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Egyptians Turn To Tor To Organize Dissent Online

An anonymous reader writes "Even as President Obama prepares to follow Mubarak with his own 'internet kill switch', Egyptians were turning to the Tor anonymiser to organise their protests online. The number of Egyptians connecting to the internet over Tor rose more than five-fold after protests broke out last week before crashing when the Government severed links to the global internet. Information security researcher, Tor coder and writer of the bridge that allowed Egypt's citizens to short-circuit government filters, Jacob Appelbaum, told SC Magazine Egyptians were 'concerned and some understand the risk of network traffic analysis.' Appelbaum has himself been the subject of attention from US security services who routinely snatch his electronics and search his belongings when he re-enters the country and who subpoenaed his private Twitter account last December." Which helps explain why Appelbaum is helping to organize a small fundraiser to get more communications gear into Egypt.

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  1. I'm Confused by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm a little confused. How does Tor work when they shut down the Internet?

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    1. Re:I'm Confused by Narkov · · Score: 4, Funny

      Don't let facts get in the way of a good story.

    2. Re:I'm Confused by lazy_nihilist · · Score: 5, Funny

      Simple. The Internet treats censorship as damage and routes around it.

    3. Re:I'm Confused by 0123456 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm a little confused. How does Tor work when they shut down the Internet?

      RFC 1149.

    4. Re:I'm Confused by Isaac+Remuant · · Score: 3, Funny

      Don't let research get in the way of a smart-ass comment.

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    5. Re:I'm Confused by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Don't forget RFC 2549.

    6. Re:I'm Confused by thetartanavenger · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'm a little confused. How does Tor work when they shut down the Internet?

      From the summary:

      Egyptians were turning to the Tor anonymiser to organise their protests online.

      I presume they meant prior to their loss of connection. Of course a headline of "Egyptians Were Using Tor to Organise Dissent Online" would be much less dramatic.

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    7. Re:I'm Confused by ocdscouter · · Score: 2

      I really hope that pigeon's only dropping packets on my desk!

    8. Re:I'm Confused by MachDelta · · Score: 2

      Homing pigeons and vans filled with hard drives.

      Except, on the tor network the van is swapped for a bus at its first node, a truck at the second, a fleet of yugo's at the third, etc, etc..
      Similarly the homing pigeon is switched with a homing goat, homing otter, homing walking stick, etc.
      It's really quite a fascinating process.

    9. Re:I'm Confused by markdueck · · Score: 2

      RTA. Heading and summary are off. Egyptians were using TOR before internet was cut off completely. I knew I had read that internet was completely off, not just being censored.

    10. Re:I'm Confused by JWSmythe · · Score: 2, Interesting

      ... Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes ...

          How far does the information have to travel, to get to the nearest border? About 250 miles. Less, if there's a point to point wireless relay. Sure, the "Internet" may be disabled. So all the fiber coming in country may be disabled. So all the ISP's may have downed their uplink interfaces. That doesn't mean an uplink isn't a tower climb away.

          Then again, I wouldn't want to be the guy climbing a tower to set up an uplink directly against the government's will, in the middle of a freakin' revolution. It's either a way to find out what the real effective of a MPK (or M16, or M4, or M40A3, or M21, or M1A2, or T55E, or... or .... or... damn, they have a huge variety of weapons). Shot off a tower, or a tower shot out from under you. Neither sounds like a very good option. Twitter wouldn't seem to be the highest priority during combat.

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    11. Re:I'm Confused by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
      Here

      Your donation will go to providing satellite internet devices, other related equipment, to help with network access costs,and general support for Egyptians and people working with Egypt during this crisis and beyond.

      Not very hard to find an answer.
      Instead of an invoice for my 3 minutes of searching, may I kindly ask you to go to the posted link, fill in the form and hit the "Donate" button.
      Thank you.

    12. Re:I'm Confused by smart_ass · · Score: 2

      Are you talking about me?

      (Seriously ... see username)

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    13. Re:I'm Confused by pinkushun · · Score: 2

      The govt initially just blocked Twitter and Facebook, that's when Tor usage spiked (in addition to the traffic from journalists). The net was cut by the time the streets was filled with people.

      "About a half-hour past midnight on Friday in Egypt, the internet went dead."

      You win a years supply of yesterday's newspaper for the 'Reading News Fail' award.

    14. Re:I'm Confused by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      I dunno if I understand that government. Instead of handing the people their soma so they don't protest, they intentionally take it away, leaving them with nothing to do but to protest?

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    15. Re:I'm Confused by Seth+Kriticos · · Score: 2

      Well, if I'd plan a revolution, I'd set up a few mobile satellite up-links and an ad-hock WiFi network through the major cities, establishing communication and organization cells with instructions how to operate them (protocol).

      But then again, a revolution is mostly a pretty messy, so they were probably preoccupied with other things, like wild rage and stuff.

  2. This reminds me by Beowulf_Boy · · Score: 2

    This reminds me a lot of that Corey Docterow novel about the kid who was blamed for being a terrorist in San Francisco.
    Used TOR and xboxs to make an ad-hoc network. Was actually a bit of an interesting read, although a bit worded for younger people.

  3. Net kill switch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I see people always going on about that. I can't see how this would help in the US. If people were protesting or there was unrest in the US, hitting the net kill switch would be economic suicide. In Egypt and Tunisia, the net was used more for socializing than business. In the US, the bulk of net use (in pure data) is business related. Our entire economy runs off of the net now. Turning it off would shut down or severely hobble a large number of fortune 500 companies, not to mention thousands of small and medium sized businesses. Also, like in Egypt and Tunisia, it would just give people more reason to go out on the streets. Without the net to bitch about the state of the country/world on, they would turn to going outside and raising hell instead. So sure, the govt can build their kill switch, but only if they plan to jettison our economy with the push oa button.

    1. Re:Net kill switch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      YouTube, Netflix, porn... all businesses.

    2. Re:Net kill switch by ScentCone · · Score: 5, Informative

      I can't see how this would help in the US

      You're misunderstanding what the "kill switch" legislation is. It's not technical. It's a legal mechanism by which the administration can tell services (including operations like Twitter or Google, or just Google's Gmail service, or an entire ISP, or just one blog site), software vendors, or individual engineers that they must take a specific action as required during an emergency. It's no different that the government's already existing ability to commandeer ham radio equipment, or cruise ships, or food distribution companies. If they think that a dozen people are waiting for instructions via Twitter to time their dropping off of backpack bombs on subway trains all around the country, then the "kill switch" is invoked: federal power to tell Twitter to shut down or otherwise do what they say has to be done. The legislation lays out penalties for failure to comply with such orders.

      This doesn't give the president a button to push. It gives him lawyers to push, in real time, on short notice.

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    3. Re:Net kill switch by SirAstral · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It wouldn't help a thing. This is politician solution to a problem that's not even a problem. If I were a foreign country I would be cheering the kill switch on, and when it passes, I would try every living thing I could in CyberAssualt to make them throw the kill switch. We will cause far more damage to ourselves than any cyber attack if we turn ourselves off.

      but we just keep voting these ass clowns into power. the problem is not our elected corrupt officials, its the people stuck in some ridiculous idea of a party system that George Washington our 1st president warned would destroy us!

      Did you vote Democrat? Then you are part of the problem!
      Did you vote Republican? Then you are part of the problem!

    4. Re:Net kill switch by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Not only that, but realize that globalisation works for internet companies more than for anyone else. You shut me down here? I open up in Australia. Or Hungary. Or India. Or Abu Dhabi, even Russia or Malaysia for all I'm concerned. For an internet business, it does not matter at all where they screw the racks into the walls.

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    5. Re:Net kill switch by vgerclover · · Score: 2

      The legislation lays out penalties for failure to comply with such orders.

      Does it lay out penalties for misuse of such powers?

    6. Re:Net kill switch by ScentCone · · Score: 2

      Does it lay out penalties for misuse of such powers?

      It's the same as mis-using the long-standing executive powers to stockpile bauxite in the strategic reserve, or mis-using powers to take over city bus fleets in an emergency, or mis-using powers to do anything else. It's called not getting re-elected, usually. And if it's criminal (we have tens of thousands of laws already spelling that out), then it's called getting impeached.

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  4. Tor's new slogan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Tor, it's not just for child pornographers and anti-Communist dissidents any more!"

  5. It's further proof. by pizzach · · Score: 3, Informative

    Proof that anyone using a Tor is a criminal with something to hide. They just happen to be breaking Egyption laws instead of US ones. The scumbags. [/end sarcasm]

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  6. Obama is now a Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Um...how does Senator Susan Collins, Republican from Main, putting forward a beyond-all-reason-lame bill, somehow equal Obama following Mubarak? Yes, the bill is to give the president the time power to kill the Internet in various poorly defined ways, but that's one amazingly long politically reaching spin if I ever heard one.

  7. Partisan bullshit overtaking slashdot??? WTFF??! by catmistake · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Even as President Obama prepares to follow Mubarak with his own 'internet kill switch',

    WTF??? I'm really getting sick and tired of this partisan garbage on slashdot. It's bad enough that it's in posters' comments, do we really have to have it force fed to us in the summaries? Hey lefties... fuck you... but you righties, a special "go fuck yourself" from me, mkay? Arrogant lying assholes... say anything to make the competition look bad, anything at all to win. Stupid, women-hating, fascist money lovers. Bite me.

  8. Revolution Radio by unlocked · · Score: 4, Informative

    Get some 100 watt FM transmitters make a afsk broadcast(Setting up Soundmodem on Linux). Next plug headphone jack from fm radio into laptop use multimon or windows equivalent. Just have to coordinate freq maybe could try encrypting it with open-ssh and sharing certs

  9. Have you been watching the live feed? by pinkushun · · Score: 2

    2 *million* people are marching for their freedom. In passerby interviews they keep repeating that they want a peaceful protest, as they want the rest of the world to stand behind them and see they really want this change.

    Despite that, people got killed from police gunfire, live rounds and rubber bullets included.

    Sure there are a few looters, some suspected of being undercover police to instill FUD in the crowds, a tactic not beyond the past 30 years of tyranny.

    The army publicly announced they will _not_ fire on the people as long as the protest stays peaceful.

    Google's official blog explains a new technology developed by a group of tech geeks who wanted to contribute positively to the current situation in Egypt.

    This is not just middle east anymore, this is humanity coming together.

    Check it out :-) http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

    And http://stop404.org/682 :-)

  10. Re:Partisan bullshit overtaking slashdot??? WTFF?? by metacell · · Score: 3, Interesting

    For a European like me, the difference between Democratic and Republican presidents seems minimal with regards to electronic surveillance and censorship.

    In my own country, Sweden, the parties conveniently switch to criticising surveillance and censorship when they're out of power, only to conveniently switch back when they're in power again.

  11. WTF this is an obvious troll by Edmund+Blackadder · · Score: 4, Informative

    When has president Obama suggested an Internet kill switch? This is the idea of a Republican senator and has not been endorsed or supported by Obama, afaik. This should have never made it to the front page, it is an obvious troll.

  12. Re:Partisan bullshit overtaking slashdot??? WTFF?? by sorak · · Score: 2

    We do the same. During the Bush years, the GOP meme was "trust the government. It's unpatriotic to stand in the president's way". After Obama's election, but before he took office, that meme changed to "The president is out to push a socialist agenda and I hope the president fails", and these same people who were decrying dissent took a tactic of filibustering and obstructing every attempt at legislation, because they didn't want to give the other guy any victories.