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Mozilla To Release Firefox 4 Next Month

Neil writes "Damon Sicore, Senior Director of Platform Engineering at Mozilla, has announced that the company is almost ready to ship Firefox 4. On its mailing list, Mozilla has revealed it has around 160 hard blockers to fix, before proceeding to Release Candidate stage. Both the RC and the final version would arrive in February, according to Sicore. Mozilla was originally planning on having Firefox 4 out by the end of last year, but it had to delay the release till 2011. Last month, Firefox 4 Beta 8 was released for Windows, Mac OS X, and Linux 32-bit/64-bit, with support for 57 languages. Mozilla's roadmap says it still wants to release a Beta 9, a Beta 10, and at least one Release Candidate build before the final version."

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  1. meh by sortadan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Been using the beta. No real complaints, seems a bit snappier, but on the whole no big whoop. If anyone knows how to get the status bar back that would be nice. And for some reason they always put find at the bottom of the page, which is totally not intuitive since users enter info at the top with the search and address bars...

    1. Re:meh by just_another_sean · · Score: 4, Interesting

      And for some reason they always put find at the bottom of the page ...

      I always looked at that as a nod to vi. In addition to putting the "search this page" on the
      bottom you can activate it by hitting the / key, just like doing a find in a vi buffer. As a
      long time vi user I actually appreciate this and find myself missing it now that I use Chrome
      more often.

      For really hard core vi users their is also this for FireFox: Vimperator.
      For me it was a little too hard core and I never got used to it but never the less I
      appreciate the effort put into it!

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  2. This didn't release yet? by Admodieus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Wasn't this supposed to be the answer to Chrome - yet Chrome has shipped several iterations in the time it took them to get from 3 to 4? I think Firefox is on beta 10 or whatever. For a while, I maintained that I would switch back to Firefox once it matched the speed and minimalist interface that Chrome had, as I didn't like using a browser from Google. Now? Not so sure anymore - I'm so used to Chrome and it fits my workflow so well. It will take a lot to get me back.

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    1. Re:This didn't release yet? by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      For a while, I maintained that I would switch back to Firefox once it matched the speed and minimalist interface that Chrome had, as I didn't like using a browser from Google.

      You know there ARE more than 2 choices, right?

      Did you consider Opera?

    2. Re:This didn't release yet? by Haedrian · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I don't think Firefox was ever meant to be 'minimalist'. I always saw Firefox as the add-on and feature platform.

      Sure the line is getting blurry now... but I don't use FF because it opens 15 seconds faster. Just because it has features I find useful. Like the synch, and panorama and stuff...

    3. Re:This didn't release yet? by supersloshy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wasn't this supposed to be the answer to Chrome - yet Chrome has shipped several iterations in the time it took them to get from 3 to 4?

      Version numbers mean absolutely nothing; they only determine important milestones... or, in Chrome's case, pure marketing by making several "releases" painted as milestones, when in reality they're all quite minor updates. Firefox has a much more stable (and less confusing) version numbering system.

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    4. Re:This didn't release yet? by Lord+Ender · · Score: 3, Informative

      FireFox was created to be the "lighweight" version of Mozilla, a browser which had a built-in email, IRC and News client.

      But in ANY case, if your apps are taking 15 seconds to load, you need to buy an SSD STAT!! Disk IO on mechanical disks is pitiful. I can't imagine having to go back to waiting on apps to start.

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  3. Dumbed down by MrL0G1C · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've never reverted a version before, always liked the new one, but with FF 4 and it's lack of status bar and lack of SSL related security notices and missing right-click menu options, I've got to ask what the hell are they doing? Mozilla seem to be trying to dumb down FF and are removing useful features in the process. Double click blank space for a new tab is gone, right-click -> new tab is gone.

    It's slower to use now because quick options and quick information have been removed. Also, hovering over URLs now squeezes the URL to be visited into the URL box with the current URL, unreadable light coloured fonts have been chosen and for most URLs you can barely read a fraction of the URL - It's dreadful. Plus right-click -> block image has been removed.

    What next? Quit trying to copy Chrome and IE if I wanted to use those corporate straitjackets I would be.

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  4. Re:I sure hope... by Jugalator · · Score: 3, Insightful

    With "Panorama" aka "Tab Candy" aka "Bolted on tab management feature that only power users need", I'm not so sure. :-(

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  5. Re:I sure hope... by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 3, Insightful

    but once they got a good market share and user appreciation, it became bloatware.

    Some people call it "bloat", other people call it features that they asked for and find useful.

    Seriously, if you want a stripped down / light-weight browser, there are other options.

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  6. Re:how by Mr.+Spontaneous · · Score: 4, Informative

    You'll have to get addons for both. They want to phase out the status bar, and they figured not providing that functionality was for the best. The titlebar is part of an ongoing WONTFIX, because they think Tabs on Top deserves more love. Thankfully, tired of people's complaints, they whipped together this addon that does the trick: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/221514/ (Vista+)

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  7. Re:Missing menu bar? by supersloshy · · Score: 3, Informative

    By default on Windows, it's replaced by the Firefox Menu. Just right-click anywhere on the UI (besides the page) and turn the menu bar back on. You can also do this from the preferences menu inside the Firefox Menu itself.

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  8. No Status Bar = FAIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I know you can get an add-on to replace it.

    But that requires each and every user to look for and install something that should already be there!

    For the developers to take the status bar completely out... that's just ridiculous.

    At the very least, put a little check box in the options page to turn it back on.

    1. Re:No Status Bar = FAIL by Anonymous+Psychopath · · Score: 3, Informative

      Not really a fail. What they've done is split the functionality of the existing status bar in two. One part displays the URL you hover over; that has been moved to the URL bar instead. The other part is the add-on icons, and that's been moved to a distinct add-on toolbar, which can be shown or hidden easily as the user prefers. Each and every user will not be installing a status bar extension, because each and every user doesn't want or need a dedicated status bar. IMHO they've implemented the needed functionality in a better way.

      The whole point of FF is it will look like and behave like whatever you want it to, more or less. Changing the way it works by default doesn't change that.

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  9. Re:Missing menu bar? by eko3 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think your desire is in the minority. Most people don't want to play around under the hood of their browser. Most people could care less. Most people want to see more facebook, foursquare, linkedin, twitter (ad naseum).... and that's exactly what they are getting with these new revs. Welcome to Web 2.0... 3.0... eh... whatever...

  10. Re:how by Hatta · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They want to phase out the status bar, and they figured not providing that functionality was for the best

    Wow, that's simply awful. The status bar is there for a reason. Do they really want people following links with even less information than they have now? If my browser is stalling out trying to load a page, how will I know what domain to block?

    Looks like Mozilla is continuing to dumb down its user interface. Is there a browser around that targets the geek market? One for those of us who want more information and more control?

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  11. Re:I sure hope... by LordLimecat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Its NOT the seamonkey model; unlike opera, mozilla, seamonkey etc, it doesnt have built in mail, torrent, ftp (at least not worth mentioning), an HTTP server (opera...), newsreader, etc.

    Its JUST a browser, like its always been.

    And I raise a motion that all complaining that 3.0 is too slow and bloaty, should be forced to use version 1.0 or 1.5 or 2.0, and see just how slow they really are when used with modern expectations of heavy duty JS, 30 some tabs, and zillions of extensions. I seem to recall an AWFUL lot of complaining from days of yore about 1.0 and 1.5's memory usage and bloat.

    What is it they say, "the grass is always greener..."?

  12. Status bar by bazmail · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Bring back the god damn status bar. Change for change's sake is never a good idea.

  13. Re:how by beardz · · Score: 4, Informative

    That's a show stopper for me.

    Same here for quite a while - fortunately Status-4-Evar plugin showed up to remedy that particular ill.

  14. Re:Status of the status bar by ampathee · · Score: 4, Informative

    Chrome lacks a status bar only when the status bar would be empty. As soon as there is something to put in it, it appears.

    Mouse-over a link, and it shows you the target. Click a link, and it tells you what the progress is, until it's finished. Then the status bar disappears again.

  15. Re:I sure hope... by blair1q · · Score: 3, Informative

    I was forced to use 2.0 on certain machines until a few months ago, and frankly it can't handle the modern Internet.