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FBI Releases File On the Anarchist Cookbook

An anonymous reader noted that the FBI has released its file on The Anarchist Cookbook, the 1971 manual of mayhem. It's a pretty long PDF that isn't actually OCRd but there's some crazy stuff in there. But my personal favorite is the scanned in images of 3.5" floppy disks.

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  1. Eh, it's tame... by TWX · · Score: 4, Funny

    There was a chemistry teacher at my high school who had a copy printed off and bound on his front counter desk.

    Of course, he also like to set up those little green plastic army men on that counter during tests, pour flammable liquid over the scene, then light it and play with them, making sound of death and agony as they melted.

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    1. Re:Eh, it's tame... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Funny

      They have to offer some job perks to encourage people who could be chemists to endure a classroom packed with children...

    2. Re:Eh, it's tame... by shuz · · Score: 3, Funny

      Nice, I remember my Sr. high school chemistry teacher not smiling a lot, except for on the one day of the year when he demonstrates the power of group 1 alkali metals and acetylene. For the acetylene he would fill a balloon with the gas, open up all the windows as well as open fire doors to the outside, then had a student wearing protective gear use a glowing splint to pop the balloon. He would be giggling the entire time, which to say was a little disconcerting at the time.

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    3. Re:Eh, it's tame... by rsilvergun · · Score: 2

      isn't that one of the perks?

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    4. Re:Eh, it's tame... by Hatta · · Score: 2

      You're talking about the brighter students in the class here, right?

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    5. Re:Eh, it's tame... by Dare+nMc · · Score: 2

      >For the acetylene he would fill a balloon with the gas

      I assume it was a mix of acetylene and oxygen. Shop teacher would pop 3 balloons with a lighter, one pure oxygen, one pure acetylene, one much smaller balloon, mostly O2 with 1/3 acetylene. About the only difference in the first 2, was the pure acetylene left a bunch of soot behind. the third one, well it was much more exciting.

    6. Re:Eh, it's tame... by sg_oneill · · Score: 2

      When my dad was first working, back in the 60s, there was a prank they'd do on new guys, where they'd fill a big plastic bottle with acetyline, put a spark plug in and tape it under a car wired to the ignition. When someone would turn the car on, there would be a massive explosive sound, flames would engulf the car for about 1 nano-second and then it'd all stop, being largely a low heat-high flash flame unable of sustaining itself because the flames had nowhere to go.

      Insane and reckless stunt, but this was a full 25 years prior to 9/11 and was seen as just pranksterism. Anyway, one day the state supervisor turned up at the yard to see how a new employee was doing, and the guys , thinking that the car was the new guys, taped the acetyline bottle to his car.

      Well yeah.... lot of explaining to do. The big boss had less of a sense of humor about it then the lads did.

      In this day and age he'd probably have been thrown in front of the supreme court on terrorism charges.

      Admittedly at the high-end of stupid pranks.

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  2. I do the same thing. by imamac · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's how I backed up all my floppy disks, too!

    1. Re:I do the same thing. by TWX · · Score: 3, Funny

      I kept the important ones on the fridge with a magnet, so I knew where I could find them.

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  3. Great Page Turner for Miscreants ! by ACK!! · · Score: 2

    Ah the book with the recipe for napalm that will according to legend blow you the fuck up. Great stuff. Its all fun and games until someone explodes into a ball of fire.

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    1. Re:Great Page Turner for Miscreants ! by chemicaldave · · Score: 2

      Ah the book with the recipe for napalm that will according to legend blow you the fuck up. Great stuff. Its all fun and games until someone explodes into a ball of fire.

      You mean the OJ concentrate + gasoline formula (even styrofoam + gasoline)? Friends and I used that plenty of times as kids. It's actually very unimpressive, certainly no explosions.

    2. Re:Great Page Turner for Miscreants ! by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

      I'm fairly sure that it isn't supposed to explode, per se; but if it doesn't stick to kids it just ain't the real thing...

    3. Re:Great Page Turner for Miscreants ! by definate · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Then you should have tried the saltpeter and sugar smoke bomb. We smuggled quite a lot of saltpeter out from school. We also decided to throw in some match heads, and naphthalene (why not?). Cooked it on the oven, luckily in a small test quantity. All of a sudden, BAM, the room was full of smoke, from what was about a 50cent piece worth of material.

      The smoke was initially red, making me think the match heads got too hot. Scared the shit out of us. A red/white cloud, that races at your face, and quickly fills the entire kitchen. Mum was shocked, and impressed.

      I'd highly recommend this recipe to anyone. Given the quantities are small enough (and given we weren't extremely lucky), we had it literally blow up right in our faces, and all we got was a little smoky, and the shock of our lives.

      Having a look at ones like this...
      saltpeter smoke bombs inside
      Smoke bomb (KNO3 + Sugar)

      I don't know what we did differently. Perhaps they're using a low grade KNO3, we were using lab grade stuff, and we prepared the mixtures specifically, made sure it was consistent. Also, we did a very thin, but wide mixture. Additionally, maybe the match heads (and naphthalene?) made it react quicker. Also, it reaching some temperature on the oven, might have triggered it to all ignite at once.

      Ours was more like this...
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IZX80i4cpU

      But in a confined space, with a fraction of the material, and it all went off at once.

      BIG BADA BOOM! (Minus boom, just menacing hissing, and fuckloads of smoke)

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  4. analog scanner by tverbeek · · Score: 2

    Of course by "scanned" you mean "photocopied" (and that photocopy later scanned).

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  5. Re:Back in the day by JackieBrown · · Score: 2, Funny

    Back in the day, like in 7th grade or something, a guy at my school took it with him to school because we were all very cool back then. Then they had a meeting with his parents, lol.

    Almost as cool as using "lol"?

  6. Well meaning.. but evil by Hatta · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Disturbing to look at letter after letter to the FBI. All these well meaning people thinking that they're doing the right thing by reporting this work to the FBI, suggesting that the FBI stop it's publication. These people are a greater threat to freedom than anyone who has bought this book.

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  7. Dangerous book w/ incomplete instructions by WillAdams · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When my father found me reading a copy he took it and destroyed it, providing me w/ a copy of the TM 31-210 Improvised Munition Handbook instead:

    http://www.libertylib.com/improvised-munitions-handbook/improvised-munitions-handbook.shtml

    Which if nothing else should be mandatory reading for people who mistakenly believe gun control can be made to work --- I used to make black powder by collecting nitrates from underneath piles of cow manure in local fields, collecting charcoal when emptying the ashes from the fireplace and sulfur by purchasing sulfur candles from the local store (unfortunately there weren't any naturally occurring sulfur deposits w/in bicycling distance).

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    1. Re:Dangerous book w/ incomplete instructions by circletimessquare · · Score: 5, Insightful

      gun control is not meant to stop criminal masterminds and intelligent determined boy scouts. its meant to stop casual hotheads and insane people. if you stop people from getting guns easily someone like yourself and criminal geniuses will still have guns. nobody thinks making guns harder to get will stop someone like you

      so who won't get guns? the kind of guy who shoots up a disco because a chick looked at him funny or the guy who shot the congresswoman in arizona. these people aren't fine thinking specimens: they get guns simply because they are easy to get. so make guns less easy to get, and insane people and casual hotheads won't get guns. that's it

      you have to understand, they aren't trying that hard, at much of anything in life, and it is these sort of people that cause all of the tragedy with guns

      i would be able to understand gun lovers a little better if they didn't freak out at the most sane obvious and prudent restrictions on guns

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    2. Re:Dangerous book w/ incomplete instructions by bhlowe · · Score: 2

      Dangerous indeed. The smoke bomb recipe instructs you to heat the concoction with low heat to melt it into a sticky caramel. Skip that step and its a great recipe-- do that step and watch your parent's house fill with smoke and nearly burn down.

    3. Re:Dangerous book w/ incomplete instructions by WillAdams · · Score: 2

      Yeah, I should've poked around a bit for a better link:

      http://cryptome.org/0001/tm-31-210.htm

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    4. Re:Dangerous book w/ incomplete instructions by Ben4jammin · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I think there are a couple of issues here. First of all, how are you going to define a "casual hothead" before the fact? Sure it easy to see after the fact, but how do you define it beforehand in a way that isn't also going to snare a lot of people that it shouldn't?

      With someone who is insane, once they are diagnosed you have a paper trail. But what about before that? Exactly when are they insane? How can you tell before they act without also limiting the rights of everyone?

      The NICS guidelines (http://crime.about.com/od/guns/a/handgun_check.htm) can help, but what about people that up to a point have been good citizens, but for whatever reason, go off?

      And if you look at what has been going on in CA (http://www.redding.com/news/2009/oct/12/gov-signs-ammunition-sales-bill/) check this part out:

      De Leon spokesman Dan Reeves has said the local laws have helped police track down 200 criminals who bought handgun ammunition. Some were drug dealers and many had large caches of illegal guns or explosives

      So even with a BUNCH of laws, both state and federal, covering both guns AND ammo bad guys still get guns/ammo. Now true, they are referring to convicted felons, which is not what you were talking about. But none of those people were convicted felons the first time they committed a felony. Are you sure it is so easy to predict? At some point, if you aren't careful, the gun laws will just put law abiding citizens at a severe disadvantage without actually helping to keep guns out of the wrong hands. Where that point of diminished returns is, I don't know. But my point is that I think you are oversimplifying things a bit.

    5. Re:Dangerous book w/ incomplete instructions by nschubach · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I find it more sad that people think crime will be solved by removing the tools of that crime. After guns are removed and people start using knives they will be the first people to limit the size of knives people can buy. After that?

      Crimes of passion may be prevented by minor gun control... but I'd venture to say that the recent publicized acts were all premeditated and legality of purchase would have had little (if no) affect on the outcome. This wasn't some guy that decided one morning to go out and "get him a human head."

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    6. Re:Dangerous book w/ incomplete instructions by circletimessquare · · Score: 2

      you do realize that countries with more stringent gun control like japan, germany, etc., still have gun crime, but a heck of a lot less gun crime than the pointless carnage and mayhem that defines the usa. kid of counteracts your central premise and supports mine, no?

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    7. Re:Dangerous book w/ incomplete instructions by the_raptor · · Score: 2

      Nuts can just get a knife* or a brick and still kill lots of people. In most mass shootings the availability of a gun doesn't increase the mortality rate because the killer is either incompetent with the weapon or not thinking clearly enough to kill efficiently. eg the Arizona shooter who didn't even kill his primary target.

      The guy pissed off at his ex-girlfriend can still kill her with a knife. But if the woman had a gun she would have a far higher chance of winning the fight. And no the police won't protect someone in that situation. Here in Australia where you aren't allowed to have weapons for self-defence women in that situation have to hide in shelters because the police will do zero to actively protect them.

      Epidemic violence is due to social conditions and a lack of social welfare, not the availability of weapons. Magic all the firearms out of America and the gang-bangers would just resort to stabbing each other.

      * We semi-regularly get incidents of lone killers successfully murdering or severely injuring most of a family in a home invasion with no firearms involved.

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    8. Re:Dangerous book w/ incomplete instructions by circletimessquare · · Score: 2

      so why does japan and germany, with stringent gun control, have so much less senseless deaths than the usa? germany and japan have knife wielding maniacs, and also gun shooting maniacs. but a heck of a lot LESS. that's the point

      the simple availability of a tool in general cuts down on the whether that tool is used or not. you talk about the deviant mind? i'm not talking about the deviant mind: i'm talking about the dimwitted thug, who, if he can't get a gun, just doesn't have a gun. i have no illusions that some criminal masterminds and hard working boy scouts will still get guns, no matter what the laws. but there is a class of person, who does most of the senseless killing in the usa, that is not thinking hard or trying hard about anything, and has a gun, only because guns are easy to get. make them hard to get, and such a low iq lazy go-with-the-flow loser simply won't have a gun

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    9. Re:Dangerous book w/ incomplete instructions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful
      (Posting anonymously because I don't think my employer would appreciate this post)

      I manage a gun store, and while I see two or three people a month denied guns through the formal background check process, I deny firearms to about twenty times as many people because in my "professional opinion" based on 10-60 seconds of observation they are too stupid to own a gun:
      1. The kid who comes in with his buddy, gawking at the guns, laughing and saying things like, "whoa, that shit is CLEAN, yo." That phrase automatically disqualifies at least one person a week.
      2. The guy who asks to see a semi-automatic, assault-style .22 and points it at other customers in the store, holding it sideways as if he's a gangsta' with a handgun in a movie
      3. The scent of marijuana that tells me I'm not about to sell a gun to whoever it is that's approaching the counter
      4. The guy who tells me he just wants something cheap because he's just going to shoot a bunch of people, then threatens me when I refuse to sell him anything (the police were at his house less than an hour later, he tried to run out the back door and was arrested for making a "terrorist threat" ... their term, not mine).
      5. The woman who tells me she's buying the gun for her husband/boyfriend because he can't buy it for himself (illegal immigrant/felon/domestic abuse record/etc), then tries to buy a gun at the next closest gun store 5 miles away 30 minutes later, and the next closest store 20 miles away a couple hours later, not realizing we all notify each other when straw purchases are attempted. And after pretending to allow the sale so he could record her info, the third guy points out that he knows when and where she's been for the last couple hours and that if they try another store she's going to jail.
      6. The list goes on...

      So, yes, gun control stops a lot of casually stupid people who clearly have no business owning a gun from obtaining one. It does not, and never will, stop an intelligent, determined person from obtaining one. The world is not a perfect place, but it would be a lot worse if we made it easy for casually stupid people to obtain guns.

    10. Re:Dangerous book w/ incomplete instructions by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

      Actually no it doesn't.

      You might want to look at what the nuts in Japan do use in their crimes before declaring it a success.

      You might also look at the demographics of our 'pointless carnage and mayhem'. If you exclude the 'inner cities' (you know what that's code for) we _are_ Canada.

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    11. Re:Dangerous book w/ incomplete instructions by grassy_knoll · · Score: 2

      Why do you make a distinction between "crime" and "gun crime"? Someone gets killed, I don't think it's OK so long as they weren't killed with a gun.

      In spree killings, having a gun doesn't mean there will be a higher body count. The link I cited previously had 7 dead, 10 injured from knife wounds. In one memorable shooting, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Gale#Shootings_at_the_Alrosa_Villa_club , there were 4 dead, 2 injured.

      Doesn't seem like controlling the tools controls the behavior, but instead the behavior adapts to different tools.

    12. Re:Dangerous book w/ incomplete instructions by i.r.id10t · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I also recall at least Germany having a problem with a government that systematically rounded up what they considered undesirables and putting them to death...

      The 2nd amendment isn't about hunting, self defense, or casual target shooting - it is about the ability for the citizenship to revolt against the government.

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    13. Re:Dangerous book w/ incomplete instructions by mr1911 · · Score: 2

      so who won't get guns? the kind of guy who shoots up a disco because a chick looked at him funny or the guy who shot the congresswoman in arizona. these people aren't fine thinking specimens: they get guns simply because they are easy to get. so make guns less easy to get, and insane people and casual hotheads won't get guns. that's it

      The problems with your idea on gun control:
      1. How do you tell who is a "casual hothead" or a potential "casual hothead"?
      2. Who decides the "casual hotheads" from the "OK" people?
      3. How do you prevent the "hotheads" from getting a gun?
      4. What if the "casual hothead" has access to a knife, car, container of gasoline and match, barrel of ammonia fertilizer and jug of diesel fuel, claw hammer, baseball bat, large rock, or any of the hundreds or thousands of items that have been used as weapons in the past, many with far more devistating effects than any handgun could ever conceivably cause?

      Sorry to scratch the lens of your rose colored glasses, but degrading the rights of all due fear of actions for of the few has never successfully accomplished anything but degrading the rights of all. The few you are afraid of will not abide by your rules, and although you may slightly alter their course you are very unlikely to stop them.

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    14. Re:Dangerous book w/ incomplete instructions by circletimessquare · · Score: 2

      Pease mod parent up. A gun store manager preaching common sense: gun ownership needs common sense limitations

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    15. Re:Dangerous book w/ incomplete instructions by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 2

      The objective is to reduce the availability of guns to the vast majority of people who lack either the knowledge or the motivation to fabricate the components from scratch.

      If we can't keep heroin away from junkies, how do you think we can keep firearms away from crooks? It's no harder to make automatic firearms than to make meth -- WWII resistance groups were able to make submachine guns in underground workshops. If we somehow made all firearms disappear from the U.S. tomorrow and sealed the borders, the black market would be supplying firearms to crooks in a matter of months if not weeks.

      The reason Japan has few guns is that, due to cultural and economic factors, there's little demand for them, not because they're hard to get if someone is determined.

      Sure, people under parole, probation, or other types of supervised release, and perhaps those out on bail or under protective orders (though here we have due process concerns), ought not to be permitted guns. Other than that, the idea that we can keep firearms away from people who are not under close supervision, is a sad joke.

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    16. Re:Dangerous book w/ incomplete instructions by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 2

      but guess what? A HECK OF A LOT LESS TRAGEDIES than the usa

      Japan, Germany, and many other developed nations have lower murder rates than the U.S. even if you disregard all of the shootings in the U.S. and look at just our non-firearms homicide rate versus other nation's total rate. We stab, bludgeon, and strangle each other at three times the rate that the people of Japan do.

      Our problem isn't so much legal access to guns as it is social, economic, and cultural factors.

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    17. Re:Dangerous book w/ incomplete instructions by aceboomblain · · Score: 2

      One word - women. The average man can physically overcome the average woman ... unless she has a gun. Maybe you are just some pervert who wants to make sure your victims won't have a gun. If you don't like that the Constitution of the United States of America allows me to carry firearms, perhaps you should move to one of the countries you cite.

    18. Re:Dangerous book w/ incomplete instructions by Hatta · · Score: 2

      so who won't get guns?

      The guy seeking to defend himself from an oppressive government, that's who. The 1st amendment exists to ensure the possibility of peaceful revolutions. The 2nd amendment exists in case the 1st fails.

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    19. Re:Dangerous book w/ incomplete instructions by juasko · · Score: 2

      Where I live there is a regulatioin of how big knives your allowed to carry in public places, unless it's used as a tool in your job and your there working. The regulation is 5cm long blade at maximum.

      Knifes of any size can though be transported freely, and used freely in non public areas. But you don't carry +5 cm blade in ur lessure time in public areas. Well this is quite much overlooked as many do carry their letherman or similar which is usually more than 5cm. But that is more a tool than a weapon.

    20. Re:Dangerous book w/ incomplete instructions by swillden · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The idea that a well armed populace is safer is clearly a boy scout fantasy.

      It's not at all clear to me, nor to many scholars who've studied the issue. I assume you've read John Lott's seminal work that kicked off an ongoing debate about the effect of widespread concealed carry, right? And the many other research papers that support his finding that the more law-abiding citizens are carrying firearms the less violent crime there is? And noted the fact that the (relatively few) studies that find to the contrary, with only a single exception, find that rather than more guns increasing crime, they have no significant effect? And I'm sure you've also read the FBI reports that analyze the question from the criminal's perspective, and conclude that citizen concealed carry is the largest single deterrent in the minds of most violent criminals. I can provide links, but all of this information is readily accessible via Google.

      I think this is a case where what appears to be common sense is actually just ignorance. Real study of the issue shows that privately-owned, concealed firearms are a real deterrent to crime, and the numbers show that the otherwise law-abiding "hothead" who "flips out" and starts shooting people doesn't exist. In the case of Jared Loughner, I think the crowd is lucky he had a gun. Without that, he'd have had to fall back on simpler and far more deadly weapons -- like his truck. What would be even better, of course, is to identify mentally ill people like him beforehand and get them into treatment. People wouldn't die, and they'd have happier lives. But the presence or absence of guns doesn't significantly affect that dynamic.

      It is time for the USA to join every other sober industrialized nation in the world and severely restrict guns. Reason will prevail, it always does. Even though we will pay a horrible price in senseless deaths until the stink finally gets too high. Eventually, too high even for those with an irrational religious conviction about the virtuousness of guns. The rest of us are waiting for you to finally come to their senses. We're not too patient though, we're sick of the carnage. Hurry up and figure it out.

      What carnage?

      Yes, approximately 30,000 people die in the US annually from gunshot wounds. That's terrible. But when you break down the numbers, you learn some interesting things.

      First, approximately half of those deaths are suicides. Without access to a firearm, would those people still be alive? Perhaps some of them, only because guns tend to be a quite effective way to do yourself in. But they're hardly the only way.

      Second, the vast majority of the deaths that remain are gang- and drug-related. If you want to eliminate most of those deaths, the solution is quite apparent: Legalize drugs. Regulate them tightly, but make them most readily available through legal channels and you'll cut the legs from under the gangs. Without drugs, they have no funding. Without funding, they die. We experienced all of this nearly a century ago, yet we continue paying a horrible price in senseless deaths and loss of civil liberties, and will continue paying it until we wise up and deal with drug abuse as a social and medical problem, not a criminal one.

      Third, we get the portion that are really hard to address: domestic violence. There are about 4,000 deaths per year where an angry spouse/child/parent/whatever grabs a gun and starts shooting. Some of these people would not die if guns were unavailable, and I don't really know what we can do about it. More readily-available family counseling services, perhaps. More shelters and programs to help battered women and children escape a dangerous situation before their abuser grabs a gun and kills them -- or before they grab a gun and kill their abuser (though I have to say I find those outcomes less heartbreaking... not that they're the best outcomes, but they're better than many of the alternatives).

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    21. Re:Dangerous book w/ incomplete instructions by modecx · · Score: 3, Interesting

      So, if you take the guns away, there are many other, perhaps more effective and or more creative tools for creating mayhem and destruction. Maybe he brings a knife, and casually walks around stabbing people., or maybe he casually walks out to the parking lot to retrieve his truck, only to casually drive it through the nightclub and the crowd waiting in front.

      Blades don't need to be reloaded, and if you think a pocket pistol has anything on a 4,000 pound guided cruise missile, well, I'm sorry for you.

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    22. Re:Dangerous book w/ incomplete instructions by Hatta · · Score: 2

      if the usa ever falls under the boot of fascism, god forbid, it will start with heavily armed factions. wake up from your quasireligious belief in the holy infallibility of the gun

      "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross" (Sinclair Lewis). Wake up from your quasi religious belief in the holy infallibility of the government. Either way, Fascism will come, the only question is whether we will have the tools to fight it when it does.

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    23. Re:Dangerous book w/ incomplete instructions by Noren · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So why does Switzerland, where most males from ages 19-34 are required to keep an assault rifle in their homes as part of their compulsory military service, have much less senseless deaths than the USA?

      There just might be reasons other then the simple availability of tools.

    24. Re:Dangerous book w/ incomplete instructions by jwhitener · · Score: 2

      In a previous slashdot debate about gun control, one guy described Canada's gun sales system, and it sounded pretty solid. They have more guns than we do, yet way less gun crime. There are probably many factors contributing to their lower gun crimes, but the the process for obtaining a gun must be one of the major ones.

      There was some amount of wait time, some sort of background check, and you had to have your wife sign a letter saying it was OK! (I'm assuming there is a list of people close to you that they would consider acceptable for the letter, father, mother, etc..).

      There were other provisions also. I think you had to have a gun license of some sort. I would assume that the license would require some periodic maintenance by turning in another family letter, and/or another background check.

      I may have gotten some details wrong. Read more on wikipedia if you want

  8. Congressional ignorance by Morris+Thorpe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The letter from congressman George Mahon (D-TX) is disheartening.
    He tells Hoover that "several of my constituents" have expressed alarm about the book. He then says he has not read the book but "the reviews have caused quite a bit of controversy." Finally, he asks for something to tell the constituents.
    The process is totally hollow. And isn't that the way things continue to work40 years later? If anything, it's worse. Today's congressperson would scream louder and vilify the opposition (all while willingly ignorant about the issue at hand.)

  9. Re:*THE* R L Shackelford? by Dachannien · · Score: 2

    Boy, I tell you what, man, you got that there dang ol' FBI hangin' around yer house, them black helicopters goin' chopchopchopchopchop all over the place, man.

  10. I Don't Understand This Legacy by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ah the book with the recipe for napalm ...

    I simply don't understand the legacy this "book" has gathered over the years. I, in my infinite youth, once read the manual and you know what jumped out at me wasn't all these alleged homemade napalm and pipe bombs ... in fact, that stuff seemed so low quality and stupid to me that I don't even remember much of it. And I've often been told the napalm in the book really isn't the best stuff you can make with homemade items. Apparently there are much better mediums to use with fuel like Vaseline (petroleum jelly) if you can get enough of it.

    But what really stuck out to my late teenage mind was how the author of it seemed to be obsessed with disruption. I remember it reading like a case study for "common" scenarios whereby you could operate within questionable circumstances to undermine regular corporate and government actions -- specifically in Western nations.

    For example, in one of the scenarios the book presupposes that you have a large contractor building some huge building right next door to your home that you refused to sell (like the beginning of the film Up). So it goes about how to put nails through strips of webbing, then lay them across the dig site at night and cover them with a bit of gravel to puncture holes in the tires of machinery. Or get used oil from your car and go spill it next to their machinery and then tip off the EPA. The list went on and on for many pages about how to sabotage several scenarios.

    And I wasn't too impressed with it. It was as if everyone thought that until this point in time no one had ever engaged in determined guerrilla warfare or an unfriendly neighborly spat. This book exhibits somewhat of an active imagination in causing trouble ... oftentimes this trouble is easily traced back to you no matter how well the book tries to convince the reader you're being super careful and are virtually untraceable.

    It simply blew my mind that someone could be arrested for possession of this book because after all the notoriety it's really not that useful. Sure, if your given scenario matches any in the books, you've got some cheap tricks at your disposal but anyone with an imagination would be far better equipped than anyone with that book. I found nothing permanently useful in that book and would recommend any of the US Army Field Manuals for reading before that since the information is more generalized and interesting like the one on Counterinsurgency. FM 21-76 served me well in Boy Scouts -- probably better than the boy scout's manual. Why do we flip out that The Anarchist's Cookbook is available to terrorists when the Army is releasing far more useful books to anybody and everybody?

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    1. Re:I Don't Understand This Legacy by Antisyzygy · · Score: 2

      The anarchists cookbook also has many things in it that are too dangerous to do, or wouldn't work at all. Some of them have a significant probability of hurting you.

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    2. Re:I Don't Understand This Legacy by CODiNE · · Score: 2

      So that really WAS the book after all. I downloaded a copy of that as a kid and it seemed so stupid I figured I'd gotten a fake one.

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    3. Re:I Don't Understand This Legacy by onepoint · · Score: 2

      Where I find your observation is ... time frame reference.

      In the 70's and 80's, the lack of access to information ( even in public libraries ) was rather large. Therefor, people found this book useful ( even if they never used it ). The legacy is that people above the age of 40 speak to youth about how good it was to have something to fight the establishment.

      Given, you can find just about everything now on the internet, including the armed forces manuals, but back in the day, this was as near as the general public could get.

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    4. Re:I Don't Understand This Legacy by Lord+Ender · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The book was memorable because it was prohibited. As a teenager, having a copy was one of the greatest taboos a middle-class suburban kid might violate. What better symbol of rebellion? It was common for the same reason kids in online games today scream "nigger" even though there is no indication that there are black people playing, and the kids themselves probably aren't particularly racist--it's a just violation of society's most severe taboos.

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    5. Re:I Don't Understand This Legacy by Steauengeglase · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It was a bit like the Hacker's Manifesto in that it was written by a very passionate young person (William Powell, 22 at the time) that ran like wildfire amongst other passionate, like-minded (or at least very curious) young people. It also had the same reaction as H.M. when it's author went back, re-read it and was startled by how angry, foolish and idealistic they were in their youth and that almost all of that rage was caused by other sources.

      From what I've read Powell has felt very guilty about that book and he doesn't advise anyone to ever bother reading it.

    6. Re:I Don't Understand This Legacy by FauxReal · · Score: 2

      You're right, the Anarchist Cookbook was rather pedestrian and some of the things there were not good ideas. The Poor Man's James Bond was a much better book and even that wasn't so great... but nobody flipped out over that one.

      I think it was the mystique of the AC that made people freak out, the name and having any sort of "dangerous" information in the hands of a subversive let their imaginations run wild with paranoid ideas. Think of the children! [TM]

    7. Re:I Don't Understand This Legacy by 1729 · · Score: 2

      I downloaded a copy of that as a kid

      I feel old now.

  11. Don't like by JustOK · · Score: 5, Funny

    I always found Anarchists a bit gamey, no matter how they're cooked.

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  12. Re:Lame by mangu · · Score: 4, Informative

    I wanted to learn how to make Napalm from human fat

    Napalm is a mix of gasoline with soap. To make soap from human fat, get (by weight) 7 parts fat, 2 parts water, and 1 part sodium hydroxide. Mix thoroughly in a blender until it starts thickening. Pour in a mold and let stand for a few days. To make napalm, grind the soap and mix 2 parts gasoline with 1 part soap.

  13. "Not Always Complete" by bmo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From the PDF under "enclosure" from someone reviewing the book:

    "The formulas and procedures presented concerning the production of high and low explosives cannot be called incorrect but they are not always complete and therefore present a hazard to anyone using the information"

    No kidding. Darwin Awards waiting to be handed out.

    As a BBSer with my own copy back in the day, we didn't dare try any of that shit because it even looked like it was missing steps.

    The Amateur Astronomer's Handbook has recipes for silvering mirrors, and there are warnings to not keep the mixture (sugar recipe) standing around too long because it creates silver fulminate. The complete lack of similar safety warnings in the Anarchists' Cookbook is a red flag not to try this stuff. Consult a real explosives manual instead.

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  14. The Real Power behind The Anarchist Cookbook... by MaxNomad68 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The true power of The Anarchist Cookbook has almost nothing to do with its contents. Matter of fact, if it were Mexican Cuisine, the Anarchist Cookbook would be day-old Taco Bell. The thing that William Powell (the original author) managed to do was accidentally come up with one of the underground's most powerful BRAND NAMES, one that could single-handedly ignite the imaginations of a typical teenager so much that it got out of his control. Once the publisher saw that it was such a money-maker, they refused to let it die. Eventually, the early crop of computer underground "anarchists" on the BBS scene took the book concept and created digital extensions of the information in the form of "G-Files" and early 8-bit graphics. By the time the Anarchist Cookbook made it to the Internet, it was no longer a book. It was a movement, one without direction or guidance or measurable intent, all loosely bound together by a set of files that had been slapped with the same Anarchist Cookbook brand name. Most of the people who downloaded the Cookbook, in whatever form, probably never tried much beyond a smoke bomb or two. The thrill was in the power of the potential of the information itself, even if it was incorrect. For the FBI to dedicate this much time studying it makes me sit back and scratch my head. Truth be told, the Central Library in any given city is far more dangerous... it just doesn't sound anywhere near as appealing to the typical kid.

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    1. Re:The Real Power behind The Anarchist Cookbook... by MaxNomad68 · · Score: 2

      For the FBI to dedicate this much time studying it makes me sit back and scratch my head. Truth be told, the Central Library in any given city is far more dangerous...

      Not in 1971 it wasn't. At least not without weeks and months of rooting around in a wide variety of books with the vague hope of finding what you're looking for. Like many here on Slashdot you have no freaking idea how hard it was to get this kind of information before the BBS's and eventually widespread public access to the internet.

      Eventually, the early crop of computer underground "anarchists" on the BBS scene took the book concept and created digital extensions of the information in the form of "G-Files" and early 8-bit graphics. By the time the Anarchist Cookbook made it to the Internet, it was no longer a book. It was a movement, one without direction or guidance or measurable intent, all loosely bound together by a set of files that had been slapped with the same Anarchist Cookbook brand name.

      I bet you think you kids invented sex too... (You didn't.) That 'movement' existed before the widespread public internet, before BBS's. We were passing around second and third generation photocopies from the Cookbook in Junior High by 1974. And there weren't coin operated photocopiers on every corner then either... (Generally you had to have stealth access to one in a business or a sympathetic adult providing access.) Why do you think that when files sharing BBS's became common over a decade later that somebody thought it was a good idea to sit down and type all that stuff in?

      Derek,

      While it's true that (1) all kids more or less grow up doing the same s**t (based on the technology of the day) and (2) I appreciate the fire in your response, I'm pretty sure you completely missed my points. I wasn't trying to claim any credit or validate ANY version (or variation) of the Anarchist Cookbook in any era.

      My points:

      • The Anarchist Cookbook doesn't go away because it has become a runaway brand name unto itself -- regardless of the fact that it contains a ton of inaccurate information.
      • The most dangerous information in the Anarchist Cookbook was (and still is) available in any well-stocked library or military munitions manual. People have been making black powder for over 1500 years. There's nothing new with most of those basic formulas, only the applications.
      • The FBI dedicating all that time to "investigating" the Anarchist Cookbook was a huge waste of time and taxpayer dollars. What they did was like investigating a book like "The Joy of Sex" because of issues related to STDs and teen pregnancy.
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  15. Re:I always enjoyed it. by Creepy · · Score: 2

    Well about 1981 I got a hold of a 336 page printable copy floating around the BBS world. In 1981 I was not much older than your son, and around 1983 (pretty sure we got our printer in 1983 - we also got a non-loaner modem that year) I almost got suspended from school for bringing a couple of pages to school. It didn't help that another kid photocopied them and started selling them in the library... then fingered me as his source, the cops got called, my parents got called, etc - incidentally, I mainly brought them because of the killer smoke bomb of potassium nitrate and sugar that I wanted to show another kid, and the one that they terrified the principal didn't even work (potassium permanganate and gasoline - in the late 1970s a neutralizing agent was added to pure potassium permanganate fish tank cleaner to slow its reaction with gasoline, and pure permanganate is harder to get now).

    Scary that I even remember the ingredients... but my day with the police and the principal scared the beejesus out of me, so much so that I became much more careful with just about everything. I admit, before I was 16 or so I committed a lot of white collar crime (hacking in the bad sense, phreaking, piracy, etc) with my parents largely ignorant of it. Funny how now I'm very much against the crimes I perpetrated back then, and most of the people I associated with are too (in fact, the two I keep in contact with are an MIT trained professor and a guy with a doctorate in physics who works for Alcatel-Lucent).

  16. Re:I always enjoyed it. by Hatta · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Are you kidding? The right thing to do is to read it with your kid, and explain each and every way that following the book would get him blown up. Then you take him out and build some model rockets or smoke bombs so he has a non-destructive way to deal with the urge. This kind of material is a perfect teaching opportunity.

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  17. The Monkey Wrench Gang by plopez · · Score: 2

    Required reading if you like the Anarchists Cookbook. See also:

    http://earth-liberation-front.org/

    http://www.animalliberationfront.com/

    Which have practical field tested techniques.

    I'll probably end up on a watch list for this post.

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  18. "Five day waiting period?" by Mike+Van+Pelt · · Score: 2

    "Five day waiting period? But my psychotic ex is threatening to kill me and my children TODAY!"

  19. I RTFA by ShooterNeo · · Score: 2

    From reading the actual FBI file, I noticed something interesting :

          1. The FBI made an effort to investigate the book's author BEFORE they determined a crime had even been committed.
          2. The FBI wrongly assumed the author was a pseudonym because they felt the topics "spoke from firsthand experience". They obviously never asked a chemist or someone who had actually tried these techniques if anything in the book would work. Had they done so, they would have realized the book was fake. Also, these government agents tended to take advertising copy at face value...getting information from the media the same way we do.
          3. The FBI REALLY IS WATCHING YOU. Send them a letter and a news clipping and complain, and the FBI will INVESTIGATE YOU! Every letter written by some old lady had a note attached where an agent checked the files on that lady and found out what she had sent in the past. (evidently each time when the FBI found that a person had sent them things that seemed supportive of the agency, they would stop investigating)

    The Man's own private records reveal many of the things we say about him are true. The Man really is ignorant and responds to popular opinion, not common sense. Criticize The Man, or communicate with him at all, and he will try to find a reason to send you to prison.