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Interview With KDE On Windows Release Manager Patrick Spendrin
paugq writes "Last week KDE 4.5.4 was released for Windows as a late Christmas present from the KDE on Windows team. Almost at the same time BehindKDE, the site for interviews with KDE contributors, has started a new series of interviews with the 'Platforms' theme. In the first interview, Pau Garcia i Quiles talks with Patrick Spendrin, the current release manager of KDE on Windows and asks about the current status of the project, challenges and difficulties. In future interviews, Mac, Solaris, BSD (it's not dead, after all!), Haiku, OS/2 and more."
pointless?
ehm....why?!
But some of those operating systems are pining for the fjords.
Jesus was all right but his disciples were thick and ordinary. -John Lennon
Does Okular now have print support on MS windows?
The day they manage that, will be the day that Okular becomes the best pdf viewer freely available for MS windows.
No adobe bloat (and so a reduced attack surface) and no nag-ware, and other annoying trying to 'real them in' features.
So is KDE for Windows meant to replace the Windows GUI altogether, or is it just for launching and running KDE applications?
I would _love_ to have an option like that when forced to use Windows.
Ehm... Read the article?
Oh right, this is Slashdot. Sorry, never mind.
FTFA, the only statement close to answering the question is:
and we want to support free tools also on Windows (that's why we do KDE on Windows, right?)
Doesn't really answer *why* KDE for Windows is a good thing -- one is left thinking "there are already lots of free beer/speech tools for Windows, why add one more?"
Sure, you probably have an answer to that. My point is the article itself doesn't answer it, so "Read the article" is a boneheaded response.
Pet peeve: Profane people propagating perfunctory pedantry.
BSD (it's not dead, after all!)
This shows a huge amount of ignorance. BSD is alive and fine, in several forms:
- FreeBSD
- NetBSD
- OpenBSD
- DragonFly BSD
These are probably the most important. Take a look at Freebsd Derivates. You'll see there are many commercial products derived from Freebsd too.
Also, there are initiatives of porting different Linux distros on top of the BSD kernel:
- Gentoo/*BSD
- Debian GNU/kFreeBSD
- Debian GNU/NetBSD (abandoned in 2002 it seems)
BSD was, is and will be alive for a long time.
Not to turn off enthusiasm but I'm having the same issue in kate for windows since 4.3.4 (last working version):
when restarting kate with some files in the session the files are not reloaded correctly. Some version complained about smb but I had not smb. This occurred even with new session (open a couple files, save session, restart kate).
A bugzilla for KDE on windows is highly needed.
BSD's not dead? But... but... Netcraft...
Some googling turned up some resources and eventually I realized there actually were links on the article page to a main KDE Windows Initiative page...
But none of those have any explanation of what it does, how it works inside Windows, or why you would want it.
That is, unfortunately, my experience with KDE generally. They have no concept, ability, or desire to explain to us, the Great Unwashed, how, what, or why.
It is not enough to have a technically superior product, folks -- you also have to "sell" it to your customers!
The headline reads as if KDE was interviewed on the topic of the Windows Release Manager Patrick Spendrin. I might have been a bit negligent in following KDE since 4.0 came out, but how could I miss its ascension to sentience?? Also, it has opinions about human developers now? That can't be good... did the KDE team learn nothing from Terminator?
The only reason i install kde-4win is Kmines.
It is _impossible_ to find a minesweeper game that expands the tiles as you make the window bigger for xp...except kmines
On another note, One KDE App i would really like to see ported to windows is quanta plus. I found a port called quanta gold but somehow they charge for it despite quanta plus being GPL.
Does it work on Wine?
and anybody who tells you otherwise is DAMN EVIL LIAR and is probably jealous. Ignore the rantings and ravings of JEALOUS, JEALOUS FAILURES. The GNOME faggots, Microsoft, Apple, and the Jews have all been trying to take Patrick down for years but they can't because he's just too damn good.
is the multi-compiler support. Mingw should be the only solution.
empire in dEcline,
KDE is a powerful software stack that can convince people to switch to linux based os.
porting kde to windows will just empower the microsoft monopoly.
The Windows Shell/GUI is perfectly servicable. It isn't the shell thats the cause of Windows problems , its IE and the boiling morass of poorly written and tested code underneath it making up the core OS services that causes 99% of the problems.
KDE on Windows is almost useless. The user base is extremely small. No one will truly consider it in a business or home environment, especially since Windows 7 outshines it. On Windows, KDE sits on top of the current window manager, spending more resources of the system in useless things.
It could be so much better if this energy was spent on more useful tasks!
Task. REesearch out of business
Trolltech's made QT
which makes a bit of awesome
desktop tooling work.
I am officially gone from
Writing free software above everything else is supossed to be FUN.
The developers felt they could and wanted to do it, and they did it. It really bothers me all the bitching when most of the complains came from persons with nil contributions.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion but since I and most FOSS developers do waht we do for FUN, most of us dont really care what you think. Its my time, and I do what makes me happy or challenges my intellect.
Next time you need to ask why, go ahead and donate some code or an amount of money equivalent to the time spend by any of the contributors to the software you are about to criticise.
Have a nice day.
He was talking why *he* wants it, not why a regular user would want it.
There's Qt (the window library KDE uses) for Windows already. How is a full-blown KDE for Windows really needed if all he wants to do is to use KDE apps on Windows? But more importantly, why bother at all, what real benefits are there? (These are honest questions that may be asked by someone who's genuinely interested.)
The article could have been a good "elevator pitch" for people to want to explore the site more. Failed for me.
Pet peeve: Profane people propagating perfunctory pedantry.
on an endeavour you s4ould bring things the right empire in decline, hear you. Also, if today. It's about aRnyone that thinks
It's a joke. Lighten up, Francis.
"Netcraft confirms it: *BSD is dying" is a long-running slashdot troll. You've just become its latest victim...
0 1 - just my two bits
The headline reads as if KDE was interviewed on the topic of the Windows Release Manager Patrick Spendrin.
Which is perfectly expected. As of about a year ago, "KDE" means the KDE team, and "KDE Plasma Desktop" is its product. Where were you?
...before virtualisation was as usable as now,..
Key words: Before now.
If I had to set up a multi-desktop deployment, I'd be very keen to look into running a GNU/Linux system and then adding on top of that any "must-have" Windows-only applications (either using WINE or virtualization).
I'm not really sure I see the benefits of the particular hybrid approach of layering KDE on top of Windows. If you're a user, you'll still get some of the issues w/Windows, even for mundane tasks that work equally well on Windows and on a Unix-y system. And unlike running a few virtualized apps if and when necessary, you're still dragging around the Windows OS for every user, even those people that don't need any Windows-based applications.
I'd be curious to see how many large companies/organizations have gone with WINE/virtualization for the few apps that are only available for Windows, and what kinds of problems they've faced.
coding is life
oh yeah, as if explorer aint shitty enough