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Google To Push WebM With IE9, Safari Plugins

surveyork writes with this "new chapter in the browser wars: 'Google in a defense of its decision to pull H.264 from Chrome's HTML5 revealed that it will put out WebM plugins for Internet Explorer 9 and Safari. Expecting no official support from Apple or Microsoft, Google plans to develop extensions that would load its self-owned video codec. No timetable was given.' So Google gets started with their plan for world-wide WebM domination. They'll provide WebM plugins for the browsers of the H.264-only league, so in practice, all major browsers will have WebM support — one way or the other. Machiavellian move?"

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  1. Yes, Machiavellien, quite by Miseph · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How sinister of them, trying to compete with a proprietary codec by releasing free plugins for other vendors' browsers to play their unencumbered format.

    Look out Lex Luthor, Eric Schmidt is stealing your schtick.

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  2. "Machiavellian move?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So lets recap:

    * Mozilla and Google push for a video tag in HTML that is unencumbered by patents. Apple and Microsoft will not go along.
    * Google acquires On2, and promotes it as an open standard, including promises to defend it in court.
    * Google promises to release plugins that allow IE9 and Safari to decode their codec in the two browsers which won't support it natively. No one is forced to use their open standard, but it is now an option across all browsers that implement the video tag.

    If buying a codec so you can open it, make it freely available to everyone, and defend it from patent attack is Machiavellian, than how would you describe Apple and Microsoft's work to make sure the only way to play a video is the use of a proprietary format?

  3. Re:Then has anyone decided to fork the H.264 build by grcumb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As a consumer, H.264 is pretty much perfect. It essentially comes free with everything I own, costs me nothing to use on the web, is universally supported, and runs smoothly and sips power on all my devices. Of those, WebM only does the "costs me nothing to use on the web".

    And there is the crux of the issue: Assuming a strong distinction between consumer and producer, there's no problem. But anyone astride the cusp between the two is vulnerable to fees that could stop them from distributing a popular video made with H.264. People have already testified here that once the license regime kicks in (for distribution above a certain number) they suddenly gain the interest of the licensing body and have no choice but to pay or to stop distributing the video.

    The idea that video content is made solely for profit is the worm in the middle of this particular apple. And it's likely why Google, with their huge investment in Youtube, want to give their users an alternative.

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  4. A brilliant move! by erroneus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We learned an important and valuable lesson with MSIE and HTML. We learned that Microsoft's implementation of HTML/CSS is very, very broken. However, because at one time, the majority of users used MSIE, web developers needed to design their content primarily for MSIE. And since the majority of content was for MSIE, users mostly used MSIE. And because most users used MSIE, content was designed for MSIE... and so on and so on in that looping fashion.

    So, with HTML5, we have a chance to start anew. We should ALL be adhering to the same standards so that everyone gets a fair shake. But already, there is positioning, posturing, claim staking and all manner of politics threatening the HTML5 fresh start.

    Google wants a good cleam fresh start. Why? Because they are primarily content providers, that's why. Their stake is more closely aligned with the users of the internet as we share a common interest -- good, usable content, without irregularities or problems. Good for us; good for Google.

    So Google, with this move, is trying to break the looping cycle I described above. If the most commonly supported format out there is WebM, the content creators will design for the most commonly supported format! It will not matter if browsers also support a second format, only that WebM is supported.

    Now will Microsoft and even Apple play the "only MSIE/Safari is supported" game with their content? Most definitely. There is still room for the other players to spoil it for everyone else. But this is a pretty good strategy to get content creators to help break the cycle before it starts.

  5. Re:Even more IE plugins from Google? by hkmwbz · · Score: 5, Insightful
    You are forgetting that when Firefox 4 is released, WebM will be the most widely supported codec by far. IE9 will not magically capture major market share overnight. So it doesn't matter if IE9 doesn't support WebM. IE9 is basically irrelevant. Older versions will keep having more users.

    Safari on Mac will fight the fight for H264 on the desktop all by itself. Ouch.

    Flash supporting H264 is irrelevant. Or rather, it's a good thing, because Flash can be used as a fallback while WebM takes over the market. Future versions of Flash will support WebM anyway.

    WebM will be natively supported on all future Android devices. That's a huge market, and will probably be the dominant mobile OS.

    You are clearly biased against Google and WebM. You refuse to look at the reality of the situation. Apple fanboy, perhaps?

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  6. Re:Start your betting by thechink · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Do people think before posting idiotic comments like this?

    My Mac already has many codecs installed that Apple doesn't officially support. Nothing Apple can do about it. What's one more?

    What incentive would MS or Apple have in blocking it?