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Reverse Engineering Doctor Who Into Color

Lanxon writes "In 1967, the BBC set about junking its Doctor Who archive: a moment sci-fi fans wish they could travel back in time to prevent. There are 108 vintage episodes missing, but since 1978 a number have been rediscovered as 16mm black-and-white films. The BBC shot many of these series in color, but made monochrome copies for countries such as Australia, where many TV companies were still broadcasting in greyscale. The reels had sat in archives since. Now, the Doctor Who Restoration Team, an independent group contracted by the BBC, is using a new technique to regenerate The Doctor in color."

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  1. color by slash.dt · · Score: 5, Funny
    The BBC shot many of these series in color

    Since this is the BBC, they shot *none* of them in color but many of them in *colour*....

    1. Re:color by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well, there are more English speakers in the USA than in England... So? We Win!

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    2. Re:color by mcgrew · · Score: 3, Informative

      And given that the rest of you guys can't settle on a particular dialect, I think it's a bit arrogant to suggest that our version isn't the dominant dialect

      We can't settle on a particular dialect here, either. I can barely understand someone from the NE seaboard; they seem incapable of pronouncing the letter R unless it starts a word. "Da dyam dwag is unda da cah!"

      Folks in the south have too many Rs. "Warsh thayut thar winder!"

      Then there's jive, ebonics, tex-mex, board-room, 133t5p33k, txt, and those are ones I can think of off the top of my head.

  2. And now for the nerdery. by thechao · · Score: 5, Informative

    So the article was devoid of anything of particular interest other than some jargon. The jargon, on the other hand, led to fascinating little technique about reconstructing the color of the grayscale image from "chroma dots". The actual method was discovered by a BBC engineer, and you can read more about it here: colour-recovery.wikispaces.com.

    1. Re:And now for the nerdery. by e9th · · Score: 5, Informative

      Complementing TFA is the restoration team's FAQ, which covers some of the non-technical details involved.

    2. Re:And now for the nerdery. by KingAlanI · · Score: 4, Informative

      http://www.iwillvoice.com/faqpage.html#q3.6
      Question 3.6 from that FAQ seems to be that which specifically refers to this issue.

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    3. Re:And now for the nerdery. by dugeen · · Score: 5, Interesting

      What you won't find in the FAQ is a list of all the changes the 'Restoration' Team have made to the stories - not only have they painted out boom shadows, camera reflections etc, but they've also messed up these changes on numerous occasions, resulting in missing sound effects, actors being left out of credits, credit backgrounds being the wrong colour, and everyone in Black Orchid looking like they're wearing bright red lipstick. But you can find a list here: http://tinypaste.com/c5441e

  3. Re:Rev the wrong thing by tuffy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Color or black and white, those old episodes are damn unwatchable.

    108 of them are, at least.

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  4. There's Good News and Bad News... by Lev13than · · Score: 4, Funny

    The good news is that they've figured out how to restore colour to the B&W negatives. The bad news is that it requires Kodachrome processing...

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    1. Re:There's Good News and Bad News... by Lev13than · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, the process by which they're recovering the colour data is very interesting:
      http://www.insell.co.uk/colourisation/Recovery_of_Colour_Information_0-2.htm

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    2. Re:There's Good News and Bad News... by NoMaster · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No, but what if someone convinced the BBC to knock off 6 more copies, then sealed them up in a wall so they could be picked up later and sold to collectors?

      Yeah, sure, they'd have "This is a fake" scrawled all over them, but since a copy by the original producer can't really be a fake...

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  5. Re:Rev the wrong thing by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 3

    To be honest, I have not been able to really get into old Doctor Who at all. I've tried watching City of Death (I think that was it) multiple times, as I heard it was one of the better Fourth Doctor adventures, but when I watch it, the acting is too poor to really be able to enjoy it. I really want to experience the history of the series, as I love the revival to death. I guess it's just not for me. :/

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  6. Re:technique by camperslo · · Score: 5, Informative

    It almost is reverse engineering. The chroma subcarrier in a video signal has a center frequency picked to allow the sidebands to fall between those of the main lumanance (black and white) video. The spectrum of those extends out from the main visual carrier frequency (or up from D.C. for the baseband signal) at multiple of the horizontal scan rate. The goal was to add color broadcast information to an existing greyscale system while introducing a minimal amount of interference. Here people are figuring out what is going on from the visual interference.

    The added signal amplitude represents the amount of color added/subtracted from the greyscale white, and the phase represents the hue. The phase of the signal is compared with a short burst (a minimum of eight cycles) sent just after the horizontal sync pulse prior to the start of video on each scan line. PAL, as used by the BBC, is very similar to NTSC, except the scan rates differ, the phase of the reference signal is inverted on every other line to help cancel out the effect of small phase errors on tint.

    Basically, those trying to recover color from the back and white films of on-air video have to use a comb filter to pick off the frequency (precisely related to the inverse of the spacing) of the resulting dots that are there from the color signal. The position of the dots from left to right carries the phase information. Considering that the dot pattern is probably quite weak, the resulting color would be noisy. Depending on the filtering used, the bandwidth (detail) may also suffer. But it is still a good starting point to know what the colors were.

    The dots aren't on/off like pixels. It's actually a sinusoidal intensity variation. I recall some older Zenith B&W sets had particularly good detail (and maybe some video peaking - enhancement) making it easy to see which programs were broadcast in color, and what parts of the picture were deeply saturated. In addition to a notch in the video response at 4.5 MHz to filter out patterns from the sound, some sets rolled-off or notched centered at 3.58 MHz (3.579545 actually) video response to reduce the interference. Better later sets (and color generally) used "comb" filters to separate the interleaved spectral components without those loss of detail seen with more primitive methods. Failure to filter color signals could cause wild colors/patterns on things like striped neck-ties when a shot zoomed in/out.

    It's pleasing to see that there are still a few around that understand the old analog technology well enough to realize there were visual color cues remaining. Even those that understand the electronics well often don't associate a particular visual characteristic with the responsible signal attributes.

    Although partial signal recovery is easy to envision with analog electronics, something along the lines of a GIMP/Photoshop plugin could work as well. Some might think of it as being similar to watermark detection.

  7. Re:Rev the wrong thing by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 4, Informative

    You might consult the Doctor who ratings guide. Look under "Televised Adventures".
    Many people like Pyramids of Mars, and the Talons of Weng Chiang, though the latter isn't particularly culturally sensitive. Genesis of the Daleks is another keeper.

    Personally, I started with The Power of Kroll.

  8. Re:Rev the wrong thing by Sulphur · · Score: 4, Funny

    When they started rerunning the old episodes in Australia a few years back I really enjoyed them. The acting wasn't real good, the fight scenes (fist fights etc) were so bad they were funny, and the strings holding up the dalek's spaceship were visible and it rocked side to side, but I still really enjoyed them.

    They had not mastered String Theory at the time.

  9. Re:Rev the wrong thing by heironymous · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Many people like Pyramids of Mars, and the Talons of Weng Chiang, though the latter isn't particularly culturally sensitive.

    I agree, but there's a wonderful moment when Tom Baker exclaims something like, "Wait a minute, you're Chinese," as if that visually obvious fact had eluded him up to that point. Made quite an impression on my young mind, that an alien -- even a super intelligent one -- would be less capable of seeing our trivial differences. To be truly unprejudiced, we must see through better eyes.

  10. Re:colour by Samurai+Tony · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think the clue is in the name, you are speaking English not American.

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  11. Facts by BigBadBus · · Score: 4, Informative
    The article is a bit dubious on facts. While it is true that the videotapes of the series were being wiped in the 1960s, the film telerecordings/kinescopes were not being junked until 1972, and went on for about 6 years. Also, Steve Roberts is not 35! I knew him for a while; I'm currently 39 and he is at least a few years older than me!

    The politics behind the Chroma Dot story is intriguing and in some places unpleasant. The instigator of the team was James Insell, and a method was created to perform the chroma dot extraction by a man named Richard Russell. Insell became a bit proprietorial over it all, and he and Russell parted ways, and now Russell it doing it alone. The original Colour extraction blog is here but they don't seem to have made any huge advances since Russell left. There is some more info, plus a link to Russell's own work (including software download) on my own Dr.Who webpage here

  12. Re:technique by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My mom told me once she was watching a black and white TV with her family, and someone walked on the screen with green hair. Everyone watching the TV instantly started laughing because the guy had green hair. I don't entirely understand your post, but it does verify that my mom was not crazy, and average people watching in those days could distinguish even if they didn't know what was going on.

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  13. Re:Why couldn't they have lost the right ones? by Spacelem · · Score: 3, Informative

    I did enjoy some of the Colin Baker episodes. Seriously, the guy did an amazing job considering the crap they were putting it through, and it's the producer John Nathan-Turner who would have been better lost, as he seemed determined to make the series die a slow death. Being forced to retake scenes requiring strong emotions multiple times just because "that prop in the background still isn't quite right" must have been soul destroying for the actors.

    The good news is that Colin Baker is still doing Doctor Who via the Big Finish Productions, where he is given good scripts and is well liked among fans. Nicola Bryant seems to have settled into the role well too, and no longer sounds like she's about to burst into tears after every sentence.