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WikiLeaks Starts Mass Mirroring Effort

A beautiful mind writes "WikiLeaks is asking for hosting space on Unix-based servers. The replication is implemented by a rsync+ssh based push that copies static files to a known path, authenticated via the private half of this public key. The complete website is a few GB in size, making it feasible to replicate on a large scale. The mirror list will be published when the number of independent mirrors reaches 50." Note: wikileaks.ch seems to be down for the moment, but eventually the above links may require that instead of 213.251.145.96. See also this WikiLeaks address finder. And for even more news, try this Twitter search.

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  1. Make it static. by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Lower the barrier of entry even further, and just throw up a torrent or ten of static files which can be hosted anywhere, without fear of compromising your own server.

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    1. Re:Make it static. by Charliemopps · · Score: 5, Interesting

      He has to release it a bit at a time. The fact of the matter is, they have many many huge stories. If they release several bombshell issues at once, they are likely to have some of them ignored by the media because they'll just go after the most sensational stuff. They are playing the media like they should play the media.

    2. Re:Make it static. by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Another point of view is that WikiLeaks had best inspect what they release, and do their best to prevent putting lives at risk, especially those of innocent bystanders and those who are working for the greater good. They're damned if they do and damned if they don't: if they take their time to filter and redact, they are delaying and possibly twisting the truth, but if they don't do that, they are irresponsible.

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    3. Re:Make it static. by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Correction: By releasing them in small batches, they are ensuring that each story gets the attention it deserves .

      Any shitstorm that results from this isn't at the hands of wikileaks, but at the hands of those who actually caused the shitstorm. The people the cables are about.

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    4. Re:Make it static. by leehwtsohg · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Just to remind you - these latest cables are just the last and probably most significant of a huge list of things that wikileaks released. Look at the "all leaks archived" link on the wikileaks site for an incredible list of torrents of all the leaks that wikileaks already did, some of which already had great influence in some countries/companies (iceland, peru, australia...). It is not all about the US.

      I think that they are releasing the data so slowly, because there are many parts in it that have to be digested slowly - see for example the media flare up going on in spain because of the released documents, the clusterbombs issues in the UK, the anger in germany over the 15% overhead taken by the US army, etc. If it was all released in a day, such issues would be buried among hundreds of others of similar importance.

    5. Re:Make it static. by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 5, Interesting

      he's not the dictatorial leader of wikileaks that everyone imagines. I wish there was both a way to verify this and a way to disseminate the info so that everybody else would realise

      While true, it is not in wikileaks interest for this to become commonly known. Assange's job is to be the shit-shield for wikileaks, while everybody wastes their time hurling smear campaigns and arrest warrants against him, wikileaks is able to continue it's mission as before.

      Do you notice the dozens and dozens of replies to every wikileaks article that follow the general form: "I wouldn't be opposed to wikileaks, but Assange is a [tool/jerk/douche/rapist/spy/...]"? That is wikileaks strategy in action. Since you are in on the truth, feel free to laugh at them :)

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    6. Re:Make it static. by Skal+Tura · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Thank god i live and was born in Finland. Freedom of speech seems to still be somewhat appreciated around here - and people know that i host Wikileaks mirrors. If i disappear mysticiously, several hundred people will know really fast, and they will tell their friends and so on - a full blown media frenzy fast, if anything happens. Operating a rather large hosting company for our niche has it's benefits too ;)

      So i'm not afraid, and i trust that if there was life endangering information Assange and his team have censored that bit. In the earlier leaks there was huge concern of such, but i saw articles that there was nothing which endangered lives directly.

      But i do know this: What the US banks are doing *NEEDS* and *HAS TO* be released publicly. It seems so likely they are doing quite a fraud, apart from what's already visible (tax payers bailing them out).

      Yes, i am quite a bit feeling like checking the "Post Anonymously" box, but that only goes to show that governments are not serving citizens anymore! Governments should be afraid of citizens, not vice-versa. and drawing to the comfort that i do happen to live in Finland, a neutral country, and for the most part our government wants to do the right thing. Let alone that our president isn't afraid to be aggressive to voice her and our governments opinion if she sees wrong doing, even if it hasn't anything to do directly with us. Yes, Finland is a weird tiny big country.

    7. Re:Make it static. by copponex · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You really think we didn't know there is complicity with Pakistan on the drones

      The United States and Pakistan denied that. Specifically, they denied earlier reports that a private military force from Blackwater/Xe was operating in that country without the knowledge of many people in the American and Pakistani governments, and certainly their citizens. This proves that they were both lying to their constituents. At what point on the road to fascism would you like to stop?

      How about this? Did Assange provide leaks...

      I'm not chasing any red herrings today, thanks.

      Everyone has their own agenda, and diplomacy is the art of navigating those agendas without the consent of your citizenry, and often in direct opposition to their interests.

      Fixed that for you.

      Without privacy there is no diplomacy and without diplomacy there are wars.

      The only thing preventing me from believing that is the entirety of modern history. If diplomacy wasn't built on lies, it wouldn't break down and cause war all of the time. If everyone knew that that Saddam Hussein was a US henchman, there would be no public support for the Iraq War in 2003. (Support had to be manufactured from forged documents obtained diplomatically from Britain.) If everyone knew that Saudi Arabia was the leading funder of Al Qaeda, we wouldn't be in Afghanistan. We wouldn't have just sold Saudi Arabia sixty billion dollars in advanced weaponry.

      Lets tape all your private conversations...

      Let's establish first that my private conversations and intimate relationships are responsible for death, destruction, and the soiling of Constitutional principles. They are called public servants for a fucking reason.

      I have no problem with Assange and what he is trying to do in the name of openness. His approach seems to be lets shoot for idealism no matter who it fucks. I am not saying the approach is bad, but it is naive to blindly believe it will have positive results.

      Right now the world is shooting for greed no matter who it fucks. I'd rather be committed to ideals.

      This fucking realpolitik is astounding from the mouths of Americans. You have no reason to plead fealty to power, but you choose to do it out of sheer cowardice and apathy. Apparently your civil liberties will have to be entirely destroyed before you value them again.

    8. Re:Make it static. by grcumb · · Score: 5, Funny

      The US may then benefit from attempting to crack the encrypted cables and releasing them all at once....

      I suspect that the US already has them in unencrypted form. 8^)

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    9. Re:Make it static. by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I was going to make a post saying it's rather poor planning to only just now realize the necessity of a de-centralized distribution model.

      I think the most important part of wikileaks is not so much the content of the leaks, but the reaction of people in power to them.

      We have learned more about the connection between corporation and the power in the past week than we have in the past several years.

      While the content of the Citibank leaks will be most interesting, the all-out scramble to stop Wikileaks and jail Assange that started the day after it was announced that the next document dump would be from Citibank tells us a whole lot about where the power really lies in this world, and who's really in charge. It also shows just how much of what passes for "government" and "sovereign nation" is nothing but theater to keep us entertained while those that really rule the world execute their agenda. The way they took down wikileaks, severed their connection to donations and continue to play whack-a-mole with a website shows just how meaningless our "rule of law" really is when they really want to get rid of something and cover up some information about their activities.

      How fitting that Interpol should issue arrest warrants for Julian Assange and former Vice President Dick Cheney within 24 hours of each other. As I've said before, one of those two men was guilty of leaking the identity of a covert CIA agent and only one of those men has the blood of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians on his hands. I wonder if Interpol will spend the same resources executing the arrest warrant on Cheney as they will on Assange. So an admitted traitor and war criminal can act with impunity but someone who simply publishes a web site of documents that other people provide is considered Public Enemy No 1.

      The Wikileaks Saga is an amazing story, and its just starting. There is the possibility, however remote, that the world can be a changed place because of Wikileaks.

      As Assange quoted Theodore Roosevelt: "“Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people...To destroy this invisible government, to befoul this unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of statesmanship.”

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    10. Re:Make it static. by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      he's doing the release in a way to cause the most damage.

      Whatever Assange's motivation, it seems to me that the way he's releasing them is doing the most good.

      Our only hope at this point is to disrupt the race by corporatists to create a world feudal state. If you don't believe that the goal is to create a feudal state, just look at the change in US society since Ronald Reagan. Our corporatist puppet government is actually in the process of letting millions of American families fall into poverty so that people making more than $250,000.00 per year won't have to go back to paying the same taxes they paid during the 1990's, a decade that was so kind to the rich. We have a political party that has promised that nothing will be done, and the government may shut down unless the most prosperous get to keep the reduced tax rate that George W Bush gave them a decade ago, a reduction that increased the deficit by nearly a trillion dollars.

      In 1979, the top 2 percent of the population owned 10% of the nation's wealth. Today, it's over 50%. Even more shocking is the fact that the bottom 40% (FORTY PERCENT) own exactly 0% of the nation's wealth. That's a feudal society. So maybe the US middle class won't have as much money to spend on consumer goods, so they just move on to China where they're just now starting to give out the credit cards. And the Chinese leaders are just pushing their population down the chute to the economic killing floor. The cycle of "middle class growth, middle class collapse, feudalism" that took the better part of a century in the US will take just a few decades in China.

      Just think of the amazing story that got lost in the shuffle last week about the audit of the Fed and the huge sums that were given to companies like Verizon. Bailouts for companies that didn't need bailouts, just because. And they're going to pay for it with cuts in Social Security and health care for elderly.

      It can't be disrupted fast enough.

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  2. No stopping the current information at least. by Jugalator · · Score: 5, Informative

    Since it's already released. It's already been revealed at least in Swedish news, that part of the encrypted "insurance" file that's been distributed via BT, is the *full* cablegate archive -- remember that by far most haven't been released yet, at least not to non-news organizations. And that's part of that file, and then some unknown stuff too. So if anything would happen to these guys that would piss them off enough, they'd just release the keys and boom, thousands of users would have this data.

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  3. They really should call this... by owlnation · · Score: 5, Funny

    Operation Streisand!

  4. The first real battle of the internet? by nurb432 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Could this be the first real battle waged mostly in the digital world? Every free country is out to get this guy and prevent him from getting his word out. The outcome of this will speak volumes for the future for the concept of being able to speak your mind.

    ( yes, i know there is questions about legality of the data, but that isn't the real issue here )

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  5. Consider it carefully -- Re:I'd host it if.... by siddesu · · Score: 5, Informative

    While I am kinda rooting for wikileaks in this, I think anyone who is considering to sign up to think about this:

    1. you give them shell access to your host
    2. you grant access on the basis of a ssh public key, which you're getting from an unencrypted page. It could be anyone's and it could be coming from anywhere.

    Consider the risks carefully before you sign up.

    Wikileaks: please put some more thinking into your backup plans, even if you have to come up with them in emergency.

  6. Re:As a US Citizen, by PsychoSlashDot · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So, being a US citizen here, and presently in the US, if I offer up a personal box, how much trouble am I in legally?

    If I do get 'hauled in' what could I possibly be charged with?

    As someone who isn't a US politician, I'm not equipped to fully answer your question. They're the ones with the power. They're the ones whose wrongdoings are being revealed. That's a really grim combination. I'm guessing that you're in exactly as much trouble as they decide and you'll be charged with whatever they feel like. Probably treason or some trumped up terrorism charge.

    Understand this: patriotism in the US now means supporting the government, not the constitution.

    The only thing you can do to protect yourself is educate as many fellow citizens as possible and vote for anyone who isn't in favor of the idiocy going on. If there are no non-idiot candidates left, frankly it's time to rebel. But that's just my opinion.

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  7. This is fantastic by frank_carmody · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I live in Thailand and WikiLeaks is blocked here for some ridiculous reason. The more the 'authorities' around the world try to squeeze the balloon, the more it bubbles out somewhere else. So this is golden for me. The more they are forced to host their site in a non-conventional highly-distributed way, the easier it becomes for the people of Thailand to access it.

  8. If Assange is a douchebag, by unity100 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He is MY douchebag. He is the way i would want any douchebag to be like. I would share a flat with such a douchebag, at any given point.

    As far as douchebags go, there were a lot of douchebags among the people who have pioneered this age of democracy that the power elite has made null and void.

    Benjamin franklin used to strip naked and sit on a chair in the middle of a long corridor in his mansion, after opening the windows from both sides and ensuring that the corridor had good breeze.

    Thomas paine was SO aggressive in his crusade against religion that, he set up a church of reason, and started a new religion.

    i can go on and on.

    in the list that can be made out of quirkiness, oddness, douchebagness of those people who now we see as pioneers of freedom or fighters of democracy, assanges alleged 'douchebagness' wouldnt even qualify in the top 100.

    and it is as another poster had just commented: assange has done more than any western government did for freedom and democracy, since world war II.

    our governments do not want us to know things they have done. this was supposed to be a democracy, in which people were in power, as 'we the people'. we have become 'them the people', who are herded.

    wake up. wikileaks is what we have. assange and his team, are the ones doing it. support them. for your future and your children's.

  9. Bravo by Slutticus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Never have mod points when I really need them. I've never seen people so terrified of the truth since.....well....hmmm.... I'd REALLY like to get a look at those Cheney Energy Task Force documents that they've been hiding from us for 10 years. I can hope that these will be leaked eventually.

    1. Re:Bravo by Zancarius · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Never have mod points when I really need them. I've never seen people so terrified of the truth since.....well....hmmm.... I'd REALLY like to get a look at those Cheney Energy Task Force documents that they've been hiding from us for 10 years. I can hope that these will be leaked eventually.

      What I find funny is that a lot of Americans find this leak to be quite a relief. The only people who seem so pissed off about it are those in positions of power. They don't want us to know the truth, and at this point, I'd expect next year to see increasing pressure on things like the COICA and/or other measures to grant the Federal government the ability to censor information. Can't have the people finding out what their leadership is up to! Even some people on the right of the political spectrum here in the US (*raises hand*) are in favor of what WikiLeaks is doing; although, as I see it, you can't pick and choose your battles in pursuit of liberty, transparency, and fairness. That's why I see this as both hilariously entertaining and, generally, a good thing.

      It is comedic to me that the Obama administration has only managed to live up to their promise of offering the most transparent administration in history by way of an Australian foreign national leaking secretive wires that were handed over to him.

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  10. Re:TMI by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's your list. Other people have their lists, perhaps overlapping. You have no more standing than anyone else to claim yours is the correct list.

    As for the value of the Karzai assessments and English prince quips, they are what has focused public attention on these leaks, including the ones you agree are worth releasing. Without the gossipy ones, the corporate mass media of the world would ignore all of it, except as headlines about Assange himself, which would be largely attacking him, and counterproductive to getting the public to look at the leaks.

    Which is in fact the main problem, that's now exposed. The NY Times wasn't directly given copies of these leaks, because they spun the last leaks to make it harder to get leaks to the public, the opposite of their role as supposed journalists. Most US media was exposed as at least subservient to government messages, however false and even inane, attacking the releases, and in many cases actively collaborating with the government to protect it from public perception. That's the government's job, to protect itself, and mixing the two is the most seriously bad fact exposed by this leak. It should now be perfectly clear to a lot more people that in the normal course of events our journalists collaborate with government on propaganda, rather than inform the public about what's done supposedly in the service of the people. Probably the greatest defect in our society, directly protecting the two others: bribery and reckless debt at every level.

    The other big problem is just the ridiculously broad sweep of secrecy in the US government. Secret "security letters" prohibiting people telling even their wives they've been indicted, let alone the public that is named as the complainant in the secret court cases. Secret wiretaps on everyone, web email and phone. "National security" excuses that kill lawsuits by people imprisoned and tortured for years without any evidence there's even a reason they were captured. All "secret", so immune to any due process, yet in reality available to something like three million people with "security clearance". At least one of whom wasn't reliable enough not to leak this stuff to Wikileaks. Securing so much info among so many authorized people is probably impossible, yet the government pretends that it's necessary and practical - a huge waste, as well as a severe security risk in the much smaller amount of info that really should remain secret, at least for a while.

    Then there's the big problem in international diplomacy itself. That applecart is letting the Iraq War go into its 9th year, the Afghanistan War go into its 10th, military action spreading to many countries, Iran continuing towards a bomb, N Korea actually bombing S Korea, genocide continuing in Sudan, drug wars consuming Mexico without releasing Columbia or any other country already in it... That applecart needs to be upset. The amount of damage done by these mostly petty revelations mostly damages the counterproductive complacency that US diplomacy cruises under. Indeed, despite the government's various whiners about how damaging these leaks are, the State Department totally refused to help Wikileaks redact the leaks - proving they value whining about it more than whatever's damaged by it. More truth reported to the public along the way would make diplomacy better, more effective, more trustworthy instead of just an ocean of lies no one believes.

    This leak was a purge. The actual damage was small and localized. The actual damage done by the systems it upset is much worse. There is no end in sight for that business as usual unless it's upset. This leak is a chance for that to be upset. And as we now enter the phase of actual recriminations against someone not in the club of domesticated "journalists", including arresting Assange for "rape" and terminating Wikileaks access to the Internet without any due process, and perhaps even assassinating him or someone close to him as people including the Canadian prime minister have called for in public, there will be more backlash. And a hell of a lot of backlash against this incompetent yet tyrannical security state is both earned and long overdue.

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  11. Re:TMI by Sprouticus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I used to think this. Upon further consideration I changed my mind. Just because this is how thing have been done in the past, why does it have to be done this way now? Why can't we have diplomacy without back room deals? Why cant peoples REAL opinions be exposed and known.

    I think if there was more honesty in the world things would be better. Maybe not easier, but better.

  12. I donated dec 3rd via paypal, now pay pal has it by wallydallas · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I donated money via pay pal on Dec 3rd, the day wikileaks had their account cut off. Pay pal accounts are often put on a 180 day hold. I called paypal to verify my money is no longer held in paypal. They said they can say nothing about the issue. They would not even send that to me in writing. They would not give me a dispute number or any other tracking number for my unanswered question. The only comment they had was to contact the better business bureau. Anyone know a good laywer willing to call the pay pal legal department and find out where my donation is sitting?

  13. This is why the need to use ssh/push by ugen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think it is fairly obvious why wikileaks wants to use ssh/push method to mirror their data. They can't use polling because, frankly, with the way they are being pushed around and shut down all the time there is just no way to guarantee that any host, domain name or IP address they provide would be available for an extended period of time.

    Push method with a specific public/private key would allow them to push content from anywhere, as they are being chased and forced to change servers and providers.

    I thought it was obvious but may be worth clarifying.

    Btw, the main site seems to be down again.

  14. Re:Everyone else in the media are compromised. by misexistentialist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The only way he could be compromised would be if he released fabricated documents. He is being accused of a lot of things, but no one has dared question his honesty.

  15. Re: Feudalism, etc by Klinky · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nice prose full of fluff that let's you try to blame the lower classes for their circumstances. The people who built the Pyramids were not paid, build them or die. Conscripted soldiers were not paid, fight or die. Infrastructure and paying the people cost us more money than that infrastructure produced? Even though citizens and businesses rely on this infrastructure every single day? How about all the "make-workers" in middle or upper management? How about whole companies setup just to stifle competition and leech(patent trolls). How about people in corporations/government to lobby & be buddy buddy with each other to lock out competition? How about an entire industry that was setup to make imaginary financial derivatives that had absolutely no value to them and plummeting the economy into the worst recession/depression since The Great Depression? There is a lot of spinning tires going on at all levels. Usually the people on the bottom are the ones who are actually physically doing the labor and "being productive", those above are usually whipping boys making sure the cattle is getting more productive each year. Rarely are the people at the bottom there because they have tenancies to want to blow people up overseas or stealing from people, more likely it's to survive and they do not have many resources around them to succeed.

    Those who go to war & those who do crime usually have something in common: they're poor. The military & crime may offer them the quickest way out of their circumstances. Usually going to war means doing the bidding of rich men. Also I am not sure when was that last time we released our prisoners to go to war? I am not aware of us emptying any of our prisons to send inmates over to Iraq...

    Usually middle-class workers "paradise" goes away because "the elite"/Corporatocracy sees that people are getting a bigger piece of the pie and devises ways to extract that piece to make their own piece bigger. This is partially a folly of "growth based" economies where nothing is ever enough. Find, exploit, consume, move on. Or what's been more popular as of late "Fraud, exploit, consume, move on". Most companies in positions are power are not there because they got there honestly. Exploitation, fraud, bribes, wars..etc... It's dirty power and nothing worth looking up to.

    Please do define, what resources the middle-class exploited & depleted in the US that caused the downfall of the US middle class? I would suggest the move towards globalism has done more to harm the middle-class, but then again Globalism has brought us cheap plastic stuff from china, that was cheap because it's exploiting the Chinese people. Thought it's been bigger for corporations who can legally pay people slave wages.

    How would you suggest we change our modes of production to be more efficient? Can you give some examples? Is that a euphemism for something else? Pointless fluff? Can you give some hard examples where the US can reinvent itself with "modern more efficient modes of production", yeesh sounds like I read that off a PowerPoint presentation.

  16. For those that can't mirror, you can still help! by chipwich · · Score: 5, Informative

    I know I'm preaching to the choir, here, but human-nature says that most people (even Slashdotters) are watching this unfold without realizing they can be a part of it.

    The WL episode is showing us that our own politicians would readily abandon core values of democracy in order to avoid embarrassment. It also clearly demonstrates that we live in a world where our personal communications can readily be disrupted at the whim of private corporations under pressure from these same politicians.

    Democracy can only thrive with the uninhibited exchange of communications between individuals. If you want to help ensure democracy, do any of the following:


    1) Run a TOR server ( http://www.torproject.org/ ). This is software that helps provide freedom and privacy by encrypting and distributing network communications. If you don't want to run TOR on your machine, rent a Virtual Private Server (VPS) and do it on someone else's box.


    2) Support the EFF ( http://www.eff.org/ ). This organization understands technology and knows that in the digital age, information is power.


    3) Support open-source distributed alternatives to web-based software-as-a-service. EveryDNS, Paypal, Twitter, Amazon's EC2, and even our beloved Google are points of vulnerability in democracy since their fundamental obligation is to shareholders instead of to an innate code of ethics. How would you find information if Google bowed to Government pressure? The only thing that will ensure corporations stay in line is the existence of alternatives such as a distributed search engine (http://yacy.de/ ).


    4) Support open-source software by using it, contributing time or money to its development, and requesting that our Governments make policies to use it. The world would be a very different place if the power of public-key-encryption was kept solely in Government and Corporate hands. Only Free and Open Source Software ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_open_source_software ) ensures that all members of society who use information technology are on the same footing.


    5) Let others know what is at stake, spread the word. Democracy takes active participation, and this takes patience and explanation so that nontechnical Constituents have the understanding that you possess.


    Our communications technology is only a tool and can be used to both facilitate democracy and better the world, or to enslave humankind. We are witnessing the first infowar of the digital age, and the powers that be will use it to push hard for bans on encryption, crackdown on peer-to-peer communication, and other information tools.

    Will you watch silently and let information technology turn into a tool of repression, or will you take a stand while you still can? The race is on, do something!