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Anti-Smartphone Phone Launched For Technophobes

geek4 writes "A Dutch company has launched what it calls 'the world's simplest phone,' targeting users who are sick of new-generation models. Only capable of making and receiving calls, John's Phone is dubbed the world's simplest mobile phone, specifically designed for anti-smartphones users. It does not provide any hi-tech features. No apps. No Internet. No camera. No text messaging. All you have to do — in fact, all you can do — is call, talk and hang up."

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  1. Expensive Price by Sonny+Yatsen · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Is it me or does £60 to £80, or about $95 to $127 dollars seem extremely overpriced for a phone with essentially no features?

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    1. Re:Expensive Price by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But having no features IS a feature!

    2. Re:Expensive Price by sgtstein · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Have you ever happened to look at what a normal smart phone costs these days when unsubsidized? I do realize that the price is still high but I have a feeling that's more so due to the low sales and manufacture numbers compared to other phones.

    3. Re:Expensive Price by AlanMJones · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The lack of features IS the expensive feature. Because of that the volume is low and the price per unit is higher to make it, I would expect.

    4. Re:Expensive Price by Sonny+Yatsen · · Score: 3, Interesting

      What I mean is, there's almost no expensive components in this phone. Heck, it doesn't even have a screen. All it needs is the simplest or the cheapest microprocessors that is capable of making a call. Yet, it still costs £60 to £80.

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    5. Re:Expensive Price by Ossifer · · Score: 3, Funny

      Whoa! That's all tekno-geek gibberish to me!

    6. Re:Expensive Price by blair1q · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm pretty sure you can get all the features this phone has in a free phone with a cheap voice plan, and just ignore the other features.

      Which makes this phone's release an art project, not part of a business plan.

    7. Re:Expensive Price by DanTheStone · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not really accurate. TracFone works hard to keep their phones locked, or at least did when you bought yours, because they're subsidized by the expected future revenue from purchase of airtime.

    8. Re:Expensive Price by rvw · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What I mean is, there's almost no expensive components in this phone. Heck, it doesn't even have a screen. All it needs is the simplest or the cheapest microprocessors that is capable of making a call. Yet, it still costs £60 to £80.

      I suspect it's so expensive because it's probably produced in small quantities. On the other hand, older people might just want a simple phone and are prepared to pay a little extra. For most people it's not that much extra, and in the long run this might be a really cheap deal because the buyer probably won't need the newest model in a year or so.

      My parents have a Sagem VS-1, which is much simpler than the standard phone nowadays, but still much more complex than this phone. I think there's a huge market for simple phones, even ones without a screen.

    9. Re:Expensive Price by nlawalker · · Score: 3, Funny

      Copyright Apple 1976-2010

    10. Re:Expensive Price by Abstrackt · · Score: 4, Funny

      Look at it this way:

      Lisa: "By your logic, I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away."
      Homer: "Hmm; how does it work?"
      Lisa: "It doesn’t work; it’s just a stupid rock!"
      Homer: "Uh-huh."
      Lisa: "But I don’t see any tigers around, do you?"
      Homer: "Lisa, I want to buy your rock."

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    11. Re:Expensive Price by treeves · · Score: 4, Interesting

      100% pure water is ... dangerous for your health

      Please don't spread this lie. If you rely on water to get all the carbonates, chlorides, sodium, calcium, iron, magnesium, potassium, etc. that you need, you probably should try eating food!

      If I drink a glass of water with no ions in it except hydronium and hydroxyl, it will cease to be so as soon as it touches my mouth, and if you tell me that it will leach out all the minerals in my body, that would be true of any water that contains a lower concentration of those ions than the fluid in my body does, but it would be hard to drink enough water for that to matter. Your body (specifically your kidneys) does a good job of maintaining homeostasis and keeping the electrolytes it needs and getting rid of the rest, whether you drink water with 50ppm of sodium chloride or water with zero electrolytes.

      As for the taste, you're right.
      But that's all it is. A matter of taste.

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    12. Re:Expensive Price by CRCulver · · Score: 2, Informative

      In the developing world you can easily get the lowest-end Nokia phones for 15-20, unlocked of course. Although now I have a Nokia N900 that I love very much, in the past I have often bought those super-cheap Nokias because they are inexpensive to replace if I lose one, and they are well-nigh indestructible (drop one from two meters and see it just bounce).

    13. Re:Expensive Price by MoonBuggy · · Score: 2, Informative

      Now, can someone please make a functional phone that's just a phone?

      They already did, it's called a Nokia 1100, they've sold quarter of a billion of the things (mostly in poorer countries, but they're available worldwide), and they do indeed cost less than $30 unlocked and unsubsidised.

      As I've said a few times, they got basic phones right years ago. Just because you don't hear about them doesn't mean they ceased to exist.

  2. Re:Obligatory anti- post by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 4, Funny

    They annihilate each other in an explosion of "hipsterons," the particles responsible for carrying the force of hipsterism.

  3. What about receiving calls? by michelcolman · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you can only call, talk and hang up, it doesn't appear very useful to me. Listening would be a nice addition, and receiving calls as well...

    1. Re:What about receiving calls? by Noughmad · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you can only call, talk and hang up, it doesn't appear very useful to me. Listening would be a nice addition, and receiving calls as well...

      It's obviously targeted at women.

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  4. Easy there nerd boy by jayhawk88 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...speed dial with enough memory to store ten numbers...

    Whoa whoa whoa....what now? What's all this fancy schmancy wizardry again? I'm expected to remember some arcane, complicated button combination simply to dial a phone number? It's always the same: you get something working just the way you want it, and some damn hot-shot wiz kid has to come along and make screw it all up.

    1. Re:Easy there nerd boy by roc97007 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Does anyone actually use speed dial on dumb phones?

      Usually it's so complicated to program (and every phone is different) that it's easier just to memorize the damned number.

      The biggest change in my life when I switched to a smartphone is that I finally started using the internal address book.

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  5. Re:Old people rejoice by synthesizerpatel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I imagine old people will enjoy 3 weeks of battery standby time and not being pestered by SMS spam.

  6. Ergonomics? by xanthines-R-yummy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is there a reason they designed the phone to look like a remote control or a weird pager? At least the other phones have some added capabilities to make up for the uncomfortable form factor. They might as well have put some more thought into making it comfortable to use in addition to ease-of-use.

  7. Jitterbug by Captain+Spam · · Score: 4, Informative

    Funny, I seem to recall TV ads a few years back for a series of phones — "Jitterbug", as it was called — that effectively did just this. Complete with the "old person afraid of smartphones" use case example. Though with screens (just to see the numbers as you dial them).

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    1. Re:Jitterbug by binarylarry · · Score: 3, Informative

      I bought one for my grandfather, it's a POS.

      50% of the time he doesn't receive calls.... they just hang up. And he's in a major city with otherwise great cell coverage.

      And it's not something he's doing, I've tested it myself.

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  8. Never happen but ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If they pulled all the crap out of it but did some serious engineering to optimize range and durability I could get them 10 sales instantly for our site people. We would probably pay TWICE that price. All they want is to be able to make calls on the edge of cell coverage after the phone has been knocked around in dusty environments and operated at -20C. New crappy phones often don't last a year and range seems to get worse with each new generation. They would fall in love with the things if they were water resistant as well...

  9. Technophobes? by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Condescending much?

    How about for people you don't need extra stuff/crap and just want a fucking phone? I'm a Unix/Windows SA and systems programmer with 4 computers at home (Windows and Linux) and have managed everything from Crays to PC - so, hardly a technophobe - and I still use my Qualcomm QCP-1900 from 1998. It cost me $200 with no-contract and my service is still $15/month (no contract). The thing still provides 6 hours of talk and two-weeks of standby.

    Sure, text and web might be nice - sometime - but I don't really need/want to be that "connected" all the time.

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    1. Re:Technophobes? by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Exactly. I have a very basic PAYG phone from VirginMobile. $20. No frills, no web, blah, blah. Why? Because I simply don't/can't use it much.
      At work, no cell phones. Period. At home, landline and multiple PC's. If we're out with friends, we're out with friends, not dinking around on the phone.

    2. Re:Technophobes? by godrik · · Score: 4, Insightful

      texting is a nice feature. But I must say I am very happy with my crappy basic phone. My shopping for phone session went something like:
      -"hello, I'm looking for a cheap phone that can call 911 and keep me in touch with my wife in case of emergency and that will last more than a week without being plugged in"
      -"Here is our cheapest nokia sir, have a good day"

  10. Three WEEK standby time!! by roc97007 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    According to TFA, the phone has a THREE WEEK standby time!

    Man, I'd almost give up my smartphone just for THAT.

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  11. anti-smartphone? by stcdm33 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Dumbphone?

  12. Bah, speed dial. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If I pay a hundred bucks for simplicity, I don't want no fancy speed-dial. Kidding aside, the perfect no-frills phone already exists, it's called the Motorola F3 and has an e-paper display which is readable under all lighting conditions, big keys and hands-free mode. It runs forever on one battery charge, it's quite thin, it is comparatively rugged because it was designed for the inhospitable environments of third world countries, and it's one of the cheapest phones in existence. If you really just need a phone and can do with very limited SMS capability, then the F3 is about as good as it gets.

  13. Re:Wait? No phone book? by rolfwind · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A jitterbug cell phone is what they should have been shooting for:
    http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2045/jitterbugcellphone.jpg

    It's a basic phone with oversize numbers on the screen, louder than normal speaker, and big buttons, generally geared towards the senior citizen market.

    The only problem is the jitterbug isn't a model you can buy (itself based on some Samsung phone iirc) and use on any service but rather an overpriced prepaid service (and I'm not against prepaid).

  14. Re:Wait? No phone book? by NevarMore · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think even the now disappearing "basic phones" have some sort of phone book/directory function. That's not mentioned in the summary. Also, I see it has no display of any kind. That is pretty bad. Even if this were an "anti-smartphone" there should be some sort of confirmation of the numbers pressed. That's just silly.

    You mean like all those phones made between 1900 and 1989 that only clicked or beeped? Even then you had to have your ear to the speaker.

  15. Re:Wait? No phone book? by Noexit · · Score: 3, Funny

    For years and years and years we used phones that didn't have any sort of confirmation of the numbers pressed. Shooot, I've got one on my desk right now that I just have to hope and pray I dial correctly without being able to double check myself.

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  16. Re:High Sales? by roc97007 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Agreed. What I don't like about the standard flip phone is the obligatory "web" button that can't be disabled. I'd take this product over that.

    My wife is a vehement technophobe, and she has a very simple flip-phone that she only marginally knows how to operate. Usually I hear "Hello? I can't hear you. Hello?" to which I am shouting "Hand. The. Phone. To. Your. Daughter." (Daughter has no problem hearing me on the same phone.) Not being there I can't be sure, but I suspect that wife is holding it upside down. I don't suppose that will change even with this phone.

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  17. Re:Wait? No phone book? by chemicaldave · · Score: 4, Informative

    I think even the now disappearing "basic phones" have some sort of phone book/directory function. That's not mentioned in the summary. Also, I see it has no display of any kind.

    The phone has a display for incoming calls. The address book exists in the form of a pad of paper on the back of the phone you can write on.

    I'm serious.

    Check it.

  18. Weak! by ryan.onsrc · · Score: 2, Funny

    Seriously -- what's up with the Cartman buttons?

  19. Re:Someone is listening. by viking099 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sony did a good job with a "justaphone" they recently released, the Naite.
    I bought one a few months ago for around $120. No contracts, basic phone, no sliding, good screen, some free games that are good, bluetooth, a decent camera, small form factor, and really good battery life. It even accepts standard microSD cards, if you need it.

    The free Sony management software is really pretty good, too. It offers phone backups, you can send/receive text messages through your machine while it's plugged in, and it didn't come with a lot of BS carrier lock-in stuff.

    Check it out, it's been perfect for me.

  20. Jitterbug by scorp1us · · Score: 4, Informative

    In the US, we already have such a phone, called a Jitterbug, and it is aimed at the geriatric market...

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  21. Yes, you may still be a technophobe. by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you're seriously considering this phone, especially paying extra for it -- have you seen it? RTFA.

    Let me put it this way: Why would you want a phone without at least an address book? I'm with you that it's gotten out of control, but why would I want a paper address-book stuck to the phone, so I can take it off the back, flip through it, and manually type that into the front? Every time I want to call someone, I'd have to do that.

    Or I can press probably fewer buttons than it would take to actually dial the number, and only have to remember the person's name.

    Yes, I do "just want a fucking phone." But this isn't just a fucking phone -- the paper addressbook does indeed scream "technophobe."

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    1. Re:Yes, you may still be a technophobe. by martin-boundary · · Score: 4, Insightful
      The real reason why people want phones with no features is the terrible, absolutely terrible, user interface design of all mobile phones (and that includes smartphones).

      When a phone has no features other than dialling a number, then (for example for a brick with a simple keypad) the interface fits well with the hardware design.

      When a phone has multiple features and you have to press complicated and unintuitive key combinations to access them, then there's a mismatch between what the hardware is designed for (simple keypad for typing numbers) and what the software is designed for (lots of things that don't map well onto keypad interaction).

      The same is true with menu systems. Cursor keys are simply awkward ways of interacting, and menus are awkward ways of using limited screen space in general.

      What's really needed is for a good designer to invent a totally new hardware paradigm for mobile phones that actually makes sense for the kind of software features we expect on mobile phones. That's much easier said than done. Instead, we're stuck with old style phone handset designs on one side, and old style PC/GUI/WIMP designs on the other, and every mobile phone designer tries to combine them in different ways, hoping to hit the jackpot, but always failing.

    2. Re:Yes, you may still be a technophobe. by lennier · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The real reason why people want phones with no features is the terrible, absolutely terrible, user interface design of all mobile phones (and that includes smartphones).

      It also includes cordless phones for the home.

      I bought a cheap cordless a while back when my existing one broke. The thing has a completely unpenetrable UI, by which I mean:
      * It has a numeric keypad, okay so far
      * It has a one-line LCD with a display for the typed number (ok so far) and a number of indicator icons (potentially good or bad)
      * It has the standard send/end/power keys
      * It also has a key with an icon of a clockface and an unrecognisable squiggle, which I don't know what it does. As far as I can tell, it doesn't do anything related to displaying or setting the time.
      * It has three blank context-sensitive function keys underneath the LCD, leaving me completely dependant on the icons to describe their functions
      * Typical LCD icons are: 'Half-circular arrow pointing counterclockwise', 'Rectangular grid of dots', 'Venn diagram of wo overlapping circles, one full, one empty'

      I discovered by trial and error that 'Venn diagram' icon seems to do a 'redial last number', and that 'rectangular grid' brings up a system configuration menu. However, 'counterclockwise arrow' doesn't seem to mean 'go back one level' like on every other phone. To get any further, I think I'll need to dig out the paper manual, which is somewhere in the garage along with 1,583 other empty boxes and manuals, most of which I've never needed to refer to.

      It's all just... very depressing. How hard can UI design really be?

      Very hard apparently, and icons don't make it easier.

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  22. Does this really help technophobes though? by elysiana · · Score: 4, Interesting

    On the one hand, I can see this being useful for people like my aunt, who have an "emergencies only" cell phone. Easy to understand, no frills, no chance of accidentally going online. I can also see it being useful for those who just don't want to bother with all the extras that are on phones anymore. Even my "dumbphone" has a camera, a media player, texting, and online capabilities, and I don't really need or want all that (Except texting. You can't take away my texting).

    On the other hand, I can't help but feel that pandering to an already technophobic crowd only makes their fears seem more substantial (to them, at least). With technology changing so incredibly rapidly, it doesn't seem like the best course of action is to put them in a bubble and tell them it'll be okay, we won't let the bad bad digital phone hurt them. Technological advancements aren't going to go backwards; at some point these people are going to have to learn something new.

    Mixed feelings.

  23. Surely not simpler than phones for kids.. by molo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This phone, the firefly, has just 5 buttons: call mom, call dad, phonebook, call, hangup.

    http://www.fireflymobile.com/store/firefly/

    -molo

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  24. Re:Old people rejoice by FlyingGuy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Here I am with MOD Points but they wont do me any good because a bunch of idiots mod'd you +5 insightful.

    Old People? I mean, really, OLD people? Good grief I would love to meet you some time so this OLD person kick your ass right up into the space the should be holding your brain since I doubt you would miss it.

    If this phone did not drop calls, lasted weeks on stand-by, gave me 24 hours of talk time and had decent ergonomics I would gladly beat my iPhone AND my wife's Android phone into silicon dust because neither of them is a good phone.

    Old People.. The better part of you ran down the crack of your mothers ass.

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