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Obama Nominates RIAA Lawyer For Solicitor General

Xiph1980 writes "President Barack Obama on Monday nominated former Recording Industry Association of America lawyer Donald Verrilli Jr. to serve as the nation's solicitor general. The solicitor general is charged with defending the government before the Supreme Court, and files friend-of-the court briefs in cases in which the government believes there is a significant legal issue. The office also determines which cases it would bring to the Supreme Court for review. Verrilli is best known for leading the recording industry's legal charge against music- and movie-sharing site Grokster. That 2003 case ultimately led to Grokster's demise when the US Supreme Court sided with the RIAA's verdict."

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  1. Don't worry big media, the fix is in by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I can understand the argument that he wants the most vicious shark in the tank to be his attack dog. I might could even buy the argument that this WASN'T just another in a long line of examples of Obama prostrating himself before his Hollywood and entertainment industry patrons. But, it seems to me that he could have found an attack dog that was just as vicious who didn't come with RIAA baggage. To hire someone whose such an obvious enemy of much of the online community and such a lapdog of the entertainment industry seems specifically designed to send a message to his patrons that he's definitely in their pocket. It's the judicial equivalent of Eddie Cicotte hitting the first batter in the 1919 World Series.

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    1. Re:Don't worry big media, the fix is in by chemicaldave · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Your first thoughts mirrored mine exactly. He want's a good lawyer first if he'll be defending the government in court. Not sure how this makes him their "lapdog." How does this benefit the RIAA or recording industry as a whole? When was the government directly implicated in a case involving the recording industry?

    2. Re:Don't worry big media, the fix is in by shadowfaxcrx · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Obama is better than W only because he has a normal IQ. As to his politics, he's a corporatist who's broken enough campaign promises (close gitmo! Stop military tribunals of suspected terrists! Get out of Iraq! End welfare for the rich!) to lose 3 re-election bids. Nonetheless, I'll probably have to vote for him because the other side will be running some jackass like Palin, Pawlenty or Bachmann, and letting them get within 3 miles of the White House would be disastrous.

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    3. Re:Don't worry big media, the fix is in by billcopc · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You assume people stop being corrupt greed-mongers when they switch jobs. Funny guy!

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    4. Re:Don't worry big media, the fix is in by Aryden · · Score: 3, Informative

      "Amicus Curiae: Literally, friend of the court. A person with strong interest in or views on the subject matter of an action, but not a party to the action, may petition the court for permission to file a brief, ostensibly on behalf of a party but actually to suggest a rationale consistent with its own views. Such amicus curiae briefs are commonly filed in appeals concerning matters of a broad public interest; e.g., civil rights cases. They may be filed by private persons or the government. In appeals to the U.S. courts of appeals, an amicus brief may be filed only if accompanied by written consent of all parties, or by leave of court granted on motion or at the request of the court, except that consent or leave shall not be required when the brief is presented by the United States or an officer or agency thereof." -- legal-dictionary.freedictionary.com This means that in cases such as the legality of the suits filed by the *IAA's, he will have the ability to file amicus curiae briefs on behalf of the administration and/or the *IAA's. It doesn't have to mean that the government was directly implicated in anything, but it is a preparatory action for the future class action suits that will be filed against them.

    5. Re:Don't worry big media, the fix is in by chemicaldave · · Score: 2

      You assume people stop being corrupt greed-mongers when they switch jobs. Funny guy!

      This is a non-sequitur. Does his past mean that he's going to start suing copyright infringers on behalf of the US government?

    6. Re:Don't worry big media, the fix is in by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually, my position is more anti-DRM and pro-privacy. I buy every piece of my media legitimately, mind you. So it's not piracy I'm defending--it's my right as a legitimate consumer to be protected from big media companies intruding on my rights and my privacy because they assume I'm a pirate by default (and want to use the government to help them trample on my rights).

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    7. Re:Don't worry big media, the fix is in by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Informative

      The Solicitor General does way more than that. As another post in the thread pointed out, a big part of the job is filing Amicus Curiae briefs with the Supreme Court. that means when the RIAA/MPAA or big media goes before the Supreme Court, guess who will be asked to file a friend of the Court brief saying "We support these guys"?

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    8. Re:Don't worry big media, the fix is in by jfalcon · · Score: 5, Informative

      http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10024163-38.html [cnet.com]

      "By choosing Joe Biden as their vice presidential candidate, the Democrats have selected a politician with a mixed record on technology who has spent most of his Senate career allied with the FBI and copyright holders, who ranks toward the bottom of CNET's Technology Voters' Guide, and whose anti-privacy legislation was actually responsible for the creation of PGP."

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    9. Re:Don't worry big media, the fix is in by mcgrew · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'll probably have to vote for him because the other side will be running some jackass like Palin

      There's more than one other side. You can vote Litertarian, Constitution, or Green. If you buy into the unintelligent argument that voting for any other party besides Reps and Dems is a wasted vote, than all those votes for McCain were wasted, because HE LOST and you voted for a loser!!! See the idiocy here?

      If you smoke pot you're a fool to vote Democratic or Republican; they both want you in jail. If you're a foe of the media cartels you're almost as much a fool to vote for them, because the MAFIAA owns both parties. A vote for a Democrat or Republican is a vote for multinational corporation control of the government.

      Now, if you're a corporatist, Republicans and Democrats are both good choices. If you're for human liberty, neither is.

    10. Re:Don't worry big media, the fix is in by clydemaxwell · · Score: 2

      I should make this a moment for my 'I hate dubya, but he's not dumb' speech, but maybe another time.
      It is sad that we can't vote out someone who is as bad a liar as Obama because the alternative is Palin. Obama is a politician -- sneaky, and needing to do different from what he says for his own agenda -- but Palin and her ilk are beyond a joke. They've become a nightmare because people are so divorced from reality that they really think MILF status is enough to become leader of the country (and, historically, the 'free world'). If nobody took Palin seriously we could relax and allow her to return to cheesy joke status, and exile her back to Alaska where she clearly belongs.

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    11. Re:Don't worry big media, the fix is in by Raven_Stark · · Score: 2

      People need to wake up to the reality that most Democrats, almost all Republicans, almost all Tea Baggers and almost all Libertarians who stand any chance of being elected are really members of the same party. They work for the corporations and the elites to suck every one else dry. The differences between them are just theater to distract us from the reality that we do not live in a democracy and they are screwing over us and the rest of the world. It is high time to get serious about organizing against them and taking control.

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    12. Re:Don't worry big media, the fix is in by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Nonetheless, I'll probably have to vote for him because the other side will be running some jackass like Palin, Pawlenty or Bachmann, and letting them get within 3 miles of the White House would be disastrous.

      People who keep voting for the "lesser of the two evils" are exactly why we keep ending up with politicians who are only slightly better than their competition, but still tremendously corrupt. It is the "third parties have no chance" (not that you necessarily displayed that in your post) attitude that prevents third parties from ever winning, not the fact that they are third parties. Instead of voting for the lesser of the two evils, vote for someone good, and encourage others to do the same so that hopefully we'll be able to break this cycle sometime in the future.

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    13. Re:Don't worry big media, the fix is in by wurble · · Score: 5, Informative

      I would agree with you if we didn't have a first past post system. If we had instant runoff or some other similar multi-vote system, then your theory could work. However in first past post, any third party serves only to act as a spoiler for the party closest to them. As such, libertarians tend to act as spoilers for the Republicans and Green tends to act as spoilers for the Democrats.

    14. Re:Don't worry big media, the fix is in by h4rm0ny · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I feel the same way and would only vote D just to keep the R's away. I do NOT want D's; I want less R's.

      Wow. If people think this way, then I've just thought of a way it could be exploited. All I would have to do would be to pick what I wanted to happen and have it supported by group A, and then just make sure that alternative B was horribly worse. For added refinement to stop people getting wise to it, I could divide up what I wanted to achieve between both A and B and alternate which appeared worse.

      Phew. I'm glad no-one else has ever thought of that. Can you imagine what America would be like if they had...?

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    15. Re:Don't worry big media, the fix is in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But the fact that he's a former RIAA lawyer has nothing to do with that. If, as you claim, the US government will be pushing their solicitor general to file amicus curiae briefs in support of the RIAA (a contention that I strongly disagree with, but will support for the sake of argument) then whoever gets put in that job will be asked to do so. Hiring an ex RIAA lawyer really doesn't speak to that point at all. The fact is, he was hired for the exact same reason the RIAA hired him, he's a damn good lawyer.

    16. Re:Don't worry big media, the fix is in by h4rm0ny · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It doesn't matter. The only logical ways out of the trap are either break the two party lock by voting for someone else, or reject the current democratic process. As the only legal method of rejecting the current process is to get third parties into power which is the problem you're trying to solve, that only leaves illegal means. So basically if you ever want this to change, you're facing a choice of voting your principles or revolution. Do not let it get to the point where it has to be a revolution.

      If people start voting their principles, then third parties may only get 5% this year, but that makes it easier to get 6% next year. When people see it's rising, more people vote for it. Then you've got 7%, which encourages more people to vote. Then one year, you wake up and you've changed things.

      If America is worth fighting for, then accept it's going to take more than one battle. If you lose a few, it doesn't matter because you're gaining ground. You have to try.

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    17. Re:Don't worry big media, the fix is in by elrous0 · · Score: 2

      The Ivy League has a long and sad history of...ahem..."exceptions" made for the wealthy, politically-connected, and famous. Basically--if you're a movie star, the son or daughter of a well-known U.S. politician, or the son or daughter of someone with a lot of money to donate to the school--you're in. They probably don't even check your SAT's. If you ever want proof of how stupid you can be and still get into the Ivy League, go listen to Brooke Shield's commentary track on "The Blue Lagoon" sometime. She's an epic ditz--and she got a free pass to Princeton (something the rest of us would have to work our asses off for).

      You think Natalie Portman (and all those other ditzy celebrities) and most of the Kennedy himbos and bimbos actually EARNED their way into the Ivy League?

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    18. Re:Don't worry big media, the fix is in by h4rm0ny · · Score: 2

      Only if he buys media from the major labels. He probably does, but he definitely does not say so explicitely.

      Huh? I buy media from the major labels, but it doesn't come with DRM. My 320Kbps MP3 come down the wire and play on anything I care to play them on or can be burned to a CD no problem.

      DRM was a response to piracy. It has stimulated piracy only the most modest of feedback loops. The huge majority of people who download aren't doing so because DRM is a problem to them - they do it because it's easy and they get stuff free that they'd have to pay for otherwise. If there's less piracy, there's less pressure on media producers to stick encumbering DRM on everything. They know that people don't like the in your face DRM so if they feel able to ditch it and then make more money from sales, they will. Piracy is the reason the rest of us have to put up with DRM.

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    19. Re:Don't worry big media, the fix is in by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What is funny, is that you think there is substantial difference between (D) and (R), to the point of thinking one is less dangerous than the other. The problem is that both are extremely dangerous to Liberty, just in different areas. You may not care about what liberties the (D) are taking away, but I do. I'm equally concerned with the Liberties that the (R) are talking away.

      When you overlook the deficiencies of one group (D) because you fear the deficiencies of the other (R), you're equal to those you despise on the other side, who do the exact same things in reverse.

      Lets look at the TSA under Obama and his leadership, which is, as far as I'm concerned 10 times worse than anything Bush did, not that Bush wasn't dangerous (he was). The real danger is that Obama is only 1/2 though is first term, and has potentially six more years to screw with us. Bush is no longer here, and no longer scares me.

      By Focusing on how horrible Bush was, while ignoring that Obama has for all intents and purposes kept Bush Era rules around and even extended them, does us all a great disservice.

      Suffice it to say, Obama scares me more than Bush does. And if he doesn't scare you more than Bush you're living in a delusion. One last point, I love how people think Bush was an idiot, while simultaneously thinking he is brilliantly evil and draconian. I see the left making the same mistake with Palin, while ignoring how stupid Pelosi / Reed seem to be at times. NONE of these people are stupid, they are all just Evil.

      To Flip a saying I use occasionally: Any sufficient level of malice is indistinguishable from incompetence.

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    20. Re:Don't worry big media, the fix is in by kangsterizer · · Score: 2

      You assume people stop being corrupt greed-mongers when they switch jobs. Funny guy!

      This is a non-sequitur. Does his past mean that he's going to start suing copyright infringers on behalf of the US government?

      So when you're doing shit toward citizens at your previous jobs, you should be appointed a new job with a huge responsibility towards million of citizens, and the said citizen should "give you a chance"?

      I call that madness

      This reminds me of OSS117 Cairo nest of spy, a french comedy:

      the nazi: that's funny, it's always the NAZIS who are the bad guys. We're in 1955 herr Bramard, we can have a second chance thanks ?!

    21. Re:Don't worry big media, the fix is in by qmaqdk · · Score: 2

      The Republicans might actually be playing this angle on purpose. Think about it. They've gotten tax cuts under Obama that they couldn't get under Bush, and if (or when) it causes a deficit meltdown Obama will take the blame. Running Palin or any of the other ... candidates is a complete win win for them. If Palin wins who knows what will happen. If Obama wins they can keep voting in reckless bills and have the Democrats take the blame for it.

      Just wait and see what happens with Social Security.

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    22. Re:Don't worry big media, the fix is in by Frequency+Domain · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The only logical ways out of the trap are either break the two party lock by voting for someone else, or reject the current democratic process.

      False dichotomy. You can also work within the system to any number of varying degrees, which involves being willing to compromise.

      I actually think your post is indicative of a huge problem in American politics today. More and more people are advocating a rejection of democracy when they don't get their way.

    23. Re:Don't worry big media, the fix is in by eugene+ts+wong · · Score: 2

      I think in terms of how he will sell out. How will he sell out the people of the US? Maybe the RIAA will start suing the US for some crazy reason, and he'll just give in. I don't understand the system, but it will cost the tax payer. I guarantee it. The consumer will lose also.

      You're asking a question like, "Well, why would oil tycoons get involved in politics? How do they benefit the taxpayer?". I don't understand why they are supposed to benefit the taxpayer.

      I know that I made my point in the first paragraph, but I'll put it in terms of the Ghostbusters cartoon. There was an episode where 1 of the Ghostbusters [Winston?] had to play baseball with these good ghosts against these bad ghosts. All of the bad ghosts always cheated. 1 of the the observing Ghostbusters asked the umpire why he didn't do anything about the bad ghosts cheating. His answer was something like, "If they didn't cheat, then they wouldn't be evil.". Obviously, we don't have to put up with that in politics or anything else, but the view is valid. An oil tycoon and an RIAA lawyer are always going to be the same. They are always going to direct profits to their various organizations. Never ask how they might benefit us. They won't, just as those evil ghosts won't play fair. That's not their job.

      I respect them, but I also think that they should be respectfully killed for treason.

    24. Re:Don't worry big media, the fix is in by amorsen · · Score: 2

      Piracy is the reason the rest of us have to put up with DRM.

      Only if you consider it piracy to copy your CD's to your MP3 player, or using a TV to record a show to a USB stick and then moving it to your other TV to watch. Piracy limits how draconian DRM can be; eventually too many people go for the cracked unlimited content.

      Paying for content affiliated with the big players means supporting this threat to our rights. The moral choices are either pirating, not watching such content at all, or buying second hand. The last option is a bit dubious because the existence of a second hand market increases what people are willing to pay for first-hand items. "Luckily" this temptation will soon be gone, when everything is distributed online you cannot sell anything second hand.

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    25. Re:Don't worry big media, the fix is in by suomynonAyletamitlU · · Score: 2

      It doesn't matter. The only logical ways out of the trap are either break the two party lock by voting for someone else, or reject the current democratic process.

      Personally, I reject the current democratic process. Emphasis, probably, on current, but still.

      I said in another comment on another story that democracy isn't a meritocracy. That is literally the elephant in the room; everyone knows, nobody says anything or cares. I believe it comes from the founding of america when preventing the union from dissolving into warring states was a billion times more important than ability to govern; considering we only had one civil war instead of becoming another Europe, I think we did well enough.

      But a popularity contest to see who gets to screw up running the nation next, and what they do, is stupid. The elections are not set up to find the most qualified candidate, and nobody, anywhere, has any intention of changing that. It's not a question of political will or who's in power. You could even go so far as to argue that a whole lot of politics isn't about governance, it's about playing games with each other and the nation in order to win prizes.

      It can be done. There are qualified candidates, not merely for presidency, but for congress, etc. We don't currently know who they are because nobody has thought about how to find them if they aren't running, nor how to make sure we select them (as a country) over less qualified applicants. It can be done. But the huge-ass issue sitting there in the middle of the room is nobody's trying.

    26. Re:Don't worry big media, the fix is in by Culture20 · · Score: 2

      DRM was a response to piracy.

      DRM was a response to people not buying the white album again for every new audio technology. Police raids on warehouses filled with copied CDs were a response to piracy.

    27. Re:Don't worry big media, the fix is in by Ambiguous+Puzuma · · Score: 2

      You think Natalie Portman (and all those other ditzy celebrities) and most of the Kennedy himbos and bimbos actually EARNED their way into the Ivy League?

      With many celebrities you'd have a point, but Natalie Portman? You're picking on one of the few celebrities who has an Erdos number.

    28. Re:Don't worry big media, the fix is in by nomadic · · Score: 2

      Uhhhh....huh? The left wing has been furiously attacking Obama since he took office. Just like they had no problem attacking Clinton on a range of issues, including welfare reform and DADT. I've noticed that it's the right wing who tends to switch their views around depending on whether they're in power or not, not the left.

    29. Re:Don't worry big media, the fix is in by AvitarX · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Considering recent international treaty negotiations (ACTA) I think it's fair to say the US Government has strong feelings on issues re: RIAA.

      I think this appointment supports that premise.

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    30. Re:Don't worry big media, the fix is in by CyprusBlue113 · · Score: 2

      So a former vice president gets credit for inventing the internet, and this vice president can get credit for the creation of PGP! Wonderful.

      You know, I hear this crap a lot, and it really bothers me as someone who was actually involved in a lot of the process at the time. He certainly didn't invent the internet, but if it had not been his pet project, we would have never gotten to the point we are today, as it was quite a bit of his influence that led to much of the anti bell sentiment to the legislation and regulation, which if you look long term, is a significant aberration in the FCC / Congress historical record, and it certainly was reversed as much as possible once the next administration came to power. I mean look at how the FCC / Congress have done in regards to the net neutrality issue, which really is only an issue due to the actions and attitudes of the previous administration's FCC.

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    31. Re:Don't worry big media, the fix is in by Ambiguous+Puzuma · · Score: 2

      Palin has on multiple occasions demonstrated that she has a profound misunderstanding of the First Amendment. I can respect someone I disagree with, but I can't respect someone who would swear to uphold the Constitution (had she been elected Vice President) yet gets such a critical part of it so fundamentally wrong.

      http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2008/10/31/palin/index.html

      If [the media] convince enough voters that that is negative campaigning, for me to call Barack Obama out on his associations, then I don't know what the future of our country would be in terms of First Amendment rights and our ability to ask questions without fear of attacks by the mainstream media.

      http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/05/14/palin-backs-miss-calif-blasts-liberal-onslaught/

      I applaud Donald Trump for standing with Carrie during this time. And I respect Carrie for standing strong and staying true to herself, and for not letting those who disagree with her deny her protection under the nation's First Amendment Rights,

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  2. Dare to hope... by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 2

    ...prepare to be disappointed.

    1. Re:Dare to hope... by Haedrian · · Score: 2

      To be fair, when he said it was "Time for a Change" he didn't specify that it was for your betterment

  3. Re:What's the deal with Obama, anyway? by h4rm0ny · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I prefer to believe that he's a good guy, overwhelmed with work and following some very bad advice.

    Why?

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  4. Re:What's the deal with Obama, anyway? by shentino · · Score: 2

    1, he's a politician, and 2, the corporate owned media doesn't hate his guts.

    Those are your two biggest clues.

  5. Re:Why has Obama suddenly turned pro-business? by theaveng · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm stumped. Maybe Obama thinks this is what the voters want based-upon the November results, but I seriously doubt it.

    If you listen to Glenn beck or Judge Andrew Napolitano (L), you'd know he's always been pro-business, dating all the way back to when Mr. Obama met with insurance companies on the campaign trail and promised to help them make a profit via Mandatory insurance requirements for all americans.

    Also observe that most of his "czars" are either ex-financial agents of Bear-Sterns, AIG, and so on. This is Obama doing what he's always done.

    Of course if you only listen to Rachel Maddow, then you were probably unaware.

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  6. A better choice than you'd think by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 2

    Having successfully argued in favor of leveling million-dollar fines against people for downloading a handful of MP3s, he's clearly uniquely qualified for defending insane positions that cannot be rationally argued with anything but emotion.

  7. Re:What's the deal with Obama, anyway? by elrous0 · · Score: 2

    No he's a modern politician. That means that he has to spend most of his time fund-raising. And the entertainment industry are some of his biggest donors.

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  8. yes it does by unity100 · · Score: 3, Informative

    just like how other appointments in his administration turned out to be.

    1. Re:yes it does by Pojut · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I still believe that he honestly thought he would be able to accomplish everything he was saying on the campaign trail in 2007-2008...but then once he was elected, he realized how impossible that would be.

      Not saying that's right, I'm just saying that he did seem truly genuine back then.

    2. Re:yes it does by swordgeek · · Score: 3, Insightful

      As a foreigner watching US politics with interest, I have to agree. What bothers me is that he doesn't even seem to be trying to improve things. He hasn't fought very hard for anything, and he's backpedalled (preemptively!) on many HUGE issues like closing Guantanamo Bay.

      It's an uphill battle, no doubt, and he's facing some relatively popular whack-job Republicans, but dammit, he needs to FIGHT a bit.

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    3. Re:yes it does by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Informative

      The Chicago Mafia's power to extort was limited to Chicago.

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    4. Re:yes it does by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 2

      Not saying that's right, I'm just saying that he did seem truly genuine back then.

      "Sincerity is important for a politician. Once he can fake that, he's got it made."

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    5. Re:yes it does by Culture20 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      What's the difference between the Chicago Mafia and the MafiAA again?

      The Chicago Mafia's power to extort was limited to Chicago.

      Not after we elected its Don to the Oval Office.

    6. Re:yes it does by Pojut · · Score: 2

      No, I'm telling you that I was aware that HE thought he could do all those things...that's very different than BELIEVING he could.

      You don't have to be an asshole, dish...it's possible to have a civil discussion.

    7. Re:yes it does by Pojut · · Score: 2

      Oh. Nevermind. You are right. Politicians do not make promises that they do not at the time intend to keep.

      Do you have some kind of comprehension problem, or are you purposely being an ass? I didn't say politicians don't make promises they don't intend to keep, and I didn't say they don't lie. I said he wouldn't make that many promises, nor promises of that magnitude, if he was being purposely deceiteful.

      Seriously, Dish. You need to stop responding to what you want to read, and start responding to what you actually read.

    8. Re:yes it does by thenewt · · Score: 2

      Exactly. Unfortunately, U.S. presidents don't seem to come with cojones included these days. And Obama in particular must be keenly aware that the grassy knoll awaits if decides to hero up at all. I think the establishment has decided that he's already stirred things up enough just by winning the presidency, being non-white (gasp!) and suggesting change to win votes. The day I discover him effecting any genuine change in American politics will be the day I eat my fedora. In regards to this particular story, I think he's just proving again that although his platform was supported by the hip and sexy notion of online grassroots activism and all his glossy IT infrastructure ostentation, neither he nor anybody else in Washington seems to understand a damn thing about "this internet phenomenon". Washington may have invested in some new computers, but they're still dragging their heels if they feel they're getting anywhere by hiring a RIAA lapdog.

  9. Inaccurate Summary by Grond · · Score: 5, Informative

    Verrilli was not, as the summary implies, a lawyer who worked exclusively for the RIAA. Verrilli worked for Jenner & Block, one of the larger law firms in the US. The recording studios were one client of many, and it does not appear that he had a habit of representing studios. Judging by his significant Supreme Court experience, Verrilli represented a wide variety of clients, including indigent criminal defendants, a federal employee who alleged he was discriminated against because of his age, insurance agent trade groups, wireless telecommunications companies (against the FCC), Coors Brewing Company (arguing against a state law forbidding the display of alcohol content on beer), citizens alleging violations of their voting rights, and the American Libraries Association (arguing against the Communications Decency Act of 1996) .

    That's a broad set of clients, including a lot of litigation against the government, which is what the Solicitor General handles. It is absurd to impute an agenda to an attorney based on one case, and Verrilli seems qualified for the job of Solicitor General.

  10. An attorney's view by Sonny+Yatsen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You know, as an attorney, we're hired to defend vigorously the position of our clients or their interests. That doesn't necessarily mean we advocate for that position as private individuals, or that we are incapable of striking a fair position. The only thing that should matter as a nominee for a Solicitor General position is whether she can diligently represent the government's position, and that is all.

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    1. Re:An attorney's view by Buelldozer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You're asking us to risk unknowable amounts of damage to the digital freedom of the entire nation for who knows how long on the _hope_ that Mr. Verrilli won't continue to assist his former industry if he becomes Solicitor General. I'm sure it's a sweet deal for Mr. Verrilli but what's the American public getting that makes this risk worthwhile to us?

      Frankly, and please don't take this personally, your profession suffers from an image problem and for a variety of very good reasons people don't trust Attorney's. Why should Mr. Verrilli be any different?

      No, Mr. Verrilli should be rejected and someone else should be found. Preferably someone without such strong ties to such a litigious and morally corrupt industry.

  11. Re:If you voted for Obama... by jez9999 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Don't blame me; I voted for Kodos.

  12. So? by mopomi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, someone represented a company that has different ideas than you do...and that's a problem because?
    Do /.ers really believe that their employer is their sole identity defining characteristic?
    Are all of you who work for asshole-bosses also assholes?
    It sure seems that that's what you're all saying when you go on these witch-hunts.

    1. Re:So? by egcagrac0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Are all of you who work for asshole-bosses also assholes?

      A lot of them are, yes.

  13. What does this mean? by Charliemopps · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think we should look into WHY they chose him. He represents the government in front of the supreme court. His specialty is copyright law. What sort of laws or decisions do you think the administration will be enacting in the near future that they thought they'd need his services? It looks like Obama's getting ready to be challenged in court. We should expect so new draconian policies regarding the internet in the near future.

    1. Re:What does this mean? by Grond · · Score: 5, Informative

      His specialty is copyright law.

      Not particularly. As you can see from the Wayback Machine copy of his Jenner & Block profile, "Mr. Verrilli concentrates his practice on Supreme Court and appellate litigation, telecommunications, and First Amendment and media litigation....Mr. Verrilli has argued many cases in the federal courts of appeals and in state supreme courts on a range of issues, including cases involving copyright, constitutional law (involving the First Amendment, the Takings Clause and the Bill of Attainder Clause), statutory construction, administrative law and criminal law....He is an adjunct professor of constitutional law at the Georgetown University Law Center, where he has taught First Amendment law for the past 14 years."

      Copyright and media litigation were only a small part of a wide-ranging practice.

    2. Re:What does this mean? by Grond · · Score: 2

      we REALLY need to be worried about his positions on the general public's First Amendment right's to free speech, assembly, and organized dissent.

      Then you'll be happy to know that he worked for the American Library Association in conjunction with the American Civil Liberties Union to overturn the Communications Decency Act. Reno v. ACLU, 521 U.S. 844 (1997).

      That said, trying to read anything into the particular clients that an attorney has represented in the past is pointless. The Solicitor General is an attorney with the government for a client, and he or she takes his or her cues from the President. If the SG is doing his or her job, then he or she will argue the government's position regardless of his or her personal views or past clients.

  14. Re:Why has Obama suddenly turned pro-business? by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 2

    It depends on how you define pro-business. I would say that Obama is anti-business but pro-corporation. However, the only thing that has changed with Obama is his rhetoric. His policies have always favored large corporations and harmed small business.

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  15. Re:If you voted for Obama... by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 2

    you are wrong.

    many of us voted 'in his direction' but not FOR him.

    we were not (none of us) given a true choice. a truer choice would be something like:

    - vote *for* R
    - vote *for* D
    - vote *for* I1 (thru In)

    and then the discrete complements:

      - vote *against* R
      - vote *against* D
    (etc)

    and so you would tally your vote sheet to say what you felt. you may not want to put D's in office, say, but you sure as hell don't want to see R's there. with this kind of multi-attribute ballot, you could do that. would they ever consider this? NO, of course not.

    so what we have is a simplistic DUMBED DOWN ballot and we are forced to pick the least of 2 evils. this is why obama won this time. the other guys were just that much worse and we didn't want THEM in office. we knew our guys would be hell but a slightly less harsh form of hell and in slightly different ways.

    this is american politics. its not logical or reasonable or designed by 'folks like us' that can deal with multi-attrib tables and columns and really do a sort on more than one column. WE could do this, but 'we' don't get in office or run things. 'we' are always on the sidelines, noticing it but powerless to do a damned thing..

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  16. What is wrong with you people? by sirwired · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This guy was NOT the RIAAs chief counsel, or responsible for their litigation strategy against individuals. He is a lawyer who has litigated a wide range of cases, most of which have absolutely bupkis to do with the entertainment industry. In fact, it is probably his broad expertise that led to him being appointed to the job. Yes, he was the litigator for the Grokster case, which he won. I don't see how this makes him a slave to the entertainment industry. Both sides of a case are entitled to be represented by counsel; in this case, he happened to be representing a side we, Slashdot, don't particularly like.

    Just because a lawyer represents one side of a case does not mean they approve of everything (or even anything) a client does. Are we also going to claim the lawyer representing the maniac from AZ is on the side of "letting psychotic killers go free?"

  17. Re:Why has Obama suddenly turned pro-business? by twoallbeefpatties · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Of course if you only listen to Rachel Maddow, then you were probably unaware.

    If you think that Rachel Maddow doesn't hit Obama for this stuff all the time, then you're just as blindly partisan as you claim other people to be. Characters like Keith Olbermann, Arianna Huffington, and Bill Maher have been giving Obama shit since be got elected - from hiring much of Clinton's economic team with their heavy ties to the financial industry, to his backdoor meetings with healthcare providers promising not to bargain for lower bulk rates if they would support the reform bill.

    See, the funny part about all of this is that people like Glenn Beck think that Obama is a socialist, an evil plant of the far-left set out to destroy all American values, but then they turn right around and accusing him of being in the pocket of big business without the least bit of irony. The guy is a centrist, and he's clearly positioning himself to work with the Republican Congress to try and get some compromises and get some things accomplished over the next two-year period - much to the chagrin of his Rachel-Maddow-watching supporters.

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  18. Minor correction... by sirwired · · Score: 2

    His specialty as a paid litigator is IP and Telecomm law. But most of his Supreme Court cases were on other topics, including those near and dear to Slashdot hearts like civil liberties.

  19. Re:Why has Obama suddenly turned pro-business? by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 2

    I never thought I'd see the day in which a post referencing Glenn Beck* as an authoritative source would get modded up here on Slashdot of all places. Things must be bad...

    * I did listen to him 'til they took him off the air here this year - I found him entertaining. Occasionally a bit liberal with his "facts" -- a true master of contextual contortions - but entertaining in spite (or perhaps because) of that.

  20. Don't confuse legal arguments with personal belief by cigawoot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Lawyers are paid to represent their CLIENT's interests, not their own. This guy could have personally disagreed with the RIAA and the Supreme Court's ruling, but as an attorney you are obligated to represent your client in the best possible manner.

    I'm pretty sure a defense lawyer for Jarad Loughner personally believes her client is guilty and should get the chair for his crimes, but she's still obligated to defend her client as best as possible.

  21. Uffda, what a downstep... by osu-neko · · Score: 3, Funny

    He's going from defending the RIAA to defending the government. His clients get scummier every year... :p

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  22. The Corrupt Two Party System by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Those of you that vote D just to keep the R's out or R just to keep the D's out have fallen for one of the biggest scams ever in the history of this country. Take a look at the ridiculous abuses of your civil rights that continue daily with no end in sight. 9/11 got the ball rolling under the R's but the D's have not done a darn thing to curb those abuses: TSA, warrant-less wiretapping, throwing people in jail for asserting their rights . . . the list goes on and on.

    The current systems main purpose is to perpetuate itself. Not to help you in any way shape or form. If you receive some benefit from your vote this is a collateral coincidence and not the intent of the electorate.

    For the vast majority of candidates running for public office, when you elect a D or an R to office, you are just picking a particular flavor of lies and erosion of your rights. You are not making this country into a better place. You are helping to perpetuate a system that has been co-opted by special interests and legalized bribery.

    Why doesn't the FBI get sanctioned for warrant-less wire tapping of American citizens?
    Why is the TSA permitted to continue to operate as it does even though it's been proven time and time again that it's procedures and methods are woefully ineffective?

    and so on and so on.

    Wake up and smell the corrupt system.

    There is a restaurant that I like to frequent. It's a casual place and they have a number of humorous signs posted on the walls. My favorite is:

    "If voting made a difference it would be illegal"

    It's a joke but like all good humor it's the bit of truth behind it that makes it truly funny.

    Yes it's possible that you are "throwing" your vote away when you vote for someone outside the two parties. But at least you are not helping to feed the machine that doesn't give a hoot about you and your rights.

    Vote for someone/something else. When enough people do so, the system WILL change.

  23. Re:What's the deal with Obama, anyway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Because the alternative is too horrible to contemplate: it is no longer possible to elect good leaders in the USA, and the country is doomed.

    What on earth gave you the idea that Obama was a good leader, and not just cult of personality?

  24. Re:If you voted for Obama... by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 2

    If nothing else, vote for yourself.

    pardon my french, but WHAT THE FUCK does that prove?

    the issue is how to stop horrible things happening. its often the best case scenario you can hope for.

    voting 'for myself' is truly throwing my effective vote away; in fact, it does not even send any message at all!

    voting 3rd party also throws your vote away IF the goal is to stop the worst of the worst from getting in.

    if you have the luxury of saying 'none are too bad, so which one do I *like*' that's great. but that's just not my experience in this world. mostly, its 'who needs to be STOPPED' that we have to address our votes toward.

    we won't get a 3rd party candiate overnight OR EVER. get a clue how locked-up tight our broken assed system is. you think things can be fixed. I do not. I think the whole thing needs a total re-write, nothing short of that will fix it.

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  25. Re:Bush spoke more intelligently by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You know: "I don't read,"

    I don't know where you got that quote from since other quotes have him saying he was an avid reader. Indeed that seems like just the sort of out of context quote it's so easy to find about anyone if you go looking...

    Obama has said things like "there are 57 states" (and even in fact repeated that "heckuva job" line himself referring to someone else). It's easy enough to cherry-pick moments in life where someone, even at the highest levels, misspeaks. Which is why it's far better to judge what they say on average then on specific statements highlighted by others specifically to sound stupid. And on average, as noted, Bush was overall a more intelligent and better informed speaker than Obama.

    As for the credentials neither Bush's or Obama's credentials impress me BY THEMSELVES. That's the point I was making, and does not contradict anything I was saying (while at the same time also noting that Obama's credentials alone do not automatically make him smarter than someone without them).

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