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Wikileaks Vows Release '7x the Size' of Iraq Leak
CWmike writes "WikiLeaks has promised to release a load of information seven times bigger than the Iraq War Logs, which raised the Internet group's profile around the world and caused some nations to take notice of the issue of leaks of top-secret documents online. In a note on Twitter, WikiLeaks said, 'Next release is 7x the size of the Iraq War Logs. Intense pressure over it for months,' and asked supporters to continue donating to the cause. WikiLeaks did not say what the new release of information would be about."
WikiLeaks did not say what the new release of information would be about."
Oh no!
Not my top secret award winning BBQ Ribs recipe!
They're releasing more (7x more?), but have all the earlier pages been read, cataloged, etc? Do these people think we're just going to be sitting around during the holidays reading about US military mistakes?
So with my admittedly meager research (reading Slashdot and other sites), I can't figure out if the Wikileaks people are good guys or bad guys. Which is it?
Wikileaks accepts donations by mail. If you're paranoid, and you should be, buy a postal money order with cash and drop it in a mailbox. No return address!
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Maybe this time we'll get some real dirt, not just more 'War is destructive and violent and they try to pretty it up for us.' We all already knew that.
How does it feel to be a liar with pants constantly on fire?
I'm not sure I'd want to show up for an International arrest warrant if a government official that still retains a fair bit of clout was calling for my treatment as an enemy combatant. I'm sure that a trip to Guantanamo Bay would be completely off the table, right?
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which raised the Internet group's profile around the world and caused some nations to take notice of the issue of leaks of top-secret documents online
Have any of the documents leaked been Top Secret? According the reports I've read, the highest level of classification in these leaks has been Secret.
Com on, there's got to be more data than stuff related to the US. Do something on the PRC, or Russia, or the UK, or almost anything. You've proved your point - the US is far from perfect. Now can you point your crosshairs at some other country for a change?
Perhaps part of the problem making such a determination is the asymmetric nature of their leaks....It's more a function of the people involved in the leaks
No - it is more a function of how best to release the information to stop the organization. If you worked for the Taliban et al and were disgusted at their behaviour your best bet to stop that behaviour would be to secretly leak information to western governments who will then act to stop attacks. If you released it via Wikileaks your own organization would know that the information has been released and switch the attack to somewhere else and after an attack the information is public anyway.
Compare that to someone disgusted with the behaviour of a western government. The only people to whom these governments are somewhat accountable is their electorate. Hence, to stop the behaviour you are unhappy with the only choice you have is to leak the data publicly so that their electorate get to see it and demand an explanation and changes. So I would argue that the leaks might well be symmetric but that the terrorist leaks are more effective when kept secret and western government leaks more effective when made public.
here's what I want released, while we're in a release anything kinda mood... How about someone release the documents we captured from saddams oval office? They were referred to as the harmony docs, and were being translated by the FMSO. Remember the october surprise in the 2004 NYTimes: "bush leaks saddam's nuke primer on web"? I saw many of those docs... WMD specs, bio/chem training manuals, evading un inspectors. How 'bout releasing those?
Well, you could visit Argentina and ask Saddam himself. It was his double that was hanged. He was spirited away to Argentina and took up residence in Hitler's old villa.
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Careful, it is important to discriminate the Aljazeeras on the internet.
There is "english.aljazeera.net", which is a more or less factual, reliable news source from an arab perspective (think arab CNN). This is the "real" Aljazeera with the global TV channel.
Then there is "aljazeera.com", which is a trashy islamist/extremist propaganda website disguised as a news outlet (think FoxNews).
It's easy to pick on democracies. I'd love to see them blow the lid on countries like Iran, Syria and North Korea. They are consistently targeting the wrong guys.
Stop. Just stop now.
I'm sick and tired of rape jokes. Rape is not funny. Just don't.
The other day I overheard a 12 year old repeat a rape joke from family guy. It takes a lot to appall me but that did.
Wikileaks has leaked plenty about other governments, as well as corporations local and foreign. Heck it used to be the case that the majority was non-US. I've not looked in a while, but that could still be the case.
The problem is that its the US leaks that get all the Attention in the US news (not to mention that much of what they have on other governments just is not as "juicy" as some of the US leaks).
If you have have a copy of the Taliban's membership roster, or North Koera's nuclear plans, or something similar, Wikileaks would be more than happy to publish that.
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The higher the classification, the more that is done to protect the data. For example Confidential data, which is a level of classification, basically just means "Don't show this to anyone k?" You don't have to have a security clearance to see it. Secret requires a clearance, however it isn't as hard to get as higher level ones. There are also technical safeguards taken for the data, but not as much as some others. At Top Secret is starts to get pretty serious. The background check is much more intense, as are the restrictions on what you can personally do. The technical safeguards are also higher. While Secret data has its own network (SIPRNET) Ts data has its own network again, more secure.
Also a lot of TS data is actually TS/SCI (Sensitive Compartmentalized Information). More or less what this means is that not only do you have to be cleared Top Secret, but you have to get cleared in to the specific compartment. So just having TS clearance and a need to know the information isn't good enough, you have to be cleared in to that particular compartment and clearance for one isn't the same as clearance for another.
Now none of that means it is impervious, of course, but the more classified something is, the harder it'll be for someone to get their hands on it. The cables that were leaked were more or less classified Secret just because they were via the embassy and that stuff is considered sensitive be default. None of it was particularly special, they didn't take any extra precautions in terms of its transmission and so on.
To give you a simple sort of example:
That the NSA is headquartered inside Fort Meade is public.
That someone works there is probably Confidential.
That they work as a code breaker is probably Secret.
The results of their work is probably Top Secret.
The methods use to get the data for them is probably TS/SCI.
I served in Iraq twice and found many of the documents I wrote on Wikileaks, just check for Haditha from August 2006 to April 2007 or Karmah from Jan 2008 to August 2008. I wrote most of those. The funny thing is that all of these documents already actually available in unclassified form from the Marine Corps Historical Society in Quantico Virginia. The unclassified version from the Historical Society have the names, places, and weapons capabilities redacted. Which are the exact same redactions made by Wikileaks. So my question to the media is why haven't you been taking advantage of these documents from the archive? Why is this news when Wikileaks releases them? I think most journalists simply are too lazy to go through archives and just latch on to a story when it has some entertainment value. For all of the low-level documents Mr. Assange released, he has broken very little new ground. That is probably because most of it was already available from the military.
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Discussions of rape nowadays use examples of women who are asleep, or have taken drugs or drunk too much alcohol, in order to argue that they cannot properly consent to sex. If they feel taken advantage of the next day, they may call what happened rape. The Daphne project’s Sweden researchers propose that those accused of rape ought to have to ‘prove consent’, but attempts to legislate and document seduction and desire are unlikely to succeed.
I'm sure someone who speaks the language can provide some case law, but I'm sure you'd demand to see the original documents.
PS Obama was born in Hawaii. True story.