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Microsoft Ups Online War, Says Google's 'Failing'
CWmike writes "Raising the stakes in its war of words, Microsoft said on Tuesday that Google simply doesn't understand what businesses need, and is failing at pushing its way into the enterprise. In this edited version of his interview with Computerworld, Microsoft's senior director of Online Services, Tom Rizzo, talks about Google's privacy issues, scanning user data, the difference between consumer and corporate needs, and his doubts about Google surviving in the enterprise space. He also said he thinks Google will be shocked to see Microsoft's momentum into the enterprise cloud sector."
when your shit stinks, focus attention on someone else.
Given the market share that Google has in contextual advertising, I tend to disagree with Microsoft's conclusion. Of course I could be wrong, but I highly doubt it.
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He also said he thinks Google will be shocked to see Microsoft's momentum into the enterprise cloud sector.
Maybe, but that's ignoring the already massive size of Google in "the cloud." The only thing better than being about to unleash a can of whoop-ass is to be currently whooping ass.
I live in constant fear of the Coming of the Red Spiders.
What enterprise momentum in the cloud sector? What CIO is seriously going to shunt critical infrastructure into some cloud environment? Seriously? Who? Backups...maybe? Personal photos and email? Of course. But, trade secrets? Human Resources info? Salaries and performance evaluations? To the cloud? Really?
Really?
Google wants all my data. They make no effort at hiding that intent. But I do trust they aren't handing my data over. Microsoft has a specific patent on how to sell my private data, and has handed my private data over the government.
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When I want to know what the future trends of online services are, I know I can always count on Microsoft being the one to turn to when I want to know EXACTLY what will be next years abysmal laughingstock of failure will be.
I love how Bing maps only allows streetview to work in IE... how web2.0 of them
Google hasn't gotten too far with offering corporate services, and I suspect they aren't that interested. It's one thing to provide a free email service that is based on ad revenue and data mining. But selling that and providing an SLA offering 99.999% up-time is a different market. You have to provide real support and respond to issues - Google has forums for reporting bugs but I can't call them and say "Hey, my gmail isn't working" and get an answer. I can't call them and report that an RSS feed isn't working or that a gadget is screwing up my iGoogle page. And rightfully so -- those services are free perks. If you don't like 'em, don't use 'em - but they are the best of the free options.
Another interesting example is Google's "desktop" search tools. Google Desktop has been around for a decade and I've seen 1 or 2 small businesses use it, but no one large and not seriously. It is more like something that some techie guy installs on his machine and that's it, which is too bad because it is something businesses really need.
The guy goes in and talks about how it is bad that Google dumped offline support. So... ...an internet company that was founded and ran off of the net makes you use the net for support. Who uses anything by Google and is not online? Who uses Google's enterprise solutions and is not online? Yes, Google takes my data. I am well aware of that. I have small websites that I have built that will take your data if you on onto them. Like Google, I do not sell my information that I have gathered.
I do know that Microsoft has Azure, but that is all I know about it outside of knowing it exists. I honestly know more about Amazon's could space than Microsoft's. I am no expert and probably not the best and most reliable source of information. I am just a straight up web developer. If a normal web developer like myself has not heard of the Microsoft solutions outside of the name itself but has heard alot about the competition, then I would see that as them being behind the rest of the market since us normal web developers have not heard much about it.
The world is how you make it
We get these stories a lot on /. What's the surprise here? One competitor is talking smack about another. This is what they do. They do it on a regular basis. Wake me up when, I don't know, when Apple admits that the Android might be a good product. Or when hell freezes over. You know, whichever you want to use for your timepiece.
Google does not care about its Office products. It does not want any revenue from its cloud based office offerings. Google understood that as long as Microsoft is having a cash cow in the form of Microsoft Office, it will be able to out last any competitor. It can take losses in the billions, quarter after quarter and simply wait for the competitors to run out of money. Putting a crimp on the income stream of Ms-Office is the primary goal of Google. That it has achieved. No matter what, people are not going to pay the old norm prices for MS-Office.
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
And, maybe Microsoft doesn't understand what consumers need.
Hearing Microsoft actually say this is reminiscent of the whole "I'm a PC/I'm a Mac" commercials where the PC wants to do "fun stuff" like spreadsheets and pie charts.
This blind focus on what corporations need basically missed out on the existence of the consumer market. In a lot of ways, I think Apple has shown that going after the consumer market can be quite lucrative, since apparently nobody else is really focusing on that very well.
And, I've come to decide that anybody who cites a Gartner report is, by definition, talking out of their backside. Gartner says what companies pay them to say.
Lost at C:>. Found at C.
I think we ALL would be surprised to see Microsoft have momentum into the enterprise cloud sector, or any other server related sector...
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
Very easily.
The real world is a lot more pragmatic than a lot of people on /. would like to admit. You're not expected to physically go and meet everyone you buy services from and analyse how their product is delivered with a fine-toothed comb, and you're certainly not expected to run everything yourself. It's quite adequate for them to offer a contract which says "we'll keep your data confidential".
You can't stop someone suing you if they want to but you can show that contract to a judge and demonstrate that you did everything you reasonably could - with emphasis on the word "reasonably".
Or Wil Wheaton...
Alex Jones has a financial interest in making sure it looks like there's a conspiracy against him, no matter what form it takes.