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Immaculate Conception In a Boa Constrictor

crudmonkey writes "Researchers have discovered a biological shocker: female boa constrictors are capable of giving birth asexually. But the surprise doesn't end there. The study in Biology Letters found that boa babies produced through this asexual reproduction — also known as parthenogenesis — sport a chromosomal oddity that researchers thought was impossible in reptiles. While researchers admit that the female in the study may have been a genetic freak, they say the findings should press researchers to re-think reptile reproduction. Virgin birth among reptiles, especially primitive ones like boas, they argue may be far commoner than ever expected."

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  1. Wow by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 4, Funny

    This can only fuel the cult of Raptor Jesus to unimaginable new heights.

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    1. Re:Wow by Hijacked+Public · · Score: 5, Funny

      More interesting than the article is that I now know there is such a thing as a serpentarium. Everywhere I've lived, and in all the movies I've watched, they've just been called 'reptile zoo' or something similar.

      I imagine people go into a serpentarium and the lights are low. Everyone sits down, reclines their seat back and stares upward. Then the lights come up to reveal thousands of serpents suspended from the ceiling, writhing around. People ooh and aah.

      Sounds awesome.

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    2. Re:Wow by kenrblan · · Score: 3, Funny

      Serpentarium sounds like the title of a song Metallica should write.

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    3. Re:Wow by The+Archon+V2.0 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I imagine people go into a serpentarium and the lights are low. Everyone sits down, reclines their seat back and stares upward. Then the lights come up to reveal thousands of serpents suspended from the ceiling, writhing around. People ooh and aah.

      And the guy sitting under the spitting cobra just screams a lot.

  2. Incorrect title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Immaculate conception != virgin birth.

  3. Immaculate Conception doesn't mean virgin birth by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Informative

    A lot of people make the mistake of equating "Immaculate Conception" to the virgin birth of Jesus. Actually, it refers to the birth of Mary (mother of Jesus) being born without Original Sin. What the author is referring to is the Annunciation, which is the virgin conception of Jesus within Mary.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immaculate_Conception

    1. Re:Immaculate Conception doesn't mean virgin birth by RealErmine · · Score: 4, Funny

      This must be the first time anyone has ever misinterpreted content from the Bible.

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    2. Re:Immaculate Conception doesn't mean virgin birth by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 2, Informative

      A lot of people making that mistake includes the vast majority of Roman Catholics.

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  4. Immaculate Conception? by Imnimo · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is not what Immaculate Conception means. The Immaculate Conception is the conception of Mary, not of Jesus, with the idea being that Mary is conceived without original sin so as to make her a proper vessel for Jesus. Then again, since snakes don't have original sin, maybe every snake conception is immaculate.

  5. And the chromosomal oddity is... by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 5, Informative

    Two WW chromosomes. In mammals, we have X and Y chromosomes to determine sex—but in reptiles, fish, and of course birds, the norm for a female is ZW, and the norm for a male is ZZ. This brought to you by Tilde R: Helping Those Who Hate RTFA.

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  6. Firssst posss.... by yamum · · Score: 3, Funny

    sssssst

  7. Pedantic nit... by Burning1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Asexual reproduction isn't the same as virgin birth.

    For all we know, that snake is a slut.

  8. Not immaculate conception by dogmatixpsych · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's not immaculate conception, it's a virgin birth. They are different. Immaculate conception means born without original sin (as in Mary was born without original sin and thus Christ was too). If you want more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immaculate_Conception

    I know this is a common misunderstanding but it is incorrect. I'm not Catholic, I've just been corrected about it in the past and thought I'd pass on the knowledge.

  9. That is so cool. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I always wondered where telemarketers came from.

  10. Chromosomal Oddity by cappp · · Score: 4, Informative
    The summary skips out on the interesting detail there

    The mother in question gave birth to not one, but two snake litters of all-female snakes with WW-chromosomes. Male snake cells have two Z chromosomes, while female snakes have a Z and a W. This is the first time a reptile has been seen with two W chromosomes, something thought peculiar to fish and amphibians. The snakes' litters also retained the mother's rare genetic coloring

    Also direct links to the study are here and here(pdf). The paper is "Evidence for viable, non-clonal but fatherless Boa constrictors" by Warren Booth, Daniel H. Johnson, Sharon Moore, Coby Schal, and Edward L. Vargo.

  11. I, for once,... by Lord+Juan · · Score: 2, Funny

    welcome our new immaculate boa overlords (or shall I say overladys?).

  12. More info by Strange+Ranger · · Score: 2, Informative
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  13. Makes founder events more likely. by RyanFenton · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Interesting tidbit: The vast majority of known snake species are capable of swimming. Get a snake washed out to sea, let it drift between islands on flotsam, and with this mutation, a lone female is suddenly capable of being the foundation of a new population in a new ecosystem.

    While not advantageous to individuals, this female-only birth trait would be a powerful force in mass extinction events, as it leads to a diverse set of multiply adaptive groups being formed, each specialized in a different direction for a different ecosystem niche. If a meteor equivalent hits, and all the rules of living change to some degree, you have a greater chance of having some in the right niche to survive.

    The downside is if female-only births become too common, you stand a chance of losing genetic diversity in the smaller groups - so it being in the background like this, only occasionally popping up makes sense for a species that might have gained benefit from it in more ancient life cycles.

    Ryan Fenton

  14. Male Audience... by webmistressrachel · · Score: 2, Funny

    I notice that this article is slowly working it's way down the homepage without even a First Post - perhaps all you men feel slightly inadequate now there's proof that yes, we women can do without you! Cue Anonymous Coward's relentless troll-biting and the silent army of female-hating Mods! GO!

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  15. commoner by nmg196 · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Commoner"?! - You mean "more common". I guess you'll tell me that 'commoner' sounds betterer....

  16. Re:Not immaculate conception by sznupi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Snakes are probably the best candidate you can find, for an animal that does have it. A bit more deserving than newborns actually, don't you think?

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  17. Re:Immaculate Conception? by jamesh · · Score: 2, Funny

    I thought that referred to Jesus being born without sin rather than to Mary being a virgin.

    Which is quite ironic given the part the snake plays in the garden of eden...

  18. Re:Poor little snake by multipartmixed · · Score: 3, Funny

    > Last time this sort of thing happened, I remember it didn't end
    > well for the fellow. What was his name?

    I'm not really up on Christian doctrine, but from reading the rest of this discussion, I believe you are referring to Raptor Jesus.

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  19. Re:Jurassic Park by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    What occurred in Jurassic Park was a stress-induced gender change due to a lack of males in the area - creating males out of adult females.

    That must have shocked the hell out of the lesbian raptor coven. Maybe that's why they were so pissed throughout the whole movie.

  20. Re:Immaculate Conception? by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 2, Informative

    The idea that sex == sin is ridiculous since God basically told people to go out and have loads of sex. Directly.

  21. Re:Immaculate Conception? by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 2, Funny

    You mean the whole "Go Forth and Multiply" line?

    I don't think he specified Asexually or not, or who knows, maybe he just wanted us to work on our Mad Minute Math skills.