banding" effect, despite the blurring that the bright white pixels produce.

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  3. Harden up by kickme_hax0r · · Score: 2, Funny

    Alternatively, just don't wear gloves. Your body (hopefully) has a lower minimum operational temperature than your touchscreen device.

    1. Re:Harden up by Dare+nMc · · Score: 0

      True if it is any Apple device, none of their devices (iphone, Ipad, Laptops) are rated for use below freezing. However most other manufactures of touch devices are rated for a wider temperature range.

    2. Re:Harden up by element-o.p. · · Score: 1

      My touchscreen device isn't affected by wind chill, nor is it likely to come into contact with the pavement, even if I have an off while riding my motorcycle. I'd like to be able to use the Google Navigator on my Android while riding*, but can't really until I find a way to add a stylus...or until these gloves become available in a motorcycle version.

      *For all the safety Nazis out there, no, I don't try to type in my destination while cruising down the street, but it would be nice to be able to change destinations or routes while stopped at traffic lights.

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    3. Re:Harden up by Stregano · · Score: 2, Insightful

      or don't use it outside. if it is so cold that you think you need a special pair of gloves to use your iPad, then maybe you should not be using it at the time and should put it away

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    4. Re:Harden up by reason · · Score: 2, Informative

      Nope. My core body temperature, yes, but I've often found myself unable to operate a touchscreen because my finger-tips were too cold. When that happens, I sometimes resort to using my nose.

    5. Re:Harden up by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      That was my first thought. Are people addicted to these devices that they must use them 24 hours a day? Can't they just NOT TEXT for the short period of time that they're outside?

    6. Re:Harden up by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      Is it really that crazy to want to be able to make a phone call while outside?

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    7. Re:Harden up by psyclone · · Score: 1

      Uh, it sure would be nice to unlock the screen and answer a call with gloves on.

      Some of us are outside for long periods of time, even when it is quite cold.

    8. Re:Harden up by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Probably best to get a real phone in those situations. Ones with buttons. Not a pda pretending to be a phone.

  4. Voice command by jrozzi · · Score: 1

    I don't know about you but I will be using the speech to text and voice command features on my Droid X more and more during the winter when I have gloves on.

    1. Re:Voice command by element-o.p. · · Score: 1

      Text to speech on my Hero doesn't let you change from Navigator to phone, nor start the text messaging app though.

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    2. Re:Voice command by RulerOf · · Score: 1

      Text to speech on my Hero doesn't let you change from Navigator to phone, nor start the text messaging app though.

      I'm going to assume you mistyped, otherwise your reply makes no sense taken in the GP's context, soo....

      Let me get this straight... you're lamenting the fact that you can't use your voice to tell your phone that it should send a text message? Maybe someday these advanced phones we have now will allow you to communicate through your voice alone!

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    3. Re:Voice command by element-o.p. · · Score: 1

      Yeah, there was a typo. sed "s/Text to speech/Speech to text/". What I was trying to say is that speech to text does not fully replace a touch screen interface, since you can't launch apps, etc. by voice command. Yet.

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  5. Migrating ipads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just like the swallow may fly south with the sun or the house martin or the plover may seek warmer climes in winter, should not the ipad?

    1. Re:Migrating ipads by ricosalomar · · Score: 1

      Are you suggesting that capacitive touch devices are migratory?

    2. Re:Migrating ipads by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 1

      No, but they might be carried by snowbird retirees fleeing to the Florida.

  6. and what temperature are they good to? by phyrexianshaw.ca · · Score: 1

    I don't know about you crazy people, but staying alive is higher outdoors than using my touchscreen android. :P

    here in Winnipeg Manitoba: we dip down as low as -42 degrees. (that's in Celsius, but it's the same temperature as fahrenheit.)

    honestly, looking at my phone outdoors 8 months out of the year is the least of my concerns.

    1. Re:and what temperature are they good to? by Joe+Snipe · · Score: 3, Funny

      we dip down as low as -42 degrees. (that's in Celsius, but it's the same temperature as fahrenheit.)

      Actually that was Fahrenheit, you would write Celsius as -42 degrees. It's an easy mistake to make.

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    2. Re:and what temperature are they good to? by anss123 · · Score: 1

      My touch phone stops working long before it gets that cold.

      Annoying since I use it as my watch.

    3. Re:and what temperature are they good to? by phyrexianshaw.ca · · Score: 1

      you just repeated what I typed. it must be an easy mistake to make. :P

    4. Re:and what temperature are they good to? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      here in Winnipeg Manitoba: we dip down as low as -42 degrees. (that's in Celsius, but it's the same temperature as fahrenheit.)

      Not exactly. -42 Celsius is -43.6 Fahrenheit. They are the same at -40.

    5. Re:and what temperature are they good to? by Abcd1234 · · Score: 1

      here in Winnipeg Manitoba: we dip down as low as -42 degrees.

      Yeah, here in Edmonton we say that, too. But you and I both know those reflect unusual cold snaps, not the norm.

      The reality is, an average winter day is in the minus 20s, and you can easily get by without gloves at all, so long as you have a decent winter jacket that has, like, pockets. 'course, if you plan to manipulate a touchscreen for even a little while, a pair of gloves isn't a bad idea, but even then, unless it's for prolonged periods, you don't need anything thick or bulky.

    6. Re:and what temperature are they good to? by phyrexianshaw.ca · · Score: 1

      as does about 2/3rd's of the equipment one can install outdoors. seriously, try finding IP cam's that are rated down this low: there are only a handful or two that are rated for us: and they're often pretty shitty cameras overall.

      (note: something rated TO -40 does not hold up in -40. the rating is the extreme end and the chances it will work after experiencing this for any length of time are low) with temperatures ranging from -5 to -40 with additional 5-10 degree drops with wind chill: equipment gets replaced a LOT out here.

    7. Re:and what temperature are they good to? by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

      So you have a time-freezing device? That's cool!

    8. Re:and what temperature are they good to? by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

      What's minus 1.6 degrees between frozen friends?

    9. Re:and what temperature are they good to? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whoosh!

    10. Re:and what temperature are they good to? by tzot · · Score: 1

      OK, I'll admit: seeing a "whoosh" below by an AC, I decided I'm missing the joke.

      What I saw in broad terms: phyrexianshaw.ca stated that -42 deg C = -42 deg F, and you corrected that -42 deg F = -42 deg C. So either you didn't understand what you quoted (which I doubt), or there's an additional joke that I miss (quite probable).

      Does the joke have to do with the fact that phyr mentioned that they are in Canada? e.g. Canadians are stupid and would make the pointless correction you made? Canadians insist on using Fahrenheit scale, therefore they would mention Fahrenheit first?

      I sure hope I miss a good joke here (unlike the non-joke examples I mentioned) and some good person pops up to explain to me the joke.

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    11. Re:and what temperature are they good to? by gstrickler · · Score: 1

      Would be even funnier it if were accurate. -40c = -40f, while -42c is slightly colder than -42f.

      However, at those temperatures, I'm pretty sure I'd just call it f***'n cold.

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    12. Re:and what temperature are they good to? by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      He was just being silly, pretending to add information while not actually saying anything different at all. Who's on first.

    13. Re:and what temperature are they good to? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      there was no need to explain, it didn't matter, joke revolved around that, hth

    14. Re:and what temperature are they good to? by ranulf · · Score: 1
      Well, it doesn't matter as you're both wrong.

      -40 deg F = -40 deg C.

      -42 deg C is about -43.6 deg F.

  7. plain leather gloves by tverbeek · · Score: 5, Informative

    I have two completely different pairs of generic off-the-shelf leather gloves. They're a bit klutzier than bare fingers - they're gloves, after all - but they both work well enough with my iPhone. I figure it's because skin has similar electrical properties to... skin. Or am I just really lucky that these work somehow?

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    1. Re:plain leather gloves by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

      I've kind of adapted my glove wearing a bit.

      I'm used to having to work outdoors during winter nights, on occasion. It's a mixture of rapid moving and exertion and standing and doing nothing for hours on end. For this, I need a combination of things:

      * nimble fingers
      * good insulation for my whole hand

      What I've come down to is a pair of wool mittens with a 'finger convertible flap' which turns them into fingerless mittens. Underneath these, I wear textured gortex gloves - basically, 'cop gloves', and/or (depending on the the type of work and weather) a pair of very thin bison leather gloves (basically some of the strongest leather available, by thickness).

      This way, when it's cold and I don't immediately need my hands, I just flip the cover off the mitten. They're quite warm (as in, too warm to wear in weather over about 20F: you'll sweat too much), and the 'layer' approach allows me to take off and put on things as the weather changes throughout the day.

      Not unsurprisingly, the same thing works quite well for hunting.

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    2. Re:plain leather gloves by terwey · · Score: 1

      here it 'sometimes' works. it's a bit wobbly but it's enough to "Slide to Answer" ;) yup plain ol' leather... €3 for a pair at markets... ;)

    3. Re:plain leather gloves by noidentity · · Score: 1

      I figured it had something to do with the water in skin (which makes it conductive, and thus act as one plate of a capacitor).

    4. Re:plain leather gloves by element-o.p. · · Score: 1

      It may be that the iPhone is less finicky, or you may indeed have been lucky enough to select gloves that work well with a capacitive screen. My leather motorcycle gloves, however, don't work at all with my HTC Hero. I haven't tried any other gloves, nor have I tried any other touch screens...although, I wonder if perhaps it could be due to the fact that I have one of those protective films over my screen?

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    5. Re:plain leather gloves by Internal+Modem · · Score: 1

      Try it while the phone is plugged in (wall or vehicle) and charging. This may be related to grounding issues with some of HTC's phones.

    6. Re:plain leather gloves by element-o.p. · · Score: 1

      I'll try it, thanks.

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    7. Re:plain leather gloves by davidbrit2 · · Score: 1

      I've got a leather golf glove (probably about 15 years old) that works just as well as my fingers on a capacitive touch screen. Maybe I just need a pair of those.

    8. Re:plain leather gloves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I find that not("not unsurprising").

      My solution to the iPhone/gloves problem was just to cut a slit on the underside of the glove's index finger at the first knuckle, so I could poke out the tip of my finger when needed.

    9. Re:plain leather gloves by psyclone · · Score: 1

      My leather golf gloves work great on a samsung galaxy S capacitive touch screen, but _not_ on the capacitive buttons below the screen, which is a bummer for switching applications.

  8. Nanook by paiute · · Score: 5, Funny

    When snowblowing, I change selections and volume on my iPod Touch with my nose.

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    1. Re:Nanook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      I often find that I accept incoming calls with my tongue. Gross but effective.

    2. Re:Nanook by snspdaarf · · Score: 1

      No way, no way, will l lick anyone's cell phone just to make a call.

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    3. Re:Nanook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's really cute.

    4. Re:Nanook by Ambvai · · Score: 1

      Presumably, you'd be licking your OWN cell phone, not just anyone's...

    5. Re:Nanook by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

      Rule 34 about cellphones and/or get a room, you two!

    6. Re:Nanook by sznupi · · Score: 1

      It might not matter, considering how riddled with bacteria touchscreens supposedly are. Of course, might not really make a difference either way, considering how riddled with them our faces and mouths are...

      (really people, we are walking colonies of bacteria anyway, anything beyond basic hygiene doesn't make too much of a practical difference)

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    7. Re:Nanook by shikaisi · · Score: 3, Funny

      Please, I beg you that no one tell us about any other warm body extremities that they use to operate their iPhone. This whole thread's going in the wrong direction.

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    8. Re:Nanook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (really people, we are walking colonies of bacteria anyway, anything beyond basic hygiene doesn't make too much of a practical difference)

      I know I am being pedantic, but actually it does matter - in the opposite sense: With beyond-basic hygiene, you can decimate colonies of bacteria a little bit too much. Good ones along with bad ones. Which means that the bad, disease-causing bacteria start to have better chance to survive and maybe even overcome the "good" bacteria.

    9. Re:Nanook by sznupi · · Score: 1

      A lot more than beyond-basic would be required for this, probably (but by basic I meant mostly things which aren't really needed, but we do it anyway for, say, perceived comfort - for example two showers daily are pleasant...and that's it)

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  9. 1+ for resistive :) by Ptur · · Score: 1

    This is EXACTLY why I love my n900 so much... resistive touchscreen, transflective LCD. Who started that stupid capacitive touchscreen hype anyway? I use my n900 a lot, day in, day out. The resistive touchscreen is NEVER a problem. Being able to scribble things down with a stylus, however...

    1. Re:1+ for resistive :) by phyrexianshaw.ca · · Score: 3, Insightful

      At the end of the day it comes down to one reason:

      capacitive screens are brighter.

      Even though resistive screens may be superior in almost every other way: it's hard to sell something you have to look through constantly these days. people like bright, colorful screens: alas.

    2. Re:1+ for resistive :) by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      All the resistive screens I have ever seen looked like I was looking through a screen door, has that been fixed?

      I have a capacitive screened device and actually have an app installed just to let me lower the brightness below the normal bottom level.

    3. Re:1+ for resistive :) by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 1

      *Looks at his resistive touchscreen phone*

      Yup, no screen door. At least, not one larger than the LCD pixels.

    4. Re:1+ for resistive :) by Ptur · · Score: 1

      Sorry, the screen on my n900 is more than bright enough, and I even added an extra screenprotector on top! Time to look at what the technology has come to today....

    5. Re:1+ for resistive :) by phyrexianshaw.ca · · Score: 1

      first and foremost: let me agree with you. for you and I: they're more than bright enough. I don't know about you, but the first thing I do with any new devices is turn them way the frack down! :P

      it's a simple fact of technology: not something that's solvable through any sort of breakthrough:

      capacitance does not require contact with anything. you can measure the capacitance an object exhibits without contact: where as with the effect of resistivity you require some form of physical disruption.

      think of it in terms of uses: capacitive touch screens are wonderful in the medical field, where you can wrap the device in a plastic bag, and all the touchscreen has to do is zero the area capacitance prior to your contact with the screen. try covering a phone with a resistive touch screen with a bag and using it. best of luck!

      Plasma's and LCD's were constantly (even to this day) complained about over brightness. unless it's a high quality screen blacks get washed out, or colors have too low of contrast. add a pair of resistive touch films to the top, and the design side get's more and more complicated: driving up costs.

      at this point, it's not a matter of science: that's the easy part. it's pleasing people by balancing things in the right combinations. that's an art.

    6. Re:1+ for resistive :) by sznupi · · Score: 1

      Don't you have this the other way around? Resistive touchscreen doesn't have any problems working with plastic bag on top of it. But when it comes to capacitive and any non-conductive barrier...see this thread.

      (and pleasing people can take a really wrong turn - just look how oversaturated are default settings of any TV)

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    7. Re:1+ for resistive :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What are you talking about? The brightness of the screen has absolutely nothing to do with what digitizer is used. They are completely separate devices.

    8. Re:1+ for resistive :) by Ptur · · Score: 1

      Indeed, it is the other way around... As I said, the only reason capasitive touchscreens are popular are because a certain company hyped it up as the next big thing, just like they currently do with overspecced displays

    9. Re:1+ for resistive :) by owlstead · · Score: 1

      Are you guys insane? Capacitive screens are interesting for a single simple reason: no need to use the stylus.

      And if you think that does not matter, I've used various palm devices using a stylus and the difference is just HUGE.

      First of all, you don't have to worry about loosing the frickin' stylus.
      Second, you can control your device with one hand.
      Third, you don't have to get out the stylus to control the phone. Not a problem when using it continuously, but you'll notice the difference when you need to do anything fast.
      And last but strangely important, the dexterity of a hand it much better when it does not have to handle a tool. With a pencil you are continuously trying to get the pressure right. I've never felt that way when using the capacitive screen.
      Finally, my android has feedback when I press keys.

      Of course, a resistive touchscreen has one very big plus: precision. Unfortunately, I'll never be able to play too many logical games on my Android without using the trackball (thanks HTC for at least including that on my Hero).

  10. i just met this lady! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i just met the lady who started this company, and she is batshit crazy!!! but her products are bomb and reasonably priced, so more power to her. she literally operated at a mile a minute, and jumped from subject to subject without any correlation

  11. A Dog-Resistant Sausage Stylus Already Exists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bee's Brats makes a delicious link loaded with angry bees that will attack any dog (all dogs) stupid enough to eat one.

  12. N1 by Jethro · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When I use my thin (i.e., down to 40 degrees) gloves, my Nexus One works just fine. I can also use it through plastic bags and clothing, which is a bit weird when you're trying to clean some smudges off the screen with your shirt (and yes, I have a screen protector).

    However, it does get down to -40 around here and nobody makes gloves that'll work on a screen when it's THAT cold. That's more about the gloves being crazy thick/insulating, though. I suppose I could sew some conductive thread through my gloves on my own, but then that'll conduct the cold right into my gloves, too.

    Which is why I wish my phone had SOME physical buttons, say, for ANSWERING and HANGING UP. It's a bit ridiculous to have to take my gloves off to answer a call by swiping across the screen.

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    1. Re:N1 by CAIMLAS · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is yet another reason why I really can't get excited about modern touchscreen phones.

      OK, so it's got a 4.5" display. Awesome.

      Can I use it during the winter? No. The screen/input method doesn't even work during fall weather in most of upper North America.

      Can I use the phone without looking at it? No. I've basically got to look at what I'm inputting, as I'm inputting it, regardless of how good the input method is: there's no tactility. That's great for answering the phone when I've got my glasses off, or when I want to disable the alarm in the morning.

      Unfortunately, all the newer phones seem to be coming out without a slide-out chickpea qwerty board. As crappy as they are, you get used to them, and input can be quite fast. Add that with capacitive screens being crap for anything but the crudest input and the newer, screen-only models being more expensive due to the 'ooo big screen' marketability, and these things have essentially become clumsy feature phones.

      (Hell, newer phones have operating threshold specifications that are so narrow, they're basically designed for indoor use. Why not just use a landline?)

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    2. Re:N1 by EkriirkE · · Score: 1

      Conductive thread isn't solid metal or it would just simply be wire; its usually a silver-coated nylon. If you don't want to puncture the gloves you can just as easily sew the thread through the seam(s) on the fingertips without increasing any exposure.

      You'd probably need some fancy 11tybillion-decimal-place thermometer to detect any change in heat loss from the thread.

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    3. Re:N1 by sznupi · · Score: 1

      Making most of external surface from metal, glass, etc. seems also slightly bizarre. Those are materials which get, subjectively, damn cold and unpleasant to hold even when it's merely chilly outside.

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    4. Re:N1 by Mr.+Freeman · · Score: 0, Troll

      "Which is why I wish my phone had SOME physical buttons, say, for ANSWERING and HANGING UP. It's a bit ridiculous to have to take my gloves off to answer a call by swiping across the screen."

      What's worse, the crappy phone with an obvious flaw or the idiot who buys the crappy phone anyway?

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    5. Re:N1 by jenny1032 · · Score: 2, Informative

      We tested Agloves in a local grocery store freezer at -25Degrees F. They worked like a charm. They work because the silver is knitted throughout the entire glove. This is important because, if your fingers are too dry (because they are too cold) to conduct, usually SOME part of your hand has the moisture barrier to be conductive. That bio-charge moves through the gloves and to your fingertips, so Agloves continue to work in the cold. While they are warm gloves, they are not thick enough to keep you warm in -25 degrees for very long.

    6. Re:N1 by jenny1032 · · Score: 1

      I forgot to mention that the -25 degree test was for 25 minutes. We tried a Droid and an iPhone.

    7. Re:N1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which is why I wish my phone had SOME physical buttons, say, for ANSWERING and HANGING UP. It's a bit ridiculous to have to take my gloves off to answer a call by swiping across the screen.

      Use your nose.

    8. Re:N1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Use the nose luke!

    9. Re:N1 by Jethro · · Score: 1

      At -40 degrees, you better believe my nose is covered, too.

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    10. Re:N1 by Jethro · · Score: 1

      Like I mentioned above, at -40 you really, REALLY need to cover your nose, too.

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    11. Re:N1 by Jethro · · Score: 1

      I agree with you about most of that, except I really have no problem using my N1 for input, even when it's cold.

      Here's the thing though. I didn't get the N1 because it's a good phone. I got it because it's a cool little mobile computer. Honestly I don't really need to be able to use a web browser or email client without looking at the screen (:

      One of the nice things about an N1 (as opposed to, say, an iPhone) is that I can go to the developers forum(s) and put in a feature request to, say, have the phone answer by holding the trackball. There's pretty good odds that someone will do that.

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  13. Koreans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Koreans hassled by dogs. Like they're afraid of their food.

  14. I have a better idea. by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Man up, and don't wear gloves.

    Also, this technology is a cover-up. What they are actually developing here is touchscreen-enabled gloves for GOTHS. We've managed to keep them in line, and contain the infection because they don't have access to human technology. This would enable them to conquer the world. Just say NO to touchscreen-enabled gloves!

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    1. Re:I have a better idea. by H0p313ss · · Score: 3, Informative

      Man up, and don't wear gloves.

      In the real world day-to-day weather conditions can actually kill you if you're stupid. I strongly suspect you have never walked around in weather so cold that the humidity of your breath freezes your nose hairs and if the wind comes up you have to turn around and hide your face until it dies down.

      Man up here and you die son. You die a fool, not a hero.

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    2. Re:I have a better idea. by Chosen+Reject · · Score: 1

      I'm fairly certain that there is a large swath of land in the "real world" of which you speak where day-to-day weather conditions couldn't kill you no matter how stupid you were, at least not on the end of the temperature scale where gloves are required. Don't confuse the real world with the location you chose to live in.

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    3. Re:I have a better idea. by element-o.p. · · Score: 1

      Never underestimate the power of stupid people to bring about their own demise. IIRC, it's possible to die of hypothermia even in relatively mild conditions, if there's a little wind and you manage to soak your clothing (for example, by falling into a creek or pond).

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    4. Re:I have a better idea. by H0p313ss · · Score: 1

      Don't confuse the real world with the location you chose to live in.

      I do hope you were aiming for irony.

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    5. Re:I have a better idea. by Chosen+Reject · · Score: 1

      I just wasn't all that clear. I should have said, "Don't confuse the entirety of the 'real world' with the portion of it in which you live"

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  15. Do LCD sreens work win winter? by rossdee · · Score: 1

    Do LCD screens even work when its 40 below ? I thought they would freeze up.

    1. Re:Do LCD sreens work win winter? by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

      They become FCD.

  16. Just avoid Dots Gloves by spetey · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just please don't buy Dots Gloves. I was excited about them, bought them months ago based on their slick marketing, and finally got them delivered a couple weeks ago - they looked nothing like the ads. They were a pair of the cheapest, thinnest wool gloves you can imagine, with some conductive thread clumsily sewn over the very tips of the thumb and first two fingers. Horrible, horrible, horrible - so bad I've been looking for opportunities to give them bad word of mouth for it.

  17. Currently in Alaska, spent the last 8 in ND by Firethorn · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I am a self admitted Polar Bear. I wear shorts when there's snow on the ground.

    In the middle of winder I will be wearing so many layers it's not even funny. Gloves? I wear mittons because they're warmer.

    When they talk about it being so cold that exposed skin will freeze in less than 5 minutes, they mean it.

    Ability to use the phone even with gloves would help occasionally.

    Oh, and for the operating temperature thing - you keep the phone close to your body to keep it's temperature up.

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    1. Re:Currently in Alaska, spent the last 8 in ND by SleazyRidr · · Score: 1

      It just dipped below 70 here. I had to wear a coat.

    2. Re:Currently in Alaska, spent the last 8 in ND by Firethorn · · Score: 1

      Bah, coats are for when it hits 0F. ;)

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  18. The Complicator's Gloves...in reverse? by sznupi · · Score: 3, Informative

    ( http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/The_Complicator_0x27_s_Gloves.aspx )

    Yes, gloves. Many types of them - also fingerless gloves. Easy to make from cheap wool ones - and in this case cutting just the tips of two fingers will be usually enough, making them only slightly less warm.

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    1. Re:The Complicator's Gloves...in reverse? by Yvan256 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just in case someone from Digg is reading this... he meant cutting the tips of the glove fingers, not your own human fingers.

    2. Re:The Complicator's Gloves...in reverse? by sznupi · · Score: 1

      Would be more fun if you didn't warn them...

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    3. Re:The Complicator's Gloves...in reverse? by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 1

      Doesn't work well for Alaska, fingerless gloves from now till April aren't viable.

    4. Re:The Complicator's Gloves...in reverse? by tzot · · Score: 1

      > Doesn't work well for Alaska, fingerless gloves from now till April aren't viable.

      They are viable (for extremely low values of viable); you just have to keep on shortening the glove finger everytime the blue-black stuff at the edge of your hand finger falls off. With a slow enough shortening pace, you won't even notice that April came and you'll still have stumps to go.

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    5. Re:The Complicator's Gloves...in reverse? by kingturkey · · Score: 1

      I have some pretty awesome convertible fingerless gloves that have a flip up pocket, essentially changing between fingerless gloves and mittens. I don't know where you can get them other than a random handicrafts market somewhere in Peru though :P.

    6. Re:The Complicator's Gloves...in reverse? by jc42 · · Score: 1

      You can get those (convertible mittens/gloves) from llbean.com and rei.com, and probably in their stores if you have one nearby. A quick check showed that the llbean version is fleece and also has a little flip-over cover for the thumb tip. The rei version looks a lot warmer, but has only the mitten-like cover for the four fingers, not for the thumb.

      There are probably other sources for them, but they might be hard to find because they don't have a consistent name for them. Searching for both "mitten" and "glove" would probably turn up a lot of them in the first few pages, though.

      This sort of mitten/glove combo has been around since at least the 1970s. They're quite practical. All that I've seen have a velcro fastener to the mitten cover back when you want to expose the finger (or thumb) tips.

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    7. Re:The Complicator's Gloves...in reverse? by knavel · · Score: 1

      Or you could always just cut off the part covering the *pads* of the fingers, rather than expose the entire finger.

    8. Re:The Complicator's Gloves...in reverse? by sznupi · · Score: 1

      In my book - if it's too cold for normal warm gloves with two tips slightly exposed, it's too cold for any normal ones (thin enough to allow reasonable touchscreen handling in the first place)

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  19. MyGloves by d0hboy · · Score: 1

    Interesting stuff. From the article's image, the AGloves seem pretty utilitarian. There's also a company MyGloves* that produces gloves with similar functionality .. the difference is that they have conductivity elements on only the main digits of your hand (index, thumb) and they're stylized with different prints / marks / fabric, it seems. Just tossing that out for the masses to chew on..

  20. Another score for my N900... by plj · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...in addition to APT, general hackability and real qwerty for fast typing.

    It has resistive touchscreen and thus works well in -10 C, or so, when the gloves are not particularly thick.

    Not that well in -25 C though, as using thick mittens tends to make touch somewhat imprecise. ;) But at least I can use thinner gloves underneath them so that I won't have to take them completely off.

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  21. I have used these... by fritish · · Score: 1

    and they are actually really good. They aren't the warmest things in the world, but because of their snug, stretchy fit, they feel like they keep your hands warmer than other loose gloves I have worn.

    They are really comfortable too. The fabric is soft and stretchy, it's got a bit of spandex in it. The response using my Nexus One is fantastic. It's like I wasn't even wearing gloves.

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  22. Resitive screens anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or use a resitive screen. Honestly - I love mine. It's more accurate and although not as sensitive a capacitive I find light touches work very well. And i can poke it with anything I want and it works.

  23. Why isn't there a simple stylus solution? by Daetrin · · Score: 1

    I know there are capacitive styluses in existence for sale online, and i know it's possible to make one yourself if you want to deal with the hassle, but why isn't it possible to walk into _any_ cell phone store and just grab one off the shelf? Multi-touch is great for some applications, but in a lot of cases you only need to touch one spot at a time, and a stylus is much more accurate and obscures a lot less of the screen. I don't understand why there isn't more of a market for them. And it would solve the cold weather issue without requiring you to get a special style of gloves.

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    1. Re:Why isn't there a simple stylus solution? by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Anyone living in the Great White North able to comment? Where I live, it never gets cold enough to need gloves unless you're working outdoors.

    2. Re:Why isn't there a simple stylus solution? by DMUTPeregrine · · Score: 1

      RadioShack Cat# 63.338 $10. Probably in most Radio Shacks. I don't know of anything more likely to be local to most of the US.

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  24. My Nexus One screen is flaky without gloves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My Nexus One screen doesn't work well at 50 degrees or less even without gloves. With no other experience, I guess I figured that was true of all touchscreens.

  25. What do you think the sausages are made out of? by MrWim · · Score: 1

    Many South Koreans apparently turned to using sausages as a stylus but if you'd prefer not to be hassled by dogs as you type a text there are less meat product-based solutions

    Hassled by dogs? For Koreans it's a virtuous cycle

  26. I must be cheap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    because I use the "Russian engineering" approach--I just cut the tips of the fingers off.

  27. Devices with actual keyboards still available by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Surely a better solution than having to carry around special gloves for use with your Jobsian Fondle Slab*.

    * (c) El Reg

  28. projected capacitive? by hitmark · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Projected capacitive screens are supposedly able to register fingers even when gloves are worn.

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  29. I feel pedantic. by adolf · · Score: 1

    IIRC, it's possible to die of hypothermia even in relatively mild conditions, if there's a little wind and you manage to soak your clothing (for example, by falling into a creek or pond).

    (Just to bring this amusing and generally enjoyable digression back to the topic of TFA...)

    Yes, it sure is possible to freeze to death if you're a bit chilly, it's a bit windy, and a you're wet. But after all that, your fancy touch-screen phone is fucked anyway so no high-tech conductive glove in the world will help you call for assistance.

    1. Re:I feel pedantic. by element-o.p. · · Score: 1

      Lol, point taken.

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  30. Use a hotdog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Koreans are smart enough to use sausages as styluses when it is cold, why aren't you?

    Link (http://www.tomsguide.com/us/South-Korea-Sausages-iPhone-Stylus,news-5815.html ).

  31. Hooray for progress by jdimpson · · Score: 1

    Oh boy, instead of buying a $US0.50 stylus, I can buy a $US20.00 pair of gloves!

  32. WANTED: Bikini models for winter apparel by tclas · · Score: 1

    We're looking for bikini models willing to traipse about in the snow wearing gloves and looking ridiculous.

    1. Re:WANTED: Bikini models for winter apparel by Painted · · Score: 1

      Yeah I thought the product pictures on their site were pretty bizarre myself.

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