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Facebook Rolls Out Redesigned Profile Pages

alphadogg writes "The [Facebook Profile] changes include a clustered listing of biographical information under the user name at the top of the page, including such details as the person's job, hometown, relationship status, where they went to college, what languages they speak and birthdate. Beneath that will appear a set of the five most recent photos that a user allows to be posted at their profile page." The changes unsurprisingly are being met with mixed opinions ranging from rage to anger.

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  1. The latest five pictures... by Chrisq · · Score: 3, Funny

    The latest five pictures will be totally useless for me because a lot of my friends tag a picture with my name if they think I would interested in it rather than because its a picture of me!

    1. Re:The latest five pictures... by Hollinger · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It'll be useless to *you,* but it might get you (or your friends) to click over to the person that uploaded it. I'm sure a lot of thought went into trying to keep you on the site as long as possible.

    2. Re:The latest five pictures... by Pojut · · Score: 3, Insightful

      My problem with it is they don't give you any easy way to control exactly which pictures appear on the "ribbon"...

    3. Re:The latest five pictures... by prostoalex · · Score: 2

      It's the most recent photos you were tagged in.

  2. Re:slow news day? by Wonko+the+Sane · · Score: 5, Funny

    Not really.

    They should also edit the last line to read, "The changes unsurprisingly are being met with mixed opinions ranging from rage to complete apathy."

  3. Hooray by Haedrian · · Score: 5, Informative

    More predictable semantic information which can be used in to collect more information about the users. Hooray!

    1. Re:Hooray by Haedrian · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Its not the fault of facebook, but it is an encouragement.

      Let me give you an example - assume that for example - /. decides that you can put a display picture.

      If the picture is in a hidden page (such as the profile one) - you not having one won't matter, because few people will see its missing)

      if this picture slot is in a prominant position - such as attached to your every post (like certain forums) - then there is more of an incentive to add one.

      Social Engineering at its finest.

    2. Re:Hooray by Pharmboy · · Score: 2

      So the fact that your friends volunteer more information is the fault of facebook?

      No, but changing the settings environment so that information you previously thought was viewable by friends only is now viewable by either 1)everyone or 2)friends of friends, is a problem, and over the course of the last 2 years, this is what has happened. People that had information that they thought was somewhat "private" are now broadcasting it to the world if they have not gone through the very convoluted privacy setup on Facebook. I have had to reprivatize some info more than once.

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  4. Die facebook, die by kraemate · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So now facebook is the new google, extremely minor changes are finding place on tech news sites.

    Is facebook really technology? From what i can figure out, its a place where people spend 700 billion minutes a month playing farville and mafia wars.

    I'd rather have all the facebook employees working on something significant, like i dunno, developing software for the space missions, or heck, even search engines. Search engines are awefully complicated - facebook is just a photo album with lots of cookies to track you.

    At what point do we realize that people wasting time on such sites is as big a danger as say, drugs?
    When's the war on facebook ?

    1. Re:Die facebook, die by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 2

      When's the war on facebook ?

      I think it's being disclosed on Wikileaks next week.

    2. Re:Die facebook, die by vlm · · Score: 4, Informative

      At what point do we realize that people wasting time on such sites is as big a danger as say, drugs?
      When's the war on facebook ?

      Obviously you do not watch infotainment TV shows. As farmville has eaten into their viewership, they've been running some might FUD-dy stories along the line of marital infidelity / online predators / Save the Children / general theme of you should all be scared and watch this TV show instead of looking at facebook. According to TV, crooks / creeps / freaks didn't exist until Facebook and if we stop using Facebook they'll magically disappear.

      Prime Time TV has also been out to get them with the usual FUD.

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    3. Re:Die facebook, die by truthsearch · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't think we want Facebook "engineers" redeployed anywhere else. It took 12 of them to write this new profile page. I'd prefer they spend their time on things I don't use.

    4. Re:Die facebook, die by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > Am I the only person here who totally ignores both Facebook and Wikileaks? Seems an obvious strategy for those who like to enjoy a "Life"(TM).

      Yes, you are the only person. Which is why you spend so much time on Slashdot, right?

    5. Re:Die facebook, die by DerekLyons · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Is facebook really technology? From what i can figure out, its a place where people spend 700 billion minutes a month playing farville and mafia wars.

      Yep, as predictable as the sun rising - "I'm a slashdotter and I don't use Facebook, so I'll diss it to show how cool and how willingly ignorant I am". Seriously, it never occured to you that even though you don't like Rasberry Vanilla Fudge flavor that other people might? News flash - the Universe doesn't revolve around you, never has, never will.
       

      I'd rather have all the facebook employees working on something significant, like i dunno, developing software for the space missions, or heck, even search engines. Search engines are awefully complicated - facebook is just a photo album with lots of cookies to track you.

      Just this morning (and I'm still on my first cup of coffee) on Facebook I have;

      • Seen some amazing photography by several photographers whose pages I follow.
      • Started arranging going out to dinner with some high school classmates when we're all in town for our 30th reunion this spring.
      • Discussed with my niece the value, or lack thereof, of internet 'awareness' memes (an anti child abuse campaign meme having gone viral on Facebook over the weekend).
      • Confirmed with one real life friend I'll be attending his Christmas party, and confirmed with another our plans for Christmas Eve.
      • Been informed by my local micro brewery that their holiday ale (whose kegging and bottling was delayed due to a storm caused power outage and damage to their machinery) will roll out this weekend.
      • Helped a fellow geocacher solve puzzle and another fellow geocacher find some materials he needs for remodeling his house.
      • And courtesy of a post by my sister about a toy she bought for her four year old took a nice trip down memory lane sharing our memories of that exact same toy with my mother, my sister, and my brothers.

      And actually, that's a pretty typical day on Facebook for me.
       

      At what point do we realize that people wasting time on such sites is as big a danger as say, drugs?
      When's the war on facebook ?

      Yes, it has security and privacy issue, anyone with sense knows that. But after a shedload of stories on Slashdot about Facebook, and many comments like yours, and many many comments like mine explaining how wrong you are, such ignorance as yours is pretty hard to understand. You may call staying connected with family, friends, etc... etc... 'wasting time', but a lot of people disagree with you. Given the number of tools developed to allow people to share and interact via the 'net (email, instant messaging, forums, blogs, social media...), I suspect you're in a distinct minority.

  5. way to be on the cutting edge by corerunner · · Score: 2, Insightful

    http://www.facebook.com/common/browser.php isn't compatible with Firefox 4, IE 9, or Chromium 6

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  6. Anger?? by zero.kalvin · · Score: 2

    "The changes unsurprisingly are being met with mixed opinions ranging from rage to anger" That's what they always say, a few days later, the cries dim out. Humans tend to resist change.

  7. Re:Opera by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    The link in the summary is broken, and points directly to Facebook's "Incompatible Browser" page.

  8. Let the ..... by realsilly · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... automatic security preference "accidental" changes begin.

    So many people just accept these upgrades without going back and checking their privacy settings again.

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    1. Re:Let the ..... by omnichad · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This time, they don't change the privacy - no new option added. You can't, for example, choose to disable showing the most recent 5 tagged pictures of you. No matter who your friends are or what prompts them to tag you in them.
       
      I don't use Facebook often at all, but I just think it's stupid to put my profile information in the control of other people (my friends).

    2. Re:Let the ..... by creativeHavoc · · Score: 2

      unless you don't let anyone view your tagged photos. in that case, none of those 5 pictures will show up on that page for anyone except you, as expected.

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  9. It's optional by beanyk · · Score: 2

    ... so far, at least. My profile is just the same as yesterday. Only when I clicked on a friend's profile did I see the change.

    There was a button I could click to follow suit, but I ignored it.

    1. Re:It's optional by Chameleon+Man · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's not optional, it's phased. Facebook always rolls out their changes with a phased approach, not changing all profiles at once.

      It is inevitable.

  10. Re:slow news day? by Dunbal · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yep - it's on the front page of CNN, too.

    Next we get to find out what Zuckerberg found between his teeth yesterday. Stay tuned!

    Fucking losers. Facebook is so 2009.

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  11. Re:slow news day? by Dunbal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well yeah, it turns out of you post anything worthwhile your hosts drop you, you get DDOSed, the US gov't wants to throw you in jail and Swedish women say you raped them.

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  12. You'll get over it. by Lilith's+Heart-shape · · Score: 2

    People got over the FARK.com redesign, and they got over Slashdot 2.0. They'll get over this as well, and forget to check their privacy settings.

    1. Re:You'll get over it. by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 3, Interesting

      and they got over Slashdot 2.0.

      did they?

    2. Re:You'll get over it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Depends on your definition of "getting over it." I "got over" digg's redesign, too. I removed my bookmark and replaced it with reddit. Haven't let the door hit me on the way out. There are certain discussions which don't expand correctly on Slashdot, and that pisses me off. Not enough to quit the site, mostly because I started reading it in '96.

    3. Re:You'll get over it. by stuntpope · · Score: 2

      I haven't.

    4. Re:You'll get over it. by slashtivus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I still read slashdot in classic mode. Even got an email from them asking for commentary. I keep trying the 2.0, but it just isn't as good as the classic system.

  13. so wait by digitalsushi · · Score: 2

    Didnt everyone hate 'the wall'? Just as much?

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    1. Re:so wait by MonsterTrimble · · Score: 3, Funny

      Actually, I hated The Wall - beyond 'Another Brick (pt 2)' I found it dry and tedious. I much prefer Dark Side of the Moon & Wish You Were Here.

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  14. Re:slow news day? by smitty777 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Justin? Is that you? How come you turned down my friend request?

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  15. Re:slow news day? by truthsearch · · Score: 5, Interesting

    60 Minutes even covered this last night. What blew my mind was the fact that they had 12 "engineers" working full time to build this new profile page. If the data and backend systems are logically designed then this redesign should be very easy. So either these "engineers" are low skilled or their systems are a mess.

  16. Re:What is Facebook? by vlm · · Score: 2

    Er.. what is Facebook actually??

    Farmville bootloader / OS. Also used for Mafiawars and a couple other games.

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  17. Re:slow news day? by somersault · · Score: 2

    Doesn't say how long they were working on it for. Plus, they didn't change it globally, it's an opt-in thing so a little more complex than just changing everyone's profile (though not by much).

    The fact that it's optional means that nobody should be whining here. Obviously they're fed up of people bitching about all the changes and have decided to give them the choice this time.

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  18. Browse friendships needs to be blockable. by Posting=!Working · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Browse friendships on the new profile is just downright creepy. I know it's all visible info, but I can't think of a single non-creepy reason anyone would want to click and see every interaction between two other people.

    If you were looking at the results for two people, and one of the people you were looking up walked up behind you, you'd try to hide it before they caught you. There really isn't a good explanation you could give them if they saw you doing it.

    It appears to me a tool designed exclusively for stalkers, is there any other reason it exists? I'm really at a loss to figure out why this wasn't rejected the second it was suggested and the person suggesting it isn't avoided like the plague at the office.

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  19. Re:Range? by u38cg · · Score: 2

    Here, I made this "whoosh" just for you.

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  20. Bad link, not incompatible browsers by penguinchris · · Score: 2

    An AC mentioned this already, that link is simply the page you're redirected to if you use an incompatible browser.

  21. I just love the "new" security features... by denzacar · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Particularly the "Question only you know the answer to".
    That has the range from "First grade teacher" through "Pet's name" all the way over to "Street you lived on when you were 8".

    Is anyone in Facebook HQ aware that about 90% of their users use it to communicate or get back in touch with the very group of people who would know those answers - BECAUSE THEY ANSWERED THE SAME QUESTION THE SAME WAY?!
    Hello! Your entire first grade class had the same teacher. Your friends know the name of your pets and the street you lived on. Your cousins sure as hell know the rest of the questions like mother's maiden name etc.

    Why not just give everyone the default code of 0000 or 12345? It's about the same level of security.

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    1. Re:I just love the "new" security features... by Eevee · · Score: 2

      Strangely enough, the name of my first grade teacher was "6F(x8~sD".

    2. Re:I just love the "new" security features... by Dexter+Herbivore · · Score: 3, Funny

      If my friends can remember the name of my first pet, then I'll be suitably impressed by how good a friend they are. If they can remember a friend's pet's name after 20 odd years, they're not a friend but a lifetime stalker.

    3. Re:I just love the "new" security features... by laughing_badger · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hello! Your entire first grade class had the same teacher. Your friends know the name of your pets and the street you lived on. Your cousins sure as hell know the rest of the questions like mother's maiden name etc.

      Why not just give everyone the default code of 0000 or 12345? It's about the same level of security.

      Explains why social sites are always down when I try to sign up - little Bobby Tables was in my class.

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  22. Re:slow news day? by Ihmhi · · Score: 2

    Wait, so, if I post something significant I will effectively have what amounts to an official government acknowledgment of the fact that I had sex with multiple sexy blonde Swedish women?

    On an entirely unrelated note, I happen to have here a classified document that was sent to me via registered mail...

  23. Re:I just wish Diaspora was finished by assertation · · Score: 2

    I stay in touch with the people in my life outside of FB.

    There are a few acquaintances that Facebook put me back in touch with that I would like to stay in touch with via a similar site. Not so many that I need a service to send them a note for me.

    As far as everyone else goes if they come with me great, if not no loss.

  24. Re:slow news day? by Ihmhi · · Score: 4, Funny

    To be fair, I doubt that the majority of the time was spent on actual coding. I imagine a lot of it was spent on things like UI design (positioning the graphics, buttons, etc.) and aesthetics.

    Judging from the result I can't help but wonder if FB just gave the team a year's supply of whiskey.

  25. Re:Chrome by icebraining · · Score: 2

    It's a problem with TFA's link, not Facebook.

  26. Re:slow news day? by clone52431 · · Score: 2

    The last line was met with mixed opinions ranging from pedantry to grammar naziism.

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  27. Re:slow news day? by truthsearch · · Score: 2

    It's a godawful jumble to be honest.

    Is there any part of Facebook that isn't? I've always found their UI and particularly their site navigation to be confusing.

  28. there was a meme many years ago by circletimessquare · · Score: 2

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-man-constantly-mentioning-he-doesnt-own-a-tel,429/

    the man who doesn't own a television and in pure narcissism tells this fact to anyone at the slightest chance

    i am the same sort of laughable curmudgeon when it comes to facebook: i don't have a page, and never will, and proudly announce the fact to people whenever the subject of facebook comes up. i am the fringe weirdo, and i know it. and regardless of my level of narcissism, i am apparently also turning out to be wise. people are feeding facebook so much detail about their lives they are doing nothing than feeding a beast which makes privacy in their lives impossible

    facebook is a future myspace/ friendster. give it a few years. simply as a matter of fact that facebook's business goals will make people more and more uncomfortable and more and more creeped out. yet facebook cannot back away from their business goals of exploiting and cashing in on the massive data stores about us that they are sitting on, because those server farms cost a heck of a lot to maintain. so as facebook rushes to fulfill the promise of their business plan, they will inevitably repulse and drive away their members

    cantankerous weirdos like me who don't have a facebook account will begin to look cool again, prescient even. i promise i won't loudly bleat "i told you so" in 2013 when the latest slashdot story is about the decline of facebook

    but here's the big thing: the phenomenon of social networking sites have a real world analogy: the hot club/ restaurant/ bar. take any metropolitan area, and you will have some nightlife hangouts that are THE place to be and be seen, some that are past their prime, and some that are up and coming. social networking sites are the online analogy of this continuous sociological process of rising and falling. after a certain amount of time as the "center of the world", a new dynamic takes places where a new "in" crowd begins to consider the hot hangout spot to be over the hill, declasse, tired, over. and they have a new little place where the "coolest of the cool" hang out. and then the exodus begins in earnest. soon the new place has lines out the door every night, the old place is empty. somehow everyone knows about the new place, and they all want to get in. the old place can't pay people to come. then a new "in" crowd rises... repeat ad nauseum. what's notable for those who would extend this analogy completely, is that there is subcultural rift lines. the internet is still young. maybe the future of social networking sites will fractionate according to those who identify themselves according to certain subcultural identifiers. well, that's true already to some extent

    now if i were REALLY smart i'd be busy maneuvering around the next feature set that will make the next social networking site the "got to have it" place to put up your profile. and ride that pile of money to its bitter end. well, there's probably already about a hundred thousand zuckerberg wannabes out there doing exactly that already. 99% of those wannabes absolutely suck, but in that remaining 1%, all i know is, one of them will actually succeed

    because facebook is jumping the shark, and the internet still needs an "it" social hangout spot. which site that will be... i wish i had that crystal ball

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  29. Re:slow news day? by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 2

    If the data and backend systems are logically designed then this redesign should be very easy. So either these "engineers" are low skilled or their systems are a mess.

    Even if its a mess - moving one link to another place is incredibly trivial - I can't imagine needing more than 2 people for a job like this, how they even managed to have 12 is absolutely beyond me. I work at a company where we deal with more complicated Data than Facebook, our backend is a bit of a mess, and we only have 5 programmers (one of which who acts as DBA, sometimes) to handle it all.

    Seriously - it didn't cross the minds of 12 engineers that everyone who uses facebook has hated every single one of the UI changes - and they still continue to do it?

    I think I could train a single monkey to do a better job than these guys. Simply because if I hand a monkey a computer, it'll take him a really long time to figure out how to publish any changes.

  30. Re:slow news day? by creativeHavoc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    someone knew what they were doing. I have never seen so many of my friends update their non-current data that was now brought to the forefront. It's almost like they had a problem, nailed out some requirements, and properly engineered a solution.

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  31. Re:slow news day? by ZorinLynx · · Score: 2

    Yeah, I'm not sure why this was national news. Surely there are more important things to cover than some website.

    It makes me wonder if someone got paid off for this exposure. Being mentioned in a national news story in a positive light is the best advertising there can be.

    Overall it disgusts me when there are so much more important things to talk about.

  32. Re:slow news day? by somersault · · Score: 4, Informative

    Same here.

    It's a bit like Windows 7. You know the thing you want is there, but you don't know where they've hidden it with the latest redesign. So you just type the name of what you want into the search bar, and it magically appears.

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  33. Re:slow news day? by truthsearch · · Score: 2

    I disagree. The infrastructure should already exist. It's just a new view on the same data. FB can't possibly re-engineer their infrastructure each time a new page is built. Or maybe they do and that's why they need so many programmers. Either way, something is very wrong over there.

  34. Re:slow news day? by sinclair44 · · Score: 2

    A lot of the performance stuff is "how can we do X without fetching too many cache keys?" and "how many cache keys is too much given we already have X Y and Z? Which one can we optimize?" The infrastructure for caching does exist, but the infrastructure for efficiently fetching and caching your brand-new feature does not. When you're writing a whole new profile page, you have the dual problems of "I have a whole lot of new features I have to build" and "we really really have to make sure this page is fast".

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  35. Next release by serano · · Score: 4, Funny

    I've heard that in the next release in addition to showing hometown and birthdate, they will also show last four digits of your social security number, mother's maiden name, favorite movie, and the name of your first pet.

  36. Re:slow news day? by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 2

    If you think a UI change is what spurs the growth - you are quite foolish.

    No, I think Facebook would be just as successful today with its original UI. They could have spent that engineering time actually building more interesting apps and tie ins to other websites, which would have had a more profound effect. No, instead, they moved the logout button 2 or 3 times.