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ClamAV For Windows Open Beta Begins
An anonymous reader writes "The public beta for ClamAV for Windows 3.0, which includes full integration of the ClamAV engine into the Immunet Protect product, is now open. If you are interested in playing with ClamAV for Windows 3.0, please see these forums. 32-bit and 64-bit versions are available for download. ClamAV for Windows should not be confused with ClamWin, a separate project."
Will it run on Windows 3.1 as well?
From TFA "ClamAV 3.0 for Windows Open Beta", not "ClamAV for Windows 3.0" as the summary states.
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Could someone enlighten us what the Immunet product is? Their web page is so full of cloud computing and other buzzwords that I can't see what's different from other vendors tools
An anti virus application for Windows 3.0
Sure, it's something to make fun of, Windows 3.0 and all that. But advertising an anti virus product beta on Slashdot's main page? C'mon.
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People waiting to follow the only worthy upgrade from XP want to know ;)
ClamAV is an open source anti-virus. That's a pretty big deal, considering it is the only one. Or at least, the only one that is complete and still maintained.
Were you being sarcastic, or did I miss a joke?
The clamAV engine is designed for scanning incoming email. These days any sensibly configured email system deletes all email with any forum of executable attachment before it gets anywhere near the end users so email scanning is a bit of a niche market.
The ClamAV engine may be good at email scanning but that does not mean it is good for general malware scanning. Clamwin, which uses the clamAV engine in a general windows malware/virus scanner has very poor detection compared to the top few antivirus packages (Eset Nod32, AVG, kaspersky, avira paid version, panda).
Malware delivered via the web is the main source of the epidemic of crap on the windows platform these days. In geek circles I feel like a suspected plague carrier because I carry a windows laptop instead of running ubuntu or carrying an apple.
I do nearly all my browsing in windows virtual machines. The basic firefox only VM is little trouble. A vm with flash player, Sun java, acrobat reader, dotnet addon etc results in the "whats all this network traffic, shit the VM is sending spam" or "popups WTF?" every few months, followed by going back to a known good copy of the VM and redownloading lots of updates.
Over that last year I'v uploaded a couple of dozen malware .exe's from the web to virustotal, (mostly attempts to exploit user ignorance that didn't getting running on my machine eg desirable-file.pdf.exe). I keep the exe's and check how long it takes for AV companies to add detection. Kaspersky and AVG usually add detections within 36 hours, avira is usually "next day" provided next day is monday-friday.
Half the time Clamwin does not detect the malware and typically takes a couple of weeks to start detecting my sample if they get it at all.
I have little confidence in another package using the clamAV engine doing any better.
Also the ony real cleanup response for malware arriving by email is 'delete', removing malware that has installed itself into windows takes much more work. A of people rely on antivirus software to clean up messy infections instead of being organised enough to have current backups and known-good images of every machine.
A way cooler project might be to backport all those nice new viruses to run on Windows 3.x. Just think of all those people who are missing out.
Oh no, I was just about to insert the first of my Win3.0 720Kb setup floppies to give ClamAV a spin.
Just repaired a computer that had ClamAV installed.
It missed multiple trojans that Microsoft Security Essentials found.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
No, they run Windows 3.11 because they require that "for Workgroups" feature.
Yeah, having to use Google to figure out something you don't know is so hateful and discriminatory.... ;)
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you're a bit ambiguous yourself, are your "regular clams" the underwater or bearded variety, i.e. are you buttering and tasting marine bivalves or vulvas?
that there was a 64 bit version of Windows 3.0!
Yeah, cause it would make so much sense to make an antivirus for Windows 3.0... In 2010, that is.
.sig: No such file or directory
Yeah, some mod could mod this funny, but it's actually sad but true... for some older ATMs at least. Nowadays I see quite a few running XP (you can see that on the back screen, if the ATM is in a place where you can see its back). But a few years ago I've seen a crashed ATM and it had plain MS-DOS. Then I remembered that I've used once an ATM of that particular bank, and that it seemed to me that the fonts looked just like the BGI fonts (Borland Graphics Interface - those who used Borland Pascal/C++ during the '90s know what I'm talking about), so I'm pretty sure that ATM was running plain DOS with some graphical app coded in Borland Pascal or C++ on it.
.sig: No such file or directory
I ran Windows NT 4 on a P166, dual-booting with DOS for games. I installed Windows 3.11 in DOS and it was amazingly fast, although running something designed for a 640x480 (16 colour!) display on a 1024x768 screen made it look a bit strange. Running on a modern system would probably be so fast that you'd barely have time to see the UI before you got the first general protection fault...
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What's this google?
"The likes of Facebook and WhatsApp are free to those whose privacy is of zero value."
I thinks it's sadder when an ATM runs XP. Those things handle sensitive data and should be kept as simple as possible, as more code always implies more bugs, no matter who's code it is.
An ATM running DOS would generally feel more trustworthy to me than one running XP.
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I think it more likely you hit a divide overflow before you see a GPF.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
The Immunet Community has over 0 members protected from 0 threats.
Whatever it is they do, the Immunet Community appears to rely too much on Javascript.
What's this google?
Same as that Google, only closer.
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I've been using ClamWin (http://www.clamwin.com) for years without any problems. Does anyone know the difference?
I ran Windows NT 4 on a P166, dual-booting with DOS for games. I installed Windows 3.11 in DOS and it was amazingly fast, although running something designed for a 640x480 (16 colour!) display on a 1024x768 screen made it look a bit strange. Running on a modern system would probably be so fast that you'd barely have time to see the UI before you got the first general protection fault...
I've been stuck with an interesting dilemma a few times, where I installed a new hard drive into my netbook. Problem is, how do you install the OS? Well, the best option I had available at the time was to boot over the network with a virtual floppy and install DOS 7.0 on the machine. With that, I was actually able to at one point install Win 3.11, but the problem was that none of the drivers worked for the newer hardware, and the hardware had lost enough backwards compatibility to make the drivers that did exist not work. So, I was stuck with a vastly overspeced computer that couldn't even set the resolution above 640x480... :(
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Are you sure? You probably have a setting for SoundBlaster emulation in the BIOS (I think it's not enabled by default now, because most stuff expects an AC97 interface, but it's possible to enable). Windows 3.1 also supported SVGA via VESA, which I think all modern graphics cards still support, although it didn't select that driver automatically. You won't get any hardware acceleration, but given that software drawing was fast enough on a 16MHz 386, that's probably not a problem...
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Why wouldn't it be? The application takes only very well defined input and the hardware is known. I don't see any problems.
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Yeah, cause it would make so much sense to make an antivirus for Windows 3.0...
Yeah that's right. Just run it under DOS 6.22, which comes with its own antivirus msav.exe.
Well, it's a netbook... so the BIOS has hardly any options at all.
As for the SVGA via VESA, the problem is that Windows 3.1 uses VESA 1, or at least before VESA 2, which really just put up a standard that people can write drivers to support... I don't remember the details, but suffice it to say, things were horribly ill supported.
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Wake me up when they have on-access scanning working. And preferably fast enough not to bring the system to a grinding halt when starting up a moderately large binary (admittedly, a lot of commercial vendors would fail that test too).
Cost is what drives it. ATMs need network support and the banks want a flashy graphical/animated interface that advertises their shit. You could implement all that on an embedded system but it would take longer and cost more money to do, so the developers just throw XP on and figure that since the system is physically secured with a key and only ever connects to the ATM network and not the wider internet any security concerns are nullified.
In reality that isn't the case, of course.
I have a similar problem in my job. I write software for controlling building fire suppression systems. There are buttons for the Fire Fighters to override the actions of the system if needs be and they are secured with a key. Unfortunately the key tends to get given to the building manager or security grunt who then uses it to open a few vents when it gets hot in the summer. A fire starts and the buttons are already set to override the system that could easily cause the fire suppression to fail (e.g. there is an extract fan that can clear one floor, but someone opened a vent on a different floor so its flow rate is now 50% on each floor).
I fixed that by resetting all the buttons when there is a fire. You have to assume your security measures will be bypassed if at all possible.
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All I could find is that it gives you "the advanced protection of the cloud". That sounds really awesome, and I think I must need it desperately. Probably you too.
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Immunet is a lightweight client that runs on the Desktop, the AV is done "in the cloud" as opposed to running a gigantic fat client and downloading daily updates. As a result, it's faster, adapts faster, and allows for worldwide correlation.
ClamAV is an opensource Antivirus program.
Sounds like the perfect datamining operation... I wonder if they are gonna go Google and make it a free service, and sell analytics data. That would be a great business model, if they have a decent privacy policy. Hell, I think you could try the same trick and OEM Ubuntu machines, and have click-through EULA during the configuration phase (not too convulted, we want to be fair now - the lusers won't even glance at it anyway). Send tracking data for a limited period (and make tracking removal reasonably easy enough - those who bother to remove it are not gonna rack up too many support calls anyway), in return, you get to license legitimate codecs, and free support.
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