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A Guitar Robot That Can Really Shred

botPatrol writes "As reported today by Create Digital Music and the Wired blog, PAM (Polytangent Automatic (multi-)Monochord) is a robot who has discovered a love for vintage Metallica riffs, and can churn them out non-stop at superhuman speeds without ever requiring anger management therapy or treatment for drug abuse." (Read more, below.) "Her younger sister MARIE, a road-ready robotic ensemble of wind and string instruments, promises to be even more of a musical badass. STEIM (STudio for Electro Instrumental Music), a leading international research center for the development of new musical instruments, will play host to MARIE this spring, and has posted a story on the revolutionary nature of this new musical robot. PAM and MARIE creators Expressive Machines Musical Instruments (EMMI) are calling on metal- and tech-heads alike to push their Kickstarter fund raising campaign over the top in its final few days, to fund the MARIE prototype and "help thwart the imminent robot vs. human wars by demonstrating how fun, cool, and sonically interesting it can be when humans and robots combine their powers for good.""

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  1. And... by TheL0ser · · Score: 5, Funny

    Lawsuit from Metallica coming in 3...2...1...

    1. Re:And... by pushing-robot · · Score: 3, Funny

      Robot... BAD!

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    2. Re:And... by EdIII · · Score: 2

      Robot... is bad. I watched the video here ... and... it blows. Seriously. It fucking blows.

      Sounded nothing like Metallica to me, and it did not even sound like a person playing metal. I listened for a full minute and it just became painful to listen to. If that robot is attempting to play a guitar and reproduce something that a human made, sorry, it failed.

      Is it just me? Are there musicians out there that can tell me it was making some kind of music? Some sort of artistic industrial sound that I am just not appreciating?

  2. The soul of the machine proves.... by GaryOlson · · Score: 4, Funny

    ....Metallica's music was always rather repetitive and robotic.
    Show me a robot which can play classical violin without becoming arrogant and whiny; that would be an achievement.

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    1. Re:The soul of the machine proves.... by pejyel · · Score: 2

      Show me a robot which can play classical violin without becoming arrogant and whiny; that would be an achievement.

      Here you go, done already 3 years ago.
      Toyota violin-playing robot, 2007
      Does that prove that classical music authors were rather repetitive and robotic?

  3. Superhuman speed? by Zedrick · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The videos doesn't show any superhuman speed. I (a half-decent guitarist) can play metallica songs faster, and a lot better/cleaner (the robot doesn't seem to be able to mute the stings for example).

    Wake me up when the build a robot that can compete with Yngwie Malmsteen.

    1. Re:Superhuman speed? by mugnyte · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Even worse - it's missing more than half the sound qualities of true guitar playing:
        string thickness
        string/fret choice for note
        string bends
        finger slide noises
        pluck style (pick, hammer-on, pull-off, etc)
        pluck position on string
        muting / hf filter
        high-order harmonic generation / lf filter
        'whammy' bar
        string-to-string interaction
        pickup choice, switching
        pedalboard activity

      Synth guitar emulations can guess on a lot of these and inject sound changes, but really, nothing compares to a well-skilled guitarist playing a purposefully created good solo.

  4. Well by Anrego · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This thing sounds more synthetic than a lot of synthesizers.

    Hitting the notes is only part of the guitar playing equation. Technique is just as important. Even implementing basic string muting would make a huge difference here.

    Still cool though :)

    1. Re:Well by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 2

      Going to google this, but - 'wha?'

      Your parent is referring to "palm muting," which gives metal chords that distinctive "crunching" or "chugging" sound. It's done by resting the palm of the picking hand over the strings right where the bridge is(so that the strings resonate some instead of being totally muted dead). It may also be used for soloing, good examples being solos in which the palm pressure is gradually released so that the effect is of the solo fading seamlessly from staccato to legato.

      I really don't know why the robot cannot palm-mute, it wouldn't have been that difficult to add a palm-muting mechanism.

      /metalhead. GG Allin lives!

  5. Re:Good target for beer bottles. by music_robot_groupie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The point isn't to replace human performers. Look into this more and you'll find that the robots sometimes perform/interact with human musicians and dancers. The point is to explore new territory. Robots do things humans can't and vice versa. BTW, if you aren't for geek joy, why are you commenting on Slashdot?

  6. Re:almost there by itsenrique · · Score: 2

    Bender: "With my mighty robot powers, I can get sick of things much quicker than you humans."

  7. Not news by submain · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is not news. Pat Metheny has been doing this for the last two years, except with a full band of robots. I have been to his concert and I can attest it works very well. Here is an example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsYEOUKS4Yk&feature=related

  8. Captured By Robots does this by NixieBunny · · Score: 2

    It's a band comprised of one guy and several robots, started because he tired of the shortcomings of human bandmates. However, the robots give him just as much (if not more) trouble.

    He has a guitarist that has two necks on his guitar, one for bass and one for lead. Here they are.

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  9. point of making robots is not to make humanoids by yvanthegreat · · Score: 2
    I think some people are missing the point here.

    Robot instruments are not to replace humans, but to provide an alternative approach to music. Sure, people can do lots of stuff robots won't be able to do in the near future, but robots are also capable of doing things people would find impossible. You can make a robot react to movement sensors, light, touchpads etc. It can use information from databases or the internet. Let me see a human who can do that in real time.

    Humans use a technique to play an instrument that has been perfected over hundreds of years. With robots, we first have to develop the robot. Once that is done, we can try all possible options to make interesting music with it. But this includes a learning curve. It's not very fair to compare the tried and tested technique of humans with robotic instruments at this point.

    As for the fact that some people think it hurts their ears: there's is more music in the world than the pop-rock-jazz-blues stuff we hear on the radio. Not that I have anything against it, but if one is serious about new ways of making music, why stick to the 1000 year old idea of using chords? And while it makes sense that humans like steady beats to play together, why not try a 3th degree math function as the rhythmical basis of your piece if you have robots to perform it, and explore from there? No, it won't sound like pop music, but that doesn't make it less interesting. Some musicians, and not the least among them, were trying to do that even a hundred years ago. I think they would have been delighted to have a musical robot to try out their ideas.

    No, robots will probably never be able to play some kinds of 'humanoid' music with the same feel. But if that would be the goal of making robots, we would better stop making them. People make robots to explore new possibilities. Ok, there is the sony project to make a humanoid robots, and I guess that kind of stuff will always be there. It appeals to many people's imagination. And the less people know about technology, the more they are fascinated by this kind of robot. But the real challenge lies with exploring new ways of doing things. This goes for scientific robots as well as musical ones.