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Swedish Firm Proposes City Buildings On Rails

Lanxon writes "A Swedish architecture firm that came up with a plan to roll buildings through a city on rails has won third prize in a competition to develop the Norwegian city of Åndalsnes. The company, Jagnafalt Milton, suggested that existing and new railroads could be built to provide the base for buildings that could be positioned differently depending on the seasons and on the weather. It proposed designs for rail-mounted single- and double-berth cabins, along with a two-story suite, reports Wired."

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  1. Like birds by devxo · · Score: 3, Funny

    This also means that cities could just move south when the winter comes. It's not like some roadblock is going to do much when a whole city rolls in.

    1. Re:Like birds by gclef · · Score: 4, Funny

      I feel sorry for the mailmen in that town. (Wait, wasn't there a building here yesterday?)

    2. Re:Like birds by oodaloop · · Score: 2

      Humor aside, it's not that big a problem. You could just use a PO Box system. Mail gets puts in the same box everyday at a local post office, and the owners go to get it. Or simply number buildings per track. Address might read "Reading line, bldg 42" with that number clearly printed on the outside. In the US, mail routinely gets delivered to houses whose addresses include directions, like "go about 4 miles after the paved road ends and turn left at the crick."

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    3. Re:Like birds by SnarfQuest · · Score: 3, Funny

      Imagine the new ways people would live, and be shown on TV...

      You come home from vacation, only to find out that your house has already gone south for the winter?

      Your wife gets mad at you, and instead of throwing your clothes out in the front yard, moves the house without telling you.

      Two neighbors start fueding, and instead of a fistfight, start bashing their houses into each other.

      Survivor (what's it up to now, 856?), when you get voted off, they send you away in your house, pathetically waving "bye" from your bathroom window.

      Demolition derby, using houses instead of cars.

      House racing. Imagine the high octane flames spewing out the back and sides of a house during a drag race. Or the crashes (which is the main reason most of us even bother watching NASCAR).

      You hit the mid-life crisis, sell your old house and buy a high powered two wheel house, and a toupee.

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    4. Re:Like birds by mcgrew · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's still a dumb (albeit cool) idea, though. You can accomplish the same thing with older technologies far more efficiently and cheaply. Houses used to be built to the east of big trees, and indeed, often in a grove of them. The leaves and shade disappear in the winter when you need the sunlight. A central fireplace served to cool the house in the summer, etc.

      I could probably heat my house all winter long with the fuel it would take to move the damned thing closer to the trees.

    5. Re:Like birds by elrous0 · · Score: 2

      Hell, my whole trailer park is built on this revolutionary new principle.

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    6. Re:Like birds by Mister+Liberty · · Score: 2

      Sure. Owner: Hmm.... wasn't there a post office here yesterday...?

  2. Aw Crap by MightyMartian · · Score: 2

    Aw crap, now the extension cord won't reach!

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    1. Re:Aw Crap by pixelpusher220 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      'Crap' might be another consideration of things that no longer get to their intended destinations when buildings start moving...

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  3. There was an old cartoon that had this by Even+on+Slashdot+FOE · · Score: 3, Informative

    I can't remember if it was Felix the cat or Betty Boop, but it sounds a lot like this. The buildings were all on rails and moved around as needed, and people got on a stationary "train" car while the buildings came to them in a strange inversion of normal travel methods

    1. Re:There was an old cartoon that had this by mcgrew · · Score: 3, Informative

      It was Betty Boop and Grampy (I have that cartoon on DVD)

  4. Cue the Ruby jokes by dkleinsc · · Score: 3, Funny

    I mean, those guys can do absolutely anything on rails, and I'll bet it only took a few lines of code.

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    1. Re:Cue the Ruby jokes by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 3, Funny

      With rails you can easily migrate your buildings.

    2. Re:Cue the Ruby jokes by Steauengeglase · · Score: 3, Funny

      It is great for prototyping your city, but beware the syntactic sugar, it can gum up the line.

    3. Re:Cue the Ruby jokes by calexontheroad66 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Does not scale.

  5. Trailers by OglinTatas · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They could be even more flexible if everyone lived in trailers. You wouldn't have to wait for all your neighbors to move when it was time to pull up stakes, nor would you be forced to move when your neighbors get wanderlust.

    It proposed designs for rail-mounted single- and double-berth cabins,

    Make mine a double-wide.

    What is old is new again.

  6. Mrecury by Lord+Ender · · Score: 2

    One proposed method of colonizing Mercury is to build a city on rails that circles the slowly-spinning planet, always staying in the shady site where temperatures are cool enough for human habitats.

    With this story, such an idea doesn't seem nearly so far-fetched.

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    1. Re:Mrecury by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 2

      I cannot envision the systemwide overpopulation you'd need to be forced to colonise Mercury.

    2. Re:Mrecury by Lord+Ender · · Score: 2

      Overpopulation? Forced? You really can't imagine one group leaving home to colonize somewhere else without being "forced" to do so? Perhaps you should review your history books.

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  7. Swedish guy fucks with Norway by ReallyEvilCanine · · Score: 5, Funny

    Film at 11.

  8. Recycling old infrastructure by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 3, Informative

    Quoth TFA:

    The idea, says the agency, was to use the city's railway infrastructure -- left behind from the days when it was an maritime construction town, building oil rigs -- as a basis for its future. Konrad Milton, one of the partners in the company, told Wired.co.uk: "As we see it there are two major benefits. First, it's easier to put buildings on existing train tracks than to demolish the tracks and build regular building foundations. Secondly the city of Åndalsnes has different needs depending on season." ...

    Why rail and not roads? Milton says: "In this case the railtracks are in such abundance that it's the obvious choice, but the idea with rolling buildings could work very well in situations where roads and other hard surfaces are in abundance -- like old military airfields, harbors or over sized highways."

    Interesting recycling of old infrastructure. Reminds me of how Manchester England recycled a lot of its old inner city industrial warehouses and converted them to loft apartments. The population of the city centre boomed and and the already legendary nightlife of the city was given another boost as the place was gentrified. (Pity about the Hacienda nightclub though, it ended up becoming loft apartments too.) A lot of their old railways were recycled as tram lines. Trams running on the old railway tracks run at 50MPH which may not sound like much, but for travel in a built-up urban area it beats the hell out of anything you could do by road. The tram system (called Metrolink) combines that speed in the suburbs with the convenience of dropping you off literally at the doorstep of the shops and offices in the city centre. It's so popular that overcorwding was its biggest problem last time I was there.

    I'm not sure if Åndalsnes could re-use their old railway lines in that way but this mobile building thing is pretty innovative and exciting. Kudos!

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  9. Take it from an architecture major... by arcsimm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As somebody who keeps up with this kind of stuff (albeit often with a rather quizzical expression), you should just nod, smile, say "that's cool," and move on. Don't think about how monstrously impractical this would be. Don't consider the long-term maintenance issues involved with the moving parts, the problems involved with things like plumbing and electrical service, or the insulation requirements of a floor raised up off the ground in a northern climate. Don't try to think about how much simpler it would be to achieve the same goals in a passive design. Don't think about any of these things, because if you do your brain will break from the glaring obviousness of the problems. Just take a moment to appreciate the zoomy science-fiction cool factor, and get on with your day.

    1. Re:Take it from an architecture major... by MonsterTrimble · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It reminds me of a quote I heard in university: Architects make it pretty. Engineers make it work. Yes, it's a trollish quote but the more I deal with 'creative' types the more it's proven true.

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    2. Re:Take it from an architecture major... by arcsimm · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You have no idea how many times I heard this line in studio: "Hey, you think like an engineer...!" followed by a question about basic structural issues or weatherproofing. It's very frustrating how few architects and designers actually know how a building goes together. I'm a far cry from an actual engineer (show me a load-transfer problem and my eyes glaze over and roll up into my head) but I like to have at least a general concept of how the things I draw actually translate into physical objects. That's a shockingly uncommon sentiment amongst my peers.

  10. Choo Choo! by PingPongBoy · · Score: 3, Funny

    When they're going down the track, they can say "We built this city on rock and roll!"

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  11. I always dreamed of having a rail car apartment by Dr.+Spork · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This seems like a gimmick, but I have a fantasy that might actually be feasible - not for me, but for truly rich people. The idea would be to convert old railroad cars into luxury traveling apartments. There is plenty of room in one of those things for very comfortable living if the interior is designed ergonomically. The way I picture it, cities could "beautify" some of their defunct freight stations into rail car parks - parking lots for luxury rail apartments.

    Occupants could then negotiate transport of their apartment by attaching it to various freight trains at competitive prices. Moving freight by rail is pretty cheap, so this sort of "migration" might actually be pretty affordable once you've bought/rented one of these rolling apartments. I picture this working especially well on a continent like Europe, where there is lots of rail and lots to see. Next year, the rail tunnel under the Bosphorus will mean that you can take a rail car from Scotland to the Middle East on standard gauge rail. If China comes through on its plan to build a railroad across Asia into Turkey, that would extend the mobility of these apartments even farther.

    Of course, you could argue that shipping container apartments might be more practical and less constrained geographically, but that's just much less romantic.

    1. Re:I always dreamed of having a rail car apartment by arcsimm · · Score: 3, Informative

      This actually happens already, in a sense. I briefly worked for a company that was (tangientally - asbestos abatement is a big deal in older rail cars) involved in the conversion of old Pullman sleeper cars into high-roller wine-and-dine suites for companies and the wealthy. Once they'd been converted over, the owners could invite people aboard for a business trip, or rent them out to travelers looking to experience something new.

  12. Oh No! by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's the Crimson Assurance!!

  13. Rain on Parade by dragin33 · · Score: 2

    I'm sorry but I can't imagine this working.. As we all know buildings require a firm foundation. In order to have a rail system that could potentially hold the weight of the building at any given point the entire rail system would have to be build upon a foundation strong enough to hold the heaviest of buildings.. The costs would be astronomical; and for what? Miles of empty track?

    1. Re:Rain on Parade by sexconker · · Score: 2

      No, we'd have buildings along the entire track, except for one vacant spot.

      If you're at the top left, and you want to go to the bottom right, and the vacant spot is below the bottom right...

      [][]...[]
      [][]...[]
            |_|

      Every month we arrange the buildings to form a picture of an apple or kitty.

  14. Mayor Quimby figured it out years ago by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 2

    The all-contingency plan B: move the entire city 5 miles down the road!

  15. Sigh... by ShooterNeo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Problems :
    Using rail does not remove the problems you would have with the obvious alternate way : trailers. You basically have all of the disadvantages of using mobile trailers stacked with ADDITIONAL problems from width limits on a rail line. I'm not even going to go into the problems associated with mobile homes/trailers, other than to say that every single one I have ever been in sucked.

    And another additional problem : you can tow mobile homes and trailers over gravel and dirt roads that are dirt cheap to build and maintain (pun intended)

    Rail is VERY expensive : about $1 million/mile. Totally economically unfeasible to build the additional rail segments this plan would need to work, as well as to bring the old abandoned track up to code that this architect has in mind to use.