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Duke Nukem Forever Not Edited For Australia

dotarray writes "In case you still somehow didn't believe yesterday's news that Duke Nukem Forever had been given an MA15+ rating in Australia – effectively evading the notoriously strict censors, GamePron now has confirmation that the Duke has not been edited in any way for an Australian release. Hooray!"

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  1. Won't somebody think of the children!? by grantek · · Score: 2, Funny

    What about all these 15-18 year old kids who'll think it's okay to throw pipe bombs at a mutant pig cop!?

    1. Re:Won't somebody think of the children!? by drolli · · Score: 2

      Uhm... You mean the 18+12 year waiting time old children?

    2. Re:Won't somebody think of the children!? by deniable · · Score: 5, Funny

      Age verification question: Do you remember the initial announcement?

  2. This joke is going too far by iYk6 · · Score: 4, Funny

    This joke is going too far. They have official ratings now? Can they get in trouble for submitting something that they have no intention of finishing?

    1. Re:This joke is going too far by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 5, Funny

      It is actually rated for 8 year olds, but that is because they'll be ten years older before the game releases.

    2. Re:This joke is going too far by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2

      Two reasons, really:

      - The game, Duke Nukem 3d. Yes, it's nothing special looking back. But for the time, the technology was very advanced. People playing this game had only just finished playing Doom II and it's ilk, so DN3D was something special there. It's use of humor was something never before seen in the genre, and that it sometimes got just a little raunchy just made it even funnier. It didn't actually have anything even slightly explicit, but by the standards of the time, it was new.

      -The timeing. Just as you said: To most of the slashdot crowd, DN3D was one of the first FPSs they ever played. Of course they have fond memories - as well as all the cheat codes burned into their brains.

    3. Re:This joke is going too far by cgenman · · Score: 2

      Duke Nukem isn't news.

      Duke Nukem Forever is news. The game has been in development for longer than some of the people who will play it. The trials, tribulations, and vaporware status have fallen into legend. Wired named it vaporware of the year for something like 3 years straight, before giving it a lifetime achievement award and sending it to bed. It's right up there with "Chinese Democracy" as far as failure to launch / failure to fail goes, except this cost way more money. And even once it was finally, absolutely, Developers-Went-Broke-And-Closed-Up-Shop dead, a white-horse investor swooped back in and rescued the project.

      It's not that Duke Nukem was great. But Duke Nukem Forever is a legend.

    4. Re:This joke is going too far by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      They have box art! Real live box art! And on the box art, his gun is his penis! So you know the game is going to be awesome.

      So basically one shot, maybe followed by another a couple of hours later, and then you're done?

      I guess it's one of those sniper games then.

    5. Re:This joke is going too far by Stormwatch · · Score: 2

      Chinese Democracy cost around $14 millions, and Duke Nukem Forever cost up to $30 millions. Now, while Chinese Democracy is the most expensive record ever, DNF is not even in the top 10. So I'd say Chinese Democracy was far more wasteful (but still a damn good album).

    6. Re:This joke is going too far by C_amiga_fan · · Score: 2

      >>>it's nothing special looking back. But for the time, the technology was very advanced

      Speak for yourself. I am always impressed what game programmers can squeeze out of sub-100 MHz processors.

      Heck even now, watching youtube on a sub-1000 processor is pretty damn impressive. (Points to PowerPC Amiga running at 500 MHz.) Software today is so overbloated, it makes you wonder what could be accomplished with some of the old Atari/Commodore programmers of the 80s (people who knew how to make every bit count).

      So yeah I find the old 90s games impressive. 3D polygon graphics on 30 MHz playstations and N64s? Wow.

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    7. Re:This joke is going too far by elrous0 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hush! Do you want to ruin one of the greatest April Fool's Day jokes of all time?!?!?

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    8. Re:This joke is going too far by hairyfeet · · Score: 2

      I'd say several reasons, and not just nostalgia. 1.-It was one of the first games (and there have been few recently) that threw in copious amounts of pop culture references which was fun. IIRC Bruce Campbell tried to sue for all of his lines they blatantly ripped.

      2.-It was one of the first 3D shooters that didn't take itself seriously and this age of CoD MoH WWII "lets storm Normandy AGAIN!" we really really REALLY need that. Realism is fine occasionally but it is a game and games should be above all FUN with a capital F. That is why I have been recommending "Just Cause 2" to my friends, as it is the most unrealistic GTA style game ever created, and it is refreshing to be pulling moves that would make Batman yell "bullshit!". I'd love for me some Duke Nukem total insanity like guns that shrink bad guys so you can squish them like little bugs. Crazy is fun!

      3.-Yes there was the crude sexist humor, but that was part of the charm because old Duke was supposed to be a throwback. He was a classic action hero, a Rambo mixed with Terminator and spouting Bruce Campbell style (or often just Bruce Campbell's) typical action hero smart mouths. It is like in Last Action Hero when Arnold does Shakespeare "To be or not to be.../castle explodes, Arnold lights cigar/... not to be". that would be a classic Duke scene, and despite all the games focusing on "the cinema experience" they seem to lose the attitude in favor of realism, but attitude is fun!

      I could go on, but you get the idea. Sometimes it is just a blast to have some good mindless destructive fun while being rewarded with smartmouth attitude in classic action hero fashion. It is the same over the top attitude that made Evil Dead or They Live cult classics. If you don't own it Good Old Games has the original Atomic Edition for just $6, works on XP-Windows 7 X64, even runs on Linux, and has all the mods linked below it (including the high res mod, must have IMHO) all in one handy spot. Try it and enjoy some mindless sexist fun today!

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  3. Kidding? by ahaubold · · Score: 2

    I don't get it. Duke Nukem Foerever? Rating? You kidding me?

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  4. The right thing... by bart416 · · Score: 2

    Duke Nukem won't allow you to censor him, he'll just kick your ass.

  5. Don't even try to understand the logic of it by acehole · · Score: 2

    Duke Nukem 3D back in the early 90s was refused classification and had been re-released as a censored version.

    There is next to no consistency with the classification board, no logic. The only consistent thing is that most of their reasoning makes little to no sense when they've previously waved through worse games than the one they are classifying at the time.

    Not long after the "Atomic" edition of Duke-3D was released in all its glory. No censorship, same game just with 'more'. Makes sense doesnt it?

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  6. Re:Not censored in australia? by Merls+the+Sneaky · · Score: 3, Informative

    Left 4 dead 2 had zombie corpses despawning before they hit the ground, no decapitations or amputations, no blood or gore.

    It's horrendous to play in that condition. The rules are not applied equally either. It depends on which particular censor you get. Studios can of course contest the rating to a higher board which seems to be a little better.

  7. This worries me greatly. by dadelbunts · · Score: 2

    I remember Duke Nukem 3D having an adults only rating. That title for the time was pushing boundaries. With interactive strippers, heavy profanity and hell, he rips off an aliens head and shits down its neck. Thats what made it great. If even Australia gives this game a 15+ rating how watered down will it be.

    1. Re:This worries me greatly. by dadioflex · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Probably similar to Germany in that they're okay with killing non-humans and nobody outside of the US hates tits.

    2. Re:This worries me greatly. by totally+bogus+dude · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The problem with our current video game rating system is that MA15+ is the highest we have. The only other option the classification board has is to refuse the game classification altogether, thereby preventing it from being sold in Australia. This results in things that shouldn't pass a MA15+ rating getting one, because they're not so bad they should be refused classification altogether.

      It's also why the idiotic "gotta protect the children!" crowd who oppose a higher rating for video games are showing themselves to be unthinking hypocrites who have zero interest in actually reducing the ease of access to violent or 'harmful' games by minors, and are instead interested only in shoving their own particular moralities down the throat of every adult in the country.

    3. Re:This worries me greatly. by TheCarp · · Score: 3, Funny

      > Probably similar to Germany in that they're okay with killing non-humans

      antisemite! :)

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  8. Censorship, sorry "classification" board is useles by mjwx · · Score: 4, Informative

    effectively evading the notoriously strict censors

    The Classification Board is aware of just how much of a joke it's become. They've figured out that anything remotely popular now has to be given an M15+ rating regardless of content because they've been threatened by state governments to have their mandate pulled if they start trying to censor things. Basically they've become toothless, refuse classification and the media will drag you thought the mud so they'll just rubber stamp any level of violence and nudity even when it should be clearly restricted.

    Basically this was the worst possible scenario for former attorney general Michael Atkinson, as 15 yr olds can now legally buy material that should be in the Restricted (R18+) category ironically because Atkinson opposed the introduction of a restricted category for video games. Hell, a 12 or 13 yr old could get it as they dont really do ID checks for M rated films, not to mention parents who dont understand the content that will buy it.

    Well you made the bed Michael, now you have to lie in it.

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  9. It was all about gameplay by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Duke Nukem wasn't just about the (admittedly very juvenile) humor and one liners.

    It actually had really great gameplay for the time. To this day Duke Nukem ranks right up there as one of my favorite multi-player FPS games.

    In part it's because of the variety of weapons - you didn't just have guns but you had things like shrink rays. What other game even since then has actually had the player scale down to a tiny version of themselves and then try to elude the massive pursuers around them....

    And then there's the jet-packs. Awesome aerial firefights, or flying up to office buildings high above. In todays modern games you are only begrudgingly allowed to even jump, much less fly outside of something like a helicopter.

    But really my favorite part was the pipe-bombs and trip mines. No other game since Duke has done booby trapping nearly as well as Duke, which gave you the option to either trigger a trap yourself (pipe bomb) or have an unwitting enemy set it off themselves (trip mine). Best of all, you could combine both for the ultimate trap of doom.

    My favorite memory of all time is an extended jet-pack fight with one other guy between sky-scrapers, which ended when he came up an elevator shaft that I had lined with something like six trip-mines. BOOM.

    So I have no idea if the new game will be any good but I think it still carries a lot of the same weapons, thus I am really looking forward to it way more than I should be. If it does come out and you go wandering up the skyscrapers, I'd take the stairs if I were you.

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  10. Forgot to mention destructible environments by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    Duke Nukem was also one of the earlier games to really embrace destruction of the environment, which is another aspect I hope they have carried forward and modernized.

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  11. Re:Aren't Australians all the grandchildren of rap by Sparx139 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I know I deserve a whoosh for this, but I'm in a pedantic mood
    So long as we're ignoring the huge figures of people moving here from overseas: Actually, we're the grandchildren of petty theives. The nasty ones all would've been hanged back in England.

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  12. Re:Aren't Australians all the grandchildren of rap by Cimexus · · Score: 2

    Bzzt. The vast majority of convicts sent to British colonies in the 1700s (which includes Australia, and GASP, also America pre-1776!) were petty crooks. Small time thieves, people stealing some food for their family, or general undesirables that managed to piss off the establishment. Serious criminals (murderers and rapists etc.) would most definitely have been executed in England at the time. They wouldn't waste time and money shipping them to the other side of the planet.

  13. A good test platform by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 2

    Perhaps the entire industry can finally get it through its head that labeling a game with a stronger rating than "M" is a better alternative than heavy censoring and will not be the death knell of sales for that game. Just because Wal-Mart will not carry it does not mean that the entire pool of gamers will ignore it!