Slashdot Mirror


World's Northernmost Town Gets Nightlights

Velcroman1 writes "On October 26, 2,000 Norwegians watched the sun set. The next time they'll see it rise? Sometime in February. Extended nighttime is an annual occurrence for the residents of Longyearbyen, Norway — Earth's northernmost town. Located at 78 degrees north latitude in the Arctic circle, Longyearbyen experiences a phenomenon called Polar Night, in which the town remains in perpetual darkness for four months each winter. To lighten up the seemingly endless night, Philips has started an experiment called 'Wake Up the Town.' And anyone who's complained about the brief daylight hours in winter will want to know how it works."

21 of 144 comments (clear)

  1. Slashvertising? by wvmarle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It may be me but that linked article very much reads like one big advertisement. Having the sponsor's name all over the place isn't helping of course. Anyhow great marketing, they even managed to get it on slashdot while it has nothing to do with tech whatsoever - and light therapy isn't something new either.

    1. Re:Slashvertising? by wvmarle · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Some 20 years ago I first heard about winter depression and light therapy to solve it, as winter depression is caused by not enough light. People are always happier when the sun shines than when it's cloudy all day: light is considered the reason.

      At the time the suggestion was to wear some headgear that would shine two fairly bright lights in your eyes from above (similar to the sun: it's direct light hits your eye, but doesn't blind you as you're not looking at it directly). Said to work quite well.

      I've been in the north of Norway during July (permanent day!), and the locals also told me that it's very easy to get depressed in winter due to the lack of daylight, and how everyone is looking forward to the return of the sun.

    2. Re:Slashvertising? by mcvos · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's not their latest product. It's existed for years, but apparently nobody had come up with the idea of marketing this in Spitsbergen.

    3. Re:Slashvertising? by elrous0 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I still remember an episode of Northern Exposure where one of the characters was walking around with that silly headgear on. Not that that made any sense, mind you, since the town where that show was set seemed to exist in a fictional world where they were both below the tree line and above the arctic circle.

      --
      SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
  2. This is an advertisement! by mattdm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's a gimmick. There's no gigantic artificial whole-town sun or anything. Certainly nothing "ultimate".

    Philips makes an alarm clock that includes a gradually-increasing bright light. They're couching this in the terms of an "experiment", but there's no actual science being performed. They just picked a north-of-the-arctic-circle town and gave away some of the product as a publicity stunt, and then sent out a text release, which is being published as news.

    I live in Boston, which is north enough for me. I have a different Philips lightbox product, and I think it does provide a useful regulation of my mood in late winter afternoons. But I don't think the science behind it is particularly well developed, even if it seems promising. I thought for a second as I started to read the aticle (after I realized it wasn't the giant artificial sun thing) that it was a real scientific experiment with control groups and so on. Even then, it'd be hard to really control, because you can't exactly do a double-blind study. But, it's actually even lamer than that.

    1. Re:This is an advertisement! by ikkonoishi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Double-blind studies are a type of study, but you don't need a double-blind study to have control groups.

    2. Re:This is an advertisement! by wvmarle · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I understand your joke, but it can still be done.

      You tell your subjects you're testing one thing, but you're testing another (with or without the knowledge of the tester).

      With these lights one could set up two groups; saying you want to test who has more problems getting out of bed in the morning, those with a traditional alarm or those with the light-based alarm clock (which is what I know these devices for). And then over the course of a month or two you interview the subjects every week and in that interview ask about getting up, but actually rate them on depression/happiness. This way you at least eliminate (most of) the placebo effect, and may get some interesting side results too, like whether they actually work to get you out of bed easier, albeit those results are likely less reliable.

  3. Not the northernmost... by aapold · · Score: 4, Informative

    There are settlements in Svalbard farther north....

    Pyramiden was a longtime soviet mining town in Svalbard that once was home to over a thousand people, it was abandoned in 1998 but is being redeveloped. It is 50km north of Longyearbyen. However since it currently is home to about 8 people we'll bypass that for Ny-Alesund, which is some to about 35 people year-round (over 120 in summer), and also farther north than Longyearbyen. It is listed as the "world's northernmost functional public settlement", whatever that means.

    --
    "Waste not one watt!" - CZ
    1. Re:Not the northernmost... by Barny · · Score: 4, Funny

      "world's northernmost functional public settlement"

      Well, not sure in other parts of the world, but here, in Australia, it means they have at least one pub :)

      --
      ...
      /me sighs
    2. Re:Not the northernmost... by CrashandDie · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I had to read TFS a few times, because I kept reading: "On October 26 2000, Norwegians watched the sun set." I'm a big sleeper, but even so, 10 years of darkness seemed really hardcore to me.

  4. Re:Depressing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I would love to be there. 24hours of light in summer! In winter you can go temporarily in some other place; but in fact, MOST people, face the same even at much lower latitudes: if you stay at the office from - say - 9.00 to 18.00, you will barely see the sun anyway.

    For this reason, to me 24 hours of daylight in summer far outweigh the darkness in winter.

  5. No it is not by aapold · · Score: 2, Interesting

    All of Svalbard (where Longyearbyen is located) is farthern north than Hammerfest.

    It depends on your definition of what a "town" is. Hammerfest has about 9000 people. Honningsvåg is nearby and farthern north in Norway and has about 2500. Longyearbyen has about 2000 people, and is much farther north than any spot in Norway proper. But as I mentioned in an earlier post, there are small settlements in Svalbard farther north, including Ny-Ålesund which is about 50km north of it, and home to about 35 people year-round (over 120 in summer).

    If you make some arbitrary designation on the smallest thing that can be called a town, then you could find one that makes it Hammerfest, I suppose.

    --
    "Waste not one watt!" - CZ
  6. Re:Depressing. by BigDXLT · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wouldn't wanna live there unless I had to. The darkness would mess with your eyesight, would put you in a low mood (to the point of depression) and your skin wouldn't produce enough vitamin E.

    And that's different from your parents basement in LA how? /profiling

  7. Article is BS. Alert Nunavut Canada is. by kurt555gs · · Score: 2, Informative

    Alert, Nunavut Canada is the worlds northernmost town. By a long way. Alert is 82 degrees North.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alert,_Nunavut

    The town in the article is far South of Alert.

    --
    * Carthago Delenda Est *
    1. Re:Article is BS. Alert Nunavut Canada is. by fadir · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I wouldn't call a settlement with just 5 permanents a town. Heck, I wouldn't even call it a village. It's more of a scientific outpost.

      Longyearbyen on the other hand is a real town, a small one, but a town.

  8. Cheaper alternative by cryptoluddite · · Score: 2, Funny

    Go to the local mass-market store like Lowes or even Target and look for a CFL bulb with the most lumens per watt. Also look for bulbs that have a curiously long life rating since these will not have any circuitry to use more power at startup to warm the bulb up. It doesn't matter if it says "instant on" or not (all slow-starting CFLs say "instant on")... in fact if the packaging is really loud about being "instant on!!!" then that's a good one to buy since it's guaranteed to take forever to get fully bright.

    Now you have a bulb that will take 5+ minutes to reach full brightness even pointed upward. Then get a cheap clip-on lamp and a wall outlet timer. Set the timer to turn the light on say 15 minutes before your alarm. If the 5+ minutes it takes to get fully bright is still too fast for you, point it downward so the bulb heats up more slowly (but this will lower the life of the bulb significantly if you leave it on). You're done. Total cost ~$20.

    So next time you play "CFL roulette" and get a really bad one you'll have a use for it. And since the really bad CFLs last for freaking ever (just to spite you) you'll soon have a huge stockpile of replacement bulbs for the time when all CFLs are actually instant on (yeah right...).

  9. Re:Depressing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Skin produces vitamin D when hit by sunlight, not vitamin E.

    Biologist-puuuuunch!

  10. Wake up lights aren't bright enough by amorsen · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have a wake up light, and I have supplemented it with one of those bright anti-depression lights on a timer. So when the wake up light hits maximum brightness, the 40W fluorescent comes on -- and THAT works.

    --
    Finally! A year of moderation! Ready for 2019?
  11. Light makes a huge difference... to some people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I live in Finland. Not as north as this town (obviously) but in a place with a few hours of light a day for a large part of the winter. And yes, it indeed causes a lot of depression. Or, I don't know whether one can say "Causes" but certainly amplifies. Let's say you're feeling down and then you won't see sunlight for a week (+don't feel like going outside because the temperature is at [-25C/-13F])... Yeah, it's a lot worse.

    But different people react to it in different ways. A few days ago, some foreign exchange students asked my sister about how dark it gets in the mid-winter and how can they cope with the depression. She answered that if they aren't feeling down yet, they probably won't. I don't know if it is about genes, nutrition or what but some people just feel down because of the darkeness, others won't.

    That brings me to the next subject... Actually, the mid-winter isn't the worst time. There is snow, a lot of it. It is cold and dark, sure... But the white snow is beautiful and any light that you have (stars, moon, northern lights, street lights...) is reflected from it in really nice way. The worst time for most people is actually late autumn: It is getting cold and and dark but you know that everything is only going to get colder and darker and there isn't any snow yet... When the mid-winter actually comes, people tend to be a lot happier. And they'll continue to get progressively more joyful all the way to the late summer.

    Despite the downsides, I would never want to move to a country with different climate. There is something so very beautiful in this cycle of darkness and light... Captcha: Patriot

  12. Re:Slashvertisement by nospam007 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Nice, but my wife would kill me if I used something that would wake her too when I have to get up.

    We use alarms for deaf people with a vibrator element that's put under the mattress cover, so only 1 person wakes up and not everybody else in the room/house.
    Best thing I ever had.

    http://www.harriscomm.com/catalog/default.php?cPath=42_123

  13. Re:Slashvertisement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm pretty sure a vibrator is the best thing she's ever had too, mate.