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Reeves Rumors Reversed

AdmiralXyz writes "The rumor that Keanu Reeves was in talks with the Wachowski brothers to produce Matrix movies 4 and 5, in 3-D, is apparently just that. Representatives from Warner Bros. spoke to Wired and called the rumors 'bunk,' pointing out that the school Reeves was supposedly accepting an award from when he made the announcement doesn't actually exist. His publicists made similar statements. Perhaps the film deities have shown us mercy just this once."

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  1. There is a god by kimvette · · Score: 3, Insightful

    and I am thanking him right now!

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    1. Re:There is a god by Carl.E.Pierre · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't know why people hate Matrix 2/3 so much.
      Other than being one half hour too long, I thought it was a fine science-based fiction, as good as any of the classic novels (I Robot, Foundation, 2001, Ender's Game).

      Your lack of taste is appalling. Seek help!

    2. Re:There is a god by Lazareth · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Because The Matrix was a cult movie with a strong plot and some thought-provoking themes, while Matrix 2/3 was simply action flicks with good casting and shiny effects that brought nothing new to the franchise and simply churned money over it?

      The Matrix was an excellent movie of immortal value. Matrix 2/3 was merely good action movies of passing notice only because of the original =P

      I don't hate them, but I can surely see why fans of the original think they were bad for the story.

    3. Re:There is a god by kiwimate · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ?

      Why? People make movies, you don't want to see them, don't buy a ticket. You save some ridiculous amount of money and have a few hours extra to indulge in something you will enjoy. Why is that so hard?

      I don't get all this scorn and derision. If you don't like something - a movie, a web site, Fox News - ignore it. Change the channel. Isn't that what people always say when fighting for freedom of expression versus censorship? "You don't like it, you don't have to watch it."

    4. Re:There is a god by al0ha · · Score: 2

      In comparison to Bladerunner, all the Matrix movies are simply action flicks with good casting.

      The first was a stand out because it had cutting edge bitchin' special effects, like avoiding the bullets. That kicked ass. 2 and 3 had good effects, but one just stood out simply for the reason it broke new ground. Otherwise it was nothing special.

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    5. Re:There is a god by commodore6502 · · Score: 2

      >>>The Matrix was a cult movie with a strong plot and some thought-provoking themes

      Matrix 2 and 3 had thought-provoking themes too. If you don't believe me, just fast-forward past the action scenes you dislike and focus on the storyline.

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    6. Re:There is a god by Artifakt · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Both the sequels had strong, thought provoking themes, they just dealt with the parts of philosophy that make everyone today edgy. Epistemology (how do we know what we think we know is real?) Is fun but it doesn't actually provoke fistfights most of the time. If someone starts discussing how we know that what you see as green isn't what I see as blue, we'd probably both roll our eyes and make a joke about laying off the whacky tobaccy - we may pitty the person who is unsure what is real, we may worry about his sanity, but we don't (most of us) feel threatened by his statements. Universality of Ethics (Neo isn't driven by Kantian imperatives to do what is 'universally' best, but by his specific emotive commitment to just one person (Trinity, of course), to do what's best for her.), and Free will vs. Predestination (particularly the Merovingian's take on it), both still give some people fits of blinding rage when they actually get invoked in conversations (for example, some people fight quite seriously over claims that a person was made to do something bad by society, to many people that's not just philosophy, it's politics), and I won't even mention what some people in the past have done over Philosophy of Religion issues. Matrix 2 and 3 went into areas of philosophy that more people get uncomfortable with. They didn't necessarily do it well, but they did it.
            It's not even that the first one did a good job on the philosophy. Any speech about epistemology that uses such a distractingly, jarringly wrong metaphor for anyone who knows physics as Morpheus's coppertop soliloquy is certainly no better than the Merovingian's bits, and while the Architect's actions are not a really subtle, nuanced, mature commentary on how an all knowing being can allow evil either (unless you're a Gnostic and think he's representing the Demiurge, not the real God, then just maybe there's some little depth), at least there's some meaningful understatement from the actor there.

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  2. I already saw The Matrix IV by spun · · Score: 5, Funny

    They called it Inception. It wasn't very good. But Keanu looked more animated than I have ever seen him before. He must have taken acting lessons.

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  3. And once again... by SpryGuy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    And once again, a like makes it all the way around the world before the truth even gets its pants on.

    Does anyone actually verify anything any more?

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    1. Re:And once again... by gQuigs · · Score: 4, Funny

      And once again, a psot makes it all the way out of preview before proofreading gets its pants on.

      Does anyone actually proofread anything anymore?

    2. Re:And once again... by Anonymous+Cowpat · · Score: 4, Funny

      Does anyone actually proofread anything anymore?

      Just what sort of website do you think you've stumbled upon here, buddy?

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  4. Not necessarily... BUT... by denzacar · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...there sure exists strong evidence of absence of spoon.

    Or perhaps the whole thing was just a glitch.

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    1. Re:Not necessarily... BUT... by kimvette · · Score: 2

      Good point. I can recognize that there are no sequels: there is only The Matrix. Reloaded and Revolutions were merely rumors, and 4 and 5 obviously cannot exist if 2 and 3 were never made. :)

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  5. Float the rumor by Culture20 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Float the rumor, datamine the cyber-zeigeist, and somebody order me lunch; I'm starving.

    1. Re:Float the rumor by lennier · · Score: 2

      datamine the cyber-zeigeist

      But sir - the twitterati are already blogging and we've got multiple pingbacks inbound! If we don't cross-site script the XML to a recursive realtime JSON feed in the next thirty seconds we'll 404 the memebases! ALL OF THEM!

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  6. Re:4 and 5 ??? by Yvan256 · · Score: 2

    No, you're not missing anything. You know Hollywood, they can't do math. Have you seen the damages asked in their lawsuits?

    Next thing you know they'll want us to believe there was more than two Alien movies.

  7. Testing the water by Dan+East · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You know, considering it can be done totally free, I wonder if there would be value in a studio creating a false rumor like this, then surveying the public response on social networks and sites like this in order to get a feel for the market / fanbase for potential sequel?

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    1. Re:Testing the water by noidentity · · Score: 2

      Yes, it's called a trial balloon.

  8. More likely by overshoot · · Score: 2

    Perhaps the film deities have shown us mercy just this once."

    Alternately, the flood of responses gave them the idea that the public can't wait for more Matrix flix and (in the best SF paradox traditions) the horrible eventuality we sought to prevent has been caused by our own efforts.

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  9. Wachowskis by Myria · · Score: 2

    The Wachowskis aren't brothers anymore. I wish people would stop referring to them as such.

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    1. Re:Wachowskis by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2

      no matter that he no longer has a penis (the correct term: "castration").

      Don't correct people when you don't know what you're talking about.

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    2. Re:Wachowskis by spaceyhackerlady · · Score: 2

      Sad.

      If you had any idea of the hell transsexual people go through growing up you would feel differently about this.

      I went through that hell. I'm not genetically female, but I was always a girl in my heart, where it counts. Physically, I'm as female as the doctors could make me. I have to tell doctors I'm transsexual, because they can't tell.

      I'm me.

  10. Not brothers... by Low+Ranked+Craig · · Score: 4, Informative

    Larry is Lana now.

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  11. Re:4 and 5 ??? by Tetsujin · · Score: 3, Funny

    The "eleven" isn't a sequence number, it's Clooney's penis size...

    In centimeters, I guess.

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  12. Oceans 12 is this surrealist art movie... by denzacar · · Score: 2

    ...from couple of years ago.

    There is this scene with Julia Roberts pretending to be a woman who is pretending to be Julia Roberts WHILE talking on a phone to another instance of Julia Roberts pretending to be Julia Roberts.
    Kinda like this scene only a level or two more fucked up.
    Granted, Bruce Willis showing up and pretending to be JUST Bruce Willis is a bit of a letdown, but the movie makes it up in utter lack of entertainment (in the classic meaning of the word).

    Clearly, Ocean's 12 was envisioned as a critique of the entire summer blockbuster genre (they even satirized that by releasing it in December), with its overdose of stars and utter lack of coherence or meaningful plot - but apparently people failed to get the joke.
    So, they said "What the hell, let's at least make a shitload of money" and reused that same formula and made Ocean's 13.

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  13. Re:There ARE six Star Wars movies by GuruBuckaroo · · Score: 2

    You forgot the lost Han Solo movie, "Serenity".

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  14. Re:There was only one by Stregano · · Score: 3, Interesting

    He was. At the end of the 3rd movie, notice how he is laying when they pull him away. I promise you that I am one of the 17 people on the planet that love all the Matrix movies enough to explain every single scene to the "meh, blah blah blah Matrix 2 and 3 sucked" people.

    Agent Smith represented everything that was wrong with us. He would lie (example: "Oh, I am not a bad guy, once you get to know me"), gluttony (all of those Agent Smiths were not needed), murder, vanity. He represented our sins, but on an extreme "I can fly in the air and do cool moves" sort of way.

    Neo's name even represented the new changes that would come along with him, similar to Jesus. He was in love, and was soul-less enough to be willing to lose his life to save humanity (soul-less as in he was like a Jedi where you think outwardly).

    Now you may ask, "Well if Smith is sins, then sins killed Jesus?" No, Mr. You need to pay closer attention to details. The big robot head killed Neo. This is something that I explained in another post, but I am on a roll right now, so I am going to say it again. The Oracle said that Smith was Neo's counter-balance. Neo also proved that as a balance, he can merge with Smith and survive. Once Neo merged, you could see the big robot head pump electricity into Neo to kill him. If the robot head had waited, Neo would have survived.

    There needs to be balance to the equation, so if Neo takes out Agent Smith, there is no balance, so once Neo merged with Smith, to ensure they were not out of balance, the big robot head pumped Neo with electricity (that is what it looks like), effectively killing them both at the same time since at that given moment, they are partially one. Remember, it is a machine. It does not deal in chance, it deals in what needs to be done.

    So, somebody who you thought was helping you, ends up killing you, sounds like what happened to Jesus with P Pilot.

    More imagery: Agent Smith seems to take form as multiple things, and I could be wrong with some of this, but as Christian folk have told me, Demons help with sins and they are always trying to find a way into our realm of existence (Agent Smith "possessing" Bane anybody?)

    Jesus blindly helping his fellow man. They went pretty literal in the movies here.

    Come on! The human city was called Zion! Did you see how bright and Brilliant white the room was with the Gate Keepers?

    See, one of the cool things they did with the later ones that they did with the first one was even though they talked about stuff, they never really explained it. They did that alot in the first one to bring about that "Are we living in a Truman Show?" type deal. But they shifted more focus to Neo in the later 2 movies instead of concentrating on giving us this awesome "We all might be in the matrix right now" type of thinking, but the questions do not go away. How was Neo able to see without human eyes? How was he able to fight sentinels, basically, with his mind? Is Neo part robot? Is the place Neo at basically just a horrible "overflow" server that they put the people who thought they got freed (As Morpheus says, "Have you ever had a dream that was so real, that you weren't sure if you were awak or asleep?") If this is some kind of "overflow" server, does that mean that the Zionites are really programs themselves?

    We truly do not know, but the story itself still brings up these questions. I am sorry that all you paid attention to (not the person directly above me, but the people above him) were the fancy special effects. There is alot more to all 3 movies than you are seeing kids. Free your minds.



    I will stop here since this comment is nested pretty far down and chances are nobody will ever read it except for the person I replied to, but seriously, yes, the later movies had alot of special effects. They were flashy. They had action, but they did not derail from basically making Neo Jesus. Anybody who begs to differ, by all means reply to me. We can get into how the last 2 were just as good as the first one.

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  15. Not the Wachowski brothers by dbIII · · Score: 4, Funny

    The rumor that Keanu Reeves was in talks with the Wachowski brothers

    It's a different director for the next Matrix movies - Uwe Boll.
    Paris Hilton is cast as Trinity and John Travolta is playing Morpheus. It's a reboot where instead of being batteries for the machines the humans are sex toys but for ratings purposes there will be no nudity. Ahmed Best is voicing the amusing machine sidekick who helps the heroes fight the bumbling Agent Smith played by Adam Sandler.