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Tethered, Water-Powered Jetpack Provides Two Hours of Flight Time

arshadk writes "Unlike 'ordinary' jetpacks, the JetLev is actually two vehicles, tethered by a hose the thickness of your thigh. On the water is a small speedboat-like unit which contains a 250 horsepower motor and a pump. This is connected to the pack — into which you strap your frail body — by a 10-meter hose. The water is pumped from the sea or lake below up to the nozzles on the jetpack, providing a 1,900-Newton thrust, enough to lift a human weighing up to 150 kilos."

170 comments

  1. Fire hose by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is like hanging onto a firehose.

    1. Re:Fire hose by erroneus · · Score: 1

      Exactly what I thought. The background music was also well selected as it sounds like something from a cruise line/vacation spot advertisement. This is the new Parasailing.

    2. Re:Fire hose by Baseclass · · Score: 1

      This reminds me of Super Mario Sunshine.

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  2. useless by MorpheusNOR · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Most useless invention ever...

    1. Re:useless by WorBlux · · Score: 2

      Oh come on. Maybe it doesn't make anything, but it does seem like a relatively cheap and safe way to live out childhood fantasies.

    2. Re:useless by JockTroll · · Score: 1

      May be good for hanging up those Christmas decorations in style, instead of relying on ladders.

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    3. Re:useless by lul_wat · · Score: 2

      I prefer my Christmas decorations nailed to a cross.

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    4. Re:useless by mickwd · · Score: 1

      Most useless invention ever...

      ...if you have a shitty, boring life and your determined it stays that way.

    5. Re:useless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh come on. Maybe it doesn't make anything, but it does seem like a relatively cheap and safe way to live out childhood fantasies.

      Ya, well that's what the first guys to do this said too. They scrapped the whole project because a) a tether of any sort makes this fairly useless and b) a 10 meter tether makes it entirely useless.

      I have a hard time seeing a 10 meter radius as being much fun to "jet around" in, although I suppose if the vessel could "tow" you along behind it, it might make for a rather interesting water/air skiing type of sport. But I have a feeling that it doesn't have enough thrust to counter the downward force when the speeboat gets moving along, so it'd probably just pull you down to the surface. So if we combined it with one of the human-powered hydroplane "bike" things it might make for a good time, provided of course there is enough booze on hand.

      But there really isn't anything serious to be done with this. And it's not a jetpack. Call me up when you've got a self-contained unit that can do at least 100 foot off the ground for a couple hours with a load of at least 350 pounds.

    6. Re:useless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most useless comment ever...

    7. Re:useless by cynyr · · Score: 2

      Its the other way around. Think like a canister vacuum cleaner, you tow the vessel. The article says 35MPH for 2 hours if you wanted.

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    8. Re:useless by Nikker · · Score: 1

      I don't think you can appreciate what will happen to 350 pounds when dropped 100ft.

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    9. Re:useless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most useless invention ever...

      ...if you have a shitty, boring life and your determined it stays that way.

      you're

    10. Re:useless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or if you have a good, interesting life and you're determined it stays that way.

    11. Re:useless by osu-neko · · Score: 2

      Most useless invention ever...

      It's called entertainment. Some may call it useless. Frankly, I would say it's the only inherently useful thing humans create -- all other "useful" inventions are useful only to the extent that they further our ability to enjoy. The only useless invention is one that never leads to any increase in human joy. Anything that is properly classified as entertainment does, by definition.

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    12. Re:useless by i_b_don · · Score: 1

      What I don't get is why the promo video made it look SOOO boring! If this is a way to live out childhood fantasies, fly around a little. Do something more than just hang in the air like you were attached to a rope!

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    13. Re:useless by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      So you have Christmas at Easter?

      Ah, I get it. You live in Australia!

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    14. Re:useless by wesleyjconnor · · Score: 1

      Most useless invention ever...

      It's called entertainment. Some may call it useless. Frankly, I would say it's the only inherently useful thing humans create -- all other "useful" inventions are useful only to the extent that they further our ability to enjoy. The only useless invention is one that never leads to any increase in human joy. Anything that is properly classified as entertainment does, by definition.

      I mean maybe if it was in 3D it would be a little more entertaining

  3. Rebellion against the Javascript Floaters by SuperKendall · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    I liked to leave Javascript enabled by default, I really did. But the appearance of things like the floater on this page, and the sneaker adds that lurk at the bottom, randomly springing up... it's too much. Javascript across the web is now whitelisted for me.

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    1. Re:Rebellion against the Javascript Floaters by Douglas+Simmons · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Bump on that bro. Thanks, didn't even occur to me to disable js. Nice uid btw. You must remember the old days with low five digits.

    2. Re:Rebellion against the Javascript Floaters by SuperKendall · · Score: 0

      Actually I'm not sure the old days were that much different... less political perhaps but the same personalities. Technical people do not change.

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  4. Anyone hoping the guy would run out in mid air? by yeshuawatso · · Score: 2

    Maybe it's the American in me, but I was hoping to see the jet pack fail in mid flight as the guy takes a Red Bull flight contest dive.

    1. Re:Anyone hoping the guy would run out in mid air? by crossmr · · Score: 1

      Maybe it's the American in me

      You might try telling him you've agreed to a democractic process for choosing your breakfast and ask him to leave.

    2. Re:Anyone hoping the guy would run out in mid air? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't worry, it has nothing to do with being American. Just generic retardation.

    3. Re:Anyone hoping the guy would run out in mid air? by websaber · · Score: 2, Funny

      "human weighing up to 150 kilos" You have to wait until they come out with the American version.

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    4. Re:Anyone hoping the guy would run out in mid air? by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      Indeed, but not because of the units. Just the amount....

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  5. could it be scaled up by strack · · Score: 1, Interesting

    ive always wondered if this sort of thing could be scaled up to pump high pressure hydrogen or oxygen up a hose attached to a rocket as its taking off for the first 10-20 km of its flight. or maybe a superconducting cable, or just pressured air for extra thrust. then the hose breaks away, and splashes down in the ocean

    1. Re:could it be scaled up by CosmeticLobotamy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're then pulling along a 20km hose behind your rocket, and that hose has to be strong enough to support its own weight. You're going to add more weight than you're subtracting.

      Unless you built a 20km tall tower that the hose hangs down from and as the rocket ascends you retract the hose so the rocket doesn't have to carry the slack. But then you have to build a 20km tall tower that can hold an enormous amount of hose (still sturdy enough to be 20km long) and the weight of the fuel item you're moving, and since that weight is going to be on one side of the tower you'd have to counterbalance it on the other side. Tricky.

    2. Re:could it be scaled up by jamesh · · Score: 2

      10-20km of hose would be kind of heavy. Especially the top of the hose which has to hold up the rest...

    3. Re:could it be scaled up by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      But then you have to build a 20km tall tower that can hold an enormous amount of hose (still sturdy enough to be 20km long) and the weight of the fuel item you're moving, and since that weight is going to be on one side of the tower you'd have to counterbalance it on the other side. Tricky.

      If you build it high enough, then you can just toss the satellite of the roof to get it into orbit. Didn't I read something about this idea in the Bible? The Tower of Babel?

      Oh, yeah, that kinda sorta fell down. But with modern nanotube technology, maybe we can work something out?

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    4. Re:could it be scaled up by pedestrian+crossing · · Score: 2

      If you build it high enough, then you can just toss the satellite of the roof to get it into orbit.

      Orbit is about velocity, not altitude. You would have to "toss" it at orbital velocity, otherwise it would just drop...

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    5. Re:could it be scaled up by strack · · Score: 1

      well its more the rocket is pulling the hose directly behind it as it ascends, with powerful pumps pumping liquid hydrogen into the bottom of the hose, as it is pulled up from a large coil laid around the lauch pad. then it is detached from the rocket end at 10 km or some similar height. im curious as to how the tensile strength of kevlar would hold up to that. 10km of hose by about 1 kg per meter of hose is about 10 tonnes. that dosent seem infeasible.

    6. Re:could it be scaled up by chichilalescu · · Score: 1

      while true in practice for a 20 km tower, your observation is not technically correct. For a long enough tower (too lazy to compute now, but much larger than the distance Earth-Moon), the velocity given by a normal human toss would be enough.
      you're in orbit if you have the right combination of velocity and potential energy (the momentum also gives the kinetic energy), not just if you have the right velocity. Also note that you need the right orientation for that velocity.

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    7. Re:could it be scaled up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      At certain heights, "orbital velocity" is zero speed delta relative to the ground.
      Geosynchronous orbit, for instance... If you go higher, then you need more speed, but in "reverse".

    8. Re:could it be scaled up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Orbit is about velocity, not altitude. You would have to "toss" it at orbital velocity, otherwise it would just drop...

      Velocity relative to what? A geostationary sattelite is motionless relative to the ground, which is exactly the same velocity as the top of your tower would have.

    9. Re:could it be scaled up by CosmeticLobotamy · · Score: 1

      20km is 140km short of low earth orbit. Though you'd have to talk to someone with more structural engineering knowledge than I have to know how impractical a 20km tall tower is this week. And someone with more rocket science knowledge to tell you if this scheme of whatever quantity of fuel this would offload is of any benefit at all.

      As for nanotubes, it's my understanding that they have excellent tensile strength but poor compressive strength, making them useful for a "hanging" space elevator but useless for a very tall tower.

    10. Re:could it be scaled up by hvm2hvm · · Score: 1

      Aaaand... parts of the tower will be pulled up more which should make the tower relatively easier to keep up.

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    11. Re:could it be scaled up by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 1

      Ah, Slashdot!: Where no creative idea is too good to be voiced without being shot down by a dozen technical objections before it can even take flight.

      The OP's idea is speculative, but could be a good way of saving fuel in the first few seconds of rocket flight. But if the general community of engineers has the kind of attitude on display around here, I doubt anyone will even bother to do the calculations.

      If this place had been around in earlier years, I doubt space flight, microwave ovens or integrated circuits would have ever been created in the face of a tsunami of derision and pedantic objection from the armchair engineers in the peanut gallery.

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    12. Re:could it be scaled up by jamesh · · Score: 2

      Not just tensile strength. 10km of head of pressure is not insignificant, and would require one hell of a pump to push it up there, and a lot of strength to hold it in.

    13. Re:could it be scaled up by JustOK · · Score: 1

      except if it's windy, or if everyone suddenly runs to one side.

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    14. Re:could it be scaled up by vlm · · Score: 1

      The OP's idea is speculative, but could be a good way of saving fuel in the first few seconds of rocket flight. But if the general community of engineers has the kind of attitude on display around here, I doubt anyone will even bother to do the calculations.

      No need to bother with the numbers. That is optimizing the, by far, cheapest part of a spacecraft flight by a very small percentage indeed at a staggering capital cost. Its merely pointless.

      The other "minor" engineering problem not discussed so far is the tiny problem of maximizing both the height of the building and the lifetime of the building, because to make a profit vs just burning a little more cheap fuel is going to take centuries, eons. We're talking about budgeting around, thru, and long after the next ice age.

      The economic problem is, what is the net present value of a multi trillion dollar building that saves perhaps a couple million per year in fuel costs, in an economic environment where the money supply is growing at about a 10% annual rate. Hmm I'm thinking thats not terribly profitable.

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    15. Re:could it be scaled up by vlm · · Score: 1

      Not just tensile strength. 10km of head of pressure is not insignificant, and would require one hell of a pump to push it up there, and a lot of strength to hold it in.

      Well, you could put multiple pumps along the hose. Of course there will be problems supplying them, so how about distributed tankage along the hose.

      Then maybe you could optimize that, by simplifying, by installing all the pumps and tanks in the vehicle. Hmm. I think this idea has promise, powerpoints and promotions for all!

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    16. Re:could it be scaled up by vadim_t · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Ah, Slashdot!: Where no creative idea is too good to be voiced without being shot down by a dozen technical objections before it can even take flight.

      Space flight was achieved by addressing technical objections, not by ignoring them and pretending "creativity" is all there is to it.

      So for instance, if your creative idea requires a 20km high tower made of solid unobtainium, then you have a problem, until you actually succeed at coming up with a material with the required properties.

      The OP's idea is speculative, but could be a good way of saving fuel in the first few seconds of rocket flight. But if the general community of engineers has the kind of attitude on display around here, I doubt anyone will even bother to do the calculations.

      You're proposing the idea, it's your job to prove it can be done. So go provide some calculations.

    17. Re:could it be scaled up by ls671 · · Score: 1

      Not true if you have a 36,000 km tall tower -> geostationary orbit, taller than that you actually need to slow the object down so it would stay in orbit.

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    18. Re:could it be scaled up by camperdave · · Score: 1

      Not just tensile strength. 10km of head of pressure is not insignificant, and would require one hell of a pump to push it up there, and a lot of strength to hold it in.

      Not just tensile strength and massive pumps, but that hose is going to be trailing through the exhaust plume of a rocket. It's going to have to have enormous insulating properties for it to maintain cryogenic temperatures within the hose while facing 3000C temperatures on the outside.

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    19. Re:could it be scaled up by Dunbal · · Score: 0

      Didn't I read something about this idea in the Bible? The Tower of Babel? Oh, yeah, that kinda sorta fell down.

      Kinda sorta never existed is more accurate.

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    20. Re:could it be scaled up by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      I doubt anyone will even bother to do the calculations.

      We invite you to do them for us. But I have intuitively strong objections to dangling a hose full of combustible fuel behind a rocket that is trailing a long, hot flame.

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    21. Re:could it be scaled up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It always blows my mind how quickly the fantasies and delusions pop up when rockets or space flight are mentionned. The most clueless people get all butthurt that we don't have impossible technologies, then blame the *engineers* that BUILT all the stuff we *DO* have! WHY!?

    22. Re:could it be scaled up by camperdave · · Score: 1

      Let's not forget that rockets do not travel straight up. The shuttle, for example, would be about 15km downrange when it gets to 20km of altitude.

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    23. Re:could it be scaled up by camperdave · · Score: 1

      Velocity relative to a non rotating frame of reference centered on the center of mass of the body being orbited.

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    24. Re:could it be scaled up by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      That depends on the mass of the fuel and the friction of the hose. You could get something like a small-scale orbital fountain effect, so the hose could be designed to be self-supporting.

      The problem of how you dispose of a 20 km hose after it detaches would still remain.

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    25. Re:could it be scaled up by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      I've had a similar idea involving giant elastic bands to launch a rocket. Not all the way, obviously - but if you can maybe give it an elastic band boost just on launch, could you cut even one percent off the fuel requirements?

    26. Re:could it be scaled up by tgeller · · Score: 1

      This is what I love about technologists. "All we need is a 22-mile-high tower...". :)

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    27. Re:could it be scaled up by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Kinda sorta never existed is more accurate.

      Even readers of Snow Crash know that there is historical precedent for the existence of a tower of babel. I'm getting the idea that this Jehovah guy was just some amazing badass with lost alien technology who wanted to rule the world. I mean, where did all that stuff from the Vedas come from anyway? It's 2011, where is my sky chariot!@#~!

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    28. Re:could it be scaled up by ls671 · · Score: 1

      Note: a 22,000 miles tower would actually be needed to achieve what I describe, 22 miles wouldn't do it.

      Then again, you could always use a geostationary satellite with a large mass and attach a rope to it instead of building a tower and make other satellites to be launched climb up that rope instead.

      Build up the mass of the pulling satellite slowly, in many operations ($$$). Take pieces of that rope gradually to the pulling satellite and have space welders assemble it in the way back to Earth.

      The nice thing is there is no "you need to support the weight of the rope" non-sense because with centripetal forces, it all equates out and the rope doesn't have to support its own weight. Note to myself: I need to QA this with regards to what happens in the the close to Earth part of the rope, forces might not be applied in a linear fashion after all but still...

      Does that remind you some movie were they had a space elevator ? ;-)

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    29. Re:could it be scaled up by fnj · · Score: 1

      Erm ... that's 22 THOUSAND miles!

    30. Re:could it be scaled up by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      Although fuel is the cheapest part of the spacecraft flight, it still makes sense to optimize on it, because the sheer quantity of fuel required, as expressed as fraction of the total mass of the vehicle, means that the structures always have to be gossamer things with exotic enough materials and calculations out the wazoo to make that work.

      If you could cut the fuel mass to even 50% of the total, you open up a whole slew of possibilities for economizing and safety that just aren't available at our current best of ~87%.

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    31. Re:could it be scaled up by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      And what we love about PHBs is that they divide by a thousand and think it doesn't make any difference.

      But details are for minions. I'm sure that if he doesn't want to build it, you'll find someone else with the right attitude...

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    32. Re:could it be scaled up by Man+Eating+Duck · · Score: 1

      I see that you're already aware that you just reinvented the space elevator :)

      The nice thing is there is no "you need to support the weight of the rope" non-sense because with centripetal forces, it all equates out and the rope doesn't have to support its own weight.

      While the space elevator is a really neat idea, the problem is that your rope unfortunately *does* need to carry its own weight. And for that you need a "rope" with some amazing properties, specifically immense tensile strength.

      Carbon nanotubes theoretically have high enough tensile strength, but it's not yet possible to manufacture them in the quantities and with the properties required. If we do manage to construct a space elevator it will be a very cheap way to transport cargo into space, and it'll revolutionize human spacetravel. Sadly, initial cost and engineering feasibility will most likely keep it in the realm of science fiction for quite some time to come.

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    33. Re:could it be scaled up by petermgreen · · Score: 2

      First some definitions. For the purposes of this post

      Tope is defined as a construction that is built to withstand tension but will simply bend out of the way if subject to compression. Further it has mass. The mass and strength of a rope may or may not be uniform (for a space elavator it most likely wouldn't be)

      A space elavator is a rope running from the earths surface and held up by cetrifugal force.

      The nice thing is there is no "you need to support the weight of the rope" non-sense because with centripetal forces, it all equates out and the rope doesn't have to support its own weight.
      It does kind of.

      A mass that is stationary above the equator of a heavy rotating body such as the earth has an effective weight which is the objects weight minus the centrifugal force* acting on it. Weight is proportional to the objects mass multiplied by the inverse square of altitude. Centrifugal force is proportional to the objects mass multiplied by altitude. At some altitude those forces balance out and the effective weight becomes zero, we say an object that is above the equator at this altitude is in geostationary orbit. Above geostationary orbit the effective weight would be negative

      This background leads us to the following statements about a space elavator.

      1: To keep forces balanced the tension in the rope at any point must be the tension at the ground plus the effective weight below that point minus the effective weight above that point.
      2: The rope at the ground must have a tension that is greater than or equal to zero (per defintion that a rope can't resist compressive forces) therefore the overall effective weight of the rope must be negative. This means that the rope (or a weight attatched to it) must extend beyond geostationary orbit.
      3: The point of maximum tension in the rope is at geostationary orbit since all mass above geostationary orbit has a negative effective weight and all mass below has a positive effective weight. The rope at geostationary orbit must be able to support the effective weight of the entire run from geostationary orbit to the ground plus the tension at the ground anchor (you don't want this to be zero since it must remain positive even as dynamic changes to the system (such as a climber being attatched to the system) happen.

      * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrifugal_force#Fictitious_centrifugal_force

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    34. Re:could it be scaled up by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      Weight is proportional to the objects mass multiplied by the inverse square of altitude. Centrifugal force is proportional to the objects mass multiplied by altitude.
      Just to clarify those altitudes are relative to the center of the earth not to the earths surface.

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    35. Re:could it be scaled up by tombeard · · Score: 1
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    36. Re:could it be scaled up by tombeard · · Score: 1
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    37. Re:could it be scaled up by tombeard · · Score: 1

      Ha, someone that actually understands PHBs! Mods if I had any.

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    38. Re:could it be scaled up by tibit · · Score: 1

      Easy to calculate. The nice thing is that you don't need to worry about any properties of the elastic band. We will simply assume that you want to replace the thrust available for the length of the launch tower with a mechanical pusher, for some existing rocket.

      Let's say we were to "optimize" Falcon 9 that way. Falcon 9 has qty 9 Merlin-1C engines, each operating at isp=300s and thrust=560kN at sea level.
      From that we get that each of those engines consumes about 190kg/s of combined propellant (fuel+oxidizer), so that's about 1700kg/s for the whole rocket: it sheds almost two tons every second.

      The initial weight of the stack is about 333e3 kg. Under 560kN*9, the stack accelerates at about 15m/s^2 initially. Assuming this acceleration to be constant -- for simplicity, it takes about 2.8s to clear the ~60m long service arm. The weight savings would be at best the amount of propellant spent in that time: about 4.8e3kg, or 1.4% of the total weight.

      If you ask me: absolutely, hands down not worth it, since you'd sacrifice quite a lot. You'd forfeit is hold-down engine run-up: Space X rockets launch not unlike jets - they can get full thrust from the engines with the brakes applied; should anything go wrong you cut the engines and are safe. Suddenly launch success is very sensitive to engine startup issues: you get only one go at engine startup, and if that somehow fails due to any glitch you come crashing down a few seconds later.

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    39. Re:could it be scaled up by tibit · · Score: 1

      Forgot to say the obvious: yes, you could say a little bit over 1% of the propellant (combined fuel+oxidizer). You'd still have to assume that whatever mechanical strong points needed to apply the pushing force come for free in terms of weight -- that's a rather unlikely scenario. Never mind loss of fault tolerance.

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    40. Re:could it be scaled up by wesleyjconnor · · Score: 1

      while true in practice for a 20 km tower, your observation is not technically correct. For a long enough tower (too lazy to compute now, but much larger than the distance Earth-Moon), the velocity given by a normal human toss would be enough. you're in orbit if you have the right combination of velocity and potential energy (the momentum also gives the kinetic energy), not just if you have the right velocity. Also note that you need the right orientation for that velocity.

      wouldn't something like this throw off the earths center of gravity ?

    41. Re:could it be scaled up by m50d · · Score: 1

      I've never seen anything using elasticity to lift something that big. The coolest (and most practical) suggestion I've seen for giving rockets an initial leg up is launching them from helium balloons that're already at 20000ft. Not sure how far they got with that one.

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  6. Oh look it's Super Mario! by Arty2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Seems to me they discovered the FLUDD, nice.

    1. Re:Oh look it's Super Mario! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's impossible to be the first instance of a joke on Slashdot.

  7. Oblig. Warning by Jonah+Hex · · Score: 2

    WARNING: Jet Pack does not function as a flotation device.

    HEX

  8. "Hi, I'm Johnny Knoxville, and this is . . . by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

    The Tethered, Water-Powered Jetpack. With 1,900-Newton thrust.

    Falling 30 feet onto water might not be pleasant, but neither is it going kill you.

    "Do you care to comment, Mr. Knoxville? We would like an expert opinion.

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    1. Re:"Hi, I'm Johnny Knoxville, and this is . . . by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      The prospect that I would rather avoid would be letting my leg wander into the path of the water being ejected...

      I don't know exactly where "painful bruising" ends and "flaying" begins; but I don't really want to find out the hard way...

    2. Re:"Hi, I'm Johnny Knoxville, and this is . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The prospect that I would rather avoid would be letting my leg wander into the path of the water being ejected...

      I don't know exactly where "painful bruising" ends and "flaying" begins; but I don't really want to find out the hard way...

      The still before the video (I didn't hit play) shows someone in a full body suit. I'd presume for exactly the reason you stated.

  9. 2 hours? by binarstu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why is 2 hours of flight time an apparent selling point for this thing? Why would anyone need or want to hover a few feet above the surface of a lake for 2 hours nonstop? Granted, you can "fly" much longer than in more traditional jetpacks, but it seems a bit like bragging about a car that can go 600 miles on a single tank but is permanently tethered to the gas station.

    That said, it sure looks fun to try.

    1. Re:2 hours? by chichilalescu · · Score: 1

      personally, I see it as an alternative to a water scooter. however, this thing allows you to go over the water at a relatively large height, and might be useful in a search because you see more. Although I don't know if it wouldn't in fact turn out to be cheaper to just use helicopters in the search (where you see even more).
      Anyway, it's not in any way like a car tethered to the gas station. planes work the same way, but with air (they pull and push air, this thing pulls and pushes water).

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    2. Re:2 hours? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would be impressive if cars were still a novelty and couldn't go more than 200 meters on a tank. Even 10 miles/gallon would be impressive then. It doesn't make a practical car yet, but it paves the way to making one.
      At this point there are no practical jetpacks, but a longer flight time is one of the requirements of any future practical jetpack and this is a step forward in that respect.

    3. Re:2 hours? by rikkards · · Score: 1

      From the video I watched it looked like if you wanted any kind of speed you couldn't be as high. The concern I would have with that is assuming you got up to a good clip and assuming you are only 4 feet off the water. If the pump happens to go through a wake and gets slowed down. Which would hit the water first, your feet or your face?
      Basically it looks like if all you want to do is hover then this is great, if you want to get anywhere in a reasonable amount of time, 100k can get you a pretty decent boat.

    4. Re:2 hours? by Takichi · · Score: 1

      No idea if it's practical as I have no experience, but I was thinking this could eventually be useful for maintenance on large ships. You're in water and have a power source, so just jump over the edge, do any repairs that need to be done, and rocket back up on deck. Of course there are other options, like sending boats into the water or using rope ladders, but this has the potential of being faster and more flexible.

    5. Re:2 hours? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, my car CAN go 600 miles on a single (55l) tank, even without beeing tethered to a gas station.

    6. Re:2 hours? by Dan541 · · Score: 1

      Alternatively a parachute connected to a boat.

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    7. Re:2 hours? by Hatta · · Score: 1

      Depending on the lake, 2 hours might not even be enough time to get across. It's only vertical distance that's tethered. Horizontal movement is free.

      I mean, when you think about it "why would anyone want or need to walk around on the surface of the ground for two hours nonstop"?

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    8. Re:2 hours? by timeOday · · Score: 1
      Although in this case you get to steer yourself around.

      It isn't world peace, but I could imagine paying $10 for a 5 minute ride on it.

      Compared to a jet ski, not jolting along the chop would be nice.

    9. Re:2 hours? by M8e · · Score: 1

      Parasailing behind a remote controlled speed boat would be fun though.

    10. Re:2 hours? by kenh · · Score: 1

      Jet packs, by comparison, average about 20 seconds...

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    11. Re:2 hours? by MrMacman2u · · Score: 0

      Granted, you can "fly" much longer than in more traditional jetpacks, but it seems a bit like bragging about a car that can go 600 miles on a single tank but is permanently tethered to the gas station.

      Kind of like a the infamous Hummer...

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    12. Re:2 hours? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2 hours is enough time to commute to work. You can fly to your secret base hidden in a extinct volcano from the mainland and if you refuel even fly back to the mainland for lunch.

    13. Re:2 hours? by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      Flying at 35 milies an hour with 30' off freedom would be awesome. You could travel up to 70 miles with this. I assume the mileage per gallon of fuel is pretty terrible (maybe 2 miles per gallon?)

      However, I can also see this as a way to do certain kinds of maintenance work as well.

      Falling 30' could kill you- the odds are slim. But it's possible. But fun!

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    14. Re:2 hours? by Dan541 · · Score: 1

      Until you realise you forgot to put fresh batteries in the remote.

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    15. Re:2 hours? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I imagine it's similar to those silly jet boat things that people ride around on. There's not much point to them either, they can only travel over water and you can't really go anywhere with them, and yet people still buy them for some reason.

    16. Re:2 hours? by hairyfish · · Score: 1

      Why is 2 hours of flight time an apparent selling point for this thing? Why would anyone need or want to hover a few feet above the surface of a lake for 2 hours nonstop? Granted, you can "fly" much longer than in more traditional jetpacks, but it seems a bit like bragging about a car that can go 600 miles on a single tank but is permanently tethered to the gas station.

      It has a range of about 100kms. That's enough to travel England to France, England to Ireland, Denmark to Norway, Poland to Sweden, Honk Kong to Macau, Australia to Indonesia etc etc With a bit of fine tuning there could be a reasonable, albeit niche market for something like this.

  10. Dupe? by Nibbler(C) · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think i've seen this before, I wonder where that was. Oh wait, it was two years ago, on /. http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/02/17/0058202/Jet-Pack-Runs-For-Hours-On-Water

    1. Re:Dupe? by scdeimos · · Score: 1

      They must be slipping. Dupes are normally in the same week.

    2. Re:Dupe? by bhsx · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not a dupe, the old article was about him trying to bring this thing to market. He's now selling these to anyone with the cash.

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    3. Re:Dupe? by userlame · · Score: 1

      Funny, I've seen this before, too.

    4. Re:Dupe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh no, I got rickrolled!

  11. big dick + mindless puppet overrule millions? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what a surprise?

  12. old joke by roman_mir · · Score: 3, Funny

    Reminds me of an old joke about a wrist watch with a built in TV and built in radio and photo-camera and various other tools.

    The only catch was that if you bought that watch you always had to carry 2 suitcases with you.

    They were filled with batteries.

    1. Re:old joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was fixed in version 2.0

      Our consciousness includes a TV, radio, camera, optical laser, adapting shield and more.
      We are Borg.

      Resistance is futile

    2. Re:old joke by FrostDust · · Score: 2

      Reminds me of an old joke about a wrist watch with a built in TV and built in radio and photo-camera and various other tools.

      Old indeed. Now it's hard to find a smartphone that doesn't have these features.

    3. Re:old joke by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      You just had to rub it in, didn't you?

    4. Re:old joke by M8e · · Score: 1

      Never seen a smartphone in the form of a wrist watch with all that built in.

  13. How about using it underwater? by MartinSchou · · Score: 2

    I'm watching that clip and wondering if you strap on SCUBA gear, make the engine neutrally buoyant, include oxygen tanks for its engine, and just go nuts under water.

    Now you have a jet-powered underwater propulsion system. That's got to be rather cool and maybe even useful?

    1. Re:How about using it underwater? by Yetihehe · · Score: 1

      Cool maybe, but a simple ducted propeller like in speedboats would be more effective. And hey - it still emits a jet of water...

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    2. Re:How about using it underwater? by mcarmstrong14 · · Score: 1

      Good idea. I propose leaving the "boat" with the motor on the surface. And since you are tethered by the propulsion system, you might as well lose the tank and just use a hookah system and put an air compressor on the "boat" too. The hose used for propulsion could be significantly smaller in diameter (think garden hose size) since you are not fighting gravity. Underwater scooters (Diver Propulsion Vehicles) max out at about 3 mph (1.3 m/s). Using this system, I'm sure you could beat that. The hose length could be 33 ft (10m) with the possibility of an extension up to 66 ft (20m).

    3. Re:How about using it underwater? by Mr.+Flibble · · Score: 1

      There are already more versatile underwater propulsion systems that do not require a tether. There is even a "dolphin" high performance submarine that is more suited to the task. Plus, couple that with the potential risk for an air-embolism if you descend or ascend quickly and you have a recipie for disaster. It makes considerable more sense (and fun!) to use above the water.

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    4. Re:How about using it underwater? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Yeah. Put a shark fin on the top, add a laser or two and you're golden!

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  14. 150Kg person by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    So I guess it's not much use for Americans :-)

    *ducks and runs*

    1. Re:150Kg person by OddJobBob · · Score: 1

      Well that is where you are wrong. Mark II will use liposuction to provide propulsion and body sculpting.

  15. Space elevator by mangu · · Score: 1

    For a long enough tower (too lazy to compute now, but much larger than the distance Earth-Moon), the velocity given by a normal human toss would be enough

    Much lower than that, it's geostationary altitude.

    1. Re:Space elevator by chichilalescu · · Score: 1

      you're right, obviously. I forgot the tower would be spinning with the Earth's surface.

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  16. It's... beautiful... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Imagine a Beowulf-cluster of...

    No, I'm sorry guys, I've got nothing.

  17. Replace HOSE with LASER and they are working on it by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 1

    This is the idea behind laser powered flight. Rather then carry the energy (fuel) up with you, you fire the energy at the craft and save a lot of weight. The reason they want to use a laser and not a fuel hose is that nobody is willing to untangle several kilometers of hose after the launch and put it in the rather large garden shed.

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  18. That looks like about as much fun as... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...piloting a wave runner from the top of a ten foot pole.

  19. Slashdot's Trusty Time Machine at work! by arielCo · · Score: 4, Informative

    Jet Pack Runs For Hours On Water

    Posted by kdawson on Tuesday February 17 2009, @06:11AM

    from the got-your-back dept.

    Ponca City, We love you writes

    Jet packs have been around for half a century, but there's always been one problem: they run out of fuel in around 30 seconds. Now a German company has taken the standard jet pack design, run a fat yellow hose out the back, and connected it to a small unmanned boat that houses an engine, pump, and fuel tank and sends pressurized water up the hose, where it's shot out by two nozzles just behind the wearer's shoulders. Called the JetLev-Flyer, the design purportedly can reach a height of 15 meters, a speed of 72 kph, and a range of 300 kilometers based on four hours of flying time. A digital fly-by-wire system is used to control the throttle. Future designs may achieve higher altitudes, higher top speeds, and extended range, and even travel below the water's surface. The American manufacturers claim it is 'amazingly easy to learn and operate' and they're taking orders now at $130,000 each.

    It's 2009 again!

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    1. Re:Slashdot's Trusty Time Machine at work! by ciaohound · · Score: 1

      they're taking orders now at $130,000 each.

      Perhaps the news peg is the $30,000 price cut since then?

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    2. Re:Slashdot's Trusty Time Machine at work! by dadelbunts · · Score: 1

      Yea i was wondering the same thing. This story has been popping up on other websites as well. I believe Jalopnik was running the same thng. All i could think was "I think i saw this story on slashdot a while back". Maybe i should stop being on slashdot so much.

    3. Re:Slashdot's Trusty Time Machine at work! by The+Great+Pretender · · Score: 1

      but it went down by $30K, it's news again!!

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  20. 150 kilos by gatkinso · · Score: 0

    Guess they wont be selling many in America.

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    1. Re:150 kilos by maxume · · Score: 1

      Nah, that makes it clear they appropriately sized their product for the market. Very few of the sort of people that would bother buying something like this weigh much more than 120 kilos, or even 100.

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    2. Re:150 kilos by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      100kg isn't outside the realm of possibility by any means. For someone 6 feet tall, not an unusual height, 220 pounds only qualifies you as "overweight"(or nontrivially muscled) not even "obese". I'm assuming that the cruise/tour/hotel companies that are likely to be buying these things count the sort of "middle aged middle management who has a lot more disposable income, and a lot less time for exercise, than he did when he was 25" as standard customers.

      150kg, though, is a fairly generous ceiling.

    3. Re:150 kilos by maxume · · Score: 1

      6 feet is somewhat unusual, it is approximately a full standard deviation above the average.

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    4. Re:150 kilos by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      Fair enough.

      It would be interesting to see, though, for this relatively pricey device, if the users skew a bit taller than average because of the height-earnings correlation that has been observed...

  21. I thought that initially but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Watch the video... It looks like the bit on the water gets pulled along by the hose as the user flies around.

    The only constraint is the height and that you stay over water.

  22. Waterfall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You've just got to make sure, if you're using it on a river that your base unit doesn't fly down a waterfall - even rapids would give quite a kick.

  23. The missing bits by blackest_k · · Score: 1

    it costs $100,000 and your dragging a huge engine in a boat behind you.

    would it save you from getting seasick or would you be bouncing up and down with the swell anyway?
    wonder if it would be any use for sea rescue its relatively quick at 35 mph and you'd have a reasonable chance of spotting someone in the water. cheaper than a helicopter any way.

    diving with it or something similar might be another interesting possibility

    looks like fun anyway.

    Renting it could prove popular

    1. Re:The missing bits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "wonder if it would be any use for sea rescue its relatively quick at 35 mph and you'd have a reasonable chance of DROWNING someone in the water"

      Fixed that for you.

  24. Wile E Coyote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This so reminds me of Wile E Coyote. Finally, the Acme Jet Pack!

    I'd particularly like to watch this when the flier is up at maximum height and going 35mph, and suddenly the boat hits something and stops.

    1. Re:Wile E Coyote by Locutus · · Score: 3, Funny

      or Wile E. Coyote tries to "fly" over a tree branch and then gets wrapped around it in every decreasing circles before sudden and final deceleration occurs.

      And don't forget flying over the water falls, realizing the error, looks down and sees the boat falling fast, hose stretching and stretching, and then yeowwwwwwww!

      LoB

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    2. Re:Wile E Coyote by Sulphur · · Score: 2

      This so reminds me of Wile E Coyote. Finally, the Acme Jet Pack!

      I'd particularly like to watch this when the flier is up at maximum height and going 35mph, and suddenly the boat hits something and stops.

      Don't forget that thrilling ride under a bridge.

  25. Needs an application by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pretty useless, as is.
    On the other hand, connecting it to a fire hydrant and using it to wash the windows of a 3 or 4 story building....

    1. Re:Needs an application by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, connecting it to a fire hydrant and using it to wash the windows of a 3 or 4 story building....

      Not to mention any cars underneath parked within a 50 foot radius.

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    2. Re:Needs an application by Sulphur · · Score: 1

      Pretty useless, as is.
      On the other hand, connecting it to a fire hydrant and using it to wash the windows of a 3 or 4 story building....

      Leave the pilot on the ground, and see if it can fight fires farther up. One might look at hydraulically powered fans.

  26. Pop up Target by syntheticmemory · · Score: 1

    Perfect for drawing fire on the battlefield.

  27. Meh by shoehornjob · · Score: 1

    One more overpriced toy that I'll never have. Next

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    1. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One more overpriced toy that I'll never have. Next

      Not really.

      They will be selling to rental companies at tourist spots so you can hire one for a while. I can't afford a jet-ski but I've been on one a few times thanks to rental companies.

  28. Ready market found for device. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 2
    If the length of the hose could be increased to say 30 feet, enough to put you over the rail of a cargo freighter, you can sell these devices to the Somali pirates!

    Of course first US Navy and Marines will fund the R&D to develop it as AMBaIV (Advanced Marine Boarding and Inspection Vehicle) to serve in the blockade missions. The R&D Center will be in the home district of some powerful senator. So it will get funded. Then the specs will creep up, ability to hover with a machine gun ... 200 rounds of ammunition... SatNav system... eventually a 105 mm naval gun will be added (and 200 rounds of ammunition). Eventually the cost of the system will be so much that actual deployment will never get funded. But using all the R&D knowledge accumulated in the Defense Contractor, they will create a civilian version. Which will start out as a recreational vehicle. Once the production tooling and factories have been paid off the prices will drop. So the early units coming out of service will have very low resale value. These will be bought by the Somali pirates.

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    1. Re:Ready market found for device. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Woudn't that be amazing!!

      You're transporting your thousands of kilos of coke, and then suddenly water jet pack powered marines hover over the side of your ship and board it! Run they'll all scream... and then the marines can open fire kill everybody and wash the blood off the deck when they leave!

      2 in 1

    2. Re:Ready market found for device. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sigh, Metric vs. Imperial System...

      It is attached to a 10 meter hose, which is a couple of feet over 30 ft.

  29. I'll Bite by DaMattster · · Score: 1

    It is nifty but completely impractical. According to the article, it needs a 250hp motor to drive a pump to deliver enough thrust to achieve some levitation. It is cool as a stunt, but unless they figure out how to cram 250hp into something small and light weight, I'd say it is showmanship.

  30. Travel to work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now all I need is a canal between my home and workplace and I can ride a (water) jet-pack to work.

    On second thought, call me back when I can get a real jet-pack that runs for 30 minutes or so.

  31. Upgrade to a four hour time by bxbaser · · Score: 1

    turn of the pump and ride in the boat

  32. Why not just... by kenh · · Score: 2

    Put a 10 meter scissor-lift on a boat?

    I can't imagine shooting a massive fire hose directly into the water is exactly "stealthy", I'm not sure how stable the guy floating on that water jet is, making recon photos (at the least) blurry, and if you have to keep a boat and a tether with you, what are you saving versus a boat with a scissor-lift.

    Or, perhaps you could use one of those "mobile surveillance towers" I've seen in some parking lots/sporting events

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  33. Where did the canoe go? by clyde_cadiddlehopper · · Score: 1

    So what happens when hundreds of gallons per minute are spewed at high velocity directly downward into a less-than-fully-stable watercraft?

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  34. Super Mario Sunshine!! Woo-Hoo!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Will it have adjustable nozzles and can I spray away pollution with it?

  35. next invention: barge, crane, a cable tied to vest by Locutus · · Score: 1

    with this rig and a remote control in the victim^h^h^h^h^h^hthrill seekers hands he or she can feel like they are flying. For an accessory, change out that cable for a bungee cord and really have some fun. Get your friends to try it and don't tell them you have the extra over-ride remote and slap them into the water a few time for great youtube video fun.

    LoB

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  36. military use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like something the Seals could use to board a ship rather quickly.

  37. Brilliant! by jopet · · Score: 1

    So this is jut like hanging from a crane boom mounted on a boat, just much more expensive, using much more energy and not as safe?

    Brilliant.

  38. Or a mast... by Kupfernigk · · Score: 1

    Bosun's chair and a block or two, medieval technology and cheap.

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  39. Oh dear. by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1
    But let us read the fine submission again:

    enough to lift a human weighing up to 150 kilos.

    That is one fucking big human that has no business being in the air.

    1. Re:Oh dear. by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

      enough to lift a human weighing up to 150 kilos.

      That is one fucking big human that has no business being in the air.

      If Americans read that as pounds they'd tell you that's actually quite a small person.

      On second thoughts, even if they understood it correctly they'd say the same thing.

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    2. Re:Oh dear. by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      But let us read the fine submission again:

      enough to lift a human weighing up to 150 kilos.

      That is one fucking big human that has no business being in the air.

      or in the water...

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    3. Re:Oh dear. by Chrisq · · Score: 1

      But let us read the fine submission again:

      enough to lift a human weighing up to 150 kilos.

      That is one fucking big human that has no business being in the air.

      or in the water...

      Its the new kamikaze, they drop him on the enemy. They have to do something with the fat kids when the draft starts.

    4. Re:Oh dear. by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      enough to lift a human weighing up to 150 kilos.

      That is one fucking big human that has no business being in the air.

      Speaking as someone trying (not very hard) to get my weight down from ~95kg to ~85kg, you're not terribly wrong.

      On the other hand, since I'm currently working at sea where there are sometimes operations on the vessel which require "overside" work ... I read that as being quite useful for a 100kg human plus around 30 kg of tools, spare parts, that sort of thing. I'm not sure that I'd want to work on the sharp end of this particular Indian Rope Trick, but with a payload of ~150kg, this has some fairly obvious industrial applications.

      Sorry. Boring. That's life.

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  40. Re:WE'RE SCIENCE by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 1

    You only live twice, twice.

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  41. Meh. by PPH · · Score: 1

    Just like after a kegger.

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  42. hovercraft ? by fikx · · Score: 1

    so, I'm wondering if this is better or worse than the method used by traditional hovercraft? more efficient? less? safer in rough seas?

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  43. Stop being practical everyone! by OrangeTide · · Score: 2

    This device will likely be immensely popular. Even though there are dozens of posts here that dismiss it because one flaw or another, they overlook one of the most obvious and lucrative fields. Tourism. Just like getting parasailing (boat pulling a parachute) is not a practical form of travel, it is quite fun. Also, I suspect the 8.5 meter water jet flight is probably safer than the 15-20m parasail experience. Expect to see jetpack trips on every popular tourist beach in a few years.

    From TFA: "The rub is that this costs $100,000 to buy. At this price, it is aimed more at water-sports–rental businesses than at the private user"

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  44. Enema by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If this thing went wrong it could give you the enema from hell.

  45. Re:WE'RE SCIENCE by Barryke · · Score: 1

    If only /. would be so smartass as to find its own dupes. I saw the same story years ago, and i believe it even was on the frontpage.

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  46. 2 year old story by xclr8r · · Score: 1

    I'm sure there have been some small improvements but here is the story from 2 years ago.

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    1. Re:2 year old story by xclr8r · · Score: 1
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