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LHC Scientists Create and Capture Antimatter

Velcroman1 writes "Scientists at the Large Hadron Collider have created antimatter in the form of antihydrogen, demonstrating how it's possible to capture and release it. The development could help researchers devise laboratory experiments to learn more about this strange substance, which mostly disappeared from the universe shortly after the Big Bang 14 billion years ago. Trapping any form of antimatter is difficult, because as soon as it meets normal matter — the stuff Earth and everything on it is made out of — the two annihilate each other in powerful explosions. 'We are getting close to the point at which we can do some classes of experiments on the properties of antihydrogen,' said Joel Fajans, a University of California, Berkeley professor of physics, and LBNL faculty scientist. 'Since no one has been able to make these types of measurements on antimatter atoms at all, it's a good start.'"

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  1. Still on track... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... for destroying the world in 2012.

  2. antihydrogen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    IANAP.. but..

        I think the temporary capture of antiprotons and antielectrons has been achieved before, since it is relatively easy. It is the significant-duration capture of antihydrogen (i.e. antiproton + antielectron, forming an electrically neutral 'anti-atom') which is new ( ? ). Please correct, and scold, me if I am wrong.

    1. Re:antihydrogen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      To support the above.. Here is a link to a paper referring to confinement of antiprotons. I do not know the date (how do I find it?), but it was apparently already cited back in 1993.

      http://www.springerlink.com/content/r5m0760242k25775/

    2. Re:antihydrogen by MozeeToby · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes, capturing anti-ions is relatively easy (still quite hard though) since you can just use magnetic fields to confine the anti-matter without it coming into contact with the walls of the container. Getting the anti-protons and anti-electrons to combine into a single atom that stays at a low enough energy level that it can be contained for a significant amount of time is hard, especially since it is neutral and can't be contained with magnetic fields. They managed it here by producing very, very cold anti-hydrogen so that the energy levels were low enough that they didn't immediately annihilate with the regular matter that made up the container.

    3. Re:antihydrogen by Phroon · · Score: 4, Informative

      I think the temporary capture of antiprotons and antielectrons has been achieved before

      You are correct. For example the Fermilab Antiproton Source, which creates antiprotons and stores them, has been in operation since 1985 [1], while the Fermilab Recycler has held onto a continuous stash of antiprotons for over a month [2]. And these are by no means the very first machines to capture and store antimatter, I'd have to dig though the history a bit more to find an earlier example.

      Production of Anti-hydrogen (antiproton orbited by a positron) seems to have been achieved in 1995 at CERN, with Fermilab confirming production in 1997 [3]. But those atoms were destroyed immediately after being created, this is the first time I've heard of anyone successfully storing anti-hydrogen for any long period of time. So yes, the headline is misleading, we've been capturing antimatter for quite some time, it's the fact that you are capturing the neutrally charged anti-hydrogen (antiproton -1, positron +1, total = 0) that's the real news.

    4. Re:antihydrogen by John+Hasler · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Getting the anti-protons and anti-electrons to combine into a single atom that stays at a low enough energy level that it can be contained for a significant amount of time is hard, especially since it is neutral and can't be contained with magnetic fields.

      I believe you can, by manipulating the dipole moment. Not easy.

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    5. Re:antihydrogen by rsborg · · Score: 3, Informative

      "But those atoms were destroyed immediately after being created"

      Does not compute..

      Simple explanation:

      1. Generate antiproton, confine in magnetic field
      2. Generate positron, confine in magnetic field
      3. Manipulate magnetic fields to get them to combine
      4. Combined particles neutralize each other's charge, forming a charge-neutral antihydrogen atom... which is no longer manipulable with magnetic fields ... and quickly reacts with nearby solid matter, annihilating itself.
      5. Newest capability is to use dipole moments to manipulate (weakly) antihydrogen and keep it contained for a longer period.
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  3. If it's antimatter.. by kheldan · · Score: 4, Funny

    ..then does that mean it doesn't matter? :-)

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    1. Re:If it's antimatter.. by cmiller173 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes, that is exactly what it does...to matter... it "doesn't" it.

  4. Only if... by MallocFork · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now if they could only create antiidiot we could release it and take care of most of the worlds problems.

  5. last get by Nadaka · · Score: 4, Funny

    This would have been a better joke if you said "last get" instead.

  6. Anti-matter behaves as expected, like matter by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The core is negative/neutral mass and the orbit is positive mass. Naturally, anti-matter electrical conductors conduct positive particles rather than negative. The questions of behavior that need to be answered is what exactly causes i.e. electroconductivity. Reversing the charges, in theory, won't affect the behavior insomuch as you have X mobile particles and Y non-mobile particles setting up orbits that should be the same (the nature of electrical charge attraction doesn't change), so anti-copper should conduct positrons like copper conducts electrons etc. The reality... we don't know, of course.

    It would be a big thing if someone created anti-copper AND it didn't behave exactly like copper when supplied with an anti-potential from an anti-battery.

    1. Re:Anti-matter behaves as expected, like matter by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Funny

      It would be a big thing if someone created anti-copper AND it didn't behave exactly like copper when supplied with an anti-potential from an anti-battery.

      Would anti-physicists finally get the polarity correct on the anti-battery or would it still be backwards?

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    2. Re:Anti-matter behaves as expected, like matter by MobyDisk · · Score: 4, Informative

      The positive particles (Protons) also have far more mass than negative particles (Electrons)

      Protons are not antimatter electrons. Positrons are antimatter electronis, and they do have the same mass as electrons. The antimatter opposite of a Proton is an anti-proton. The naming system is inconsistent, probably because the original creators of the names did not know about antimatter.

    3. Re:Anti-matter behaves as expected, like matter by Remus+Shepherd · · Score: 4, Informative

      No, you are correct. The only difference we *expect* to see from anti-matter is that the electrical charge is reversed. The mass, spin states, etc. should all be the same.

      What the scientists are looking for is the slim chance that anti-matter is different in some way. That would be exciting, because it would tell us something new.

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    4. Re:Anti-matter behaves as expected, like matter by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The core is negative/neutral mass and the orbit is positive mass. Naturally, anti-matter electrical conductors conduct positive particles rather than negative. The questions of behavior that need to be answered is what exactly causes i.e. electroconductivity. Reversing the charges, in theory, won't affect the behavior insomuch as you have X mobile particles and Y non-mobile particles setting up orbits that should be the same (the nature of electrical charge attraction doesn't change), so anti-copper should conduct positrons like copper conducts electrons etc. The reality... we don't know, of course.

      It would be a big thing if someone created anti-copper AND it didn't behave exactly like copper when supplied with an anti-potential from an anti-battery.

      Weird post unless you meant for it to be a joke that I didn't get.

      We don't know that the assumption that anti-H behaves like H is true, and there's value in experimentally examining as many aspects of its behavior as we can. I'm not sure why you seem to indicate otherwise.

      But then you go on to imply that electrical properties of anti-copper are the really interesting topic of anti-matter study. You seem to realize how incredibly difficult that would be. I don't understand why you declare one experiment to be uselessly redundant and the other a "big thing."

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  7. Re:2012 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Naw, the real question is, "Does it antimatter?"

  8. CERN != LHC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    ALPHA project is NOT a part of LHC. It is one of many other project at CERN that does not have much to do with LHC.

    1. Re:CERN != LHC by Taibhsear · · Score: 3, Informative

      To make antihydrogen, the accelerators that feed protons to the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) at CERN divert some of these to make antiprotons by slamming them into a metal target; the antiprotons that result are held in CERN’s Antimatter Decelerator ring, which delivers bunches of antiprotons to ALPHA and another antimatter experiment.

      source: http://newscenter.lbl.gov/news-releases/2010/11/17/antimatter-atoms/

  9. Antihydrogen production and capture is not new by JoshuaZ · · Score: 4, Informative

    Note that production and capture of antihydrogen is not new. There's been prior work trying to use it to test for possible CPT violations. See for example hussle.harvard.edu/~atrap/Papers/2010/AntihydrogenPhysicsToday.pdf, http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2005APS..DPPFP1058V and http://www.physics.harvard.edu/Thesespdfs/speck.pdf.

  10. Not the LHC (Summary and title are incorrect) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Antiprotons are relatively low-energy phenomena, being produced at 1 GeV. The LHC is a HIGH-energy facility, using energies 7000 times higher. Using the LHC to make antiprotons would be ridiculous overkill and counter-productive, since the ALPHA experiment needs antihydrogen at rest. Not every experiment at CERN uses the LHC. In this case, the cool bit of machinery is the Antiproton Decelerator (AD) and ALPHA's magnetic trapping system.

  11. Pix or it didn't happen. by RealGrouchy · · Score: 4, Funny

    If they really created antihydrogen, they should prove it by taking a photo.

    We'll have to be extra cautious that they don't just take a photo of regular hydrogen and apply a negative filter to the image.

    - RG>

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  12. Fox News, really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Stopped reading after the first sentence...

    Scientists working on the big bang machine in Geneva have done the seemingly impossible: create, capture and release antimatter.

    The "machine" in question does have a name, you know?
    BBC News also has coverage,
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11773791

  13. A link to Fox News? But not the CERN site? by aztektum · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm not trying to rag on Fox News here, but why link them and not CERN's press release page?

    Clicky

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  14. No; "powerful explosions" belongs to literature by sznupi · · Score: 4, Interesting

    First, most of the energy released in matter-antimatter annihilation is carried away by neutrinos.

    Secondly...CERN covered this on one occasion:

    The inefficiency of antimatter production is enormous: you get only a tenth of a billion (10-10) of the invested energy back. If we could assemble all the antimatter we've ever made at CERN and annihilate it with matter, we would have enough energy to light a single electric light bulb for a few minutes. ...

    Can we make antimatter bombs?

    No. It would take billions of years to produce enough antimatter for a bomb having the same destructiveness as ‘typical’ hydrogen bombs, of which there exist more than ten thousand already.

    Sociological note: scientists realized that the atom bomb was a real possibility many years before one was actually built and exploded, and then the public was totally surprised and amazed. On the other hand, the public somehow anticipates the antimatter bomb, but we have known for a long time that it cannot be realized in practice.

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  15. The LHC is in for trouble from the PETAM by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 3, Funny

    LHC Scientists Create and Capture Antimatter

    PETAM (People for the Ethical Treatment of Antimatter) are not going to be pleased with this. Especially the bits about physicists staging pit-bull style "dog fights" between matter and antimatter, and placing quantum mechanics based bets to the outcome of the duels.

    Remember, children, "God does not play dice!"

    And let that antimatter roam free! No capture, no antimatter!

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  16. Re:Really? by Taibhsear · · Score: 4, Informative
  17. Link to the Original by ONto · · Score: 3, Informative
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    Please use this link http://www.nature.com/news/2010/101117/full/468355a.html it was the original. Tired of the FOX News links.

  18. Re:Dumb Question by plover · · Score: 4, Funny

    How do you trap a neutral antiparticle?

    Tell him that his neutral anti-girlfriend is pregnant.

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  19. Re:Dumb Question by amRadioHed · · Score: 3, Funny

    Really, that sounds more like the answer to "How do you get a neutral antiparticle to skip town and never be heard from again".

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  20. Re:Dumb Question by ilsaloving · · Score: 4, Funny

    A neutron walks into a bar. He goes up to the counter and asks the bartender, "How much for a beer?"

    The bartender looks the neutron up and down and says, "For you? No charge."

  21. RTFA by Khashishi · · Score: 5, Informative

    They use the magnetic moment of the antihydrogen. They trap it for about 1/6 of a second, which isn't very long, considering we can trap charged antiparticles for weeks in Penning-Malmberg traps. But it's still impressive.

    1. Re:RTFA by Ihlosi · · Score: 4, Insightful
      They trap it for about 1/6 of a second, which isn't very long

      In particle physics, that's still about half an eternity.

  22. Re:Someone call Dr. Langdon... by interval1066 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "Then again, I always keep my distance from the Vatican."

    Too bad, the Vatican is a warehouse of historical art and documents that span almost 20 centuries, from ancient Celtic gold captured by Roman Emperors to some of the most exquisite illuminated French manuscripts ever known. Sculpture by Michelangelo, paintings by Titian, medieval tryptics chased with gold filigree, original manuscripts by pagan authors such as Plato, Cato, and Virgil... really amazing stuff. But you'll never see it as you have obviously made the wise choice of avoiding Christian Ground Zero. They might zap you with their evil baptism rays. Good for you.

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  23. Gotta love the sarcasm.. by cheros · · Score: 3, Informative

    At http://cerncourier.com/cws/article/cern/30577 you can read a slightly sarcastic piece about what it would take to hold the quantities that Dan Brown used in his books.

    Nice wry write-up - I like the details..

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  24. Re:How do we know? by John+Hasler · · Score: 3, Informative

    The space between our galaxy and the next one over is not empty. It contains extremely rarified gas. If the next galaxy was made of antimatter there would be a transition region where matter and antimatter would mix, collide, and emit easily detected gamma rays.

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  25. Re:Just my speculation.... by rubycodez · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not likely, we have a special image of the universe 400,000 years after it formed, the CMB from the "surface of last scattering" which shows that it was matter dominated (and very uniform) when it was 1/1100th it's present size.

  26. That's no neutron by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 5, Funny

    The bartender looks the neutron up and down and says, "For you? No charge."

    Of course if the bartender had been a particle physicist and looked him up and down then he would have said: "Hey you're no neutron, you are a quark short. That'll be full charge for you, you pion!"

  27. What a bunch of idiots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Why not just make a container out of anti-matter? Problem solved.

  28. Annihilate Inaccurate Story by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 4, Informative

    No but I wish it were possible to annihilate all the inaccuracies in the story! Alpha has NOTHING to do with the LHC other than happening to be in the same lab. These guys need to get the anti-protons down to almost zero velocity so starting with the highest energy machine on the planet would be stupid.

    In fact Alpha uses the Anti-proton Decelerator which uses the CERN Proton Synchrotron (PS) which is one of the low energy machines at CERN accelerating protons to only 25 GeV - which is so low in energy that the protons have to be accelerated by another machine, the SPS, before they can even be injected into the LHC for final acceleration!

  29. Re:Just my speculation.... by rubycodez · · Score: 5, Informative

    NASA's page is good, see the last 3 paragraphs under the title "surface of last scattering"

    http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/universe/bb_tests_cmb.html

    then could read the whole page from the beginning, good stuff.