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App — the Most Abused Word In Tech?

Barence writes "PC Pro has a blog exploring the misuse of the word 'app'. Until the iPhone came along, the word 'application' largely meant a self-contained piece of software installed on a PC or Mac. Then Apple took ownership, trimmed it to three letters, and within months the word 'app' became synonymous with small widgets of code for smartphones. Now, Google's pushing the boundaries of the 'app' definition even further. Google Chrome users will have seen a new addition to their browser recently: the Chrome Web Store. Here, you'll find dozens of 'apps' to install and run directly from a handy icon on the browser's home screen. Except, these aren't 'apps' at all. They're websites. Google's idea of 'apps' are what we quaintly referred to in the good old days as 'bookmarks.' Does the word 'app' mean anything at all any more?"

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  1. You want to know what an "app" is? by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 5, Funny

    There's an app for that.

    1. Re:You want to know what an "app" is? by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 2

      Kleenex, Band Aids, Jello, etc.

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    2. Re:You want to know what an "app" is? by GooberToo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're right, and IMOHO, it all started with Sun - not Apple. People got tired of saying, "Applet", and started calling them "apps". Then Apple came a long and said, "we should call them that." And seemingly, they did. And yet even before that, the word, "app", was being used as an abreviated form of "application" for just about anything, ranging from small, tiny apps (java applets) to desktop apps.

      I honestly fail to see what connection Apple has to this in any way other than attempting to, seemingly, inappropriately, fanboy Apple. And if my account isn't valid, then seemingly Apple stole dozens of friends, family, and co-worker's thunder years after the fact. Where's my money...

  2. Pedantry and Nothing More by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Then Apple took ownership, trimmed it to three letters, and within months the word 'app' became synonymous with small widgets of code ...

    Perhaps you would take care to avoid abusing words like 'widgets' and 'code' when tearing down the misuse of 'app'?

    What does "widgets of code" mean here? What does "Tech" mean in the title?

    1. Re:Pedantry and Nothing More by David+Chappell · · Score: 2

      Damn right. An "app" is just an application program. A bit of code that helps you solve a particular problem. It doesn't matter how big it is or where it runs.

      Indeed, an application need not be large. It is my understanding that both "app" and "application" are short for "application program". I believe an application program is one which applies the power of the computer to some problem or task which has meaning outside the computer, even if the task is trivial. Programs which are used to repair the computer itself, adjust it, or organize its data are generally not application programs. They are utility programs.

      So, calculators, media players, word processors, and stock tickers are all application programs. Virus scanners, disk defragmenters, file managers, etc. are not.

    2. Re:Pedantry and Nothing More by ColdWetDog · · Score: 3, Funny

      -Having grown-up with Commodore GEOS and Workbench, I call programs "tools", directories "drawers", and the terminal a "CLI".

      Mommy! Grandpa is getting all old and confused again!

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    3. Re:Pedantry and Nothing More by David+Chappell · · Score: 2

      So I have to call winamp an 'uti' now? (pronounced, uhtee)

      No, because Winamp is an application. It allows you to use a computer (instead of a phonograph, tape recorder, or CD player) to play back recorded music.

      The phrase "application program" is intended to distinguish the "useful" programs from the mass of other programs, mainly those that are necessary to operate the computer but do not really do anything that would mean anything to a computer-illiterate person.

      Imagine they took away your computer and all of its programs. If the loss of a particular program meant you would have to find a new way to perform its task, then it is an application program. If however, the loss of the computer meant the program's task no longer needed to be performed, then it is not an application program.

      This makes sense: I have been forbidden to use computers for a year. I need to buy a CD player.

      This sentence does not: I have been forbidden to use computers for a year. I need to buy a virus scanner.

  3. Why worry? by schnikies79 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Words change, things change. Move on.

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    1. Re:Why worry? by Darkness404 · · Score: 2

      Because if people can't agree on what a word means, it leads to potential for misunderstandings and fraud. I don't think anyone can define "App" in the way that agrees with how Apple, Google and everyone else is using the word.

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    2. Re:Why worry? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Appropriate appellations apparently apply to applications.

    3. Re:Why worry? by peragrin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Can you identify a widget or program in a way that agrees with everyone as well.

      how about a shortcut, link, or alias? Folder vs Directory?

      App is just a new word. Apple has always used Apps as Windows used Programs. No one wrote programs for the Mac they wrote Applications. however it was sometimes referred to as programs as windows users crossed over.

      Now Apple is popular. Their self contained applications have encompassed many traits. Since apple is popular, every one is copying them instead of paving a new path.

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    4. Re:Why worry? by Kensai7 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Indeed! Apple is not a fruit anymore, it's a RELIGION! :p

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  4. Uh, no. by msauve · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Then Apple took ownership, trimmed it to three letters, and within months the word 'app' became synonymous with small widgets of code for smartphones.

    That claim is simply made up of whole cloth. The author has apparently never heard the phrase "killer app," which goes back to way before iPhones or smartphones.

    "App" is a common and logical shortening of "application," and has been in widespread use for a long time.

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  5. Ceci n'est pas une app by Mysteray · · Score: 3, Funny

    This comment is not an app

    1. Re:Ceci n'est pas une app by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 3, Funny

      I would like to buy a copy of your English to French Slashdot comment translator app.

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  6. Maybe app isn't short for applicaton by cortesoft · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As the article points out, an 'app' is very different from an 'application'. I have never heard someone refer to an iPhone program as an 'application' and I have never heard someone use the term 'app' to refer to a stand-alone desktop software. This would seem to imply that they are distinct terms, and one is not merely shorthand for the other.

    This is not the misappropriation of one term, but the creation of a new one. Sure, the word app has its root in the word application, but there are lots of words that come from old words (in fact, most words have their roots in other words that mean different, but related, things).

    I think the only time that anyone should complain about the misuse of terms is when it is unclear which version of the word someone is using. An example from the article is the misuse of 'download' for 'upload'. If someone says download when they mean upload, it can be confusing. If someone calls something an 'app', no one will think they are talking about a desktop application.

    Also another complaint with the article: applications have always referred to more than just 'a self-contained piece of software installed on a PC or Mac'. All other operating systems have applications as well.

    1. Re:Maybe app isn't short for applicaton by AeneaTech · · Score: 2

      The executable file extension for GUI applications on Atari's TOS had either the extension .PRG or, wait for it, .APP...

      We're talking 1985 here.......

  7. Many of them are apps by Joehonkie · · Score: 2

    "Except, these aren't 'apps' at all. They're websites." Except many of them are "apps" as much as any application has ever been. Fully running programs written in a programming language, which just happens to be HTML5. Also the abbreviation "app" predates the iPhone by approximately as long as I have used computers.

  8. The definition is still valid by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 2

    Until the iPhone came along, the word 'application' largely meant a self-contained piece of software installed on a PC or Mac.

    Really? So something installed on, say, Amiga was not an "application"?

    On the other hand, if you drop the "PC or Mac" part, the definition is still perfectly valid for iOS (and Android etc) apps. In fact, if anything, they're even more self-contained on average than your usual PC app, while all other marks are still there.

    ow, Google's pushing the boundaries of the 'app' definition even further. Google Chrome users will have seen a new addition to their browser recently: the Chrome Web Store. Here, you'll find dozens of 'apps' to install and run directly from a handy icon on the browser's home screen. Except, these aren't 'apps' at all. They're websites.

    Are they software? Yes (it doesn't magically become something else just because you lay out UI using HTML/CSS and code the backend using JS).

    Do they solve some specific problem? Yes.

    Are they self-contained? Yes.

    Can they run offline (which is effectively equivalent to being "installed")? Yes.

    They are applications.

  9. Re:"Cloud" is far more overused by Random+BedHead+Ed · · Score: 2

    My vote for most overused word in tech is definitely "cloud" - and Microsoft's ridiculous ad campaigns are not helping the situation. People use it in a very uninformed, buzzword manner in most circumstances.

    At least they're not calling it ActiveCloud.NET 7 Series Enterprise Edition.

  10. The distinction is irrelevant by Randyll · · Score: 3, Informative

    As much as Google Docs is a website it is also a web application. Whether the shortcut I see on my "Apps" view in Chrome takes me to a local or remote (cloud) program is irrelevant. If I am using vim remotely through a ssh client, am I using a terminal or vim, or both? In the same sense, the browser acts as a terminal for Google Docs, and denigrating the contemporary definition of 'app' is a waste of time.

  11. App vs. Program by RManning · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I had a meeting with the owner of the printshop my company uses. He's a gadget guy, so we eventually started talking about all the cool stuff our phones can do now. He kept talking about how much more he liked "apps" than "programs". It took me a few minutes to realize that he understood "app" to mean the stuff he installs and runs on his phone, and "program" to mean the stuff the installs and runs on his computer. It was obvious from our conversation that these meanings were distinct in his mind and commonly used. It was new to me.

  12. Re:TFA's definition of "application" is too narrow by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 2

    The mainstream considers "app" an abbreviation of "application," that's what matters.

    And exe is an abbreviation of executable, most extensions are.

    .app is hidden by default in Mac OS X so even the average mac user doesn't know about that extension.

    I just checked a freshly installed box I happen to have handy and no, the .app extension is visible by default.

    And Steve being a marketer didn't start calling them apps in press conferences because it was more geeky and obscure, I assure you.

    He started calling them apps in press conferences in the early 2000's, a few years after everyone else using OS X started referring to applications as apps.

  13. Re:Cloud by Stenchwarrior · · Score: 2

    The problem with 'the cloud' is that no two experts can agree on what 'the cloud' is.

    Cloud = computers systems and applications (or "apps", if you will) accessible and executed from the Internet. No? I never knew there was a question about what the Cloud is.

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