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Ford Building Cars That Talk To Other Cars
thecarchik writes "Ford's new system works over a dedicated short-range WiFi system on a secure channel allocated by the FCC. The company says the system one-ups radar safety systems by allowing full 360-degree coverage even when there's no direct line of sight. Scenarios where this could benefit safety or traffic? Predicting collision courses with unseen vehicles, seeing sudden stops before they're visible, and spotting traffic pattern changes on a busy highway. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) reported in October that vehicle-to-vehicle warning systems could address nearly 80 percent of reported crashes not involving drunk drivers. As such, it could potentially save tens of thousands of lives per year."
In the sense of network architecture, the only way I would be even semi-okay with this would be if it really was completely decentralized and peer-to-peer. These types of systems which preach safety and security worry me, as they also could lead to large-scale privacy concerns decades down the road, since you know the various Traffic Management Authorities would jump head over heals for the ability to see real-time position of all cars on the expressway. Then a few years down the road, somebody commit's a crime in or with a car with one of these systems, a politician jumps on the new piece thinking it would make a great "brand item" for his campaign, and given a little bit of misguided legislation, BOOM. The main problem with centralizing management and data.
Though, I _am_ taking this a little far, I hope some of the things from Minority Report never come to be.
By the way, off-topic, but is the "There was an unknown error in the submission" just there for old-times sake, or did that whole thing get ignored again?
vos nescitis quicquam, nec cogitatis quia expedit nobis ut unus moriatur homo pro populo et non tota gens pereat.
...about how many lives will be saved, is that they don't take into account that once in place, people rely on them, and change their behavior accordingly. So if I feel like my car is going to alert me if I am likely to hit something, I don't feel so obliged to pay close attention to my driving -- effectively canceling out much of their effect.
It will be completely impossible for either hacked Ford computers, or any other Wifi device operated by somebody who knows hat "MAC spoofing" means, to present inaccurate, deceptive, or otherwise unhelpful information to these Ford vehicles. I, for one, take comfort in that.
FFS, dudes, trusting the client in a life-critical application? Srsly? Srsly?
Exploit 'em.
Crack 'em, hack 'em, exploit 'em...
Wipe 'em off, and do it again....
This will be a blackhat's paradise.
"Flyin' in just a sweet place,
Never been known to fail..."
There's few things more irritating to me than waiting for a red light when there are no other vehicles at an intersection.
All I want is a simple way to communicate to the traffic light to let it know that I am approaching so I don't have to stop. It seems that most automatic lights I have encountered wait until I have come to a near full stop - which partially defeats the purpose.
Implement this and then BAM - instant time savings and 3+ Miles per gallon savings for every vehicle on the road.
More importantly to me, is whether or not these are implemented using open standards.
Car-to-Car communication isn't helpful when 10% of them use FORD wireless communications, 10% have GM brand Safety wireless etc. etc.
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In other words.. those drivers who, despite not being physically impaired, nevertheless engaged in activities such as, but not limited to: tailgaiting, failing to yield right-of-way, driving too slow with reference to the speed limit and conditions, and/or performing a "rolling roadblock" by both refusing to pass the traffic to your right AND refusing to merge into the right (slow) lane so faster drivers can get past you. Those are the four most dangeous behaviors in which any driver can possibly engage. The first two directly endanger others; the last two tempt other drivers to perform dangerous maneuvers to get around a driver who has voluntarily decided to become a bottleneck. You make something tempting enough, and right or wrong, legally or illegally, drivers WILL eventually try it.
... yet they wait until the last possible moment to actually get into the left lane, despite multiple opportunities. So they cut rudely in front of other drivers, or otherwise perform a poorly planned, poorly executed maneuver. All because they couldn't plan ahead a little.
... I wonder what good these ever-sophisticated machines really are, when most of society in general and its constitutents in particular seem to accept lower standards as a sign of progress.
I suppose a distant fifth would be those drivers who just refuse to plan ahead even a little bit. For example... those drivers who know their left turn is coming up within the next 1-2 miles
If a logic-based, computer-calculated system can prevent accidents, it's only because so many accidents are 100% preventable, foreseeable, thoughtless, stupid. negligent failures to account for the knowable circumstances.
In the long run
Absolutely. Intellidrive is the name for this in the US (previously VII, Vehicle Infrastructure Initiative). The plan is to specify an open protocol, some base DOT-specific applications, and then leave the field open for others to come up with creative uses for it.
And yes, the car manufacturers are on board with this. They've agreed to implement the minimum system necessary in new model cars, and anything above the minimum system is going to be how they differentiate themselves between products.
(The system is more than just car-to-car, it's car-to-car and car-to-infrastructure)
There's few things more irritating to me than waiting for a red light when there are no other vehicles at an intersection. All I want is a simple way to communicate to the traffic light to let it know that I am approaching so I don't have to stop. It seems that most automatic lights I have encountered wait until I have come to a near full stop - which partially defeats the purpose.
Implement this and then BAM - instant time savings and 3+ Miles per gallon savings for every vehicle on the road.
The solution already been invented, and doesn't even require high-tech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundabout
You are full of bullshit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universally_unique_identifier#Random_UUID_probability_of_duplicates
Don't quote me on this.