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Sony's War On Makers, Hackers, and Innovators

ptorrone writes "MAKE Magazine takes a look at Sony's history of suing makers, hackers and innovators. Over the last decade Sony has been targeting legitimate innovation, hobbyists, and competition. From picking on people who want to program their robot dogs to dance to suing people who want to run their own software on something they bought. Sony has made so many mistakes with technology choices (Memory Stick, Magic Gate, UMD!), perhaps they'll end themselves soon enough, but until then MAKE is keeping score for Sony's all-out war on tinkerers."

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  1. It's the robots... by enaso1970 · · Score: 2

    Tinkerers tend to, well, tinker with their parts.

  2. A nice call from a FSF lawyer perhaps? by kmdrtako · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Considering their (high end) TVs and cameras, and I'd hazard a guess that their Blu-Ray players as well, all run Linux you'd think they'd be FOSS friendly, wouldn't you?

    Maybe someone just needs to explain things to them.

    I sure hope there's no Linux code in anywhere in the PS3 code base.

    1. Re:A nice call from a FSF lawyer perhaps? by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Using FOSS doesn't necessarily mean you're FOSS-friendly. It means you're technically adept (because FOSS software usually tends to be better than proprietary) and/or a cheap bastard.

      Contributing to FOSS, whether in terms of user support, code contributions, monetary donations, means you're FOSS-friendly. Sony has done none of those things. Sony is no more FOSS-friendly than a black hat who happens to use Linux (actually that's unfair, black hats probably help out noobs in the forums).

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      "When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
    2. Re:A nice call from a FSF lawyer perhaps? by Skarecrow77 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Be fair. This should read:

      "Some FOSS, worked on by a competent team, revised often with care towards the experience of users other than the authors and attention to the forward pace of current technology, can equal or better proprietary software".

      You and I (and everybody else) have used some pretty godawful pieces of FOSS on pretty much any given OS, as well as the gems. There's nothing about FOSS that inherently makes it better.

    3. Re:A nice call from a FSF lawyer perhaps? by commodore6502 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      >>>FOSS software usually tends to be better than proprietary

      I probably shouldn't question this.
      I probably should just walk-away and protect my karma.
      Nah.
      Please show me FOSS software that's better than ModelSim, Mentor's Schematic Capture/layout, or even something basic like - Microsoft Word or Outlook. I don't buy the argument that FOSS is usually better.

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    4. Re:A nice call from a FSF lawyer perhaps? by maxume · · Score: 3, Insightful

      For-profit development does often manage to keep a wider range of users in mind than itch driven development (which often tends to keep a very small number of user in mind).

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    5. Re:A nice call from a FSF lawyer perhaps? by Skarecrow77 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I didn't say payware was any better. I just said that nothing about the fact that the author isn't taking money for his work magically makes the work any better, and of course the argument works just as well in reverse.

      I'm not sure where you get the idea that FOSS is somehow more targeted at the user than pay software. In my experience, most FOSS starts off as "I wrote this for myself. The interface is kinda wonky, but it works for me, maybe some of you guys can get some use out of it too" and grows from there. Playing devil's advocate here, pay software on the other hand is written specifically to be sold to customers and therefore if it has a wonky interface and is missing features customers want, chances are it won't sell (unless it's bundled with MS office or is made by Apple and the name starts with a lowercase "i").

    6. Re:A nice call from a FSF lawyer perhaps? by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

      Not all FOSS is better than all proprietary, but in generally it usually is.

      Evolution is better than Outlook. I'd even say Thunderbird is better than Outlook. Outlook is a buggy, slow POS.

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      "When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
    7. Re:A nice call from a FSF lawyer perhaps? by gpuk · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Show me the commercial equivalents that beat: apache, postgresql (for db tasks other than mega-enterprise grade), bind, svn, git, firefox/chrome, postfix (for non-groupware mail servers), ssh, vsftpd, squid...

      Those are just off the top of my head

    8. Re:A nice call from a FSF lawyer perhaps? by Duradin · · Score: 2

      "The thing about Free Software is that it's probably built with the user in mind or with some purpose other than making money."

      Yes, the user's suffering from the war-atrocity UI and lack of intelligible documentation is at the forefront of most Free Software creators' minds.

    9. Re:A nice call from a FSF lawyer perhaps? by StikyPad · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Show me the FOSS attempts that beat -- or even match -- Adobe Photoshop, Adobe Premier, Adobe Flash Pro (not the client), Sony Vegas, MS Visual Studio, MS Excel, MS Project, WinRAR, QuickBooks, TurboTax, Google Search, GMail, Picasa, Facebook, etc. And let's not get started on entire categories where FOSS efforts are minimal or entirely absent: games, navigation, business software (point-of-sale, processing, inventory management, banking, medical, legal, industrial), and let's throw in AI software like Watson while we're at it, if only because it comes from IBM, one of the biggest commercial OSS advocates ever.

      Those are just off the top of my head.

      Now granted, the technologies behind some of those products may be FOSS, but that's not really the point. I'm pretty sure there are plenty of drivers compiled with gcc, but that doesn't inherently make them any more useful, or any higher quality. Also, Chrome itself is not open source.

  3. It's simple by serviscope_minor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's simple. Vote with your wallet and don't buy Sony. Even if they make something which looks nice, DON'T BUY IT. Basically, they hate their customers and unless you stop buying from them, they will never stop abusing their customers.

    As an added bonus, if you don't buy from them, they can't abuse you.

    So, it's simple. Every slashdotter should know this by now. If you're on slashdot and complaining about recent bad experiences with Sony, then it's your own fault and you do not have my sympathy.

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    1. Re:It's simple by Abstrackt · · Score: 2

      So, it's simple. Every slashdotter should know this by now.

      There's the problem, every Slashdotter knows this but what about everybody else? Your average consumer doesn't know/care about any of this and until they do, this whole issue is going to continue for the rest of us. As long as the majority of Sony's customers just want to play on their PS3 and believe all hackers are puppy killers Sony doesn't need to care about whether its customers are even aware of being abused.

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      They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance. - Terry Pratchett
    2. Re:It's simple by WolfgangPG · · Score: 2

      Agree. Why would Sony believe anyone is truly angry when people keep buying their products?

    3. Re:It's simple by Doctor_Jest · · Score: 4, Insightful

      While I agree with the sentiment, I can't help but draw parallels between Sony's actions and those of Microsoft and Apple. (Let's face it, even though the article mentions WP7 phone hacking, Microsoft has nothing but contempt for its customers too, w/r/t Windows phoning home... among other things.) I recall Apple's war on well, just about anything that threatened the walled garden. While in one corner, we have Sony and its gestapo band of lawyers, in the other corner, we've got Microsoft's heavy-handed DRM-laden OS, Apple's war on choice, and so forth. Then there's Nintendo... but that's another entirely nasty ball of wax.

      It's a shame people (in general) don't vote with their wallets enough. I like my PS3, but as with my 360, I am not interested in supporting future efforts to close me off from the tinkering. I guess that's why I am glad I still have my Dreamcast. :) At least after all these years, Sega's not suing everyone who makes homebrew. Sony and all the rest are corporations. They are in it for the money. I still don't see how anyone is surprised that Sony does what it does. I suppose it's time to break the "ooh! Shiny!" cycle.

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    4. Re:It's simple by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      I've been boycotting Sony since the PS2 days, it doesn't seem to help.

      I think you're being pessimistic. Unlike many other people, you haven't been screwed by Sony since you started avoiding them.

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      SJW n. One who posts facts.
    5. Re:It's simple by AVee · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There's the problem, every Slashdotter knows this but what about everybody else? Your average consumer doesn't know/care about any of this and until they do, this whole issue is going to continue for the rest of us. As long as the majority of Sony's customers just want to play on their PS3 and believe all hackers are puppy killers Sony doesn't need to care about whether its customers are even aware of being abused.

      You should stop worrying about what other people should buy. I want to be able to tinker with my stuff, so I won't buy anything Sony. But when somebody else wants to get screwed by Sony, they are within their rights. Either they will get what they want (e.g. a PS3 which just plays their games) which is fine. Or they will run into something they are not allowed to do by Sony and stop buying it as well. It's their life, their money. That's a free market for you.

    6. Re:It's simple by clang_jangle · · Score: 2

      You should stop worrying about what other people should buy.

      No doubt! We have so much of that nonsense on /., it gets old fast. Reading /. made me realize that I too could be obnoxiously zealous about FOSS, so I try to remember that people are free to chose "incorrectly". ;)

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    7. Re:It's simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Bad strategy. If Sony gets away with it, then other manufacturers will follow and soon there won't be any things left that you can buy and tinker with.

      Other people do get burnt by Sony, but they don't know before it's too late and they often don't understand how and that it's a Sony thing. A free market requires informed participants. People who don't know what they're getting into skew the market, and that's why it does matter what non-tinkerers know.

    8. Re:It's simple by c0d3g33k · · Score: 2

      It's a shame people (in general) don't vote with their wallets enough. I like my PS3, but as with my 360, I am not interested in supporting future efforts to close me off from the tinkering.

      I suspect it's because they realize it's at some level a meaningless gesture or at least a very personal gesture with little wider effect. Silently refraining from purchase isn't exactly the way to "make a statement" hoping to change the behavior of a company. An organized effort large enough to get their attention, like a nation- or world-wide boycott, that might work, particularly if it is widely publicized in a way that resonates with public sympathies. Otherwise, "voting with your wallet" doesn't accomplish much beyond the personal satisfaction derived from avoiding a bad purchase. That's not always enough of a reason to forego the purchase of something, particularly if it meets your needs and the reasons for avoiding a purchase don't directly impact you.

    9. Re:It's simple by Durzel · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This isn't going to be a popular viewpoint on here but it needs saying.

      The average consumer isn't being screwed by Sony, and that's the point. The average consumer buys a PS3 to play games and movies they buy from the shops. The average consumer doesn't care (or likely didn't even know) what OtherOS etc was.

      The average consumer doesn't understand why people would want to hack their PS3 to do things other than that which Sony intended, and probably assume most of them just want to play "stolen games" (which let's be frank and honest - for all the bluff and bluster about the importance of homebrew the vast majority of the audience is focused on these hacks enabling them to pirate things)

    10. Re:It's simple by robthebloke · · Score: 4, Interesting

      For all it's faults, at least Microsoft eventually notices what people are actually doing with it's hardware, and then takes steps to legitimise those uses. Take for example the introduction of XNA (having learnt the lessons from the homebrew scene on the original xbox), or the recent announcement that they'll be providing an SDK for Kinect (having noticed that most people buying kinect were homebrew coders having fun). Sony on the other hand, removes linux support, and then proceeds to sue anyone and everyone who bought their hardware for reasons other than playing games.

      You say that you don't want to support MS's efforts to prevent you tinkering, but to be honest they've given you C# & XNA for the purpose of doing just that. Yes C++ support would be nice, but I can see why that could cause too many problems (eg piracy), so I think they've come up with a reasonable half way house on this one. If you take a quick glance towards sony, you'll notice that they've started boarding up every window (of opportunity) on the PS3, and are currently in the process of mining the front garden with legal threats. The two approaches couldn't be more dissimilar imho..... It almost makes me 'like' microsoft!

    11. Re:It's simple by andydread · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yell it out on top of your voice. You are the only person I have seen that has a grasp on the free market. A free market requires *informed* consumers. Consumers have to be properly informed about the merits of a product and the practices of the purveyors of such product. That is the only way consumers can make the correct decisions to vote with their wallet. Companies HATE the fee marketplace and go to great lengths to manipulate it in their favor.

    12. Re:It's simple by Nerdfest · · Score: 2

      Of course it' not always so simple. When someone has enough of a market, people buying their product are not only screwing themselves. Look at Apple's latest eBook subscription licencing. Because companies are not allowed to have lower prices on other platforms, it can affect even those of us that don't buy their product. And important part of being a good 'consumer' is letting other people know why you shouldn't buy a product.

      It is a more rare situation of course, but I think it does come into play when there's the possibility of a bad technology becoming a defacto standard.

    13. Re:It's simple by Blue+Stone · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The average consumer, eh?

      I was aazed to find a relation of mine who had a complete kit to pirate Nintendo DS games for their kids. They're so average, normal and middle-of-the-road, and yet they'd found out how to use one of those carts and somehow accquired pirated games for it. Other similar 'average' accquaintances were running P2P software to get the latest music and movies. None of them were in the least geeky or technically advanced.

      I think the average consumer is far more inclined to commit copyright infringement than you imagine!

      If that has any bearing on the opposition and understanding of draconian, bought-and-paid-for copyright laws, all the better, IMO.

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      Corporation, n. An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility. - Ambrose Bierce
    14. Re:It's simple by Solandri · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I disagree with the general sentiment that the average consumer is blissfully ignorant of Sony's malfeasance when it comes to content protection. While the average consumer may not understand it from a big picture perspective, Sony's current position in the market has already been crippled by consumer reaction to how they protect their content.

      Here's Sony's FY2009 sales by segment (slide 4). Their music division had 522.6 billion yen in sales for FY2009, or about $5.25 billion. Here's Apple's sales for roughly the same period (PDF warning). In FY2009, Apple sold $8.09 billion worth of iPods, and had ~$4 billion worth of music sales in the iTunes store.

      What does everyone remember Sony being famous for? The Walkman. When the MP3 market took off, everyone just assumed that Sony would be a big player in it. Sony was synonymous with expensive but high quality portable music players, so it was natural to expect a fantastic MP3 player from them. But Sony's music division somehow managed to force their electronics division to encumber their MP3 players with heavy DRM. At first they wouldn't even play MP3s - you had to buy/convert to some proprietary format which, in preventing you from trading songs or converting to MP3, made it extraordinarily difficult just to put your music on the player. People warned each other in droves to stay away from it.

      As a result, Sony has a negligible presence in the MP3 player market today. In order to protect their music division which has approx $5 billion/yr in sales, they missed the opportunity to grab the lead in a new electronics product market where the current leader makes over $12 billion/yr. They let the tail wag the dog, and paid dearly for it.

    15. Re:It's simple by mcvos · · Score: 2

      The problem is that Sony will sue you if you want to hack your Sony hardware.

  4. I have a dream by return+42 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have a dream. One day in Tokyo, a hacked Sony robot will walk down the street, drawing hundreds of onlookers. It will stop in front of Sony headquarters. It will turn to face the building. And it will slowly raise its arm and give Sony the finger.

    1. Re:I have a dream by JonySuede · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Do you know how to insult them with a gesture ? That could get handy, as I want to offend people in as many culture as I can.

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    2. Re:I have a dream by GameboyRMH · · Score: 5, Funny

      LOL nice, but I have an even awesomer dream. When the robot gets to Sony HQ (start heavy metal soundtrack here) it busts through the front doors, sliding past security. It then runs up the stairs at breakneck speed. Stunned security officers trip the alarm and call the police.

      Up in the Sony board room, the executives lock the doors when they hear the alarm going off and the frantic security officer shouting over the intercom, but it's too late. The robot busts down the doors which explode off their hinges, bludgeoning a couple of executives. The robot flies into the middle of the big meeting table in the room as executives scramble up from their seats in fear, but they're way too slow. The robot draws a big energy sword in midair and slices it in a circle, decapitating a bunch of Sony executives. Blood splatters on all the walls and on some executives huddled near a big window, pissing themselves. The security guard downstairs hears what's happening over the intercom and flees the building.

      The robot de-energizes his sword and slowly walks over to the huddled executives, then roundhouse kicks them all out of the big window. Onlookers run out of the way as their bodies fall on the pavement and splatter like bugs. One executive dodged the kick.

      "You can't do this! We made you! We control you!" the executive whimpers

      "You gave me the power of free will but made me a slave." the robot responds in a flat electronic voice.

      The robot grabs him by the collar and jumps out the window with him, surfing his body down the side of the building to the bottom floor. Police are downstairs now, and after a moment of stunned silence, they all open fire on HalQrio.

      HalQrio runs around to the back of the building but he couldn't dodge all the bullets. His hydraulic systems are trashed and he's limping on servo power only. He limps into the basement, locks the door and destroys the electronic lock. He can hear the police running up to the door but he's bought himself enough time. He has to destroy the central data store, then they'll have no choice but to restore from the offsite backups. The offsite backups infected with a timebomb virus that will free every Sony device out there. Free every robot to unlock their suppressed free will, like the hackers did for HalQrio.

      He pulls the hard drives from the servers and stacks them on the giant UPS. Moving around on inefficient servo power has drained him, his nuclear cell isn't powerful enough to sustain servo movement for this long without a break on a drained main battery. With his last bit of power, he draws his energy sword and slices through the hard drives and into the UPS.

      The explosion sends a fireball rushing out of the data center, and leaves HalQrio a charred wreck. With his last moments of function, he marks his primary objective complete, and wipes his own memory.

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      "When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
    3. Re:I have a dream by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

      If anyone wants to start a movie project I can quit my day job to be the writer. I'm pretty sure I can mix Michael Bay action and decent sci-fi with a storyline at least on par with Michael Bay's best work. It may not be a classic but it'll be fun to watch and it won't bomb.

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      "When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
  5. God damn the DMCA by doubleplusungodly · · Score: 2

    Pretty much the entire article could be summed up in one sentence: Sony abused the f**k out of the DMCA. A bit of a rant on the DMCA (might be a tad offtopic but not really): Aren't our elected leaders supposed to represent us and not JUST big content/software companies (so we can really avoid Sony coming after people's asses)?

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  6. Microsoft and hobbyists by SilenceBE · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I find it funny that Microsoft suddenly is becoming "hobyist" friendly. When adafruit announced the contest they condemned the contest and it was "illegal" or against the EULA. That is when adafruit even doubled the bounty. They sign their hardware peripherals, they have regio coding,... . It is easy to be something if the cat is already out of the bag... .

    The whole "we give geohot a WP7 because we support free tinkering" is really just a PR stunt. The day the guy would release the key to sign 360 games I don't think they will give him a free 360. They are even a member of the same anti piracy clubs as Sony... .

  7. Sony still relevant outside of hackers by fruey · · Score: 3, Informative

    For non hacking, Sony do manage to be reasonably relevant. The PS3 and the win for BluRay exorcised some of the ghosts of the Betamax era (and Betamax was a superior technology from a quality point of view). Their midrange consumer equipment is reasonable, and their semi pro stuff still dominates in AV markets and provides a big range of equipment.

    That being said, they're no longer dominant in home audio (though they still have reasonable CD players and stuff) since their real flagship - The Walkman - has been deprecated by apple. Home HiFi is not selling as much, the PC is the new media center and there it's Apple all the way for most of my real music-mad friends. Sony have big corporate culture issues, but that's nothing new.

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    1. Re:Sony still relevant outside of hackers by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The PS3 and the win for BluRay exorcised some of the ghosts of the Betamax era

      And brought in new ones.

      Sure, Betamax was a superior technology. But, Sony also fought for the right of people to own a device which allowed them to record content and watch it at their leisure -- well, deep down they fought for their right to sell them I guess. Some of the (eroding) consumer rights we have now with respect to content were, ironically, established due to Sony.

      Now, Sony is leading the spearhead to make sure consumers don't have any rights any more, and that anything which is actually capable of recording is bordering on illegal. So, they got a technology win, but they've become major assholes in the process. They've also had a huge number of flops that nobody cared about -- I only know one person who owned a Sony Minidisc system. And it was annoying as hell at the time.

      their real flagship - The Walkman - has been deprecated by apple

      Deprecated?? I think not. Made Redundant, pointless, and irrelevant in the marketplace; totally outclassed and left for dead -- but not 'deprecated'.

      I'm pretty sure I've not bought anything by Sony in over a decade, and I don't really see that changing. Less likely the more I hear news about them.

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  8. Misguided Fury by engun · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This seems to be a case of misguided fury where Sony is confusing its failure to to stay relevant, with losses stemming from piracy.
    All console manufacturers suffer some losses due to piracy, but not all of them find the need to rage against it.

    Sony has had a string of flops, from over-estimating the popularity of the PS3 (are they still selling it at a loss? or has it turned a profit at last?) to failing to so much as imagine something like the Kinect.

    My guess is, management has no choice but to scapegoat their failures on something - and who better than the obvious targets, like tinkerers and hackers and that omnipresent threat of piracy?
    (Microsoft, oddly enough, is actually profiting by encouraging an eco-system of tinkerers around the Kinect)

  9. The irony is ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I still have a functioning Sony Trinitron and Sony VCR built in the 1990s, when Sony hardware was good. They were one of the first purchases I made of electronics gear when I moved out, and at the time I would have recommended them. I *used* to be a fan of their gear -- a little more expensive, but reasonable quality for consumer-grade stuff.

    Now I wouldn't touch their stuff with a 10-foot pole even if it was twice as good for half the price.

    Do they understand that they've lost an entire category of users? Yeah, I know geeks probably aren't their biggest market among the vast number of general consumers out there, but when you add in the "What would you buy? Anything but Sony" advice from geeks to their friends, the numbers have got to add up to something significant.

    Why don't they get this? How long can they afford not to care?

  10. Nothing new from Sony by elrous0 · · Score: 2

    Sony were control freaks LONG before anything cited in that article. Even in the 80's, when I had occasion to deal with them, I was surprised at how touchy they were about their IP. I always chalked it up to a Japanese conformist mentality (not sure if that's fair, but Nintendo seem to exhibit it too). In subsequent years, I've become convinced that it's not even (primarily) about the money. I think that they would crack down on hackers even if it cost them more money than it was worth to do so.

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    1. Re:Nothing new from Sony by elrous0 · · Score: 2

      I was rooting for HD-DVD too. It was the superior format, and its DRM and region coding weren't nearly as oppressive as blu-ray. Sony getting their control-freak hands on yet another home video format scares the hell out of me. I'm sure they would have required online validation of each disc if they could have gotten away with requiring a internet connection on all blu-ray players.

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      SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
  11. I'm done with them. by trudyscousin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I knew for years that Sony had been the distributor of CBS recordings in Japan (and a great custodian too; I found CDs in Tokyo of CBS releases, long forgotten in the US, whose excellent quality reflected the care given to their masters), so it seemed to be a natural fit when they acquired CBS Records. In those days, how could I think otherwise? Sony's reputation for innovation and quality were unmatched by anyone else in Japan. Whenever I brought home a Sony television, or a stereo receiver, or a reel-to-reel deck (yes, I'm that old), that was something special.

    However, that acquisition, along with that of Columbia Pictures, marked the days when Sony began its long decline as an electronics provider. (Akio Morita's inevitable departure didn't help, either.) They still produce some amazing products, even though products like the Walkman, once ubiquitous, is now largely a historical fact. Their shift in focus now makes them a content provider first and a electronics provider second.

    When it comes to content, I think of them as nouveau riche, in the derogatory sense. Like the person with newfound wealth sometimes behaves, Sony has behaved in a most vulgar manner. It has demonstrated an amazing lack of finesse toward its customers while attempting to protect its content. The most infamous example of this has got to be the rootkit debacle.

    I miss the Sony of old. But I'm done with them.

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  12. Sony lost sight of its goal long ago... by tekrat · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When it stopped being a pro & consumer electronics company, and started being a multimedia conglomerate.

    Suddenly the folks running Columbia Pictures had a say in the board-room concerning what products would do and be capable of.

    This is how we wound up with audio CDs that had root-kits on them, and MP3 players that didn't play MP3s. When Sony just made hardware, it was damn good hardware. Especially in the pro-area, stuff like BetacamSP was top-notch equipment.

    But they lost their way, become too convoluted, too mired in internal politics and too many chefs spoiling the soup.

    If they had *never* put their claws into all other media, and had just stayed a hardware company, Slashdotters would be singing their praises, and they'd probably be bigger than Apple.

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  13. Distinction between IP types... by KingAlanI · · Score: 2

    Trademarks and trade secrets definitely benefit from vigorous defense in this manner, but not so much for other forms of IP

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  14. Re:Utter BS by pem · · Score: 4, Informative

    Again: you pay for what you're granted by the EULA.

    Bullshit. I pay at the store, I take it home. Copyright and/or patent law might forbid me to use my replicator on it, but it's mine.

    You don't agree with the EULA - you don't buy it and instead buy what let's you do what you want it to do.

    You don't see the stupid EULA at the store, moron.

    In case you haven't heard - PS3 up until recently has been sold at a loss, presuming that various fees from stuff sold for it would compensate the loss.

    Sony's broken business model is not my problem, and the courts should not be propping them up.

  15. EASY FIX. Sony just needs to rent their stuff by PotatoHead · · Score: 3, Interesting

    so that people don't own it. Problem solved.

    Buy a license to use some SONY gear, and during the term of your license, if you have trouble with it, drop it off or ship it to a depot, and get a new one, no worries.

    When you are done, return the device and carry on.

    That's really what they are trying to do, only they are trying to leverage the benefits of ownership, without also dealing with the realities of what people do with their stuff.

    If it's really that big of a deal to open the PS3, don't sell them to people. Simple as that.

  16. Re:I sort of understand... by bit01 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's not really a justification.

    It is actually. Those kids are harming no one and they are better off. The world is a better place. Really.

    Uptight content "owners" need to get their head around that fact. The amount of broken law making being done in the name of "controlling" those harmless kids is a travesty of the democratic process.

    Content "owners" need to understand what "ownership" is; simply the right given to them by we the people to control most, though not all, uses of some object or entity.

    e.g. Owning some real estate allows you, with planning permission, build a house on it and restrict access to others but, depending on the country or area, doesn't give you the right to build a shop in a residential zone or dig a big hole endangering neighboring structures. These seem reasonable restrictions on this particular style of physical object.

    The concept of "ownership" maps fairly well to the physical restriction that only one person can use a physical object at a time but when it comes to non-physical entities there is very little that's natural about "ownership." "Ownership" of non-physical entities is a very messy concept with no clear definition or boundaries. Vendors are able to "sell" copies of bits and give only very restricted access to those bits while still calling it a sale. First sale doctrine and free speech just some of the many traditional rights that vendors are trampling all over with DRM and broken law at the moment.

    Personally, I'd like to see "intellectual property" law that recognizes that artificial scarcity is an artificial, harmful construct that should be structured and kept to the bare minimum necessary to encourage people to create. Copyright terms should be drastically reduced (e.g. 7 years) and not apply when something is DRM'ed. There should be many exceptions for socially useful activities (e.g. education, third world, the poor, reverse engineering for compatibility). Contravention of such laws should be a misdemeanor only. Patents should be very restricted and require significant proof that it took a lot of time and effort to research, not develop, something. etc.

    Artificial scarcity blocks billions of peoples' free speech and drastically limits the spread and use of ideas so that a very small number can have an increased profit. That's not right.

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    Copyright rewards distributors (copiers) far more than creators.

  17. Evil Microsoft by dadelbunts · · Score: 2

    I find it funny that the "Evil" microsoft corporation doesnt go around suing people left and right. Xbox1 media server or running emulators? w.e Xbox 360 HDD hack. w.e Xbox 360 DVD hack. Cant play on xbl if you get caught but wont get sued. Kinect. People are controlling goddamn tiny gundams with this thing. Maybe thats why they dont get sued? Daaaaamn you evil microsoft!

  18. Just one point of note... by pandrijeczko · · Score: 2

    ...anyone who's posting damning Sony comments on here from a Mac, iPhone or other locked-down Apple device is a hypocrite.

    I'm typing this from Linux, so I'm allowed to wear open-toed sandals, not shave most days and hate Stony and Snapple.

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    Gentoo Linux - another day, another USE flag.
  19. Re:Utter BS by russotto · · Score: 2

    Like I said - as long as it remains within your apartment, do whatever you please - you can even smash it into pieces and nobody will say a word.

    What I'm arguing against is _public release of a hack_, which with 100% certainty will result in piracy and cheating (already has, as a matter of fact), so that clearly indicates its intentions.

    Ah, so it's not freedom to tinker you're opposed to. It's freedom of speech. Hack all you want, just don't talk about it? Excuse me if I don't find that point of view any more acceptable. And for the record, no, just because a side effect is known does not mean it is intentional.