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Japanese Robot Picks Only the Ripest Strawberries

kkleiner writes "The Institute of Agricultural Machinery at Japan's National Agriculture and Food Research Organization, along with SI Seiko, has developed a robot that can select and harvest strawberries based on their color. Ripened berries are detected using the robot's stereoscopic cameras, and analyzed to measure how red they appear. When the fruit is ready to come off the vine, the robot quickly locates it in 3D space and cuts it free. From observation to collection, the harvesting process takes about 9 seconds per berry. Creators estimate that it will be able to cut down harvesting time by 40%."

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  1. One step... by TheKidWho · · Score: 3, Funny

    One step away from harvesting humans!

    These robots are the real zombies, they need brains to power their neural net.

  2. can strawberries ripen in transit? by ChipMonk · · Score: 2

    Because if they can, then we'd want the robots to pick them before they're ripe, so that they'll be ripe just as they show up on the display case in the store.

    1. Re:can strawberries ripen in transit? by hedwards · · Score: 2

      Not that big a deal, all you do is mix different fruits together. Things like peaches release ethylene which will cause produce to ripen. There's nothing wrong with that. And honestly there's a bit too much paranoia when it comes to chemicals. The only concern over synthetic versions of natural chemicals is if there's a bit of byproduct left which might be dangerous.

    2. Re:can strawberries ripen in transit? by Hatta · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's not that ethylene is bad, it's that ripening off the vine sucks. You're stuck with the amount of flavor when picked, ethylene just softens the fruit. On the vine the fruit can keep adding flavor as it softens. Strawberries are really only good ripened on the vine and eaten within 24 hours of being picked. Anything else is a pale imitation.

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    3. Re:can strawberries ripen in transit? by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 2

      Yeah, the fruit mixing thing works, true. I have no problems with chemicals per se - heck, I am a biochemist by trade. I just don't want tasteless, textureless industry strawberries resembling the atrocity the Netherlands used to unleash on the world under the label of "tomato". Thankfully that has improved a bit lately, though.

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  3. It is over 97% percent accurate! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    In under 3% of cases the robot shoots the strawberry with a rocket launcher.

    1. Re:It is over 97% percent accurate! by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      But only the ripe ones!

      Well, or so we think, it's kinda hard to tell...

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  4. How to change economics to fit abundance... by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://knol.google.com/k/paul-d-fernhout/beyond-a-jobless-recovery
    "This article explores the issue of a "Jobless Recovery" mainly from a heterodox economic perspective. It emphasizes the implications of ideas by Marshall Brain and others that improvements in robotics, automation, design, and voluntary social networks are fundamentally changing the structure of the economic landscape. It outlines towards the end four major alternatives to mainstream economic practice (a basic income, a gift economy, stronger local subsistence economies, and resource-based planning). These alternatives could be used in combination to address what, even as far back as 1964, has been described as a breaking "income-through-jobs link". This link between jobs and income is breaking because of the declining value of most paid human labor relative to capital investments in automation and better design. Or, as is now the case, the value of paid human labor like at some newspapers or universities is also declining relative to the output of voluntary social networks such as for digital content production (like represented by this document). It is suggested that we will need to fundamentally reevaluate our economic theories and practices to adjust to these new realities emerging from exponential trends in technology and society."

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    1. Re:How to change economics to fit abundance... by Onymous+Coward · · Score: 2

      Very interesting. Thanks for your work on this. I'll read it.

      Meanwhile, for everyone else, here's a sci-fi primer on the idea of Burger-G and how you can expect to lose your job:

      Manna

  5. Reducing illegal immigration? by AJWM · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Get the price of such robots down enough and there'll be little incentive to pay sub-par wages to migrant field workers. (Regardless of immigration status, but illegals are more exploitable.)

    Conversely it could be because we've long had a source of cheap field labor that the US agricultural machinery business hasn't made such advances in robotics. Pity, really -- many of the issues a robotic strawberry picker has to deal with are common to the activity of a whole range of other robots. Build a general purpose agricultural field worker robot and have alternate software loads (and perhaps interchangeable picker mechanisms) for blueberries, tomatoes, whatever.

    (Such picker robots, with appropriate sensors, could also be adapted to tasks like minefield clearing. Although that might lead to a scenario like that in the TV adaptation of Heinlein's "Jerry Was a Man".)

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    1. Re:Reducing illegal immigration? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

      Unless you change the socioeconomic fabric of most of the 'third world' or somehow manage to pull off a full scale device copier ala Neal Stephenson or Star Trek, the economics are always going to strongly favor the cheap, disposable, highly configurable human.

      To paraphrase Heinlein - Humans can make more humans, that's a trick that robots haven't figured out yet.

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    2. Re:Reducing illegal immigration? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Picking grapes by machine would be very interesting. If you drive around the south of France, you see fields of grapes for miles, all of which need to be harvested by hand to make wine. There's often quite a short period between the grapes being read to harvest and being overripe for wine making, and harvesting them at exactly the right point can make a big difference to the quality of the final product. If you could make robots that would travel up and down the fields quickly, revisiting each vine each day over a week or so and picking the grapes at exactly the right time (rather than, as humans do, when the majority are at the right level of ripeness), then I can imagine that you'd have some customers who would be very happy to pay a premium for the machine.

      I doubt the situation is the same for strawberries. They aren't exactly luxury goods and so cost is the most important factor.

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    3. Re:Reducing illegal immigration? by Puls4r · · Score: 2

      Really? That's interesting. I must have missed the pictures where Americans grow their strawberrys on shelves like that, in climate controlled automatically ferilized and watered greenhouses, etc etc etc. I think, perhaps, we might do well to understand what is driving them to that rather expensive farming method: lack of space. That forces them into a tiered shelving system indoor that is already significantly automated and is ideal for a delicate robot vision / automation system that could move along rails. Then we can compare that to our system of doing it in nice, dirty fields with uneven ground, where the strawberries are not hanging from pretty shelves but must be located under and behind foilage and picked. I applaud your optimism, but this is really not much of an innovation considering we've been using vision systems for the same sort of things in mass production for the last 20 years. We're not to the point of flying cars just yet.

    4. Re:Reducing illegal immigration? by Mspangler · · Score: 2

      Also having grown up on a farm, I'm more optimistic than you.

      Robots to work in the cold is not a problem because there are no berries to pick, or anything else to harvest at 20 below zero. Too much heat for people is little trouble for electronics. Almost any chip will take 120 F. The rest is just fans. If we can cool a Pentium 4, we can keep the harvester circuits cool enough.

      You do have a point with human supervision required for some cases, but again you can air condition a cab (or a supervisor's trailer) easily. It's a lot easier to be in a tractor with an enclosed cab than sitting on the "M" on a hot July day covered in the chaff from the oats combine. (We had a tow-behind model.)

      GPS on a berry farm seems like overkill. Install a two or three local RF beacons. Triangulate off of them.

      Now, how much armor plate does it take to get it to survive the blackberry patch?

      And how long until it can do cucumbers? Those were the bane of my childhood, as picking them was the only solution to my cash shortage.

      And how long until it can distinguish weeds from crops?

    5. Re:Reducing illegal immigration? by Troggie87 · · Score: 2

      GPS units are primarily used in Kansas, and other extremely flat areas. There are superfarms syncing them together to allow one driver to control multiple machines as well. Though that is the stereotype of agriculture, there are many, many places that aren't flat and barren (and where the farms aren't big enough to justify the expense). In those areas the technology isn't catching on nearly as well, because of the issues I mentioned. And I don't know about you, but my car GPS loses strengh on cloudy days (and I know from firsthand accounts tractor GPSs do as well). In some areas the loss isn't nearly as significant, but for whatever reason rural areas struggle with GPS reception in general. I don't know much about how the GPS network works, so I can't comment on why that would be.

    6. Re:Reducing illegal immigration? by JanneM · · Score: 2

      I think, perhaps, we might do well to understand what is driving them to that rather expensive farming method: lack of space.

      Nope. There's plenty of farmland around in Japan; a fair amount of high-quality farmland lies fallow, in fact, from a lack of interest in using it. The reasons for the interest in factory farms (the indoor farming you've seen) and robotics are somewhat different. It's potentially much more effective and with higher-quality yield than open-field farming, where each plant gets the optimal amount of light and nutrients, no pests and no pesticides, and the same results no matter what the season or weather. And you can have small-scale farms that are still efficient, so a large restaurant could actually grow some of their own produce to the exact standards they want, all year round.

      It would take fewer people to work such a farm too, and even more so with robots. The major reason for fallow land in Japan is the lack of people willing to be farmers in a distant rural area - the average age is already above retirement age - so this would be a way both to reduce the number of people needed, and move the industry to where people want to live and work.

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    7. Re:Reducing illegal immigration? by drolli · · Score: 2

      Rural areas have bad GPS reception?

      No. I know how GPS works (physicist with rf&signal processing experience), i see no mechanism for this but false rumors. Furthermore my personal experience tells me that the worst thing for GPS are cities. It takes (i have a quite old unit) 2-5 Minutes to get a fix in Tokyo, but only 20 Seconds if i am in Hakone, even in a mountain area (which are the second worst thing). In the city its actually so bad, i always use "my location" from google map, which does not use GPS. I imagine its pretty bad if you are on the valley of the Grand Canyon or not good if you are at the bottom of any deep valley, but being in a rural environment should make it better. And yes, rain/clouds will influence the signal strength, but normally this does not make GPS impossible at all.

      And that agrees with my idea on how GPS works, and with the manual of the device.

    8. Re:Reducing illegal immigration? by sjames · · Score: 2

      And how long until it can distinguish weeds from crops?

      That's easy, have the robot rip it out of the ground. If it's back next week, it's a weed. :-)

  6. Re:Lot of track? by AJWM · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Locomotion and selection are two distinct problems. Presumably the selection/picking components could be added to a suitable chassis designed for navigation real fields (which could support a host of other picking and crop-tending apps).

    If not, then they still don't need a track for each row, just a track that can be moved from one row to another. Perhaps make the fields circular with a radial track, like some irrigation systems.

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  7. Re:Lot of track? by nospam007 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Having a dozen people lying on their stomach on each side of a tractor puller 'wings' isn't cheaper.

    http://www.slk.at/fileadmin/img/Fotobewerb/fw_Gurkenflieger_Norbert_Breuer_4100_Ottensheim.jpg

  8. Re:Lot of track? by vadim_t · · Score: 2

    I suppose that if this provides enough of an advantage, then it makes sense to rework the whole field so that it lies on a perfectly flat and straight grid.

    It's been done with warehouses (Kiva for instance), so why not in a field?

  9. No Thank You by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Truly amazing technology! But... The idea that this sort of thing will free people to lead more leisure lives is nonsense. What technology like this does is eliminate jobs for humans, who will than have to find other jobs, and eventually, in the end, result in huge unemployment, and a more defined caste system of super rich and dirt poor.

    Seriously.

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    1. Re:No Thank You by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 2

      Only as long as we allow the constant accumulation of wealth in the hands of the few. It does not necessarily have to be that way.

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    2. Re:No Thank You by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 2

      So is it better for the humans who lose their jobs picking strawberries 8 hours a day ...

      Gain some perspective. It is *not* the task itself, but the *trend* to automate. As machines replace those who for whatever reason choose or find themselves in physical labor, those jobs will go away, and people who are *good but simple* will no longer have jobs. After them, *YOUR* "middle class" job will be eliminated, and you will become part of the Surfs. Think about it, and you will see that in the end of the "Automate Everything" trend, only the rich and super rich will have meaningful lives and the only alternative will be subservience.

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    3. Re:No Thank You by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Really? I have lots of free time, work far shorter hours, have a much higher standard of living than my parents did at my age and a vastly higher standard of living than any of my grandparents did at my age. I'm definitely not super rich (well, except in the sense that anyone living in an industrialised western nation is in the top 10% of the world's wealth), but I certainly would not be able to enjoy my current lifestyle if it were not for the fact that automation has brought down the cost of living comfortably. If wheat still needed to be harvested by men with scythes and clothes still needed to be hand sewn from cloth made by someone with a hand loom that took a week to weave a single piece (from hand-spun wool), then I would be barely able to afford food, let alone clothes.

      I live in a society where bread is so cheap that I can afford to eat a few slices from a loaf and then throw the rest of it away! And this isn't even a prerogative of the middle classes, even the 'poor' people can generally afford to do it. I can walk into a hospital or a GP's surgery and be prescribed drugs that will cure diseases that would have killed the richest man in the world a hundred years ago. This is almost entirely due to automation.

      Yes, some jobs have gone away, but somehow I don't really find the fact that I never had the opportunity as a child to work in a coal mine particularly upsetting. I am very happy, in contrast, with the fact that I can be paid to write books and articles by a publisher in the USA and by companies all over the world to write code. This would have been completely impossible even thirty years ago and difficult ten or so years ago.

      Seriously.

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    4. Re:No Thank You by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 2

      Because the "middle class" is increasingly becoming closer to the poorer classes than the rich class?

    5. Re:No Thank You by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 2

      Well sure, the *good but simple* people will lose out, but what about the *mediocre and retarded* people?

      You know, if you're that much of an asshole, well, sucks to be you.

      In the end, self-centered assholes like you die alone and lonely. So enjoy.

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    6. Re:No Thank You by hedwards · · Score: 2

      You said what I was going to say much more succinctly. 80 years ago the assumption was that workers would be down to like 4 hours a day by now. Due to gains in efficiency. Instead what happened was the rich started to take bigger slices, like they had prior to the labor movement.

      Of course it doesn't help that people start to buy things they didn't need and didn't particularly want and definitely couldn't afford.

    7. Re:No Thank You by hedwards · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's not true. My last job was paying $27k a year. Rent around here if you want some place decent to live it is at least $8400 a year, health insurance if you're paying out of pocket is easily another $3600, bus pass is another grand there. Then there's the taxes, another something like $3300 for social security and another grand or so for income tax.

      And when you get to the bottom line there's very little left over for actual life. I was busting my hump for that money, and it still wasn't realistically enough to live a reasonably good life. Certainly not enough to throw away food or waste stuff I'd paid for.

    8. Re:No Thank You by timeOday · · Score: 2

      I have lots of free time, work far shorter hours, have a much higher standard of living than my parents did at my age

      Are you an immigrant? That is no longer the norm in the US.

    9. Re:No Thank You by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

      I've noticed that all of the people replying with counterarguments have made it very clear that they are in the USA. I'm not - I live and was born in the UK, as were my parents and most of my grandparents. I was replying to the grandparent's point that automation never improved the standard of living for anyone other than the ultra-rich. I pointed out that this is clearly not the case. If you want to find a reason for the growing gulf between rich and poor (or ultra-rich and everyone else) in the USA, then you need to look elsewhere. I'd start with the fear of socialism.

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  10. Re:Lot of track? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    The video seems to show this moving on smooth straight metal tracks. I wonder how adapting it to travel on uneven dirt paths will affect it's ability to cut the intended strawberry? Either that or they run track up each row in their one square kilometer field.

    A lot of premium strawberry production is done hydroponically in greenhouses, especially in Japan. An almost ideal, controlled environment for robotic gardening.

  11. Re:Lot of track? by AllWorkAndNoPlay · · Score: 2

    If the selection/picking algorithms are designed with the assumption that the robot will be perfectly upright and square to the ground, it's going to get really confused when one wheel of the cart is sitting on a rock. Using sensors to provide data to instruct actuators is all well and good, but it needs to be calibrated to support real-world data. Moving around the field, on dirt, will provide rather different data than metal tracks. I don't think the two problems are necessarily distinct.

  12. Re:Goodbye Mexicans! by couchslug · · Score: 3, Interesting

    While "Goodbye Mexicans" is a bit flamey, automating the jobs locals will never willingly do has always been a logical goal.

    When we reduce manual labor, remove some jobs that draw poor people to the US, increase profits and make our farms more competitive we win.

    We don't scrap massive combine harvesters in favor of horse-drawn equipment because they enormously increase productivity. Harvesting is dull, dirty, and sometime dangerous, ideal for robots.

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  13. Re:Goodbye Mexicans! by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And yet the design and manufacturing of these robots will take place in Japan so we won't see many local jobs from this except for some repair jobs.

  14. Re:and whats the fail out when very few have healt by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 2

    That's exactly the problem here - capitalism won't work when we automatize most of the jobs. We are seeing the transition into that right here, right now. The only question remaining is if the current system can fail and transform gracefully, or if it will end up in violence. I am not optimistic.

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  15. Re:and whats the fail out when very few have healt by zach_the_lizard · · Score: 2

    They said the same thing when the first steam engine powered the first factory. Human greed will never go away, and that is the engine of capitalism, not money, not labor. We will find other unmet wants to work on.

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  16. Too slow. by Animats · · Score: 4, Informative

    From observation to collection, the harvesting process takes about 9 seconds per berry. That's too slow.

    This isn't the first strawberry-picking robot. Here's one from five years ago. But compare this with a commercial strawberry harvester that's just digging up the beds. (Note, incidentally, that the tractor is driverless. That's standard precision farming technology today; several GPS manufacturers make the gear for that.)

    Automated fruit sorting using computer vision is a routine process, and it's really fast. Small-fruit sorting machines are strange to watch. Cameras watch the fruit go by, and air jets push it around. This is all happening in bulk, much faster than humans can even watch, as big conveyors pump a stream of mixed product through the machine and streams of sorted product come out.

    Robotic tomato pickers have been built by several groups, but so far the machines are too slow and the cost is too high.

    In practice, the way agricultural sorting works is that the good stuff is sold is fresh fruit, the not-so-good stuff goes off to make jellies, tomato paste, and such, and the rejected stuff becomes animal feed or fertilizer.

  17. Re:Goodbye Mexicans! by Mysteray · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah and don't forget the advertising agencies who advertise and the lawyers who sue and the government inspectors to inspect and the ....

    Dude, the only person producing new wealth in your scenario is the the farmer and look at all the overhead you're expecting him to bear.

  18. Re:and whats the fail out when very few have healt by complete+loony · · Score: 2

    Capitalism doesn't work when we live off credit. When we mainly extend credit to those speculating on the prices of existing assets.

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  19. The fallacy of the three sector hypothesis by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 2

    Related to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-sector_hypothesis

    People went from 90% agriculture workers to about 2% agriculutre workers over the past two hundred years in the USA. Of the current agriculutral production, 75% of the effort goes to meat production which is not strictly needed and in general is harming people's health, and otherwise people eat too much of the wrong foods and are obese (see Dr. Fuhrman). Why is agriculture still not using 90% of the labor force? Automation and limited demand.

    Compulsory schools were created to keep kids off the street and train them to be soldiers and factory workers. Working hours went down from 12 hours 6 days a week to 8 hours five days a week, and only for adults. Child labor was outlawed. So, much of the working force was freed.

    In 1950, about 30% of the workforce was in manufacturing. Now it is more like aroung 12%, and the same amount of stuff is still produced (plus some is imported from China). Why? Increasing automation, better design, and limited demand. Many people are drowning in junk that clutters their homes and lives.

    Granted, in the USA, women have gone into the work force and there are other confounding factors.

    What happens when services go the same way through robotics and other automation, better design, voluntary social networks, and limited demand?
    http://knol.google.com/k/paul-d-fernhout/beyond-a-jobless-recovery/

    Consider also that unlike food and some basic goods, most services are optional.

    It turns out even most medical care is probably harmful and unneccesary, compared to just eating better and getting adequate vitamin D.
    http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/treatment.shtml
    http://www.alternativeratreatments.com/eat-to-live.html

    The entire economy is poised to implode.
    http://idlenest.freehostia.com/mirror/www.whywork.org/rethinking/whywork/abolition.html
    http://idlenest.freehostia.com/mirror/www.whywork.org/index.html
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc&feature=channel
    http://www.marshallbrain.com/manna1.htm

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  20. Hunter/gatherer parallels by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 2

    I think it will be good overall (barring things like irony killing us all)
        http://www.pdfernhout.net/recognizing-irony-is-a-key-to-transcending-militarism.html
    since it it a return to hunter/gatherer ideology with high techology, where hunter/gathers spent much of their time just rasining kids, socializing, and doing hobbies or contemplating nature and the infinite.
        http://www.primitivism.com/original-affluent.htm

    The robots are like the botanical plants that people used to pick the fruits from.

    It is a form of natural capitalism in the sense that the planet and its infrastructure is essentially owned by all the people, who then get dividends as citizen capitalists. :-)
    http://www.pdfernhout.net/post-scarcity-princeton.html#A_history_lesson_pre-scarcity_times_Eden_then_scarcity_times_Dickens_then_post-scarcity_times_real_soon_now

    You can have a basic income as suggested in Manna to schedule and distribute what the robots make through a sort of market demand force.
    http://www.marshallbrain.com/manna1.htm

    Or, if things get so abundant, like if 3D printing gets really good, you get perhaps Star Trek where people have moved beyond money, and you get mostly a gift economy and various sorts of ad-hoc planning and organizing like, say, Debian GNU/Linux.
    "Study Reports On Debian Governance, Social Organization"
    http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/04/14/1349202

    Typical hunter/gatherers had a gift economy and essentially collective land "ownership".
    "Gift Economy: Refuting the Market Logic"
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy4hFVcl6Vo

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  21. Re:Goodbye Mexicans! by Oriumpor · · Score: 2

    It's a painful thing for an overly Nationalistic American to do, but if you look at the history of the Pajaro valley you would see that prior to WWII the Japanese businesses funded the Berry Farming that created such a huge demand for Strawberries. My family's ranch was funded primarily by Japanese investors before FDR stole their property and imprisoned their families.

  22. Re:Lot of track? by AJWM · · Score: 2

    I just hope you're not involved with writing any software that I use.

    Do you have a problem reaching for and grasping something when you're laying down vs standing up? The bot isn't depending on gravity for anything, it's movements are relative to the camera. Only an idiot would give the arm and the camera separate coordinate systems, and only a bigger idiot would do that and not take the coordinate transforms into account. Although I suppose there are a lot of those around, given the state of software these days.

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