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Trying To Lure Suckers, Company Resells Open Source Blender

sylphsama writes "A company named 'IllusionMage" deceptively resells a 3D open source animation package (Blender) and claims it as their own. The software, dubbed IllusionMage, portrays flagrant similarities with Blender, although outdated compared to the original. The website itself is a patchwork of sorts, using renders from different users and numerous other packages as a way to impress its visitors. Not only is that a breach of copyright, but they intentionally hide that the software is distributed under the GNU GPL license, rendering it free to use. The Blender Foundation itself has spoken out through its chairman Ton Roosendaal." I love that they promise "Free Updates For Life. All From the Thriving Open Source Community, This Software is Forever Improving."

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  1. Legit by RobDollar · · Score: 2, Informative

    What he's doing is completely legal. Quite how much money he makes would be interesting to see, anyone buying a 3d package would surely do a small amount of research. Law of averages will prevail I suppose.

    He's been doing this for ages, and does it with various other software packages.

    1. Re:Legit by ozmanjusri · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What he's doing is completely legal.

      His customers appear happy, and given that he's marketing to die-hard Windows & Mac users (no Linux version mentioned), the fee probably makes them feel more comfortable. It's a feature...

      " Wow this software is incredible. I have owned Maya, 3DMax and PoserPro. I can tell you, this is by FAR, the easiest software to use."

      Isaac Oneil - Marion, NC

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    2. Re:Legit by Darkness404 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, what they are doing is not legal. They are taking non-free images and using it on their own site while claiming it is their own. There's nothing wrong with someone taking Blender, remaking it, licensing it under the GPL and creating a website and selling it. But that isn't what these people are doing, they are trying to deceive others and not crediting the images they use to promote their product.

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    3. Re:Legit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Considering that the site has the same layout and colours to many other scam sites (Warcraft Levelling Guide, How To Pick Up Girls Waay WAY Hotter Than Your Ex, Buy These Meds They Will Fix Everything In Existence), one can safely assume that the customers do not exist.

    4. Re:Legit by LetterRip · · Score: 4, Informative

      His customers appear happy, and given that he's marketing to die-hard Windows & Mac users (no Linux version mentioned), the fee probably makes them feel more comfortable. It's a feature...

      " Wow this software is incredible. I have owned Maya, 3DMax and PoserPro. I can tell you, this is by FAR, the easiest software to use."

      Isaac Oneil - Marion, NC

      He creates false testimonials (I reported him to one of the corporations he was using in a false testimonial - he had fabricated the individual and testimony.)

    5. Re:Legit by LetterRip · · Score: 5, Informative

      Seriously though, they did add notes to all of the images naming the source. Maybe they asked permission, and that was all the creators asked of them? I'd advise we hold off on the lynching until one of the artists comes out and complains.

      No they did not ask permission. We specifically denied them to use of some of the images and of our videos (some are CC licensed and thus we have no control over, but many are not). However he has ignored most of the requests from the Blender Foundation.

    6. Re:Legit by Darkness404 · · Score: 2

      Um, no they didn't. The only thing is that it says on the site is that "Images supplied by: GPL Released Wiki's " which they aren't. Because of the images cited on the page that Blender shows the artist's page which have all rights reserved to them.

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    7. Re:Legit by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I thought artists didn't deserve copyrights anymore and lived on a "failed business model".

      Always hard to always stay up to date on the current common wisdom of Slashdot.

    8. Re:Legit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's a legitimate stance that fraud is a worse crime than copyright infringement.

    9. Re:Legit by pipatron · · Score: 2

      Yes.

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    10. Re:Legit by t2t10 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Always hard to always stay up to date on the current common wisdom of Slashdot.

      The GPL is an attempt to use copyright against itself. So, GPL license holders are going to insist on having their copyrights enforced, even though they disapprove of the current copyright system. There is nothing new about this strategy, it's been the same for more than 20 years; I'm sorry you haven't been paying attention.

    11. Re:Legit by calmofthestorm · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There's no logical inconsistency in objecting to plagiarism but not copyright infringement.

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    12. Re:Legit by rtfa-troll · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What you need to do is to send him a C&D and then a serious lawsuit. If you don't have funding then please announce that and we will provide. I now pledge 100 Euro on actual instigation of a court action against him for a specific GPL violation if you need it and provided that you demand appropriate damages (as with the BusyBox cases).

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    13. Re:Legit by Lonewolf666 · · Score: 2

      Depends under which license the pictures were released. I did not dig that deep, but yes, the images could become expensive: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statutory_damages_for_copyright_infringement.

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    14. Re:Legit by Lonewolf666 · · Score: 2

      Well, if you want to get nasty:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statutory_damages_for_copyright_infringement. The lawsuit might actually pay for itself...

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  2. Hide what? by DaHat · · Score: 5, Informative

    At the bottom of the page it clearly says:

    Released Under GNU GPL. Source code available for download

    1. Re:Hide what? by Microlith · · Score: 2

      That and the link to the tarball is held off of their "Disclaimers" page. But from all appearances they're trying to sucker the unsuspecting into paying them for a copy of Blender with no real improvements.

      The summary is wrong that they're in violation of the GPL, but it is very deceptive.

    2. Re:Hide what? by mug+funky · · Score: 2

      what about the examples gallery? looks like copyright infringement to me, though they do display the blender foundation copyright on them.

    3. Re:Hide what? by StikyPad · · Score: 3, Insightful

      While the site and sales pitch are sleazy, it appears what you're really paying for are the video tutorials which, unless I'm mistaken, were produced by the guy running the site.

      TBH, it looks more like someone's trying to drum up faux controversy to get their site linked from the front page of Slashdot.

    4. Re:Hide what? by LetterRip · · Score: 2

      Most of your emails probably went to me :) We are aware of the assorted scammers, some are scams others are misleading.

      The biggest complaint I have is that he uses misleading advertising that violates our copyright.

      Also he does spamming via facebook, twitter, and SEO spam farms.

  3. Easy? by ogfomk · · Score: 4, Funny

    I knew it wasn't Blender because the commercial said it was "easy".

  4. Also been done with OpenOffice by tomhudson · · Score: 3, Informative
    Anyone else remember, a few years ago, how there were web sites that offered, for something like $50, a copy of OpenOffice?

    Now this isn't to say that it's wrong to sell GPL software - even RMS and the GPL v3 licenses say that you can sell it for whatever you can get for it - but that anyone else is free to do the same with the copy you sell them, so the price quickly drops to zero.

    You may charge any price or no price for each copy that you convey, and you may offer support or warranty protection for a fee.

    They're doing the "sucker born every minute" thing.

    1. Re:Also been done with OpenOffice by Darkness404 · · Score: 3, Informative

      The problem isn't that they are reselling it, that is perfectly legal. But they are using the Blender Foundation's copyrighted images and other people's copyrighted images to do so.

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    2. Re:Also been done with OpenOffice by msauve · · Score: 2

      It's just zero if you market it by saying "you can have it for free but buy it from me anyway." I wonder how many marketing schools tell their students not to do that.

      Obviously not the one Red Hat uses, and they've been pretty successful, doing pretty much the same thing as the company mentioned in the article (charging for free software, and implying that it's their own). CentOS seems not to have significantly hurt their profits.

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    3. Re:Also been done with OpenOffice by afabbro · · Score: 3, Funny

      Anyone else remember, a few years ago, how there were web sites that offered, for something like $50, a copy of OpenOffice?

      Yeah, they were calling it "Star Office" or something like that.

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    4. Re:Also been done with OpenOffice by Alex+Belits · · Score: 3, Informative

      Plagiarism is independent from copyright infringement -- it is a form of both libel and fraud. The fact that existing (massively fucked up) law conflates the two and makes copyright the only protection against plagiarism, does not make it dependent on the justification for current copyright laws. GPL openly uses copyright to achieve goals that are the opposite to the goals of people who created current copyright-related laws, and even shitheads like yourself stopped screaming about it being some kind of hypocrisy, so I recommend shutting up and writing something about Gimp not supporting CMYK.

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  5. FlightGear by U8MyData · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Same, nearly identical, treatment for flightprosim.com knock off of flightgear.org. Shame....

  6. Re:They have released source code by antifoidulus · · Score: 2

    Essentially what they are selling is the training video, the software is included as a "service" and like you said they do say that it's open source, though a bit sheepishly of course. Just someone looking for something to get outraged about, nothing to see here.

  7. 2 Hours or less by denn1s · · Score: 2

    Want to create Pixar and Dreamworks In 2 Hours or Less? Easy! just ripp off this already free software, then ripp off some illegal Pixar models on the net and you are set! BEAUTIFUL Animations With Minimum Effort...
    There's no way to make a decent animation in two hours, unless your movie is based on a bouncing ball in a squared box, heck even that would take more than two hours in blender, Producing 3D Animations & Graphics Ha[s] Never Been THIS EASY

  8. Re:Typo in summary by SpazmodeusG · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ugh. No. The trailing dot is perfectly correct and it should be there. It's actually a hack that the trailing dot is implicitly assumed in domain names.

    "It's a little-known fact, but fully-qualified (unambiguous) DNS domain names have a dot at the end."

    http://www.dns-sd.org/TrailingDotsInDomainNames.html

  9. Re:Not the greatest web site, either by MaggieL · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...which has a grammatical error in it's explanation...

    BZZZZT Game over, thanks for playing. ;-)

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  10. Re:Typo in summary by bk2204 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Any browser (or other DNS-using software) that does not accept a terminal period on a domain name is broken. The root of the DNS is ., and this domain could just as well be written as "news.slashdot.org.". In fact, using a terminal . may speed up access if anything because it prevents the use of any "search" statements in /etc/resolv.conf.

  11. Legit? by angus77 · · Score: 2

    You missed the bit where the software is being promoted using copyrighted artwork.

  12. Layout by drb226 · · Score: 2

    Legit or not, you gotta love the layout of that website. Someone should make a wordpress theme called "scam" that looks like that...

  13. Re:Not the greatest web site, either by damn_registrars · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...which has a grammatical error in it's explanation...

    BZZZZT Game over, thanks for playing. ;-)

    The "apostrophe - s" there shows possession. If the explanation belonged to John, we would say "John's explanation". Here I was using the informal "it" to refer to the company or product, hence "it's explanation" as the explanation belonged to it.

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  14. Re:Not the greatest web site, either by FilthCatcher · · Score: 2

    BZZZZT - ok so you've thought about it but you're still wrong.

    http://www.wikihow.com/Use-Apostrophe

    Be aware of the its/it's trap. Use an apostrophe with the word "it" only when you want to indicate a contraction for "it is" or "it has." It is a pronoun, and pronouns have their own possessive form that does not use an apostrophe. For example, "That noise? It's just the dog eating its bone."

  15. Re:Not the greatest web site, either by Pokey.Clyde · · Score: 2

    ...which has a grammatical error in it's explanation...

    BZZZZT Game over, thanks for playing. ;-)

    The "apostrophe - s" there shows possession. If the explanation belonged to John, we would say "John's explanation". Here I was using the informal "it" to refer to the company or product, hence "it's explanation" as the explanation belonged to it.

    Wrong.
    It's is a contraction for it is or it has. Its is a possessive pronoun meaning, more or less, of it or belonging to it.

  16. Special launch offer expires in Date() + 3 days by dk3nn3dy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This part is awesome:

    Your Dinky One-Time Investment Is Only $47!
    (This is a special launch offer only, we're only opening this for the next 3 days only before the offer closes forever!)
    Thats right. Your investment for the entire course is only $47 (this launch offer will closed anytime after February 26, 2011 )

    Where February 26, 2011 is:
    days = 3; // How many days to add to today
      d = new Date();
    now = d.getTime(); // Add 10 days
    d.setTime(now + days * 24 * 60 * 60 * 1000);
    document.getElementById("offerEnd1").innerHTML = formatDate(d);
    function formatDate(d) {
    var months = new Array("January", "February", "March", "April", "May", "June", "July", "August", "September", "October", "November", "December");
    return months[d.getMonth()] + " " + d.getDate() + ", " + d.getFullYear();;

  17. Re:Not the greatest web site, either by Confusador · · Score: 2

    Nope, sorry. The rule to remember is "Possessive pronouns do not have apostrophes." So: mine, yours, his, hers, its, ours, theirs

  18. Re:Typo in summary by dermoth666 · · Score: 2

    Actually the problem isn't with browsers, but rather some Web servers that see a difference between "example.com" and "example.com." IIS is one of them, which makes the "issue" quite visible.