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Scientists Identify Head of France's King Henry IV

JThaddeus writes "The Associated Press reports that 'After nine months of tests, researchers in France have identified the head of France's King Henry IV.' Henry was assassinated in 1610, and his head has been missing. His body was dug up and decapitated during the French Revolution. Researchers found features similar to those in royal portraits, and radiocarbon dating confirms that the head dates to the 17th Century. Interestingly, 'Perfumers on the team used their professionally trained noses to identify specific embalming substances in the mouth used to hide nasty odors.' The results have been published an online medical journal."

64 comments

  1. Idle by Psychotria · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Look. Idle is supposed to be STUPID STUFF that's a waste of time. This isn't idle; it's interesting. I swear that slashdot is getting more and more idiotic every time I log in

    1. Re:Idle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Then for the love of god stop logging in!

    2. Re:Idle by Psychotria · · Score: 0

      Good point. I never thought of that.

    3. Re:Idle by antifoidulus · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      The admins of the site have explained that essentially the idle section was mandated by their corporate overlords. By keeping the idle section as close to a "real" story as possible without totally violating the "spirit" of idle they are in essence maximizing the # of "real" stories on slashdot.

    4. Re:Idle by Jay+L · · Score: 1

      Disagree! Everyone already knew that the King Henry IV was the head of France. No identification needed. -1, Obvious.

    5. Re:Idle by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      Well other than the fact there is no upward limit on the number of stories that can be posted to Slashdot. They really don't need to maximize the value of idle stories.

      If they really felt the way you claim about idle they could post whatever junk to it and post good stories in other sections and then we could all just filter out idle in our user prefs. Right now I don't because often idle does have stories like this one I find interesting.

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    6. Re:Idle by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Click on your title bar, delete idle. hit enter. This will then cause it to be opened as a normal story with the working controls.

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    7. Re:Idle by rourin_bushi · · Score: 1

      Single best piece of advice I've read here in quite some time. Thanks, I hadn't yet figured out that it was just idle that had the screwed up controls.

  2. I hadn't known about Henry IV by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 4, Funny

    He sounds like a great monarch, truly ahead of his time.

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    1. Re:I hadn't known about Henry IV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Alas, If only he had quited with the whole "cake" business while he was still ahead.

    2. Re:I hadn't known about Henry IV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I disagree. Seems to me like he just couldn't cut it for the French people.

    3. Re:I hadn't known about Henry IV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But the French people could cut the big cheese.

    4. Re:I hadn't known about Henry IV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, He was so stupid that he could not find his head with both his hands.

    5. Re:I hadn't known about Henry IV by Arancaytar · · Score: 1

      ... that joke is a capital offense.

    6. Re:I hadn't known about Henry IV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      some might say, he was not all there, had lost his head....

    7. Re:I hadn't known about Henry IV by one+cup+of+coffee · · Score: 1

      You might say these scientist really know how to get a head in life.

    8. Re:I hadn't known about Henry IV by splerdu · · Score: 1

      Indeed!
      He was much loved by the people, and his reforms were cutting-edge.

    9. Re:I hadn't known about Henry IV by amliebsch · · Score: 1

      Back then, the cake really *was* a lie.

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    10. Re:I hadn't known about Henry IV by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      I keep trying to get head, never seems to be available though...ok, my puns suck, I know.

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    11. Re:I hadn't known about Henry IV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've always heard he was a bit headstrong.

    12. Re:I hadn't known about Henry IV by GregC63 · · Score: 1

      He sounds like a great monarch, truly ahead of his time.

      That is VERY funny! Chuckled out loud when I read it! Well played Daniel!

  3. Re:Does rest in peace mean anything to scientists by lordholm · · Score: 5, Informative

    No scientists dug him up. If you RTFA, you will see that he was dug up during the French revolution and posthumously decapitated. The head was then stolen and passed along in "private collections".

    The scientists found the head, confirmed that it was the dead kings missing head and, there will be a national burial of the head in a cathedral.

    So, essentially, the scientists did exactly the opposite of what you are complaining about.

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  4. which part by rossdee · · Score: 2

    Henry IV part I or Henry IV part II

    1. Re:which part by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, if you cut the head of Henry IV you get two parts.

    2. Re:which part by forkazoo · · Score: 1

      This is part II. The summary mentions that his body was dug up earlier, so it was part I.

    3. Re:which part by jewens · · Score: 1

      If you put them back together do you end up with Henry VIII?

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    4. Re:which part by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Really? Henry I and Henry V, I assume?

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  5. Re:Does rest in peace mean anything to scientists by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 2

    I don't want to be dug up by scientists writing papers that nobody reads.

    Anonymous cowards are dug up and put on public display quite often. Do something noteworthy enough that you get a fancy tomb and you might avoid this fate. Not that the rest of us will be holding our breaths for you to accomplish anything ... we'll just be standing over at the edge of the graveyard with shovels. "Specimen of early 21st-century Homo semi-sapiens trollicus patheticus. Name unknown."

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  6. Re:Does rest in peace mean anything to scientists by fbartho · · Score: 1

    You've got options: 1. Get yourself cremated (or dumped into a volcano) 2. Make sure your body is dumped in a pig farm 3. Make sure your body is diced into pieces, and then dumped at sea 4a. Don't do anything noteworthy (preferably with the above) 4b. Do something so noteworthy that you are beloved. State that you must not be embalmed, make sure they plant some real plants above your grave, and make sure there's access for rainwater and natural light in the shrine that would be your tomb. This is a tricky balancing act as you need to be naturally exposed enough to decompose, but protected enough that your fanatic fans won't disinter you for totems (like they did for saints).

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  7. There's a headline for you. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    French Kind identified by halitosis news at 11!

  8. Perfumers on the team ... by perpenso · · Score: 1

    Perfumers on the team used their professionally trained noses to identify specific embalming substances in the mouth used to hide nasty odors.

    I bet the brochures for "perfumers school" does not mention that particular specialty.

  9. Next... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...Diego Garcia.

    1. Re:Next... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia! ...better yet, bring me the plate of linguini alfredo. :-9

  10. Perfumers? by adenied · · Score: 1

    Can you imagine the perfumer...

    [Perfumer going about his business mixing civet urine and various fatty acids] Ah that smells lovely!

    [Phone rings]

    Scientist: Hi! We need your nose for some important historical work.

    Perfumer: Right-o!

    Scientist: So you know this guy Henry IV? Head chopped off. Lost for ages?

    Perfumer to self: Oh crap.. is this going where I think it's going? I read that Süskind novel..

    Scientist: Yeah well, we need you to sniff this skull we found!

    Perfumer: Jerry... is that you? It's a bit early for April fools.

    Scientist: No really! This is important! You can help us solve a huge mystery.

    Perfumer: Well... OK [to self: pretty sure this is a set up..]

    [Two weeks later]

    Perfumer: 30 years in the business, dozens of successful fragrances... and here I am sniffing a skull. Oh! Myrrh!

  11. If he had a shit, it would be smelly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In all honesty, I would have to say that King Henry's shit would stink, but.. you all probably all knew this.

  12. Looks like... by JockTroll · · Score: 1

    ... Somebody got ahead of him.

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  13. Thank God by peaceful_bill · · Score: 1

    Jesus, I wish I was in the room.

    Scientist 1: SIR! We've found it!
    Scientist 2: long pause..."the head"....?

  14. I think they use googles Basic filter by Shivetya · · Score: 1

    http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/12/17/0040244/Reading-Level-Filter-Added-To-Google-Search

    It has been active on Slashdot for a long time, too bad we never knew it was marketable.

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  15. Show us your heads! by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

    This reminds me of the Molly Maguires ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molly_Maguires ) , disgruntled Irish coal miners in Pennsylvania. They lopped off peoples' heads. I learned this story in high school in US history. Sometimes the severed heads were just dropped somewhere, and ended up in funeral parlors, who placed them in the window with a note, asking, "Do you know whose head this is?"

    At any rate, my history teacher was at a funeral there, and asked the director about the story. He answered, "Sure, it's true, and we still have some of the unclaimed heads in the basement. Do you want to see them?"

    She declined.

    When a school friend heard of this story, he suggested that we drive his parents' big ole black Cadillac out there, and knock on the door, and shout, "Show us your heads!"

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    1. Re:Show us your heads! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When a school friend heard of this story, he suggested that we drive his parents' big ole black Cadillac out there, and knock on the door, and shout, "Show us your heads!"

      "Fry, remember what I told you about always ending your stories a sentence earlier?"

  16. No DNA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wish the article had been more clear on why no DNA match could be made. Haven't we done DNA matches on much older samples?

    1. Re:No DNA? by Mushdot · · Score: 2

      A BBC article mentions that any DNA sample would be contaminated.

  17. Good job by grub · · Score: 2


    I'm sure this great news will bring closure to his family.
    Now they can close this dark chapter of their lives and move on.

    hm.

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  18. Re:Does rest in peace mean anything to scientists by Sloppy · · Score: 1

    I don't want to be dug up by scientists writing papers that nobody reads.

    If you don't read the paper, then you won't know they dug you up.

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  19. Oh by Ramirozz · · Score: 1

    I will never eat Burger King again

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    1. Re:Oh by nschubach · · Score: 1

      With a head the size of the Burger King, you could feed millions.

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  20. so... by circletimessquare · · Score: 1

    you're unhappy because idle is interesting

    slashdot is idiotic, because idle is NOT idiotic

    and yes, i agree: i think the concept of being "idiotic" figures heavily in the formation of your opinion

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  21. I woke up this morning... by sjfoland · · Score: 1

    and my head was missing again. It's detachable.

  22. Re:Does rest in peace mean anything to scientists by morari · · Score: 1

    Why not? Are you going to be around to give a shit when it happens?

    I didn't think so.

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  23. That's insane! by BobMcD · · Score: 1

    So these Frenchies, during the 'frenzy of the Revolution' dug up a king who had been dead a hundred years, lopped off his head, and stole it?

    For the love of god, WHY?

    1. Re:That's insane! by charlesj68 · · Score: 1

      People do stupid things. Groups of people do *really* stupid things.

  24. Re:Does rest in peace mean anything to scientists by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    4b. Do something so noteworthy that you are beloved. State that you must not be embalmed

    Lenin would tell you it doesn't work so well.

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  25. Link to the BMJ paper by Syberz · · Score: 2

    Here's a link to the paper in the British Medical Journal, complete with pictures!

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    1. Re:Link to the BMJ paper by rankgatente1979 · · Score: 1

      Henry IV part I or Henry IV part II http://fashion-news.viviti.com/

  26. Perfumers on the team, concerning nasty odors. by purplemecha · · Score: 1

    'Perfumers on the team used their professionally trained noses to identify specific embalming substances in the mouth used to hide nasty odors.'

    400 years of hiding nasty odors, where can I get this deodorant?

  27. Dirty jobs... by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    > 'Perfumers on the team used their professionally trained noses to identify specific embalming substances in the mouth used to hide nasty odors.'

    Worst. Job. Ever.

    Someone should send that in to Mike Rowe....

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  28. Re:Does rest in peace mean anything to scientists by SnarfQuest · · Score: 1

    But what about the poor people who are losing the use of this head? Shouldn't they be offered a replacement of equal worth?

    What do you do with a mumified head anyway? Open pop bottles? Ash tray? Candle holder? How far does "hey, wanna see a head" go anyway?

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  29. Well, I suppose... by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1

    We'll be seeing him on Futurama now?

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  30. Let me guess... by wallsg · · Score: 1

    It was in the Head Museum between Charles de Gaulle and Leonard Nimoy?

  31. Wrong.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not his head which has been missing, it's the rest of his body. It was exhumed and scattered in the French revolution, and someone saved the head. Poster did not read TFA!

  32. True! Not many in the 17th century had a head. by nikkipolya · · Score: 1

    After nine months of tests, researchers in France have lost their head and they went .... "Gee... Henry was assassinated in 1610, and his head has been missing. We have a head here that dates back to the 17th century. How many people in the 17th century had a head? I guess not many. The portraits show that King Henry 1V indeed had a head. So this must be his head." To put the last nail in the coffin... we will ask one of the 'Perfumers' on the team to take a sniff and if it stinks it must be King Henry IV.

    And it gets published in a medical journal!