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Venezuelan Gov't Seeks Internet Content Bill

Ah, none is more coward! writes "Several local and international news outlets report that the overwhelmingly pro-Chávez Venezuelan National Assembly is considering a reform of their Social Responsibility law to include Internet content. Besides regulations on mature content and mandatory airing of government messages, the existing bill includes broad prohibitions against 'destabilizing' and 'disquieting' content. The Assembly also has a proposal for a single national Internet access point, 'with a view to handling outgoing and incoming traffic in Venezuela.'"

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  1. The final step. by Requia · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And thus the last avenue of free speech in Venezuela dissapears.

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    1. Re:The final step. by Timenerd · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's coming in this country too.

    2. Re:The final step. by Requia · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm certainly not (really, the second they started taking state control of the local media this became only a matter of time), but maybe I can finally get the people who think that my anti Chavez attitude is somehow related to his economic policies to realize just how screwed up the Venezuelan government is.

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  2. Socialism never disappoints by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    No government that relies on keeping information from the people is going to last.

    1. Re:Socialism never disappoints by Requia · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It has nothing to do with socialism, it's a standard political power grab. What it has to do with is idiots like you who make it into an economic issue, thus distracting everybody from the real point.

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    2. Re:Socialism never disappoints by DesScorp · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It has nothing to do with socialism, it's a standard political power grab. What it has to do with is idiots like you who make it into an economic issue, thus distracting everybody from the real point.

      Socialism isn't just an economic philosophy. It's an all-encompassing political theory that de-emphasizes the individual and emphasizes the collective. The problem with socialism... demonstrated through the history of socialist governments... is that since we're not insects with a hive mind, individuals are going to rule that collective. And they've always been at the very least too nannying, and at worst, absolutely tyrannical. So this has everything to do with socialism, because the very philosophy is about a power grab... for the good of the people, of course.

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  3. not like other countries would do that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Such as censoring Wikileaks for being a "terrorist organization" and "subverting state power", say.

    No sir. No first would nation would ever do that.

    The chief difference is that people in USA continue to tell themselves they are "free", despite all evidence to contrary, despite people imprisoned and tortured for politics reasons.

    1. Re:not like other countries would do that by z-j-y · · Score: 3, Insightful

      liberals have become docile on slashdot. usually they are all over the first 50 post justifying dictators.

    2. Re:not like other countries would do that by Solandri · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Such as censoring Wikileaks for being a "terrorist organization" and "subverting state power", say.

      This is what I've been trying to say about the whole Wikileaks thing. Cause and effect is not a one-way street here. Wikileaks and its supports say they're doing it to help make government more transparent and root out corruption, and done properly it can do that. The problem is that many people seem to have this implicit assumption that exposing corruption automatically means it'll be fixed, and thus release of information guarantees the overall amount of corruption is lessened, and thus it's always beneficial to release information. But that's not the only possible outcome. Another possibility is that closed governments will see what Wikileaks is doing as validation of their closedness, and open governments will "see the error of their ways" and become more closed. In other words, what Wikileaks is doing can cause the opposite of what they're trying to accomplish.

      Release of secret documents needs to be done in a judicious and controlled manner. There has to be very little controversy that the documents released do in fact pertain to corruption (or alleged corruption). Most of the citizens have to agree that it's a good thing the documents were made public in order to generate the socio-political will to fix the corruption. If you fail to do that, like Wikileaks is doing by indiscriminately releasing almost the entirety of the State Dept. docs, all you've done is convinced governments that they need to work harder to keep their secrets, and given them the support of a large portion of their citizens in doing it.

  4. Nice moral equivalence by MikeRT · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In usa, you are told you have freedom, but practicing them requires money. You are only free as much as you have money.

    What you failed to mention is that it is actually reasonably within the reach of most Americans because the media they need for speech is available in ways it isn't in China or Venezuela. There are thousands of companies that will sell you print supplies without fear that they'll face "reeducation through labor" for selling to you. There are dozens of video sharing sites. $200 buys you a Flip or something similar for making your own basic videos.

    So, hopefully others will understand when I say "fuck you, you sniveling leftist brat."

  5. Re:and by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nice backtracking. In your original post you said that to reach the multitudes, you would need to have enough money to buy off the media corporations—not to buy the supplies necessary to run a poster campaign, which is far cheaper. You're changing your position and it's sleazy as hell. Go troll somewhere else.

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  6. weird how you can take any story ... by Punctuated_Equilibri · · Score: 2, Insightful

    and turn it into an opportunity to vent against the USA. How about discussing the Venezuela story on its own merits? Single internet access point for the whole country, controlled by the government, good idea or no?

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  7. Scandanavian countries are not socialist by voss · · Score: 1, Insightful

    They are social-democratic welfare states quite wealthy social democratic welfare states.
      Yes there is a difference between a social democratic system and a socialist one.

    Of course for the right saying your political enemies are wealthy social democrats who want you
    to be able to drive greener cars and eat more healthy food isnt quite as effective as calling them all marxist commies.