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Opera 11 Beta Released, With Extensions Support
An anonymous reader writes "Opera 11 Beta has just been released and now includes support for extensions. Also new in this release Tab Stacking, Visual Mouse Gestures, performance improvements, new installer, and much more. Even with its many new features, Opera 11 is 30% smaller than Opera 10.60. That means that Opera downloads more quickly and installs in fewer steps. There are over 130 extensions and climbing including NoScript and AdBlock! Extensions can be found here."
Opera had adblocking built in for a long time, it just needed a list - yes, somewhat more basic (much more basic script blocking also there); but even with rare updates of the list I don't remember having to use GUI website element blocker.
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>about fucking time
Say what?
How bloody hard is it to copy a file? A text one at that? How hard is it to literally grab and drag a file from "Download" to where your local .opera directory is, or to directly save the file to .opera?
So now it's got a GUI wrapper? BFD. It actually makes it *more* complicated.
I swear that every complaint that "Hurr, durr, Opera had no adblock" is an intelligence shibboleth. Those that said it are stupid, without reservation.
Two best browsers on the 'net - Chrome and Opera. Hands down. The others aren't even close. Not Webkit nor Gecko based browsers. And IE is just a special case all to itself - a reminder of a bygone era when standards didn't matter.
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BMO
No, comparing the HOSTS style block in Opera to ABP is like comparing a biplane to a jet fighter. Sure they'll both get off the ground but one is about 1000% nicer and more feature rich. for example: How do you block ONLY certain elements by wildcard? Domain? Subdomain? By extensions? with ABP if you can think it you can create a custom rule for it with "clicky clicky" ease. While I think Opera is a nice tool, especially for those on low bandwidth lines or low resource machines (although I prefer Kmeleon for low resource myself) it really doesn't compare to ABP.
Just as the script tool in Opera really doesn't compare to Noscript. everyone points out you can disable scripts, but with Opera it is all or nothing PERIOD. With NoScript I can run One, Some, A Few, Or All. I can tell a video to play while NOT allowing anything else. And considering how much "JavaScript malware o' the day" we see having that power is VERY important to me.
So while I wish Opera nothing but luck and hope the extension framework works well they really don't compare. In a way I'd say they are like a Mac and PC, in that one you pretty much take it as the designers intended it, the other can be "tweaked" quite easily with nice GUI clicky clicky add-ons. It really is a personal taste thing, but I just can't give up my extensions which I doubt most will even have an Opera equivalent. Oh and in case anyone asks the extensions I have is ABP/NS, IMGZoom, ForecastFox,Downloadhelper,downloadstatusbar, iMacros,Firefox Sync, cookieculler and FEBE.
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
http://blog.chromium.org/2010/03/does-your-browser-behave.html
^only about js, but it's quite characteristic and from a fabulous source.
Standards compliance of course might be a problem here and there, in places still not far from "best viewed in IE" - some pages unfortunately settled on "best in IE and FF" instead of targeting standards, not much of an improvement - but it's getting better. Especially where there's strong third or even fourth major player, as in most of CIS / ex Warsaw Pact (where BTW Opera is often actually at or near the top)
In fact, one funny thing: I keep an old version of Opera (9.27, a solid "classic" release) on an old dual PII 266 that I keep around and still boot sometimes. Lately many pages tend to work much better in it (despite obviously not targeting such old release, probably not even Opera generally) - I suspect due to dropping focus on IE6.
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To summarize sznupi's link:
Opera 10.50: 78 failures,
Safari 4: 159 failures,
Chrome 4: 218 failures,
Firefox 3.6: 259 failures and
Internet Explorer 8: 463 failures.
"His name was James Damore."
#1 browser in Ukraine, exchanging #1 spot with FF in Russian Federation, nearing 50% and far above other browsers in Belarus; generally a very notable share in most of ex Warsaw Pact. Some worldwide stats appear to be underreporting, by focusing on pages most likely to be visited by specific demographics / rarely visited by some others. How Opera is the #1 mobile web browser worldwide by website stats (despite most of its users being in places with expensive data access, certainly frugal about number of pages visited) might help one day, when those people shift to desktops.
Opera addons are at least based on W3C widget specs...
(if you really want speed you'd better not ignore Opera BTW - especially in cases when it really matters (slow machine, slow connection; this contributes to CIS popularity))
Anyway - they have healthy, rising profitability as is (also during the last 3 years)
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>>>I don't think that Opera is ever going to be anything better than that "Weird browser which few people use" - not on desktops anyway.
And yet everyone keeps copying ideas from Opera:
- tabbed browsing.
- "paste and go" in the address bar
- Opera Link (bookmarks stored online)
- Opera Turbo (speeds-up phone connections)
- Live Bookmarks
- Speed Dial (copied by Chrome)
- and on and on.
Opera is the innovator that everyone else copies.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - historian Evelyn Beatrice Hall
That's not Opera's fault. The web-developer looks at the browser code, sees "Opera", assumes it's a non-compliant browser, and then feeds it trash. Trash-in / Trash-out. It's the developer's fault.
It's also why Opera features "mask as firefox or IE" to trick the web-developer to feed proper code. Then it renders perfectly. I've found several pages that failed to render or gave me an "Opera not supported" feedback, but never found a page that refused to render properly after I used the "mask" option.
Opera passes all the ACID tests, which is more than Firefox 3.6 or IE8 could claim.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - historian Evelyn Beatrice Hall
Everyone always forgets the best feature of Opera; typing /. into the link bar is a shortcut to Slashdot!
The last version of Opera is toolkit-agnostic, and it integrates with both gtk and qt visuals, afaik
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