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Genghis Khan, History's Greenest Conqueror

New research suggests that in addition to being one of history's cruelest conquerors, Genghis Khan may have been the greenest. It is estimated that the Mongol leader's invasions unintentionally scrubbed almost 700 million tons of carbon from the atmosphere. From the article: "Over the course of the century and a half run of the Mongol Empire, about 22 percent of the world's total land area had been conquered and an estimated 40 million people were slaughtered by the horse-driven, bow-wielding hordes. Depopulation over such a large swathe of land meant that countless numbers of cultivated fields eventually returned to forests. In other words, one effect of Genghis Khan's unrelenting invasion was widespread reforestation, and the re-growth of those forests meant that more carbon could be absorbed from the atmosphere." I guess everyone has their good points.

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  1. Genghis was a greenie?! by jollyreaper · · Score: 4, Funny

    Glen Beck glares up at the sky. "KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!"

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  2. Kahn? by D+Ninja · · Score: 4, Funny

    Genghis Kahn? Huh...I tried to look him up, but couldn't find anything out about him. Lots of information about another guy called Genghis Khan, though. But...that's probably just a coincidence.

  3. yep... by Charliemopps · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm sure Al Gore will start up a pay-as-you-go Mongol Horde you can join if you really care about the environment any day now. Kill your neighbors, save a tree!

  4. Environmentalism = genocide? by mschaffer · · Score: 4, Funny

    So, how long until environmentalists call for mass execution to reduce humanity's carbon footprint?

    1. Re:Environmentalism = genocide? by Even+on+Slashdot+FOE · · Score: 4, Informative

      They already do. Just not on the shows non-environmentalists watch, for the most part.

    2. Re:Environmentalism = genocide? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Perhaps these stones were placed by environmentalists?

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones

    3. Re:Environmentalism = genocide? by BlackSabbath · · Score: 4, Insightful

      We don't need anyone to call for a mass execution. People forget that most systems self-regulate. Like the bacteria in the petri dish we will - at some point - get to the edge of the dish and find there's no more resources left. At which point there will be a massive die off. There may well be some of us left over to start again. Or not. Who knows?

      And to those of you that think we can terraform Mars or something and just ship out there - I call BS. We can't do the basics on THIS planet economically. What makes it likely that we'll be able to do so on another planet where everything is X (where X>1) times harder?

  5. Smooth Move by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Way to go Mother Nature Network (MNN), you have tied Genghis Khan to environmentalism. Expect to see this quoted out of context on Fox.

  6. Genghis Khan == a polluter by JonySuede · · Score: 4, Insightful

    the CO2 in Genghis Khan time's was not a pollutant but the methane that the 40 millions rotting corpses generated was.

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  7. Stupid article by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The article is, of course, being stupid-- deliberately stupid, I expect, but still stupid.

    The anthropogenic greenhouse effect was not a problem in the 13th century, and the the total amount of carbon dioxide that had been emitted by the entire human race at that point was trivial. To the extend that his conquests removed carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, it was addressing a problem that didn't exist.

    I will also point out that current carbon dioxide emission is about 30 billion tons per year. If the Mongols removed "700 million tons" of carbon from the atmosphere, then in the course of a century and a half of Mongol rule they accomplished the removal of an amount of carbon dioxide equal to about one week of modern emission.

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    1. Re:Stupid article by Solandri · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The anthropogenic greenhouse effect was not a problem in the 13th century, and the the total amount of carbon dioxide that had been emitted by the entire human race at that point was trivial. To the extend that his conquests removed carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, it was addressing a problem that didn't exist.

      I will also point out that current carbon dioxide emission is about 30 billion tons per year. If the Mongols removed "700 million tons" of carbon from the atmosphere, then in the course of a century and a half of Mongol rule they accomplished the removal of an amount of carbon dioxide equal to about one week of modern emission.

      You're forgetting consequential effects. If he culled 40 million people from the population during the 13th century, he didn't just remove those 40 million people. He also removed all their potential descendants. Given that the estimated population of the world at the time was about 400 million, a 40 million reduction works out to about 10%.

      Since percentages aren't distorted by exponential growth, that means he's responsible for a 10% reduction in the world's current population. There are nearly 700 million fewer people alive today because of him. If we go with your 30 billion tons of CO2 globally figure, he's responsible for a 3 billion tons of CO2 annual reduction here and now.

    2. Re:Stupid article by WinstonWolfIT · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sorry that's a terribly unsubstantiated conclusion. The birth rate is tied directly to population density, economic and biological factors. Unkill those millions and you simply trigger an earlier birth rate decrease. The actual population would be somewhere between now and 10% more than now, closer to now than 10%.

    3. Re:Stupid article by antifoidulus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Especially if you consider the fact that conquerers like that mainly killed men and the elderly. The fertile women were usually raped, married off, and/or sold as slaves for above purposes. So the overall effect on the population would be limited, he was just replacing one set of sperm with another.

  8. Bob Genghis Khan by DudemanX · · Score: 4, Funny

    Was this before or after he totally ravaged Oshman's Sporting Goods?