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Glen Beck Warns Viewers Not To Use Google

An anonymous reader writes "Glenn Beck has told his viewers to do research, but to not use Google, because 'Google is pretty deeply in bed with the government.' He points to the fact that Google is having some problems overseas, as well as Jared Cohen. Cohen is Director of Google Ideas, has worked with the State Department, and has played a role in the 2009 unrest in Iran. He also mentions social networking in sinister undertones, asking if it's government propaganda."

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  1. I think Beck has started to believe his own con by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seriously, this guy is about one step away from saving his urine in jars and going all David Koresh on a compound somewhere. Anyone who still takes that clown seriously is either already a paranoid schizophrenic or too stupid to be reasoned with anyway. You would have more luck arguing with a religious fanatic.

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    1. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You would have more luck arguing with a religious fanatic.

      I thought Glen Beck and his viewers were already religious fanatics, on top of their rampant paranoia.

    2. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by Lose · · Score: 5, Funny

      Nobody took a hint when he moved to FOX news?

    3. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, he's selling books and getting ratings and a lot of money. Folks who think Beck is crazy are just as bamboozled as any of his fans. It's really hilarious.

      Anyone who still takes that clown seriously is either already a paranoid schizophrenic or too stupid to be reasoned with anyway.

      Yes, but by saying that, *you* have taken him seriously! The attacks on him just make his supporters circle the wagons, and maybe even gain him followers from the stupid "Well, if he's pissing people off he must be doing something right!" crowd.

      I'm thinking of writing a crazy book, and shopping it to one of these neo-con publishers, all to get me some early retirement on the backs of the ideological loons. I'm not sure yet if I should invent a new angle, or tie together multiple existing memes in a new way.

    4. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by dunezone · · Score: 5, Informative

      Well its all an act / business to him. He did his stint on CNN but exploiting fear in liberals is difficult compared to exploiting fear in conservatives. The current liberal market is younger and college level educated. The conservative market are older and although contains college level educated individuals its not as high as the liberal market.

      Which market is better to exploit / market fear? A young, highly educated market or a older less-educated market?

      As for the act, The Daily Show showed 2 clips, one from his CNN show and one from his FOX NEWS show, they were separated by about 18 months. On CNN he was saying the USA had the worst health care system in the world, but 18 months later he is on FOX NEWS saying its the best health care system in the world. So somehow the USA went from the worst to the best in 18 months with no legislation, reform, or any anything.

    5. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by Ephemeriis · · Score: 5, Interesting

      No, he's selling books and getting ratings and a lot of money. Folks who think Beck is crazy are just as bamboozled as any of his fans. It's really hilarious.

      I don't know if he's clinically diagnosed or if he's just putting on an act to make money. And it really doesn't matter. Regardless of the cause of his actions, the guy is spewing flaming ignorance all over the place.

      Yes, but by saying that, *you* have taken him seriously!

      As opposed to what, ignoring the loony? Just letting him spew his ignorance without any kind of rebuttal?

      The fact of the matter is that he's on national TV, publishing books, and presenting some truly deranged stuff as "truth".

      If he was just some kind of comedian and everybody laughed and went on with their lives, that'd be one thing. But people believe him. Folks base their world view on what he says. They cast their votes based on his insane rantings.

      You can't just ignore him, because he affects American politics whether you like it or not.

      The attacks on him just make his supporters circle the wagons, and maybe even gain him followers from the stupid "Well, if he's pissing people off he must be doing something right!" crowd.

      So, what... Plug your ears, hum real loud, and hope the crazy isn't there when you open your eyes?

      I'm thinking of writing a crazy book, and shopping it to one of these neo-con publishers, all to get me some early retirement on the backs of the ideological loons. I'm not sure yet if I should invent a new angle, or tie together multiple existing memes in a new way.

      There are a lot of crazy ideas out there. And most of them are just languishing in obscurity. I have absolutely no doubt that you could throw together some really insane horseshit and make money off of it. There are plenty of paranoid/gullible/curious folks out there who'd gobble it up.

      But that isn't going to put you on par with Glen Beck.

      There are tons of raving loonies out there that get absolutely no attention.

      What differentiates Glen Beck from some homeless idiot claiming that the world is flat is that he has an audience. He has thousands (millions?) of viewers. They actually listen to him. If he claims that Google is in league with the devil, they'll believe it. They'll go use Bing instead.

      And while it might not matter to me what search engine a bunch of paranoid neocons use... It does matter to me how they vote in elections, because I live in the same country that they do. And when he gets them all riled up to vote against some random bill that would actually be quite beneficial, I suffer for it.

      Don't get me wrong... I'm not arrogant enough to think that my way is the only right way to do things. I have no problem being wrong or being out-voted or whatever. But I'd prefer to be out-voted based on reality. Not the ravings of some lunatic - regardless of whether it's a genuine clinical problem or simply an act to make money.

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    6. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by tophermeyer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well its all an act / business to him.

      Boom, right there. Glenn Beck plays a character on TV, named Glenn Beck. Glenn Beck's character is a huge douchebag. And I presume that if Glenn Beck the actor can play as ridiculous a character as Glenn Beck on TV, he must also be a fairly big douche himself.

      But his character is fabulously successful. So maybe he's got some things figured out.

    7. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, he's selling books and getting ratings and a lot of money.

      This is the way a lot of psychopaths make a living.

      Folks who think Beck is crazy are just as bamboozled as any of his fans. It's really hilarious.

      I've read this exact sentence many times on this site. Whether or not Beck is schizophrenic is his own dirty secret. He manifestly lacks a sense of compassion for anyone else; whether that's "crazy" or not is irrelevant.

    8. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Which market is better to exploit / market fear? A young, highly educated market or a older less-educated market?

      I think /. regularly shows the young, "highly educated" market is plenty susceptible to fear & paranoia.

    9. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by vlm · · Score: 3, Informative

      I can see older, that is the natural tendency of people exposed to the world.

      But educated? Where did you get those stats?

      The hood, the barrio, the welfare office, and the homeless shelter of course, all bastions of hardcore conservative thought. Err...

      The funny part is through massive grade inflation and job requirement inflation, the average "uneducated" HS grad from 50 years ago was far better educated than the average modern college grad.

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    10. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, he's selling books and getting ratings and a lot of money. Folks who think Beck is crazy are just as bamboozled as any of his fans. It's really hilarious.

      Anyone who sacrifices their honor and dignity, and encourages others to not just abandon rational thinking but to engage in acts of violence, all in order to pad their bank account, is crazy.

      In other words, Beck has to be one sort of crazy (some sort of personality disorder) in order to pretend to be the sort of crazy (sort of paranoid schizophrenia) that he does.

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    11. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by NotAGoodNickname · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is a very insightful post. You guys need to understand that Beck/Limbaugh/Maddows/whomever are all alike. They are exploiting your fear of people you see as "opposite" to you in order to make millions of dollars off of their show, books, speaking fees, etc. None of these commentators believe what they are saying no matter what "side" they are on. The truth is that none of them are on "your side". They are interested in their ego and the big bucks. I find it amazing that people spend so much time raging against them. Ignore them and they will go away.

    12. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by paiute · · Score: 5, Insightful

      CNN said one thing....
      time passed
      Fox New said the opposite.

      No, Glen Beck said one thing.
      18 months passed.
      Glen Beck said the opposite.

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    13. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by Dachannien · · Score: 4, Insightful

      but exploiting fear in liberals is difficult compared to exploiting fear in conservatives

      You have heard of Al Gore, yes? Or Michael Moore?

      What about the recent campaign by MoveOn.org to "save public broadcasting" because of Republicans moving to cut off funding to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, despite the fact that public broadcasting as a whole gets only a small portion of its financing from the government?

      People from across the political spectrum are open to FUD. The only real difference is which buttons you have to push.

    14. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It still amazes me that other Christian groups will laugh at the silliness of Joseph Smith's Moroni story and then turn around with a straight face and talk about a first-century illiterate peasant revolutionary (killed by the Romans, no less) being the "son" of a omniscient, omnipresent being and flying up to heaven.

      It's all stupid shit to an outsider.

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    15. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by Ereth · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The Daily Show is a COMEDY Show. Jon Stewart doesn't pretend otherwise. His job is to skewer the news.

      Beck (and Fox) pretend otherwise.

    16. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by I8TheWorm · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Meh, I don't think he's really any of those. Just a guy looking for shock value to sell viewership/listenership, and it works.

      Either way I can't stand to listen to anything he says, or Amy Goodman for that matter. People who push their agenda through "news" irritate the crap out of me.

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    17. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by Nimey · · Score: 3, Funny

      That's just the libertarians, who aren't so far away from Beck's demographic.

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    18. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by gtbritishskull · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Steven Colbert plays a self-serving narcissistic douche on Comedy Central. His show is about making the news funny, not about portraying it accurately. He would be justified in not taking responsibility for anyone taking what he says seriously because his show is on a comedy channel.

      Glenn Beck ?plays? a douche on Fox News. It claims to be a News channel. It is supposed to, and does not claim not to, have accurate and trustworthy information. As such, he is responsible for people taking what he says seriously (and they do). So, whether or not he tries to play a douche on TV, he is still a douche because he claims to be a pundit, not an actor.

    19. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by The+Hatchet · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That is not about fear, it is about anger and outrage at the actions of certain wealthy, rich people in America destroying the things we hold most dear as a country, and have since the days of our founding.

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    20. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by tompaulco · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The current liberal market is younger and college level educated. The conservative market are older and although contains college level educated individuals its not as high as the liberal market.
      Statistics show that there are percentage wise more college educated republicans than democrats. Statistics also show that there are percentage-wise for more high school dropouts among democrats than among republicans. The only statistic which shows higher education among democrats is the slightly higher percentage of post graduate among democrats
      I hate to point this out, but those same fearful old conservatives 40 years ago were probably young educated liberals, and 40 years from now, today's young educated liberals will be fearful old conservatives. That's just the way it works. When we are young and essentially have not much money money and little responsibility and are getting supported more or less by the government through the education system, we selfishly want the government to continue those social and educational benefit programs which benefit us, then when we get older, get a job, get responsibilities, get taxed, we tend to selfishly want to keep the money which we have been working so hard to get. Looking out for number one is the name of the game in both cases, but don't feel bad, because if it weren't for looking out for number one, then we wouldn't be here today.

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    21. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Beck could say the same thing, substituting buzzwords like "limousine liberals" or "champagne socialists" in place of "wealthy, rich". The "destroying America" meme is universal. Beck says "the liberals are destroying America - be angry and outraged!", you say "the wealthy rich are destroying America - be angry and outraged!".

      It's quite clear. Either both of you are using fear, or neither of you are. So which is it?

    22. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by mangu · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What amazes me is that people feel they are somewhat superior to others because they believe in Bronze Age legends and take part in symbolic cannibalism rituals.

    23. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by MozeeToby · · Score: 3, Informative

      He is saying that Mormons are polytheistic because they believe each Planet in the universe has it's own God and that there is nothing particularly special about the God that runs things here on Earth. In fact, if you are a really, really good Mormon you had a chance to ascend to godhood yourself after death, but only if you had enough wives to birth enough 'spiritual children' to populate it (why some fundamentalist Mormons insist on polygamy). I don't know how much of this is still considered cannon to the Mormon faith, but it is historically part of the faith.

    24. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by Mordok-DestroyerOfWo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You're right and you're wrong (at least in my anecdotal case). I am a Christian and stopped going to church a few years back. There were a number of reasons, I didn't like constantly defending myself against what other crazier Christians were doing, and I didn't like wasting my time going to church every week when 99% of what they preached didn't make any sense or didn't apply to me. My faith is still there, I just learned that organized religion does nothing but puts up barriers. For the record I believe in evolution, questioning the bible, and tolerance for everybody, be they black, white, gay, Klingon, or even woman.

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    25. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by rbrander · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I don't watch a lot of Goodman, either, basically a segment here and there recommended by other sites and linked to the middle of one of her broadcasts. Generally because the link notes she has hard information, an interview, that nobody else dug up.

      Still, it seems a little harsh to mention in the same sentence (which tends to imply equivalence), somebody who runs a tiny operation with web-only access and a shoestring budget, and has won several really major awards for journalism, stories that got her beaten up in Indonesia, arrested (charges all dropped), and so forth....with a TV guy who makes $30+ million per year promoting theories like the ones under discussion...and never has to risk a thing to get his "stories".

      Or, to put it another way, if that's the best "equivalent" to Glenn Beck you can come up with, you just gave the "liberal media" vs "conservative media" comparison a gigantic boost for liberalism.

    26. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by gtbritishskull · · Score: 5, Informative

      Since when did Mexico, Haiti, or Cuba become the apex of socialized health care? What point are you trying to make?

      Also, I have not traveled the world, but I know of many Europeans who were pissed off at how their healthcare systems were vilified in the US when they HAVE lived in the US and seen the advantages that their healthcare systems have over ours. I have also gone onto the internet and looked at the statistics that say that the US (with its supposed amazing healthcare) has one of the highest infant mortality rates and one of the lowest life expectancy's of any industrialized nation. I guess the US believes in the Darwin approach to healthcare. If you are rich, then you have the best healthcare in the world. If you are not rich, then we don't want you to survive anyway.

    27. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by gtbritishskull · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Public Broadcasting? Really? Is that the best you can come up with?

      You are comparing defunding of a public service to "the muslims are gonna kill us".

      You know us liberals, if we don't have public broadcasting then our life isn't worth anything. We might just all commit suicide.

    28. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by darkpixel2k · · Score: 5, Funny

      He is saying that Mormons are polytheistic because they believe each Planet in the universe has it's own God and that there is nothing particularly special about the God that runs things here on Earth.

      Weird--I'd never heard that. I should open up Google and do some resear...oh--right. Damn.

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    29. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by Hatta · · Score: 4, Insightful

      exploiting fear in liberals is difficult compared to exploiting fear in conservatives

      I WISH someone would try to exploit my fears. If there were more people out there afraid of over reaching police powers and corporate control of the justice system, this country would be a much better place.

      The difference between conservative fears and liberal fears is that conservative fears are based in fantasy, liberal fears are based in reality. No, there are not, nor will there ever be Death Panels. On the other hand, yes the US government does actually spend over a billion dollars a year imprisoning its own citizens for doing nothing more than growing plants and consuming them.

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    30. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The Christian god is like a Druid in WoW, three forms, tree for healing, feral cat for DPS and bear for tanking.

      The Mormon idea is that God has three alts.

      Jews say G-d doesn't heal or DPS and doesn't play alts, but sometimes trolls trade with a burning bush, wtf is up with that?

      Muslims say Allah doesn't log in, but runs the guild through the forums. - "No vision can grasp Him, but His grasp is over all vision. God is above all comprehension, yet is acquainted with all things"

    31. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by mangu · · Score: 3, Informative

      There is at least one eminent scholar that believes Jesus was an illiterate peasant. He used to be a catholic priest, did extensive research on the subject, and wrote nearly thirty books about it.

    32. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by uniquename72 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm more of a Ron Paul fan. The only real threat from the government is they may tax us to death.

      Yes, they "might." But here I am paying less taxes then at any other period during my lifetime, and the Ron Paul fans won't shut up about how I'm being taxed to death.

      As a right-leaning person, there is no party for me. Republicans can't stop spending and starting pointless wars, Libertarians can't stop being misrepresenting themselves (either you're a "Constitutional originalist" or you support the Civil Rights Act, pick one) and fear-mongering, and Democrats don't have enough backbone to actually DO anything (Health Care is a perfect example. It's a gift to insurance companies that does little more than fleece the rest of us.)

    33. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by mosb1000 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The problem is that Joseph Smith made a number of claims that are provably false. Only an idiot would believe in something they know to be false.

      I understand that many claims made by "Christians" are also provably false, but these are claims made by preachers peddling doctrines, not claims made in scripture. For example, it is not clear whether depictions of miracles in scripture are meant to be taken literally or metaphorically. At the time, there was a tradition among Jews to make points using legends. The canonical version if the Bible offers differing accounts of Jesus' life (but does not make conflicting claims about what he said) almost as if to say that the details of his life are added to make points about spirituality rather than to document actual historical events. Another problem is the claim that scripture is inerrant. That claim is, ironically, not found in scripture, and it's obviously used by con-artists to peddle false doctrines based on narrow readings of particular scriptures ("Jesus hates fags" and stuff like that). I don't really have time to go into all differences between sound teaching as it's depicted in the Bible and what is taught in Church, but there are a lot of them.

      Anyway, what I'm trying to say is you shouldn't judge Christian values based on the actions and words of people who are only claiming to be Christians for worldly gain. It's good to stay open minded about things. And if you ever read the Bible, you would be shocked by all the differences between it and what is said about it in Church. And you'd be shocked by how bad Christians are at doing what it says, but then it's not surprising since they don't really know.

    34. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by aztektum · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I grew up in small town (population ~500) midwest. My teachers would ride me over reading comic books in middle school/high school. I was wasting my time with figments of my imagination.

      I saw these same people leaving the church each Sunday. It did not at all instill a sense of respect for them.

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    35. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by LanMan04 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      What also amazes me is that people feel they are somewhat superior to others because they don't.

      Why does that amaze you? Seems perfectly rational to me

      And that they think they'll actually get people to listen to them by treating them as such.

      I agree with you there. Not that their minds are changeable anyway...deprogramming humans raised from birth to think a certain way is damn hard.

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    36. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by the+phantom · · Score: 3, Insightful
    37. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by IICV · · Score: 3, Insightful

      However, Christian monotheism is a unique kind of monotheism. It holds that God is One, but that three distinct "persons" constitute the one God: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. This unique threefold God of Christian belief is referred to as the Trinity. I repeat, "God is One". Assuming God is all powerful, is it not feasible for him/her to manifest himself/herself in as many ways as he/she wishes? ...
        You should really learn just a wee bit about what you are spouting out before you look like a complete idiot.

      Maybe you should learn a bit more about the history of the Church before you go all-out on someone like that? The whole point of the the Trinity is that it's a compromise - in the Church's history, there was a powerful group of people who were convinced that God really did have three separate forms, and there was a group of people (who currently had official power) who were convinced that God having three separate forms was a polytheistic heresy.

      In order to prevent a giant schism, they essentially made a compromise by fiat - God is three separate things (to appease the first group), but God is also one thing (to appease the second group). It makes absolutely no fucking sense whatsoever in any way, like many compromises do; and in fact, every logical way of explaining the concept of the Trinity has been deemed heretical, because by definition it will either fall on the side of God is one thing, or God is three things - and by definition, He must be both. It's like trying to straddle the line between 1 and 0 in discrete binary, there exists no correct middle ground. It's so bad that the Catholic Church officially considers the Trinity a "Mystery", which is code for "don't try to explain this or else you'll figure out the whole thing is kind of a scam".

    38. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by MysteriousPreacher · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's just a rehashing of the "don't be a dick" argument. The basic premise is pragmatic and sensible, but it's easily stretched to the point where pragmatism gives way to pandering. I can safely say that my morality is superior to anyones whose morality relies on divine edict and eternal punishments/rewards. It doesn't make me superior in general. The Pope might be a fine golfer, in which case he's certainly my superior on the driving range. I reckon though I can prove myself more ethical than he, and certainly more modest in that only a criminal, or someone afflicted with phenomenal egomaniacal delusion, would place themselves as the go-to guy of the most powerful being in all creation.

      A mixture of honey and vinegar is what's needed. Your comments, being generalisations from the other end of the spectrum, seem a little on the sour side.

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    39. Re:I think Beck has started to believe his own con by IICV · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It sounds like he still believes in God, but perhaps not what man has to say about God.

      That's pretty funny, because the main thing man has to say about God is "God exists". Nothing else in science or nature or reality (though I repeat myself) even whispers that phrase.

      Just think about it. If you are born a Muslim, 90% of the time you grow up to be a Muslim. If you are born a Christian, 90% of the time you grow up to be a Christian. If you are born a Mormon, 90% of the time you grow up to be a Mormon. Weird, isn't it, that the religion you're born into is almost always the religion you follow as an adult?

      And yet - babies are born without the concept of object permanence. Somehow, though, nearly 100% of all babies change their minds eventually, and they all decide the same thing: even if I'm not looking at it, it still exists. Isn't it funny that when it comes to God, nobody can agree on anything? When the existence of God should, a priori, be as fundamentally true and fundamental to our understanding of the Universe as object permanence?

      Weird, isn't it?

  2. But... by terminalhype · · Score: 5, Funny

    If nobody uses Google Search, how will Bing! ever improve?

  3. you might find something in his past by skydude_20 · · Score: 4, Informative

    he doesn't want to you read about what he might have done back in 1990

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    1. Re:you might find something in his past by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 5, Funny

      "he doesn't want to you read about what he might have done back in 1990"

      I googled this... it was a sex change operation. He used to be a man.

    2. Re:you might find something in his past by OzPeter · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "he doesn't want to you read about what he might have done back in 1990"

      I googled this... it was a sex change operation. He used to be a man.

      No No No .. you aren't doing this right. You can't come out and make a statement of absolute fact that can be checked. You need to allude to it and let your audience ASSUME that it was a fact. This is simple Beckism 101. What you should have said is:

      I googled Beck looking to see if he had a sex change. Did he lose his balls in the past? I don't know. But you have to admit he acts pretty strange all the time, and I haven't seen him deny not losing his balls. But don't believe anything I say .. you have to make up your own mind over this.

      And while you are pondering that let me tell you about [Fear mongering sponsor de jour] whose products I have been buying for years. If you don't have this [end of the world survival product] then you don't [love your family] ...

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  4. Well, obviously . . . by Attack+DAWWG · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If someone does a Google search, they may, just possibly, find out the truth about something.

    And that possibility is what people like Glenn Beck find the most frightening.

  5. Cry us a river, Glenn. by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 3, Funny

    Oh geeze, he's not going to cry on television again, is he?

  6. Not Just Google, Suspect All Other TV Networks! by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Insightful
    From his rant:

    I would look into all the people the State Department are working with; MSNBC, CBS, gosh, MTV.

    Just say it, every news outlet but Fox, right? It's the only thing stopping you from busting out the "trust no one" hyperbole, right?

    Maybe we should start watching those networks a little bit and seeing what their news coverage is like.

    Why don't we watch all of them and judge them fairly against each other? Or do you just want scrutiny only on the networks you're not on?

    Who are these groups? Who are they? Are they right, are they left, are they clean, are they dirty, are they front groups? I don't know.

    Wait, wait, wait, so what are you accusing them of? Absolutely nothing? And if you don't know then why are you telling us to investigate them? Maybe because you know nobody will do it and instead they'll just continue listening to you? "Is Glenn Beck, good, bad, is he left, is he right, is he clean, is he dirty? I don't know. Maybe you should keep your eye on him?"

    May I recommend, if you're doing your own homework, don't do a Google search. Seems to me that Google is pretty deeply in bed with the government. Maybe this is explaining why Google is being kicked out of all the other countries?

    My god, would you please just make a statement instead of repeated leading questions?! How is Google any more "in bed" with the government than Microsoft or Yahoo?

    Are they just a shill now for the United States government? Who is Jared Cohen? Is he private citizen or government operative? And isn't this the second Google guy we've found? This is the second Google executive now being exposed as an instigator of a revolution.

    Your little pointer stick and board didn't do much to lead to conclusive evidence that Cohen has "instigated a revolution."

    I couldn't get the MM site to load but the Youtube version worked for me and holy crap what a load of horseshit. I saw Glenn Beck on TV in a waiting room once and thought it was a joke. The amount of faulty, leading, incomplete logic here is just staggering, even in this video. Instead of wasting my time itemizing everything wrong about what he's saying and pointing out the obvious, I should have just taken Salon's advice and done something more constructive.

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    1. Re:Not Just Google, Suspect All Other TV Networks! by TheSpoom · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "Asking questions" is how he can slander and libel without being sued.

      I strongly recommend watching the South Park episode Dances with Smurfs for a pretty accurate (and lulzy) overview.

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    2. Re:Not Just Google, Suspect All Other TV Networks! by MachineShedFred · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's not like his schtick is new. See: Joseph McCarthy.

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  7. Broken clock right. News at 12:00... 12:00... by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, it is kindof true. Google is very big brother in the way they gather data about their users.

    For that matter, just about any large internet company is going to be in bed with whatever governments whose jurisdiction they operate within. It's called "compliance with law enforcement". It's very patriotic for corporations to work with governments. Of course, if you have nothing to hide, it's fine, right?

    The other reason Beck might hate the internet, of course, is that the internet is just an outgrowth of yet another giant government project. We all remember ARPA and DARPA, right?

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  8. Re:We worship the blowhard by CRCulver · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm not sure Slashdot is that left-leaning. At least, not those readers who leave comments. Any time a discussion of the welfare state comes up, one can always expect a flood of Libertarian comments.

  9. Re:We worship the blowhard by gman003 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In other words, Glenn Beck is a professional troll?

  10. Words go in, results come out. by RevWaldo · · Score: 5, Funny

    You can't explain that.

    .

  11. Google his name by mangu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Let's see: Glenn Beck.

    Hmmm, yes he has reasons to be afraid of Google. However that's just because he refuses to deny it. Why? Why doesn't he come forth and deny it?

  12. Re:We worship the blowhard by piripiri · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In other words, Glenn Beck is a professional troll?

    Yes.

  13. Is Beck the only one? by twoallbeefpatties · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Do other countries have conspiracy theorists with such depth and wide-reaching audiences that have radio or television programs?

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  14. I'm pretty sure by nedlohs · · Score: 3, Funny

    anyone who actually believes anything Beck says can't do a google search anyway, since the drool keeps shorting out the keyboard.

  15. Re:We worship the blowhard by corbettw · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The reason /. has a left leaning bias is because most honest and intelligent people are left leaning.

    I can see you're not a true Scotsman.

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  16. Re:Who? by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Either he's right, and Google is also actively trying to discredit him, or he's an idiot.

    From the sages of Monty Python . . .

    "Well I feel very keenly that the idiot is a part of the old village system, and as such has a vital role to play in a modern rural society, because you see ... There is this very real need in society for someone whom almost anyone can look down on and ridicule. And this is the role that ... this is the role that I and members of my family have fulfilled in this village for the past four hundred years... "

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  17. it's not ideology, it's ideological whoring by circletimessquare · · Score: 5, Informative

    1. Glenn Beck works for Fox News

    2. Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal owns a 7 percent stake in News Corp

    3. Saudia Arabia is deeply unnerved by the revolutions sweeping aside the old crusty strongmen in the Middle East

    So Prince bin Talal gets on the phone with Glenn Beck's bosses. Next day, Glenn Beck starts spouting off against internet tools that Middle Eastern revolutionaries use.

    Yes, the same Glenn Beck who wears a Revolutionary War era Tricorner Hat and wraps himself in the American flag.

    The tragedy is the people who reject, for example, Barack Obama as a "communist" and "secret muslim" and "antiamerican who wants to destroy the USA" and doubt he was born here. Incredibly low IQ lies and smears. Low IQ lies and smears spread by people who wrap themselves in the American flag, but who are of course working for corporate and foreign interests, corporate interests squarely pointed against what is good for Americans and American interests. And millions of Americans beleive this nonsense! Why? Because the "information" is presented to them, not by appealing to their sense of reason, but by appealing to their emotions: fear, hysteria, panic. Classic propaganda psychology.

    The tragedy is people who view Fox News as "American" and don't know they are basically being propagandized and programmed against, for example, their own self-intererests, like higher quality, more affordable health care. Because the insurance industry might make less money. Better that Grandma die 10 years earlier than we succumb to evil SOCIALISM. Seriously?!

    Sheep, whose Real American (tm) opinions are bought and paid for by Saudi Oil money, fat cat corporate dollars, and yes, the Chinese Communist Party.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/26/world/asia/26murdoch.html

    So to summarize: Obama is a Communist and a Muslim Terrorist and anti-American... propaganda deeply believed by millions of Americans whose brains are basically programmed via a regular dose of fear and hysteria by smearmongers like Glenn Beck, whose ideological whoring... drum roll please... is paid for by actual Saudi Wahhabists and Chinese Communist controlled corporations!

    If it wasn't so tragic, it would be hilarious.

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    1. Re:it's not ideology, it's ideological whoring by Evtim · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You know, I was expecting your post to be modded up, but no. Alas, I spent my mod points yesterday.

      Anyway, here is a funny thing. My country (Bulgaria) was building for many years a second nuclear power plant. The first one was almost completely closed because EU would not accept us with it (the reactors were dangerous bla bla..). So, since few years a massive debate about the second one rages across the media. Over time the two major opinions settled as such:

      The so-called progressive, right wing, pro-western people are against it, because, they say it will need the Russians for the fuel and processing the waste. So we will INCRESE our energy dependence from Russia.

      The left-leaning, pro-Russian crowd is for it. As you can guess their motives are exactly like the one above, only in their book this is a good thing.

      There was of course the infinitely small minority of realists and nerds who were always for it, because of reality (let’s not go deeper into this – why nuclear power is back in the world and why did it take 50 years to realize the obvious)

      And then Wikileaks came around. And one of the cables was dealing exactly with this power station. Now, pay attention:

      According to the American diplomats in Bulgaria building the station DECREASES our energy dependence from Russia and Russian oil and gas tycoons intentionally crafted the anti- power station propaganda. The cable explains the logic behind this statement at length; I won’t reproduce it here.

      I almost fell from the chair reading this cable. Why, oh why I don’t have the possibility to high jack all the media in BG and just shout, “Go read the cable, you idiots!”
      The people still argue like crazy about the issue and none has read the wikileaks. What a bunch of idiots we humans are, no?

  18. Re:We worship the blowhard by dragonhunter21 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The majority of atheists are left-leaning because the right doesn't really play nice with atheism.

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  19. Re:We worship the blowhard by Antisyzygy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ok. Clinton, and FDR are two people who came in power, who are left leaning, and who did not destroy the economy. You can hardly call a dictator "left-leaning" because that isn't even in the principal of the "left" so you can already scratch off numerous people from your argument. Whatever that syndrome's name, its been my experience that the majority of now-a-days Republicans fall under the "dumb but think they are smarter" category. Why else would they want to put "intelligent design" into schools? Why else did they sponsor a war in Iraq that literally has no worthwhile outcome for our nation? Why else has the disparity in wealth been getting worse since Reagan? It has also been my experience that Republicans make a mess of things for short term gains and then Democrats have to clean it up for the long term ones (FDR). Look, Im not even a Democrat, this is just an observation from a relatively centrist person. Wait to fulfill Godwin's law BTW, even though it was a little half-way.

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  20. Re:Facts? by ledow · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's not facts that are the problem. It's the illogical leaps from facts into craziness that are the problem, and stating opinion as fact. If you do that, you need a good reputation.

    I pretty much *guarantee* that Google has to do whatever the federal enforcement says. It's called the law. To make the leap from that to "use another search engine" is an irrelevant and illogical conclusion unless you can provide facts that other search engines aren't similar affected by any government whose jurisdiction they operate in. And in terms of things this guy has said, it's nothing.

    The only thing you can take away from someone else's opinion is reliant on their reputation. This guy believes and has said a lot of crap, quite publicly, and not denounced it until months after it's caused him a lot of trouble - including having to backtrack on quite clearly calling someone (the US president) a racist.

    He has a self-confessed history of severe, long-term alcohol and drug abuse, suicide attempts, he's used miscarriage as a joke to play off the mother, he's had several high profile firings, several arrests, several cities, organisations, churches and advertisers have rushed to disassociate themselves with him and he has more conspiracy theories of his own than an X-Files fan club.

    And, personally, he claims to have been saved from professional obscurity (and several other things) by God, and belongs to the church of latter-day-saints, which kinda rules him out of my personal "might have an brain in there somewhere" list.

    Nobody really cares if the facts are wrong or right. It's his interpretation of them that leads him into ridicule. I *know* that if I drop my laptop, it will hit the floor. I don't explain it away as a government conspiracy that all laptops are subject to gravity in order that the US can drill holes in the Earth's crust and steal my laptop. The *fact* I stated is true, the opinion / explanation is almost certainly 100% bullshit and as "unproveable" as any other.

    Seriously, from not knowing anything of the guy, within about 20 minutes of independent research, I've put him on my personal "Ignore anything he says" blacklist.

  21. Re:We worship the blowhard by MachineShedFred · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm glad that no centrists or left-leaning individuals ever make sweeping generalities about people that have views which differ from their own.

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  22. Re:blocking facts and research by Skarecrow77 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So, having a fiscally conservative, socially liberal, and generally libertarian viewpoint on government otherwise (i.e. I don't fit into a neat little political "color"), I felt the need to comment:

    1. I agree.
    2. I agree, although taxes punish everybody (Except those who don't pay any of course).
    3. I'd say that a good number of problems we have in society today came from religion(s) in the first place. That said, I agree that government should not be attempting to legislate morality or good behavior. Their job is to enact and execute laws within the scope of their charter necessary to the function of society, and then provide for justice when such laws are broken.
    4. Whose god? any specific one? Zeus? Allah? Odin? Jehova? Vishnu? Paladine? I am of the opinion that "endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights" basically translates in modern speech to "These rights are present from birth, by virtue of being a human being, and not given or privlidged by the government, thus not capible of being controlled by them". Given the religious freedom bent of early colonists, as well as the founding father's belief in a strong seperation of church and state, I have a had time believing that they'd be referencing any specific god when they mention "creator", which is of course probably why they used that exact phrase.
    5. Once again, whose god, whose morality, and doesn't this contradict what you just said in point #3?
    6. It's funny you quote that specific line, since it was originally "life, liberty, and the pursuit of property". Really it was, look it up. It was changed to "happiness" to be more general.
    7. That is true, but as much as it sucks to admit it, the vast majority of them have a pretty good reason for hating us. We're dicks, really we are.. Sure there a few loonies that have been whipped into a fervor by charismatic madmen and by the media, but the real truth is that the US has used it's position of power in the world to basically be giant assholes when we want to be? Example. Did you know that after the Iran-contra affair, the US was convicted of war crimes against Nicaragua, but we used our position as a permanent member of the UN security council to veto every attempt to punish us after that conviction? That's just one example. Really a lot of the people in the world who are pissed off at us have a legitimate gripe. I'm not an apologist, I'm simply saying don't turn a blind eye to the complaints of the rest of the world just because they're not on your team.

  23. Re:We worship the blowhard by paiute · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The majority of atheists are left-leaning because the right doesn't really play nice with atheism.

    The majority of atheists are progressive/liberal because that is where the evidence takes you.

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  24. Insulting as news by lttlordfault · · Score: 4, Insightful
    As a UK citizen I only ever see Glen Beck in satire shows, the first thing that struck me after watching this was how insulting the spinning fox news icon in the corner of the screen was. Could anyone point out a single factual piece of news in that entire piece? Everything he said was qualified with clauses like "it seems to me" or simply forming his babble in questions.

    How on earth can this tripe be paraded on a news channel, giving it a faux sense of authority over the facts.

    I have no problem with political opinion pieces on tv but don't try masquerade it as news as that simply insults my intelligence.

  25. ! monotheistic by jDeepbeep · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Christians are monotheists, but Mormons are polytheistic

    Although Christians claim loudly they are monotheists, they are still unsatisfied with just worshiping God (as Jews do), and have added in a dead Jew who they worship instead, attributing to this man-god-hybrid all the powers of the original God. This is not really monotheism.

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    1. Re:! monotheistic by houghi · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Theologians can persuade themselves of anything. Anyone who can worship
      a trinity and insists that his religion is a monotheism can believe
      anything -- just give him time to rationalize it.
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  26. No True Scotsman. by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is a pretty common fallacy Christians like to use when they're embarrassed by other Christians. Given all the variations of "monotheistic" Christianity, especially given most of them accept the Trinity and many accept Saints as well, why should it be impossible for there to be a polytheistic brand of Christianity, and why would it matter to you?

    It certainly doesn't seem to matter to his fans!

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  27. Yes, there is the BBC for one by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well it depends on how you look at it. And what you consider a conspiracy theorist/nutter. The BBC has a clear agenda of promoting a multicultural society while being run by the oxford elite and including very little of the multicultural society and villifying anyone who dares question this.

    Does that count? Probably not to someone who agrees with this point of view. Moron is such a subjective label after all. It always seems to apply to people you disagree with.

    Media tends to be owned by someone and that someone doesn't always have to be a single person. But overtime any company or group tends to hire like-minded individuals turning it more and more into a singular voice because you don't hire someone who disagrees with you.

    An example? In holland the Labour party PvDA (Partij van de Arbeid) is being called the (Partij van de Allochtonen/Immigrants) because of its soft stance. BUT this is a left leaning WORKER party, didn't they use to be dead against immigrants being used to take jobs away from local people and drive minimum wages down? Wasn't it in fact right wing parties that wanted immigrant labour from Turkey in europes to do jobs the companies didn't want to pay local workers for?

    Ah yes! So how can a party AGAINST immigration become labelled as PRO-immigration?

    Because over the years the leadership changed. From worker background/union to highly educated bleeding hearts. Some people think union and bleeding hearts are both left wing but that just goes to show the sillyness of trying to represent the whole political spectrum on a single axis. You wouldn't call Stalin a bleeding heart would you?

    But at the same time, how comes the dutch VVD (Right wing by dutch standards, commies by US standards) is now leading a government with a so-called strong anti-immigration agenda and even spawned Geert Wilders whose whole agenda is anti-immigration? Did they forget who championed the whole immigration move from Turkey in the first place?

    Yes, we got our nutters, but it depends on who you ask as to who is pointed out as the nutter. Geert Wilders and Job Cohen (leader of the PvDA) are BOTH considered insane by their opposition.

    Really, we had the queens speech a while ago, a person with her own far reaching audience and a guaranteed tv spot and half the nation hailed her speech and half condemned it.

    Glen Beck is a conspiracy theorists in your eyes, not in the eyes of his followers. Conspiracy is in the eye of the beholder. So it makes no sense to ask this question if you want an honest answer.

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  28. So tired of Glenn Beck... by Beelzebud · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I wish he'd finally have his Lonesome Rhodes moment, and get it over with.