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Thought-Controlled Apps On Android May Not Be Far

Julie188 writes "A small PC device company wants to bring thought-controlled apps to the Android market. Mind Technologies (once known by the cute name of Jedi Mind) has promised to make it so. Mind Technologies makes PC devices (a game controller and mouse) that work with the strange-but-true Emotiv headset. Emotiv uses brain waves to operate machines. Although it sounds far fetched, electroencephalogram (EEG) controllers do work, but the products on the market so far are not as easy to use, let alone master, as their makers claim."

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  1. Wow, that's even worse by bobstreo · · Score: 3, Funny

    than a bluetooth douche tag

    1. Re:Wow, that's even worse by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Would it be?

      I think it'd be great!

      A few times now I'll be standing in line for one thing or another and someone will go "Hello?" so I turn slightly and say "Hi." And then they go "Are you still at work?" and I go "No, this is the bank, I don't work here" and they go "Oh, well, can I hitch a ride?" and then I go, "Well.. I don't really know you, but how far are you heading?" and they go "Great, see you in about 20 minutes" and I look perplexed for a moment, then I realize.

      If everyone who had a bluetooth were able to communicate via their mind to their phone instead of audibly, that would save me a lot of confusion. I welcome it with open arms.

    2. Re:Wow, that's even worse by goldaryn · · Score: 5, Funny

      If everyone who had a bluetooth were able to communicate via their mind to their phone instead of audibly, that would save me a lot of confusion. I welcome it with open arms.

      I realised recently that when I walk down the street and see someone talking to themself I now assume it's a Bluetooth headset. The other day this led to an interesting run-in with a good, old fashioned, crazy person. Sign of the times.

  2. Thought control on an Android by goldaryn · · Score: 4, Funny

    Obligatory: This isn't the Android you're looking for

  3. Would... by Konsalik · · Score: 5, Funny

    concentrating *really* hard be equal to sudo?

    1. Re:Would... by SharpFang · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, but it might lead to accidental core dump.

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  4. Oblig anti-tech wacko comment by SilverHatHacker · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If I were a pessimist, I would make some comment about how this could enable an app to listen in on your thoughts without your knowing, like a keylogger. Then I would probably add something about combining that with the GPS tracking available in most Android phones and possibly include a reference to the Thought Police.

    As it is, I welcome our new thought-controlled overlords/underlings?

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  5. Now how do I explain that to the women folk? by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 2, Funny

    Emotive uses brain waves to operate machines.

    When my computer is screaming, "Porn, porn . . . and more porn!"

    "Oh, it must be a problem with the new mouse, that is about to go meet its maker."

    "Where's my hammer . . . ?"

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  6. EEG is limited, but people forget that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    EEG-based brain-computer interfaces work fine, but there are definite physical limits to what you can do with them.

    You absolutely cannot "read thoughts" with EEG. It is not possible, it will almost certainly never be possible. This is a physical limitation due to being on the outside of the skull. The one and only thing EEG picks up is the amount of electrical activity in that general region. Sensitivity and signal-to-noise and environmental noise rejection will place further limitations since they will be somewhat lower on even a good consumer unit. Particularly if you don't want to shave your head before use.

    Now, if you realize that, if you respect the limits, you can still do some pretty cool stuff. It's not that hard to make a computer interface based on using an EEG to pick up a P300 response that is absolutely world-changing for people without the physical capacity to use something else. Devices like this have been in research for a bejesus long time now, and the only reason you don't see more use of things like the Emotiv headset for this purpose is that people with that sort of physical limitation generally can't put on the fancy brain-reading hat. (Researchers are currently working on a single-surgery implanted version which will stay in place for decades, so that won't be a problem forever.)

    But is this practical for everyday use? Well, for some things. For a smartphone interface, probably not - particularly for more effective headsets like Emotiv which use saline electrodes. The input afforded by an EEG-based interface is very low for a portable device with a smartphone's use scenarios. However, it could be a good secondary form of control for complex systems (starting with games), particularly if it's relegated to things like biosensing for biosensing's sake or mode switching. You can use it for direct input, and humans will learn VERY fast how to work it...but it's not really physically capable of providing the same level of direct input affordances that other methods could. Expecting it to do so is just not very realistic and shows a lack of understanding of the limitations of the physical processes involved.

  7. Re:If it was apple... by Nerdfest · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah, you laugh, but they can do it without any special hardware. Millions were convinced that copy and paste and multi-tasking were a bad idea.

  8. prior art by mug+funky · · Score: 2, Funny

    Apple has had mind control for years... just look at their army of fanboys.

  9. Apple had this a long time ago by t2t10 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Thought control has been built into iOS for a long time.

    How else would you explain this?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dikaQjMO388

  10. We were going to order some for FSU research by snizzle · · Score: 2, Interesting

    We were going to order some of these for the development of our recommendation system called "Smart Player" which is a phone app. But, the people at emotiv don't take payment through anything but paypal which is a problem for a University. "Just put the money in an anonymous paypal account".

  11. Summary confuses companies and tech by heironymous · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The slashdot summary is incorrect. Emotiv is made by a rival company, not by (formerly) Jedi mind. Also, Emotiv seems to recognize facial expressions, not read brain signals. So, there's some confusion here.