Slashdot Mirror


Sony Sends DMCA Takedown Notice To GitHub

Plombo writes "Sony's war against PS3 hacking continues. On January 27, Sony Computer Entertainment America sent a DMCA takedown notice to GitHub demanding the removal of 6 repositories under the 'circumvention device' clause of the DMCA. All of the repositories in question were related to jailbreaking or homebrew development for the PS3."

34 of 266 comments (clear)

  1. They should file a counter-notice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They should file a counter-notice, citing the interoperability clauses :)

  2. That was fast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Perhaps the real news should be how quickly github caved and removed all of the projects in question.

    1. Re:That was fast by Plombo · · Score: 5, Informative

      On the other hand, as a response to Sony's takedown notice, they started posting all of their DMCA takedown notices publicly. That's what enabled me to find this information in the first place.

    2. Re:That was fast by hedwards · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Basically what's going on is that Sony had their attorneys file a fraudulent take down request. Github will look at it and probably put the materials back online in the near future. Right now they're pretty clearly commiting perjury
      Question: What are the notice and takedown procedures for web sites?

      Question: What are the notice and takedown procedures for web sites?

      Answer: In order to have an allegedly infringing web site removed from a service provider's network, or to have access to an allegedly infringing website disabled, the copyright owner must provide notice to the service provider with the following information:

              The name, address, and electronic signature of the complaining party [512(c)(3)(A)(i)]
              The infringing materials and their Internet location [512(c)(3)(A)(ii-iii)], or if the service provider is an "information location tool" such as a search engine, the reference or link to the infringing materials [512(d)(3)].
              Sufficient information to identify the copyrighted works [512(c)(3)(A)(iv)].
              A statement by the owner that it has a good faith belief that there is no legal basis for the use of the materials complained of [512(c)(3)(A)(v)].
              A statement of the accuracy of the notice and, under penalty of perjury, that the complaining party is authorized to act on the behalf of the owner [512(c)(3)(A)(vi)].

      Once notice is given to the service provider, or in circumstances where the service provider discovers the infringing material itself, it is required to expeditiously remove, or disable access to, the material. The safe harbor provisions do not require the service provider to notify the individual responsible for the allegedly infringing material before it has been removed, but they do require notification after the material is removed.

    3. Re:That was fast by jopsen · · Score: 3

      Perhaps the real news should be how quickly github caved and removed all of the projects in question.

      Agree... The fact that github can be bullied around like this is pretty upsetting...
      By the way, may I suggest that someone prints these numbers in a newspaper... Either through a letter to the editor, or in an ad, how hard can that be...

  3. Online assets? There are better ways than that. by laughingcoyote · · Score: 4, Informative

    Screw their "online assets." The link to the contact list of offices for the law firm responsible is right here. Sony's corporate contact numbers are here. I suggest that each of their offices should receive a good few calls Monday, letting them know what we think about free speech and about restraining it.

    It takes a lot fewer calls to pull off a denial of service than it takes packets.

    --
    To fight the war on terror, stop being afraid.
  4. Re:wow. they are upsetting pretty dangerous crowds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    arent they. the real hacker underground is intertwined with open source. targeting the places where these crowds regular, is not something wise.

    but morons which are dubbed as lawyers in some countries naturally would have no idea about that. they got too much used to bullying defenseless citizens through law.

    i wonder what will they do to sony's online assets.

    Nothing. Stop dramatizing.

  5. Re:All Exploits by hedwards · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Doesn't matter whether it does or not, precedence indicates that this is protected speech. Or at least that's what the courts said about DeCSS, and this even less ambiguously speech. Not to mention that Sony doesn't get to file a DMCA take down notice on this as the code they're requesting be taken down doesn't belong to them. The key itself isn't subject to copyright.

  6. Re:what will they do where there is no DMCA? by DurendalMac · · Score: 3, Interesting

    THIS. Anyone hosting DMCA-questionable content should damned well get a server offshore in a country that doesn't care about IP laws and then be sure to take every step to keep their real identity separate from it. I hear Russia is a good place...

  7. Re:All Exploits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    The notice they filed isn't about copyright infringement, so it doesn't matter, that the code is not theirs, nor would it make sense for the code to be theirs. The claim they're making is that those repositories contain circumvention devices. I'd imagine the takedown isn't a big deal at all, as whoever put the code on GitHub has a complete copy of the history on their own machines.

  8. Dirty Tricks by index0 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you google "sony geohot $1" http://www.google.ca/search?q=sony+geohot+%241 you will get some info along the lines that Sony tried to paypal George Hotz $1 dollar ("Attached hereto as Exhibit DD is true and correct copy of a redacted PayPal receipt from George Hotz, using an account registered to..." from http://psx-scene.com/forums/attachments/f6/23998d1294899764-scea-vs-geohot-day-2-more-files-day-3-now-over-more-files-added-04-pdf ). You can imagine why Sony did this ...

  9. Re:All Exploits by BLKMGK · · Score: 3, Informative

    Would this be the same courts that reamed 2600 magazine for LINKING to deCSS code?

    --
    Build it, Drive it, Improve it! Hybridz.org
  10. Re:git clone time by Plombo · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's already been done for the original repositories; they've been uploaded to Gitorious, which is hosted outside of the US. A remaining problem, though, is that all forks of the repositories were also taken down. Those weren't uploaded to Gitorious, and there were too many of them to count.

  11. Re:All Exploits by QuoteMstr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    All right --- Sony appears to be guilty of perjury after filing a takedown notice for someone else's work.

    Who is going to do something about it? Selective enforcement is wonderful, isn't it? If Sony succeeds in this, it'll embolden others to file takedown notices against anything they dislike for any reason whatsoever.

  12. DMCA? FOAD. by Sarusa · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hay Sony. I think I'm gonna circumvent you now. Seriously regretting buying that PS3.

  13. Re:All Exploits by hedwards · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Yes, but they don't have a leg to stand on otherwise. It's been settled since all that DeCSS stuff that code is protected by the 1st amendment. So the only way that they could file a takedown notice here would be if they owned the copyright to it.

    Sony can't legally file the takedown as they have to state under penalty of perjury that there is no legal use for the software that they want taken down.

  14. How the mighty have fallen... by Just+Brew+It! · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Back in the day, Sony was a pretty cool company. They made affordable audio equipment with decent performance for the price; through high school and college, my turntable (vinyl LPs... remember them?) was a Sony. I also remember my first Sony Walkman cassette portable (early 1980s) and CD DiscMan with great fondness; Sony pretty much single-handedly invented the portable audio industry. My first camcorder was a Sony too, and I enjoyed the PlayStation and PlayStation 2 immensely.

    Somewhere along the line, they lost their way. Maybe it had something to do with their transformation into a combination of consumer electronics giant and content provider; I'm not sure. But the CD rootkit fiasco was an indication of where they were heading. My opinion of them also took a nosedive when my second Sony camcorder (purchased around 6 years ago) turned out to be a piece of crap.

    These days, they are solidly on my "avoid" list. I used to consider a Sony nameplate to be a badge of quality; now it is more of a warning label.

    1. Re:How the mighty have fallen... by Blue_Wombat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Absolutely. I used to own a lot of their gear - including a walkman, a beta VCR (that dates me!) and a very expensive trinitron screen. I was quite a Sony fanboi in my day. Now I loathe and detest them - CD rootkit, mania for proprietary connectors, lying about Minidisc "playing" MP3s, what they did to LikSang, the rootkit, DRM mania, retroactive removal of freatures people had paid for (OtherOS), being behind the RIAA, being behind the MPAA...... the list goes on and on. They actively hate and screw over their own customers, their product is overpriced, and their legendary quality is a didtant memory. Now just I regard Sony as the vermin of the consumer electronics industry, with products that are defective by design, and I avoid them like the plague. I successfully warn numerous other people off their overpriced DRMed rubbish as well. NB: to /. mods - can we have the old interface back please? The new one is *horrible*

  15. Re:To laughingcoyote by laughingcoyote · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm not giving out any Sooper Seekrit information, just stuff that's on a public website. If it's illegal to "incite" people to protest things by speaking to the parties responsible, then it's even worse than I thought.

    --
    To fight the war on terror, stop being afraid.
  16. Talk about a double standard by surfdaddy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sony entertainment had no problems a few years ago fubaring up my XP system by installing a rootkit after I inserted one of their music CD's. Seems they can care less about us, but don't reveal their precious encryption keys.

    Between all that and their proprietary memory in digital cameras, I avoid ALL thinks Sony. They aren't worth the time. So sad a former leader of technology has descended so low.

  17. Re:All Exploits by 644bd346996 · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's not a real takedown. It's a normal cease-and-desist letter, and even if it were a real takedown notice, it's only perjury if the person submitting it isn't authorized to act on behalf of the person claiming ownership of a work being infringed. Neither the copyright holder or his lawyer are guilty of perjury if the copyright holder lies to his lawyer (or is mistaken) and thus causes a frivolous takedown notice to be sent.

  18. start mirroring. by lkcl · · Score: 4, Informative

    all but GaiaManager can be found here:
    http://gitorious.org/ps3free

    there's also a story:
    http://www.ps3-hacks.com/2011/01/29/dmcaed-ps3-git-repositories-cloned/

    but the site is a bit... busy right now.

  19. Re:All Exploits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Not that there's "no legal use"... just that its primary purpose is illegal. The Other-OS-to-piracy link is pretty straightforward to lawyers.

  20. Re:The cat...... by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Because they don't care about customers who don't buy games? And why should they? Why should you care about unprofitable customers?

  21. Re:All Exploits by Nursie · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's all gone back up at gitorious anyway, which is based in Norway and harder to fuck with.

  22. Re:All Exploits by anomaly256 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Which is most unfortunate as it is complete hogwash in practice. Pirates are using psjailbreak devices, not OtherOS. OtherOS doesn't facilitate piracy of any kind. Nor does Asbestos. Nor do the 'Open' SDKs. The clear and obvious fact that everyone seems to be missing is that piracy continues completely unabated by the legal actions of Sony or the censorship it's trying to enforce. People really need to stop confusing these 2 issues as being the same thing.

  23. Github won't put them back online. by Otis_INF · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Do you really think Github can afford a lengthy trial with mammoth Sony? Not in a million years. The legal team of Sony will bury Github's with so many documents they either have to give up or will lose.

    Big corporations have big law departments. The only purpose of these law departments, which cost a lot of money each year, is to make life as easy as possible for the employer, Sony in this case. This means: they'll do everything they can to make the life of the opponent as miserable as possible: lawsuits, burying with massive amounts of documents etc. Github doesn't have a chance.

    --
    Never underestimate the relief of true separation of Religion and State.
    1. Re:Github won't put them back online. by smallfries · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually GitHub can have every chance. What they needed to do in this case was simple enough. Contact the owner of the repository and hand over the responsibility to them. If the owner decides that Sony has acted badly and made an incorrect claim then GitHub is cleared of any legal responsibility and can put the work back online.

      The procedure is explained at Chilling Effects. Although the DMCA is widely detested, one of the (only?) things that it does get right is that the legal battle is not between Sony and Github. If Github comply then they get to step to one side with any liability.

      --
      Slashdot: where don knuth is an idiot because he cant grasp the awesome power of php
  24. Not the land of the free by business_kid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When faced with the threat of continuing legal bills for asserting your rights, the pragmatic thing to do is comply. The Net is not the anonymous place we all thought it was. It seems America is not the land of the free unless you can afford to pay for it! Note to self: Make sure to have multiple legislatures for any controversial site I put up. E.G. service registered in country A, selling into country B and located in country C :-D.

  25. Re:All Exploits by shentino · · Score: 3, Informative

    First of all, Universal WON that DeCSS case, so it's actually unfavorable.

    Second, Sony can file any takedown notice they darn please. All they have to worry about is how much trouble they'll get in if they're caught.

  26. Re:All Exploits by shentino · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If corporations like it, it's not good for you.

  27. Re:All Exploits by 644bd346996 · · Score: 4, Informative

    According to the law at issue, the only portion of a DMCA takedown notice that is under penalty of perjury is that the person filing it is authorized to act on behalf of the copyright owner alleging infringement.

    For a DMCA takedown counter-notice, the poster needs to assert under penalty of perjury that they have a good faith belief that the takedown was a mistake or misidentification. The lack of a requirement that the party issuing the takedown make a similar statement of belief under penalty of perjury is the real bullshit here, as it violated the principle of equal protection under law.

  28. Re:All Exploits by roystgnr · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's been settled since all that DeCSS stuff that code is protected by the 1st amendment.

    The DeCSS case specifically was "settled" exactly the opposite way. Freedom of speech didn't do jack to help the glider or bnetd authors either.

  29. Re:All Exploits by russotto · · Score: 4, Informative

    Uh... it cites the DMCA act and specifically sites the anti-circumvention clause as grounds for removal.

    That's how DMCA takedown notices are made.

    No. A DMCA takedown notice is a specific type of notice which follows the provisions of 17 USC 512. The anti-circumvention provisions are a completely separate part of the DMCA, codified in 17 USC 1201. And the DMCA does not provided a process for filing a takedown notice for circumvention devices.