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Want Your Own Bunker Like WikiLeaks Or Pirate Bay?

talljamesnixon writes "Fancy starting up your own secure ISP? A bomb-proof Cold War nuclear bunker like the ones that hosted The Pirate Bay and WikiLeaks has come on the market for just £400,000 ($635,000). Situated several metres under the rolling hills of Scotland, the Cultybraggan bunker cost £30 million to build, has space for 150 staff and includes its own BBC studio, canteen, telephone exchange and dormitories."

54 comments

  1. Dormitories !!!! by unity100 · · Score: 1

    working in such a pirate outfit, in a nuclear bunker, with a lot of geeks, and living in dormitories !!!!

    OH BOY !!!

    1. Re:Dormitories !!!! by Canazza · · Score: 1

      BBC canteens, blech. There's a really good chippy in Callendar. Don't know what they'd think if they got an order for 500 Black Pudding Suppers to the secret underground bunker though.

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  2. Make a great bachelor pad... by olsmeister · · Score: 3, Funny

    ISP? Hell, I want to live there! Just think of the parties you could throw.

    1. Re:Make a great bachelor pad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Think of the parties you could overthrow!

    2. Re:Make a great bachelor pad... by StikyPad · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yes, nothing screams fun like bringing a girl into the middle of a seemingly empty field around dusk.

    3. Re:Make a great bachelor pad... by Gaygirlie · · Score: 1

      Hell, I don't care about parties, I have always dreamed of a god damn nuclear bunker of my own!! Geesh, I'd buy that this instant if I had the money :D

    4. Re:Make a great bachelor pad... by Locke2005 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Speaking of screams, nobody will be able to hear hers when she's "several metres under the rolling hills of Scotland". Sounds like the perfect place for an S&M dungeon... whether or not it's consensual is up to you!

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    5. Re:Make a great bachelor pad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      http://www.missilebases.com/

    6. Re:Make a great bachelor pad... by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      Just make sure it has room for all your minions AND a shark tank!

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    7. Re:Make a great bachelor pad... by Tiger_Storms · · Score: 1

      Inside a bunker so no one can hear her scream.

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    8. Re:Make a great bachelor pad... by MoonBuggy · · Score: 1

      I dunno, it seems to be in the arse end of nowhere (well, an hour and a half out of Edinburgh, anyway...) - I'd like my super awesome party bunker to be a little more centrally located.

    9. Re:Make a great bachelor pad... by camperdave · · Score: 1

      I'd buy that this instant if I had the money :D

      Same here. Do they deliver?

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    10. Re:Make a great bachelor pad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you mean bunker parties? The best parties, because they never stop?

    11. Re:Make a great bachelor pad... by definate · · Score: 1

      I know masochists like pain, but I think most would find it punishment enough just being in Scotland.

      They'd enter it for a second, reach their pain threshold, and immediately start screaming their safe word.

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    12. Re:Make a great bachelor pad... by Doggabone · · Score: 1

      Hell, I don't care about parties, I have always dreamed of a god damn nuclear bunker of my own!! Geesh, I'd buy that this instant if I had the money :D

      I've never wanted a bunker, but I've often wished I had enough money to buy one.

  3. let's call a spade a spade! by Thud457 · · Score: 2

    one basement looks just like any other!

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    1. Re:let's call a spade a spade! by SnarfQuest · · Score: 1

      Until you find that hidden hatch which leads down to lower, forgotten levels. With umbrellas painted on the floor. And twisted metal cages. With ammo and weapons scattered randomly, or that you have to take off the (hopefully) dead bodies...

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    2. Re:let's call a spade a spade! by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      Can I build a house for my mum up top?

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    3. Re:let's call a spade a spade! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But on this basement you can make your own, high quality BBC programme with the more beautiful part the laid off staff of the BBC. Just think of the children of the future!

  4. Cheap Bond Villain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I live In Australia and that price tag is cheaper than the local housing, and no, I am not in Sydney or Melbourne.
    I would buy this in a heart beat, get a white cat and a tank of sharks. Start a career as a super villain on the cheap.

    1. Re:Cheap Bond Villain by metalmaster · · Score: 1

      for just a small added fee you could get the sharks with laser beams attached to their freakin' heads

    2. Re:Cheap Bond Villain by peragrin · · Score: 1

      that's only in Israeli made bunkers. After all the Mossad can train sharks to attack beaches.

      It must be true I read it on the internet.

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    3. Re:Cheap Bond Villain by BluBrick · · Score: 1

      I live In Australia and that price tag is cheaper than the local housing, and no, I am not in Sydney or Melbourne. I would buy this in a heart beat, get a white cat and a tank of sharks. Start a career as a super villain on the cheap.

      I hear waterfront property in Brisbane is pretty cheap at the moment.




      Too soon?

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    4. Re:Cheap Bond Villain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While it's not quite true at current housing prices, here in California (USA), that would buy between 1 and 3 houses depending on what major city you're talking about. Sacramento 200-300k is still about average, but San Francisco, Los Angeles, or San Jose 400-600k is the low end.

  5. Mom's Basement.... by MoldySpore · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...never looked so awesome. Although including a lifetime supply of Doritos and Snacky-cakes would sweeten the deal to where all the 30-somethings still living at home wouldn't be able to resist.

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  6. Cheeper option also avalible... by s0litaire · · Score: 4, Informative

    There's one or 2 of these on the market every few years...

    Here's an old Radar base up for sale for £250k

    http://www.secretscotland.org.uk/index.php/Secrets/InverbervieCEWRadarStation

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  7. Re:Nuclear Armageddon by miknix · · Score: 1

    Sure it does look like our P2P servers will last longer than humanity in the case of a nuclear Armageddon. : P

  8. It's a buyer's market by miller60 · · Score: 5, Informative

    There's actually been a bit of a boom in these underground data bunkers in recent years, but there are also plenty of "nuke-proof" data center projects projects that have failed due to cost issues. It's more challenging than you think to prepare a subterranean environment to meet the standards for hosting servers for enterprises - who are usually the target customers due to the high cost of finishing the space. There are plenty of old military facilities available for retrofits, including one that's been listed on eEBay a few times. But the old military facilities are now competing against caves - the state of Missouri has been trying to pass economic incentives to convince developers to covnert the state's many limestone caves into disaster recovery centers.

    1. Re:It's a buyer's market by swb · · Score: 1

      Do they actually put things like power generation underground? I can see where that would add a ton of complexity (emissions, fuel storage, fire suppression, air intake) and that's assuming the topside isn't overly hostile (ie, radiation, active military combat, etc) and you can tap it for air supply, water supply, etc.

      Whenever I've seen the topic covered, it always seems like it makes more sense to build larger empty areas underground (or use pre-existing ones in caverns) and then fill those areas with mobile-home type structures so you have less work to do trying to deal with moisture, air quality and so on.

  9. Been there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've actually been in that bunker a few years ago when I was in the cadets at school - was great fun getting to explore it; although it was more fun getting to play with a fully automatic rifle in a shooting range ;)

  10. GREAT! by Y-Crate · · Score: 2

    I can buy this, and then brag to the other cults that it's SO much better than THEIR end of the world refuges.

  11. Cultybraggan is party central by Chelmet · · Score: 1

    I've spent numerous weeks training at Cultybraggan with the OTC, though never got to see inside the bomb shelter. That would have made for some amazing piss-ups.

  12. I'll buy it by SnarfQuest · · Score: 3, Funny

    How much will shipping to the US cost?

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    1. Re:I'll buy it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It depends, do you want it shipped by overnight air or standard ground shipping?

  13. Location, location, location by tverbeek · · Score: 1

    It's not a bad location, actually. Not too far from Edinburgh or Glasgow, for when you want to do big-city things, but on the edge of the Highlands, for when you want some nice scenery. And of course a bunker at your feet for when you want to be left alone. Win, win, win!

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    1. Re:Location, location, location by Locke2005 · · Score: 3, Funny

      And if you ever get lonely, there are lots and lots of nearby sheep!

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  14. that fireplace... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I want to put all my servers next to the fireplace. Just for safety's sake.

  15. Caves nothing, Limestone Quarries by Tekfactory · · Score: 2

    I used to work with a facility 100 feet underground, it was an old limestone quarry, more like a mine really. Anyhow they have these all over the St. Louis area, most of them are used for warehouse space. They are a constant temp about 68F and constant humidity.

    The biggest problem we had was Limestone dust, it got into everything, killed dozens of hard drives. Once we got filtered air to an enclosed space everything was fine. Power seemed to be good most of the time, we still had UPS units. The only other big issue was getting new circuits to the demarc, if you're having one put in, have them run as many lines as you can afford, getting new ones takes a while.

    Lastly you need borderline submariners to work there, no windows, nothing but artifical light, its psychological but some folks can't take it. I was there one week while they were recruiting and one gal quit on her first day.

  16. Photos by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 3, Informative

    Anyone wanting to see some photos of the place can look here:

    - http://www.scottish-places.info/features/moregpix7987.html
    - http://www.secretscotland.org.uk/index.php/Secrets/Cultybraggan

    There are also some videos on YouTube.

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  17. Wrong picture by Locke2005 · · Score: 2

    That picture is of the mess hall in a nissen hut in the camp, not of the interior of the bunker!

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    1. Re:Wrong picture by aardwolf64 · · Score: 1

      I was wondering why their server rack was in a fireplace...

    2. Re:Wrong picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was wondering why there was a fireplace in a fallout shelter.

    3. Re:Wrong picture by multipartmixed · · Score: 1

      I was wondering why there would be a fireplace in an underground bunker.... Carbon Monoxide poisoning would be an omnipresent risk.

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  18. How about a Old NORAD BASE 3 Story Underground by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Even Better North Bay Ontario has a HUGE Underground complex looking to be decommissioned by the FEDS. http://www.buttonvilleflyingclub.com/index.php?q=gallery&g2_itemId=2790 TOUR the Underground

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CFB_North_Bay

    With the formation of NORAD in the 1950s and the US's introduction of the SAGE system, CFB North Bay was selected as the Canadian counterpart to the US's Cheyenne Mountain control center. A SAGE installation was set up at the base starting in 1959, but unlike their US counterparts which were at ground level, in North Bay the entire standard three story installation was buried underground in what became known as "the hole". Later the base was also used as the control center for the Ontario portion of the two-site BOMARC missile system installed in the 1960s.

    1. Re:How about a Old NORAD BASE 3 Story Underground by loufoque · · Score: 1

      Much more impressive for sure, but you missed the point: it is not for sale, and if it were it wouldn't be at such an affordable price.

  19. OR by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    Just live someplace no one is likely to bother bombing...

    It's probably a lot cheaper.

    1. Re:OR by MostAwesomeDude · · Score: 1

      OR? Oregon's not exactly a bomb-proof place, unfortunately. Portland, OR is one of the three good West Coast spots to drop a nuke. Intel's here, Linux is here (technically, Linux is in Corvallis, but still), and we're in range of ICBMs from the other side of the Rim.

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  20. Meh. Mine's a lot nicer. by TrentTheThief · · Score: 1

    Theirs doesn't have a jacuzzi and lacks basic amenities such as steam showers and nuclear reactor.

  21. Good home for Slashdot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously, if you wanted a 'continental footprint', /. could move in there. I want to keep my net connection in North America, so I don't think I would find this bunker useful. I will have to read the article to find out what it also includes, like water (plumbing), power, access to roads, heat/cooling facilities, and local internet trunk lines. The blurb also doesn't say boo about square feet/square meters of space, and how solid the building currently remains. Extras might include distance to local amenities, although being in Scotland I would expect that there might be a pub or place to get some good Scotch Whisky nearby. Also proximity to night life (birds) might be a good thing to know, especially if you have a bunker full of geeks: it already has 'the parents basement' feel to it, but you might want to let them out and feel awkward somewhere, therefore the pub, birds, etc.

  22. Enjoy freezing. I'll be in the Keys. by Talisman · · Score: 1

    You can have your cold, dark Scottish bunker. I'll be sitting in my hurricane-proof reinforced to withstand a 20-megaton blast at a range of 2.5 miles down in Key Largo:

    http://www.co-buildings.com/southeast/305/key_largo_1.jpg

    Yes, it even has an ocean view. Two, really, since if you look east you see the Atlantic, and if you look west you see the Gulf of Mexico.

    Haggis vs. Coconut Shrimp
    Stella vs. Corona
    Whiskey vs. Margaritas
    Pale vs. Tan
    Highlands women vs. college girls on spring break

    Yeah, you can keep your bunker.

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  23. Can it protect against raids and subpoenas? by gtirloni · · Score: 1

    Sorry, the major threat facing ISPs and entities that defy governments is the plain old subpoena. If they ever try to bomb your bunker, you'll already be in a legal shit hole.

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  24. With a chimney? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd buy it for the culty braggin' name alone, but... a nuclear bunker with a chimney? Is that for collecting the fallout?

  25. This is slashdot worthy? by gravis777 · · Score: 2

    While cool, its not all THAT uncommon. There are tons of these scattered around the US and other countries. Shoot, I know someone who owns one, and moved his electronics company there. Been in it a few times.

    Problem is, these bunkers are usually out in the middle of nowhere, and not in the best of condition. Once you purchase from the US government, you have to fix it up (my friend had several water pumps to pump out where water leaked into it), then you have to pay a buttload to get halfway decent internet out there. If you are going to be running an ISP, you are probably going to be sinking twice the amount of the bunker, or more, into retrofitting and fiber lines to the nearest major city.

    Most people who have these simply have them for the "whoa, cool" factor.

    1. Re:This is slashdot worthy? by gravis777 · · Score: 1

      - Or Scottish government, or UK government, or whatever they are, in the case of this story