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Nook Color Is Now a $250 Honeycomb Tablet

Barnes & Noble markets the Nook Color as an e-reader with tablet functionality handily built in, but that designation undersells it a bit — it's just as easy to see it as an Android tablet with a 7" multitouch display and a Cortex A8 processor that happens to have strong book-reading features. Compared to the current big name in 7" Android tablets, Samsung's Galaxy Tab, it's quite underspec'd (no camera or GPS receiver, Wi-Fi but no 3G), but it also costs only $250. A few days ago, Android hackers managed to put Android 3.0 (Honeycomb) onto the Color, though in a mostly crippled state. Now Liliputing points out that they've enabled hardware acceleration, too. Pretty neat that one of the cheapest capacitive-screen tablets you can get handles an operating system that a few weeks back was expected to require heavier iron. As comments at Engadget point out, it's not the very smoothest performance, but this is an early build by enthusiasts, and doesn't look too shabby. The developer's announcement of the port points out that this is a work in progress: "What is not working... pretty much everything else, no accelerometer, no wlan, no sound. Haven't started working on those things yet."

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  1. So... by orphiuchus · · Score: 2

    They found a very complex way to break a Nook Color?

    1. Re:So... by Z00L00K · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Hacking the ebook readers may be the only way to make them really useful.

      Scientific American had an article about the the E-Readers; The Trouble with E-Readers, by David Pogue, where they essentially says that they are a hype.

      However I see a problem with the ebook, and that is that if you break your reader or run out of battery (either will happen eventually) then the books you have will be unreadable. Breaking a paper book doesn't make it unreadable, and at worst you have to re-glue the pages but usually a piece of tape is sufficient.

      And if you buy a paper book then your kids can read it too, but will the ebook reader and the books it contains survive that long?

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    2. Re:So... by click2005 · · Score: 2

      I meant to say the Galaxy Tab is too expensive and has far too many features I dont want (like 3G).

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    3. Re:So... by click2005 · · Score: 2

      The Archos 7" tablet is over $400 to here but it does have bluetooth (great for room based automation).

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    4. Re:So... by tepples · · Score: 2

      Onboard 3G is the only way Google will officially allow Android Market access for any Android device sold in the United States. (Samsung Galaxy Player isn't available here.) PDAs like the Archos 43 must stick to AppsLib.

    5. Re:So... by peragrin · · Score: 2

      which is yet another reason why android marketplace is hurting.

      i don't want to pay another $30 a month for more datacaps. Finding a wifi point is fairly easy even in small towns.

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    6. Re:So... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      Why can't these little tablets be really really cheap?

      Because they don't have to be. Yet.

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    7. Re:So... by Miamicanes · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Check eBay, it's littered with sub-600MHz Android tablets with barely enough flash to hold 1.6, barely enough ram to boot, no Android Market, and likely to spend most of their lives as... digital picture frames, because most users aren't masochistic enough to suffer with them for more than a few days once the novelty wears off.

      Don't write them off, though. They might be useless as general-purpose Android devices, but they're cheap enough to use as single-purpose devices (home theater remotes, family photo albums, home automation controllers, interactive cookbooks, etc) whose ultimate use just happens to have not been carved in stone (etched in silicon?) at the factory.

      Nevertheless, if you really want a general-purpose Android tablet to play with NOW, don't touch ANYTHING that doesn't ship with 2.1 or better, have a 1GHz or faster CPU, enough battery life to actively use for 3-4 hours, and still have enough of a charge after laying ("off") on a table or sofa cushion for a day or two to use for 5-10 minutes before you HAVE to put it back on the charger. Try to find one that has 1280x800 or better resolution, because that's the magic point where you can almost read two O'Reilly-sized pages side by side from a pdf file. Not coincidentally, demanding better than 480x800 ALSO happens to weed out most of the tablets that are too slow/limited to be worth bothering with right now.

      Oh, and just to warn everyone... don't buy a Galaxy Tab unless you're absolutely delighted with it as it exists RIGHT NOW, because Samsung has already fucked millions of customers who made the mistake of buying a Captivate, Vibrant, Epic4G, Fascinate, or Mesmerize. Maybe it's Samsung's fault, maybe it's the carriers' fault, but either way, if you buy a Galaxy Tab, it's coming from Sprint, Verizon, AT&T, Verizon, or some regional carrier. If they don't even care enough about their millions of PHONE customers to upgrade them to Froyo and fix the goddamn dysfunctional GPS, does anyone really think they're going to pay more attention to a few hundred thousand tablet purchasers?

    8. Re:So... by zippthorne · · Score: 2

      Um.. what are you talking about? If you break your eReader, when you buy another one, you associate it to your account and re-download everything. At least, that's how it works with Nook and Kindle. What happens if your basement gets flooded and all your books in storage are ruined by mold?

      And in the meantime, you can associate other devices to your account (like the iPad that won't work with Sony's device...) and view your books on those (again, with Nook and Kindle, that is.) Barnes and Noble will even helpfully sync the last page read across all devices running nook software (on purchased books...) which can connect to the internet, so you can read on ePaper during the day and on your backlit iPad at night, if you so choose.

      And it takes a lot of page-turns to drain the battery of an ebook reader. Basically, an entire book worth.

      The sci-am article is bullshit: eBook readers fill a niche; they have drawbacks AND benefits, and those benefits are significant for people who like to read novels. They're less beneficial to people who like to collect books, though. (would you rather read "The Great Gatsby" or be the "great" Gatsby?)

      Which reminds me.. the last ebook I read came from my town Library. It worked almost like a regular book, except that I didn't have to handle the standard bulky hard-cover book that libraries seem to favor and cover in that finger-print revealing, icky-feeling cellophane.

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    9. Re:So... by zippthorne · · Score: 2

      Oh yeah, I can't tell you how many times I find myself in assorted foreign countries. That's definitely a problem most people will have in their daily lives.

      eBooks aren't a religion. If you find yourself with a broken reader in a country with no compatible eBook readers and a need to read.. then find a local solution. Maybe buy a regular book.

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    10. Re:So... by RogerWilco · · Score: 2

      I have only read one book that was physically over 100 years old (Eene aanmerkelijke luchtreis, 1813 W.Bilderdijk), but I have read many that were printed 50 or more years ago. Most of them originally owned by my parents or grandparents. Jules Verne, Old Shatterhand, Sherlock Holmes, Asimov's Foundation is from 1951. Hell, "2001: A Space Odyssey" is already 43 years old.

      I can name many more, but most of them are from Dutch writers that would probably not mean anything to you. The oldest book I currently own myself is printed in 1912 and maybe 50-60 that are over 50 years old. My parents and grandparents have many more, a lot of which I read and enjoyed. Most of the books I own were printed in the last 30 years, I do tend to buy books quite a lot second hand, I think about 50%. I think I have read at least half of the books I own more than once.

      Once a book has been published, a new edition is usually just as good as one that was printed years ago. It's not like a Lord of the Rings printed in the fifties is in any way different from one printed yesterday. I can only see an argument for wanting a more recent edition when you read something in translation.

      I hope my children will read these books one day.

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    11. Re:So... by Yosho · · Score: 3, Informative

      And it takes a lot of page-turns to drain the battery of an ebook reader. Basically, an entire book worth.

      For what it's worth, my Kindle, at least, is way better than that. I've never let it get completely drained, but I have gone on trips where I've read through 3 or 4 lengthy novels and only seen the battery go down to 50% or so.

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  2. Re:Not really by Threni · · Score: 2

    > The minimum spec for Android Honeycomb is a dualcore Tegra 2 (A9) chip.

    You'll struggle to find a citation for that. Don't bother with the rumours sites please - something from Google would be great.

  3. great low-cost tablet by Speare · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have no interest in paying separate 3G fees or contracts, and I already have an Android phone. So I thought the NOOKcolor would be a great way of playing some games and reading some free e-books on long airplane flights.

    I bought one, and within an hour had it rooted, replaced the sucky built-in "Home" activity with LauncherPro, replaced the sucky built-in soft keyboard with Smart Keyboard Pro, and re-mapped the hardware volume buttons into the missing hardware MENU and BACK buttons. (You can do the last part with a "Soft Keys" service, but I prefer the hardware keys.) It plays Angry Birds and even X Plane 9 Mobile very well. The orientation sensor seems to be a bit weaker, tipping acts more like a 20-sided die vs a sphere.

    In fact, since I have very little interest in paying the same price for electronic books that cannot be copied, shared, or transferred like real books, I have been returning to the classics - authors that have enriched the public domain after their years of exclusivity. I find the free FBReader to have a better interface than the built-in Barnes and Noble book reading interface.

    Many other games have not yet fixed their assumptions about maximum screen pixel dimensions, so they have hit-testing or background art scaling problems. Those will get fixed over time. Some apps or games like Alchemy Classic work better with more real estate, and some apps or games like my own Qwiz - Hiragana make use of the bigger screen with larger print or graphic elements.

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    1. Re:great low-cost tablet by Cylix · · Score: 2

      Actually, you will pay more for an ebook over the paper back.

      I was on a trip and happened to run through my spare reading material. I was not in a position to retrieve the next book in a series and as a last resort hopped on kindle. The price for paper back was around 5 or 6 dollars, but if I had been picky I could find it used for less. Now, the kindle edition was around 9 dollars for the exact same thing, but in digital format.

      Again, being away from home I had only a few easy options and I settled on the price. In that instance I had to chalk it up to the extra costs of travel and at the very least I am paid far extra for the inconvenience.

      I do like to give away my books once I've finished reading them, but I can't really do that either now.

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    2. Re:great low-cost tablet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Another problem I'm finding with ebooks (purchased through Amazon) is that in several cases they're nothing but bad OCR jobs. It pisses me off no end to pay 9 bucks for an ebook only to find words hyphenated in the middle of a line, number '1' instead of 'I', and even strange special characters being substituted for letters. When publishers decide to actually put in some effort to get their product at least as correct as their print versions, then I might see the point of paying for them. I've got plenty of Project Gutenberg ebooks and even pirated ebooks from torrents that were more professionally and conscientiously produced. Simply having an intern run the book through a scanner (as has been obvious in some books) and not even bothering to correct the text does not justify charging a damn thing.

  4. There is no min spec for Honeycomb. by teh31337one · · Score: 2

    And it will remain in a crippled state. The minimum spec for Android Honeycomb is a dualcore Tegra 2 (A9) chip. The Nook has a single core A8 chip.

    http://twitter.com/#!/morrildl/status/22845294886518785

  5. The color Nook is none too speedy at all... by Dr.+Crash · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've played extensively with a Nook Color.... and dispite a luscious color screen, it's none too speedy even doing what it's supposed to be doing, being a bookreader. Pages stutter as they cross the page; the update rate is not only well below 10 Hz but it's also irregular.

    I can only fear what it might be like running something "that should have more CPU available".

    That said, for $250, who cares? :)

    1. Re:The color Nook is none too speedy at all... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My nook color is a lot smoother now that I overclocked it up to 1 Ghz from 800 mhz. Also, running a different launcher program makes way more difference than I expected. If you remove the various phone services that are built into android, it also helps a bit.

  6. Community hardware ROMs just aren't worth it by SuperBanana · · Score: 2

    It's been my universal experience that community hardware ROMs tend to suck, and worse, the community usually isn't honest and upfront about all the problems; it's only after you install, find a slew of problems, and start googling that you find all the email and forum threads with dozens of "me too"s and no response from developers. I installed Cyanogen 6.1.1 on my Android phone, and it turns out there are a slew of issues that were reported in the 6.1 release candidates that "cyanogen" and his buddies just never could be pissed to fix before final release OR the .1.1 update that followed. It doesn't support hidden SSIDs, when the stock ROM does just fine. It also no longer supports sleeping with WiFi; if the phone goes into sleep mode, you have to cycle WiFi on and off again. Worse, wifi goes dead in a way that doesn't trigger the normal switchover to cellular data, which REALLY sucks if you're using something like Google Voice for texts and phone calls - you simply will not get the calls, missed call notification, or text messages. The sensitivity of the touch screen changed such that you now have to hold the phone to use the screen (ie, you can't tap something on the screen while it sits on your desk). All these issues have been reported in the forums and had bug reports filed, and they're sitting, untouched. Another example: the WRT-610N. Supported by one of the alternative ROMs for access points. Trouble is: performance sucked compared to the stock drivers, it would hang about every 18-24 hours, and so on. Lots of impressive features, but utter Fail when it came to basic reliability.

    1. Re:Community hardware ROMs just aren't worth it by cyclomedia · · Score: 2

      I find that with all software though, not just roms and not just android. But for a pertinent example the guy who ported UAE to android did a great job getting it running but stopped when it suited his needs. You can control the mouse pointer with the trackball (if your android HW device happens to have one) but you can't place the pointer using the touch screen, that part is fubar. And like 99% of of ports that get to the "it works for me stage" he's abandoned it and won't respond to messages asking for the source. Meaning the rest of us will have to start from scratch if we're to get past that problem, and no doubt whoever takes up that challenge will also get their version to the "works for me" stage and abandon it with completely different issues. /rant

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  7. iPod touch has the App Store by tepples · · Score: 2

    If Google (or whomever) is going to cripple non-3g devices, then they'll just lose out when the cheap Chinese knockoffs start hitting the market in large numbers.

    As far as I know, these cheap Chinese knockoffs already exist, and they already run Android without the Market.

    You don't have to be a genius to realize that the additional $600/yr for 3G connectivity (on top of the already-expensive phone plans) is keeping a lot of people out of the market

    Or it's driving a lot of people to Apple, which allows full App Store access to owners of iPod touch and iPad Wi-Fi hardware.

    The Galaxy Tab is a nice device, but there's too much battery-killing junk on it

    Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, 3G, and the like can be turned on and off.

  8. Re:Ahh.., thank you. by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 2

    Yeah, 1.0 is the Nook software/firmware.

    I haven't had a chance to tear it apart yet to see "what makes it tick" yet. Hopefully I will find time soon.

    It's not all that hard, actually. The unstable thing TFA talks about is Honeycomb, but you can also turn Nook into a tablet running 2.1 - with all bells and whistles working, since the OS remains the same, you just unlock its features. Even get the Market on it if you want. Here is all you need to know

  9. Kindle and PDFs by gwolf · · Score: 3, Informative

    The experience is... Ok. Although not stellar, by far - PDFs are usually produced to be displayed/printed on a letter/A4 format, that is, about 3x the size of the screen. The Kindle tries to get as close as possible to the PDF by cropping the displayed portion. Sadly, it does not recognize elements that make the display be too reduced (i.e. the header/footer, repeated at every page with minimal modifications)... But anyway, reading it at page level zoom is usually very uncomfortable (and I have very good sight), if at all possible.

    Zooming into the text is useless, as the zoom cuts the page in half horizontally - so if you are not reading material with columns (i.e. a magazine), it's basically useless.

    What I do, and have read several books with, is to rotate the screen and hold it in landscape. The cropping is then adjusted for maximum effective horizontal space. It is still not as comfortable as reading a text, native format - but it is much better, and more than enough for reading a book.

    Finally, if your PDF is mostly text, you can mail it to [your-address]@free.kindle.com, with "convert" as the subject. It usually does the right thing.

  10. Another Contender... by farrellj · · Score: 2

    The Pandigital "Novel" is a nice little Android tablet that is marketed as an ebook reader. It's only $160 (cdn), at Futureshop & Best Buy (Canada). It's also on sale in the US, but with a more crippled version of Android.

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  11. Re:Android is the new Linux (cough) by fafaforza · · Score: 2

    > 2) Newspaper
    > 3) A whole library of books. (!)
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    > 5) Web Browser
    > 6) Email,
    > 9) Hotline to my friends and family (Facebook!)
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    > Should I go on?

    Please don,t because you could go on forever if you listed every single thing you can do with a web browser, like buy things, find a parking spot, change my hotel reservation, read slashdot, read engadget, etc, etc. That's great. You have a web browser on a tiny screen and a slow(ish) network that costs a decent amount of money per month. I'm not saying the browser is the only feature, but that you're listing out "features" that are pretty much one feature.