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Study Shows Technology May Inhibit Good Sleep

An anonymous reader points out a study by the National Sleep Foundation which looked at the relationship between sleep habits and the use of electronic communications tech in the hour before bedtime. Dr. Michael Grasidar of Flinders University said, "My research compares how technologies that are ‘passively received' such as TVs and music versus those with ‘interactive' properties like video games, cell phones and the Internet may affect the brain differently. The hypothesis is that the latter devices are more alerting and disrupt the sleep-onset process." The study found that people who frequently send text messages or use their laptops before bed were less likely to report getting a good night's sleep (PDF) than people who don't. "While these technologies are commonplace, it is clear that we have a lot more to learn about the appropriate use and design of this technology to complement good sleep habits," said the NSF's David Cloud.

155 comments

  1. It's not my fault! by intellitech · · Score: 1

    I blame Hulu and Netflix.

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    1. Re:It's not my fault! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, I can't fall asleep now without watching a few netflix tv shows on my netbook.

    2. Re:It's not my fault! by by+(1706743) · · Score: 1

      Actually, according to the summary, it's not Hulu and Netflix that cause the problem -- it's interactivity which is to blame (video games, SMS, Facebook, Twitter, etc.).

    3. Re:It's not my fault! by Shikaku · · Score: 1

      Which to some people, radio/tv/hulutube playing in the background helps people sleep.

      Which for me sucks, because my roommate does this and I need silence :(

    4. Re:It's not my fault! by ncgnu08 · · Score: 2

      I have been using F.lux for about 3 months and I can say it makes a huge difference in my ability to get to sleep. I never had a problem sleeping, it was falling asleep that took me a while. Now, when I go to bed, I go to sleep within minutes. I don't have to be in the dark for half an hour - an hour before getting to sleep, unless my wife is feeling frisky, which is something I can't complain about (although probably not a problem for most /.'ers). Yes F.lux could be a placebo effect, but after three months I feel fairly certain it is the bright light from the monitor, not the actual game/application being used. I actually start yawning while playing a game/watching Hulu or ESPN, which would never happen before I installed F.lux. My old CRT television has never bothered me, as my wife likes to fall asleep to the tv, but the bright light of my laptop monitor is quite different from the light of our tv. I wonder if any of you guys have noticed a difference with CRT screens versus the new LED/LCD/plasma televisions? I assume they would be much brighter, at least for a new LED screen. I know the LED and LCD screes are brighter, but I remember reading it has something to do with the type of light, not just the brightness. Any feedback about the tv's?

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    5. Re:It's not my fault! by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 4, Interesting

      And one has to wonder if it's actually the technology or the person on the other end of the computer that's causing lost sleep. If I spend an hour before I go to bed dealing with work email (which at this hour is largely generated in Taiwan/China), I don't sleep well, only because those idiots are screwing up and this comes back to me.

      Whereas in the pre-computer era I guess you left work at a reasonable hour and had some down-time before bed. Although I hesitate to guess that one filling my job in this era would have been up equally long identifying and requesting fixes to mistakes made overseas and sending them a long, angry memo, before driving home and sleeping.

      So maybe the real cause of lost sleep is the blurring line between work life and personal life and/or the increasing productivity demands of a shitty economy and a lack of viable options for employees?

    6. Re:It's not my fault! by yashachan · · Score: 2

      Tell your roommate to use headphones.

      My boyfriend watches TV on his laptop to help him sleep, but he uses headphones so that my falling asleep isn't affected by it. I had to get used to the extra brightness, but that didn't take very long. I couldn't fall asleep at all, though, when he didn't use headphones.

    7. Re:It's not my fault! by darthdavid · · Score: 1

      he already said he does, though I'm not sure if it's in the asshole...

    8. Re:It's not my fault! by contrapunctus · · Score: 1

      I can't find citation, but i remember a peer reviewed article about how even dim lights (e.g. street light through curtains) affect quality of sleep even though they don't wake you up...

    9. Re:It's not my fault! by syousef · · Score: 1

      Actually, according to the summary, it's not Hulu and Netflix that cause the problem -- it's interactivity which is to blame (video games, SMS, Facebook, Twitter, etc.).

      So is watching porn before bed interactive or not? ;-)

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    10. Re:It's not my fault! by i-linux123 · · Score: 1

      I need some background noise too. I think it has to do with the way I've never bothered investing specifically in quiet fans on PC's I've built, and as they've become more and more powerful they just became louder until the point where I need some background noise to fall asleep. Otherwise I can hear a bit of stuff from neighbors and such, and those background noises overlaid on the "loud scilence" is annoying. I recommend Sleep Analyzer http://maemo.org/downloads/product/Maemo5/sleepanalyser/, (THere's also the iPhone app), so you can see to some extent what the noise looks like during sleep, my comfort zone is with a constant hum.

    11. Re:It's not my fault! by Shikaku · · Score: 1

      Headphones

      TV

    12. Re:It's not my fault! by ncgnu08 · · Score: 1

      Thanks for showing some of us actually read the posts we respond to darthdavid, as I thought I was pretty clear about that part with "...which is something I can't complain about...." I'm going to bet the anonymous coward falls under the "...although probably not a problem for most /.'ers" although I was mainly joking about that part. And to answer your question darthdavid that is only when she is feeling really, really frisky ;-)

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    13. Re:It's not my fault! by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 1

      Headphones

      Laptop

      > implying on slashdot

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    14. Re:It's not my fault! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My wireless headphones were the best thing I'd ever bought for listening in bed.

    15. Re:It's not my fault! by besalope · · Score: 1

      Yeah we have similar at our work, only we deal with India instead :( Some of the workers understand the job and are excellent, others... not so much.

    16. Re:It's not my fault! by ghjm · · Score: 1

      Well, you're comparing now with 50 or 100 years ago, which is the blink of an eye in evolutionary terms. There's no reason to suppose that industrial age factory workers slept particularly well, or any better than we do now. Hunter/gatherers on the African savannah no doubt slept like babies, on the nights they didn't get eaten by a leopard.

    17. Re:It's not my fault! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is there an android equivalent?
      Did some searching on market to no avail.

    18. Re:It's not my fault! by gmhowell · · Score: 2, Funny

      Get him to fuck you again and you should both sleep ok. If that doesn't work, repeat until you are both too exhausted to do it again.

      Geez, kids these days...

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    19. Re:It's not my fault! by khallow · · Score: 1

      Hunter/gatherers on the African savannah no doubt slept like babies, on the nights they didn't get eaten by a leopard.

      I imagine it would have been more the other way around.

    20. Re:It's not my fault! by i-linux123 · · Score: 1

      I don't know. You might be able to find a web-based equivalent, though I wouldn't recommend sending all sound to some random place on the net. Since the app is open-source it should be fairly easy to port too.

    21. Re:It's not my fault! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interesting points. Time to go look at pr0n so I can sleep like a baby. Thanks Technology!

    22. Re:It's not my fault! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, it works by recording movement.

    23. Re:It's not my fault! by mjwx · · Score: 1

      So maybe the real cause of lost sleep is the blurring line between work life and personal life and/or the increasing productivity demands of a shitty economy and a lack of viable options for employees?

      I deliberately make sure I do not do any work after 8 PM unless there is an emergency (READ: Something had better be on fire) for this very reason.

      But I've taken to reading before trying to sleep of late, I read for 1 to 3 hours yet I'm having a harder time sleeping then when I spent the same time reading things on the internet or playing video games.

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    24. Re:It's not my fault! by TA · · Score: 1

      I don't believe it's interactivity that's the problem. I've found that if I play a lot of guitar before bedtime, maybe with singing, I sleep very well indeed. Better than I would if I didn't do anything that evening. And making music is interactive, I'm not passively sitting there like if I'm watching TV.
      However, if I work on the computer before bedtime it may be that I won't be able to sleep for a while, that typically happens when I'm working on an interesting programming issue and my brain keeps popping up new ideas when I'm actually trying to sleep.

    25. Re:It's not my fault! by gknoy · · Score: 1

      Ah yes, back when babies slept like hunter-gatherers .... ;)

      I think you're right, though. I know that I am normally a ROCK when it comes to sleeping, but if my baby made weird noises or screamed or I heard Really Weird Shit, I was up in a snap. It was surreal.

    26. Re:It's not my fault! by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      I'm doubtful of the entire premise; I've seen no evidence of this irl. What's the difference between a cell phone conversation before bed, and a landline conversation? We've had phones for a hundred years. What's the difference between Hulu and the old black and white TV we had as kids? What's the difference between a web page and a book? People have been reading themselves to sleep for centuries. This study sounds less believable than tabletop cold fusion.

      I've not even seen evidence that we aren't sleeping as well. Personally, I sleep better than I have in my life, despite aches and pains and a lumpy mattress.

      If people aren't sleeping well, it's probably what you said -- they're laying awake worrying, after going to bed too late. I don't do that; I leave work at work.

    27. Re:It's not my fault! by xaxa · · Score: 1

      I started using redshift (Linux version of f.lux) about a month ago, it's great.

      I still need to spend less time on a computer in the evenings, I think too much sitting at a desk or cramped up with a laptop is bad for me.

    28. Re:It's not my fault! by Heian-794 · · Score: 1

      It looks from the f.lux page that the application automatically adjusts the light based on where you live.

      I'm a night shift worker and have trouble getting to sleep when I arrive home at 5 AM. The sun has just come up then, so I imagine that the computer screen will be at full brightness.

      Would it be advisable to somehow try to fool f.lux into thinking I live in a place where normal people are about to go to sleep, or are the default setting better even if you need to be awake at night and sleep in the day?

    29. Re:It's not my fault! by ShakaUVM · · Score: 2

      >>And one has to wonder if it's actually the technology or the person on the other end of the computer that's causing lost sleep.

      In 1991, scientists discovered a third type of photoreceptor to go along with the rods and cones we all learned about in elementary school. They were discovered in humans in 2007. They're called photosensitive ganglion cells:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosensitive_ganglion_cell

      The kicker is that they detect light and directly wire into the parts of your brain controlling your circadian cycle. So when you're staring into your bright monitor all day and night, you're pushing back your circadian rhythm all the time, and DSPS:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_sleep_phase_syndrome

    30. Re:It's not my fault! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm new to this forum..

    31. Re:It's not my fault! by TempeTerra · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure it's based on how engaged your brain is. Reading is probably using your imagination and all the bits of your brain associated with understanding real-world situation, whereas if you're playing some kind of clickfest like bejewelled or diablo (or, dare I say it, WoW) most of your brain can get on with shutting down for the night.

      On the flipside, if I'm trying to get over jet lag or need to stay awake for some other reason nothing beats a good game of Civ - that'll keep my brain spinning for 48 hours straight given the chance.

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    32. Re:It's not my fault! by TempeTerra · · Score: 1

      IIRC (it's on my home computer) f.lux changes the colour profile of your desktop towards red, which is like sunset/firelight/sleeping time, and away from blue which is like bright daylight. It's usually set based on its calculated dawn/dusk times from the time on your computer and the location you enter in the settings. I'm sure you can either override the location or just lie to it - you'd want the 'night' colour while you're meant to be getting sleepy.

      Anyway, it's a free tiny download so just give it a go and see what you think. I like it.

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    33. Re:It's not my fault! by Kyont · · Score: 1

      That's right; you can set your location on Earth, your desired "color temperature" for daytime and nighttime, and whether to transition slowly (60 min.) or quickly (20 min.). There is also a quick "disable for one hour" option function if you're doing some color-sensitive work like graphic design.

      I was skeptical about installing more useless junk on my machine, but now I love F.lux and can hardly stand to work at night without it. Try it out!

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    34. Re:It's not my fault! by Heian-794 · · Score: 1

      Thanks, Tempe. I live in Tokyo and it's 5:25 AM here; I'm going to bed in half an hour. I told F.lux that I was in Dublin so that my computer behaves like it's early evening, and the screen is a bit reddish, as if a sunset were streaming in from behind me.

      I'll try it out for a while and see what happens!

    35. Re:It's not my fault! by WastedMeat · · Score: 1

      Hunter/gatherers on the African savannah no doubt slept like babies, on the nights they didn't get eaten by a leopard.

      I have actually noticed that while camping, I don't seem to sleep hardly at all; I am constantly aware of the wind and any footsteps outside my tent, but when waking up the next morning, I am far more alert than I ever feel waking up at home. Last weekend, I spent two nights in a 16' sailboat with a minimal cabin, and two kayaks tied up outside. I spent what certainly felt like most of the night with my eyes closed but well aware of the sound of the kayaks bumping against the hull, in constant fear that my anchor had slipped and that bumping was not due to the kayaks. I saw the sun rising each morning as I was drifting in and out of total and partial awareness. But three quick beers after waking up, I was still far more alert than I would have been at 9 or 10 am on any weekday.

      Last night and the night before, I slept in a very comfortable bed, and was completely oblivious to any surrounding stimulus. Now it is 4:30, and I am still sipping coffee in an almost vain effort to keep my eyes open. It makes sense to me that the natural way to sleep would be on edge, with some actual awareness retained, and that certainly seems to work better for me than just being out. We didn't just climb down out of the trees onto a memory foam mattress in a locked condo.

      Of course, the two examples I gave are also situations in which there is minimal exposure to modern distractions...

  2. TV=good by Toe,+The · · Score: 1

    Funny to read a scientist referring to sittin' on the couch vegging on TV as, basically, the good ol' days.

  3. It's 1:09am London time. by bbtom · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And I'm reading Slashdot.

    Case closed.

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    1. Re:It's 1:09am London time. by Twinbee · · Score: 1

      1:13 here in Bedford and I've got a cold. Beat that.

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    2. Re:It's 1:09am London time. by Arty2 · · Score: 1

      3:15 here and Greece and going for an all-nighter, should I worry?

    3. Re:It's 1:09am London time. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      To be fair though, nobody should be able to sleep with a stomach full of English food.

    4. Re:It's 1:09am London time. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Greece? Yes, you should worry.

    5. Re:It's 1:09am London time. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody in England actually ate today, we have to prepare ourselves for stuffing about 93 pancakes down our gullets tomorrow. (Pancake day! Hurrah!!)

    6. Re:It's 1:09am London time. by jouassou · · Score: 1

      3:42 here in Norway, and I'm supposed to attend lectures at 10:00...

    7. Re:It's 1:09am London time. by Macgrrl · · Score: 1

      I

      Mmmmm.... Pancakes....

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    8. Re:It's 1:09am London time. by antdude · · Score: 1

      Go to sleep! :P

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    9. Re:It's 1:09am London time. by Kilrah_il · · Score: 1

      11:17 here us Israel. I win!

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  4. Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, they're just now figuring out that something interactive - that requires your thoughts and input - puts you in a wakeful state? While, say, TV on the other hand puts you to sleep - you know, like a "couch potato".
    There's a reason I dislike non-interactive entertainment, I'm not a vegetable.

    1. Re:Seriously? by buchner.johannes · · Score: 2

      From other studies, I am certain the issue is the light emitted.

      For sleeping, your brain expects dim, red light. Bright, blueish light (what typical lamps, LEDs and displays emit) wakes your brain up or keeps it awake. The effect of turning on the light when going to the bathroom is a shock to the brain that takes quite long (1 hour I believe) to recover from (getting back to sleep).

      Good advice is to go to sleep early, and wake up early, to use dim red lights rather than blue lamps in the evening. Try it out and you'll feel more refreshed.

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    2. Re:Seriously? by Martin+Blank · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I wonder if the advent of modern LED lighting will allow a programmed shift toward red lights in the evening and a shift from red to blue bias in the morning to allow gradual shutdown and awakening, rather than the shock of an alarm clock or bright lights.

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    3. Re:Seriously? by Rik+Rohl · · Score: 0

      To paraphrase: Going to bed wired makes it hard to go to sleep.

      Can I get a grant please?

    4. Re:Seriously? by bbtom · · Score: 5, Informative

      There's already an app you can get for Windows, Linux and OS X called F.lux which changes the colour temperate of your screen based on your time and location. http://stereopsis.com/flux/

      Just installed it and my screen has a very strong yellowy-pinky tint as it is 2am.

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    5. Re:Seriously? by scdeimos · · Score: 1

      I actually go the opposite way with my marine fish tanks. I have time-controlled LED lighting rigs over those tanks that use specific wavelengths of red and blue lighting to avoid the wavelengths that cause algae growth (mainly around green). As the day cycle shifts to night cycle, the output spectrum shifts to all blue - to simulate moonlight and encourage night time activities in the corals, fish, etc.

    6. Re:Seriously? by forgotten_my_nick · · Score: 1

      I have been using this for 3 weeks now and it is excellent. It also tells me when I am working too late as my workplace has natural lightbulbs.

    7. Re:Seriously? by pythonax · · Score: 1

      As a warning, I was having framerate issues with anything that actually used my graphics card when I was using F.lux. I liked the program, but that kind of killed it for me.

  5. Then what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I cant drink coffee, watch tv, surf on my iPad, go for a walk, take a bath. Now what am i supposed to do for the last hour? Sit in a chair and stare at the wall?

    1. Re:Then what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You did all of that at the same time? Weirdo.

    2. Re:Then what? by _merlin · · Score: 2

      Have sex, you idiot. That's the best thing to do before going to sleep.

    3. Re:Then what? by Hatta · · Score: 1

      Best time to have sex is in the morning, afternoon, or an hour or two after dinner. I'm always too tired to have sex by the time I feel like going to sleep.

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    4. Re:Then what? by darkonc · · Score: 2
      Best time to have sex is when your SO is in the mood.

      Then again, I did have one girlfriend who never let me live down the time I started snoring mid-sex, so -- yeah, you can really be too tired to have sex, but it's pretty rare.

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    5. Re:Then what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm diagnosed with hypersomnia. I'm probably narcoleptic.
      Suddenly falling asleep during sex, eating, or important conversations is a regular occurence without my medication (I take modafinil). With the medication, I have more warning and can try to push my brain back from a conscious REM-like pre-sleep state to a regular conscious waking state (typically a focused, rather than relaxed, one; relaxed states aren't conducive to interrupting the patterns of falling asleep).
      My fiance felt rather insulted the first time I conked out during sex. Now, she usually just thinks it's funny and wakes me back up. :-D

    6. Re:Then what? by c0lo · · Score: 1

      Sit in a chair and stare at the wall?

      Have you tried reading "A la recherche du temps perdu", "War and peace" or "Crime and punishment"?

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    7. Re:Then what? by Totenglocke · · Score: 1

      Crime and Punishment is a fantastic book. If you want something to put you to sleep, try a math book (not saying math is uninteresting, merely that READING a math theory book is mind-numbing).

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    8. Re:Then what? by c0lo · · Score: 2

      Crime and Punishment is a fantastic book.
      If you want something to put you to sleep, try a math book (not saying math is uninteresting, merely that READING a math theory book is mind-numbing).

      Happens exactly the opposite for me. With maths, I found myself trying to almost construct a visual interpretation behind the math theory. In regards with Crime and Punishment.... I reckon that my empathic abilities suck.

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    9. Re:Then what? by mcgrew · · Score: 0

      Um, first... this is slashdot!

      Also, I was in bed by eight last night. Good thing, too, 'cause Amy came by banging on my window at two. Now I can't get back to sleep .

      So I got six hours and won't be worth a damn at work... because I got laid.

  6. I dunno about that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Slashdot's been pretty damn good a putting my to sleep the last few years...

  7. An hour without using any technology... by orphiuchus · · Score: 1

    Damn right I'll get sleep, there won't be anything else to do!

  8. Correlation is not causation by Hatta · · Score: 3, Informative

    The article refers to a poll, not an experiment. Could it be that those who have trouble sleeping are more likely to engage in interactive entertainment?

    Personally, I very, very rarely have trouble sleeping. I usually find myself getting too tired for interactive entertainment about an hour before I want to sleep. I'd *love* to be able to continue playing video games up until lights out, but I just don't have the energy. Those who have lots of energy will keep playing/blogging/hacking.

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    1. Re:Correlation is not causation by c0lo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Personally, I very, very rarely have trouble sleeping. I usually find myself getting too tired for interactive entertainment about an hour before I want to sleep. I'd *love* to be able to continue playing video games up until lights out, but I just don't have the energy. Those who have lots of energy will keep playing/blogging/hacking.

      Based on your /. ID, I reckon most of your inability to continue playing and low energy levels might be age related.

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    2. Re:Correlation is not causation by timeOday · · Score: 2
      Quality of sleep usually isn't an issue until the onset of early middle age or so.

      For me games are not much of a problem, and I can wind down from programming fairly quickly, but if I do work e-mail within a couple hours of going to bed, I'll toss and turn worrying about work. Arguing about politics or job hunting before bed doesn't help me either - anything that gets the mind racing.

      Running less than a few hours before bed also keeps me up.

      As for the correlation != causation argument, it's very easy to experiment on yourself by intentionally avoiding things that keep you awake and see if it helps - for me it certainly does. If you have no trouble sleeping under any conditions, don't worry about it!

    3. Re:Correlation is not causation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can totally see it being the person. I just know MANY females (not to gender-ize) that cannot leave a text message unread. Whether it's at a mall, coffee house, etc. Just having their phone out and knowing there is a text on there, they are helpless. I've seen this countless times out in the dating scene. I actually had to put up a sign in my apartment "cell phone free zone" and make people abide by it, because people were more into their mobiles than in person conversation. Yes, I've walked away from dates at coffee shops because they wouldn't leave their phone alone for 5 minutes.

    4. Re:Correlation is not causation by DavidD_CA · · Score: 1

      I think the topic was about getting a *good* night's sleep, not about trouble falling asleep.

      I'm not vouching for the poll, just making a distinction. Perhaps you're not having problems sleeping, but the sleep you're getting isn't very good? (That might also be why you just don't have the energy.)

      In other words, maybe those who use interactive technology just before bed are still able to fall asleep, but it's worthless sleep. Perhaps our brains are still too excited because of the interactivity to do whatever they're normally supposed to do when we sleep.

      If nothing else, consider that the human brain is the result of some 1 billion years of evolution... and all but the last 10 years have had technology-free sleep.

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    5. Re:Correlation is not causation by Max+Romantschuk · · Score: 1

      Personally, I very, very rarely have trouble sleeping. I usually find myself getting too tired for interactive entertainment about an hour before I want to sleep. I'd *love* to be able to continue playing video games up until lights out, but I just don't have the energy. Those who have lots of energy will keep playing/blogging/hacking.

      Based on your /. ID, I reckon most of your inability to continue playing and low energy levels might be age related.

      It's predominantly genetic. I sleep 4-7 hours a night. My father is the same. I also tend to go straight from the 'puter to bed, and be sound asleep in about 5-10 mins. Some people simply need more sleep than others, and vice versa. Falling asleep is also a skill in itself, partly genetic, partly learned.

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    6. Re:Correlation is not causation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could it be that those who have trouble sleeping are more likely to engage in interactive entertainment?

      The polite term you are looking for is 'evening person' at least if the wiki article on Night Owls is accurate at the time I read it.

      And I'm sure the beeping and blinking and flashing and the whirring and humming...sorry.

      Ahmen: the small datacenter of computers in the nearby 'home' office next to the bedroom has nothing to do with poor sleeping. It's just like the sounds of the woods, but for IT folk, yes?

      No possible mechanism at all. Nope. No falsifiable theory here. Move along now I have 4am backups that are about to kick off.

    7. Re:Correlation is not causation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also I think it might be chicken or egg. Your mind is still working so you have trouble sleeping. Your mind is still working so you might be browsing instead of zoned out in front of a tv.

    8. Re:Correlation is not causation by ElderKorean · · Score: 1

      Personally, I very, very rarely have trouble sleeping. I usually find myself getting too tired for interactive entertainment about an hour before I want to sleep. I'd *love* to be able to continue playing video games up until lights out, but I just don't have the energy. Those who have lots of energy will keep playing/blogging/hacking.

      Based on your /. ID, I reckon most of your inability to continue playing and low energy levels might be age related.

      Yeah he does seem a little young to be up late at night, though at least he's not still in primary school..

  9. Easing into sleep by Troll-Under-D'Bridge · · Score: 1

    This discovery simply extends the idea that restful activities like reading promote sleep better than do physically and mentally demanding activities like heavy exercise. Of course, working yourself to (physical and mental) exhaustion may have the same effect as lying in bed and reading a book.

  10. Go mental stimulation! by RyanFenton · · Score: 1

    I happen to love being "on" as much as possible - in an aware state, perceiving as much as possible, living as much as I can with my limited lifespan.

    So much so, that I tend to almost always avoid anything that will interrupt this process, like mind-altering substances from alcohol to coffee.

    I can certainly appreciate the need for sleep to recuperate, and silence as time to reflect - but I don't see mental stimulation as some venal sin, or carving the occasional slice of time away from 8-hour sleep blocks as destructive act.

    You only get so much life - sleep is mostly just what I have to do in order to get to more awareness - the little slices of death that remind us how limited our time is.

    Ryan Fenton

    1. Re:Go mental stimulation! by syousef · · Score: 1

      Yes but minimising your sleep will minimise your awareness. So sacrificing a few hours of extra sleep in order to be even more alert in your wakeful hours is often a good idea.

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    2. Re:Go mental stimulation! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which is why I practice lucid dreaming... that way, sleep isn't just wasted time for me. I have my own personal reality-simulation-unit to access every night for a few hours. The only "wasted" time is then during deep sleep, when I'm not actually dreaming.

  11. f.lux by JonySuede · · Score: 1

    I use f.lux it the placebo effect is working

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    1. Re:f.lux by JonySuede · · Score: 1

      but the clonazepam is better !

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    2. Re:f.lux by Yxven · · Score: 1

      F.lux really does help with insomnia. I doubt it's the placebo effect since you set it up once and forget about it.

      If you haven't heard of it, it's a free simple program that adjusts the colors of your monitor when the sun goes down in your area.
      http://stereopsis.com/flux/

      I credit F.lux with curing my insomnia.

      (I'm in no way related to the project)

  12. So it's easier to fall asleep... by John+Hasler · · Score: 2

    ...listening to the radio than playing a video game.

    Wow. Who'd a thunk it.

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    1. Re:So it's easier to fall asleep... by Q-Hack! · · Score: 1

      WoW... Yep, that is the reason I can't get any sleep.

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    2. Re:So it's easier to fall asleep... by antdude · · Score: 1

      You mean "WoW". [grin]

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    3. Re:So it's easier to fall asleep... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Switch to solitaire... that puts me to sleep every time :-)

    4. Re:So it's easier to fall asleep... by Simulant · · Score: 1

      Switch to solitaire... that puts me to sleep every time :-)

      Seriously.... I've found playing solitaire-like games (mahjong, bejeweled variants....) work as well as an Ambien for getting me to sleep on a regular basis. I play on a handheld with screen dimmed and lights out. It's been a godsend. Now if I could figure out a way to stay a asleep all night.....

  13. tech isn't the problem, it's just a similar factor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this study is worthless. technology in and of itself has nothing to do with inhibition of sleep. it's obvious that ANY **activity** that 'demands' attention will keep your brain active longer to a point where you ignore / forget about sleep.

    most of us have experienced this playing games late into the night and the next morning, where you're focusing so much on an activity such as repeatedly seeking, focusing on once found, and finally shooting an enemy. or, more infamously, focusing on that "one more turn" in civilization or a similar game where there are a multitude of various actions to take to further your goals.

    but you can say the same about someone in, say, a war zone. they would certainly 'forget' about sleep if a bunch of bullets are flying around, demanding that they stay alert if they want to live. also, even if you're tired, if you suddenly start playing a sport that's constantly active, like soccer (as opposed to slow paced baseball), then you'll focus your attention on tracking the movement of the ball and other players, and as a bonus the adrenalin kicks in. this all would continue until your body just "ran out of fuel" and you "crash" / pass-out rather than drift off slowly into sleep.

    so where technology these days comes into play is simply that it provides more options for active participation rather than passiveness like television does. "One more instant message", "One more article (on /. , digg, reddit, whatever)", "One more comment in my favorite forum", "One more post to read / write on Facebook". but then you could say the same about the stereotypical teenage girl on the telephone late at night talking to her best friend about boys, or clothes, or whatever, like we did before all this fancy tech came along and became mainstream.

    so what did this "researcher" actually "discover"? that people can lose track of time and forget / ignore being tired because they are engaged in an activity. and why did they not sleep "well"? probably because they simply didn't get ENOUGH sleep because they had to get up and go to work / school the next morning, OR, the activity itself (tech related or not) keeps playing in the mind after sleep, which is also not restful. DUH. so yeah, thanks captain obvious for that brilliant study of something we already knew.

  14. Good Job I have ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Good job I have Porphyria because I don't even have a "Normal" sleep schedule, it's all over the map.

    I don't work in an office (basically impossible with severe Porphyria), so people are always asking me when I sleep because I send business emails 24/7, and am lucky to get a 5 hour night (starting about 4 or 5 am).

    Thank goodness for 24/7 Tech accessibility!

  15. hmm I can see the point, but then again... by Nocturnal+Deviant · · Score: 1

    I am CONSTANTLY fixing my sleep schedule, I have taken numerous different sleeping medications, but to be honest no matter what even after a ton of melatonin, i am still up and online, I know it has to do with having so much information so readily available, but it also probably has another type of sleeping disorder.

    TL;DR There are too many factors.

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  16. Technology, but not mine. by FatLittleMonkey · · Score: 2

    The only technology that's ever interfered with my sleep is my neighbour's sub-woofer.

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    1. Re:Technology, but not mine. by JayRott · · Score: 1

      I have the same problem, inconsiderate deaf neighbors.... well that and god-damned stumble upon!

    2. Re:Technology, but not mine. by cerberusss · · Score: 1

      The only technology that's ever interfered with my sleep is my neighbour's sub-woofer.

      A friend of mine experienced this in reverse. When the neighbors talked with him, he aimed his sub-woofer at the room, not at the wall. Load of difference for them.

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    3. Re:Technology, but not mine. by dargaud · · Score: 4, Informative

      A while ago there was a /. story about a guy would couldn't talk his neighbors in turning their music down at night, so he got some _really_ powerful electromagnet coils, put them on his wall opposite their speakers, and ran all king of signals through them. After a while they stopped.

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    4. Re:Technology, but not mine. by Thing+1 · · Score: 1

      The only technology that's ever interfered with my sleep is my neighbour's sub-woofer.

      A friend of mine experienced this in reverse. When the neighbors talked with him, he aimed his sub-woofer at the room, not at the wall. Load of difference for them.

      "at the wall, not at the floor" you mean?

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    5. Re:Technology, but not mine. by Thing+1 · · Score: 1

      Er, I think that now I get it; they had already gone from "don't upset the downstairs neighbor" by aiming it at the wall; then, they turned it around and aimed it at the room. Silly early morning brain. ;)

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  17. probably more 'fight or flight' than anything by nido · · Score: 1

    If one's 'fight-or-flight' response is being constantly activated, it'd be hard to sleep.

    Do you meditate or relax your body daily?

    I used to have a ton of trouble falling asleep, but now I'm a consistent 12am->7:30am sleeper.

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  18. I noticed this ages ago by trawg · · Score: 1

    I usually go to bed at around midnight. I noticed that if I worked late (right up until the point I went to bed) or played PC games until around the same time, I would simply be too wired to go to bed and just fall asleep.

    Watching TV didn't seem to have the same effect though; I could stay up late watching the box and then walk into the bedroom and pretty much faceplant and sleep immediately.

    I now try to have the PC off by 10pm to stop me getting tempted to just check one more email or have one last round of StarCraft 2, because of the effect it has on my ability to get to sleep easily at my preferred sleeping time.

  19. Acectodal: YES by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a sleeping disorder. I take meds for it which can actually cause insomnia. Don't ask, it doesn't make any bleepin' sense.

    Anyways, I found that working on my computer or watching TV - which BTW I don't always do before sleeping - make it difficult to go to sleep. I light emitted from the screen is maybe 25% of the problem. I find if I'm computing or watching TV before going to sleep my mind is too engaged in this activity it makes it difficult to shut down my brain and be able to fall asleep.

  20. I'd say it varies by Roogna · · Score: 1

    Despite the studies, and as a tech guy and a lifetime insomniac I can say from experience that the -reasons- for the use can make a huge difference. This is true of books and older "tech" too. A exciting story on the written page that gets you thinking isn't going to put you to sleep near as well as something that's quiet and calming. I find surfing the web doesn't bother what sleep pattern I have much. On the other hand I avoid news sites like the plague for the 3-4 hours before bed as I know there's bound to be something that will just irritate me and keep me awake.

  21. One Hour Before My Bedtime by juancnuno · · Score: 1

    One hour before my bedtime, I turn off my laptop, smartphone, and TV

  22. 4 hours by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i thought the military proved a long time ago that people only need 4 hours sleep every 25 hours... And that we are addicted to sleep (for a lack of media?)

    1. Re:4 hours by c0lo · · Score: 2

      i thought the military proved a long time ago that people only need 4 hours sleep every 25 hours... And that we are addicted to sleep (for a lack of media?)

      For military, that highly likely true... You see, while in the army you are not suppose to think, only to react (at orders or at on how the tactical situation evolves)... with rest, the reflex-arcs recover much sooner than your central nervous system.

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    2. Re:4 hours by Kyont · · Score: 1

      It's also a lot easier to get by on 4 hours sleep when you're 22 and your biggest worry is being blown apart by a roadside IED or getting publicly dressed down by your sergeant for dereliction of duty. It's a lot harder to get by on that little when you're 50 and your biggest worry is wondering who will finish raising your kids when your early heart attack comes. Once you're past 38 or so, respecting your body's limits (i.e. getting enough sleep) will usually gain you additional decades of life.

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  23. So rare, it's a super-power. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So the people who are active, thinking about things and taking part in activities are less likely to doze off than the lethargic couch-potato type?
    ...my common sense is tingling.

  24. This guy needs to go to work at Amazon by Karl+Cocknozzle · · Score: 1

    said the NSF's David Cloud.

    Seriously! "Our family is so much cloud visionaries that we MADE IT OUR NAME."

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  25. Other "interactive" media? by adamofgreyskull · · Score: 2

    I recall reading some years ago that it's preferable to watch television or listen to radio in the hour before sleep than to read a book or solve crossword puzzles, for similar reasons to those stated in the summary. It's a pity the poll didn't include more traditional "interactive" media as well.

    1. Re:Other "interactive" media? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny. I've actually heard the exact opposite. Of course, with a good book or a good slashdot discussion I wind up staying awake hours past when I meant to, whereas tv usually gets boring long before that...

    2. Re:Other "interactive" media? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does porn count as "interactive"?

    3. Re:Other "interactive" media? by nowen2dot · · Score: 1

      Does porn count as "interactive"?

      Depends...are you watching it or making it?

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    4. Re:Other "interactive" media? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would be interested to see where "talking" comes into this scale of "interactive" processes best avoided for a good night sleep.

  26. They're right! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's hilarious. Just the other morning, my wife came out as I was playing Starcraft 2 and reminded me that it was 2:30am and I should be getting some sleep. I guess technology *does* inhibit sleep.

  27. Clearly ... by PPH · · Score: 1

    technologies that are 'passively received' such as TVs

    ... the researcher failed to consider all the viewers who yell at Fox News.

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  28. I work night shift by rossdee · · Score: 1

    And I get woken up during the daytime by telemarketing robocalls

  29. read before bedtime by cats-paw · · Score: 1

    I've started doing this again, and I find that it helps a great deal, even if it's techie stuff.

    Really, _especially_ if it's techie stuff.

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  30. Solution to the Sleep Problem by lackofsleep · · Score: 1

    I used to watch movies with explicit sexual content before going to bed and had a lot of trouble. Ever since I switched to reading Slashdot before turning out the light, it's been no problem.

  31. Known for 10 years by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've had sleeping issues since high school about 10 years ago. Typically, I can't sleep until about 3 AM, and only get about 4 hours of solid rest. After that, I doze in and out of sleep for a couple hours.

    I was in Africa for a bit, and regularly had no power - which meant no laptop. My sleep pattern improved drastically during those periods of time. However, the instant power was back I was using the laptop at night again. Immediately, the sleep issues returned. (Note that we did have a generator, so we still had lights and some appliances on when the power was out, but in general avoided turning anything unnecessary on unless we absolutely needed them, like computers).

    I've reproduced the same behaviour in myself now that I'm in America. Cut out the laptop at night - start sleeping great in a few days. Re-introduce it: really, really rough week.

    1. Re:Known for 10 years by Malc · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I gotta agree with ya. If I have insomnia and give up trying to sleep for a while, reading online means I will be awake for 2-4 hours, but reading a book will generally mean I can get to sleep in 30-60 mins.

    2. Re:Known for 10 years by Malc · · Score: 1

      Oh, and I've been wondering if it's the light stimulation from screens too. Maybe kills the melatonin production?

    3. Re:Known for 10 years by cerberusss · · Score: 1

      That wouldn't surprise me one bit. I like to read in bed, but I use those tiny LED-based reading lights so I can read my (non-LCD) Kindle e-reader and still fall asleep with the light on.

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  32. Article summary by fluffy99 · · Score: 1

    The people who are so obsessed with twitter and facebook that they bring the laptops to bed, can't get to sleep as well as normal well adjusted people who just watch a little TV before bed. Guess which group also has a better relationship with their spouses?

    1. Re:Article summary by colinrichardday · · Score: 1

      Spouses? On Slashdot?

  33. Executive summary by J'raxis · · Score: 1

    We all know TV is bad for you because it turns you into a lazy, passive couch potato. And now video games, cell phones and the Internet are bad for you because they ...don't.

  34. I call BS! by erroneus · · Score: 1

    It's midnight and I'm on slashdot... oh... I get it....

  35. Sigh by digitalhermit · · Score: 1

    I literally sleep in front of my computer. I sleep on a sleeping bag on the carpeted floor in front of two laptops attached to a 23" monitor between them. I wake up quite often at 3AM. Sleep is a problem, but I never really attributed it to the equipment. I turn off the monitors, put the laptop displays to sleep, and they don't beep during the night.

  36. Wrong headline! by swordgeek · · Score: 2

    OK, it's not the technology, it's the interactivity. The article makes that clear. I'm surprised that this is considered news, though. It's the reason I can sleep after cycling but not after fencing.

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    1. Re:Wrong headline! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny, when I do have insomnia, a few minutes of a low intensity game usually does the trick.

    2. Re:Wrong headline! by dargaud · · Score: 1

      OK, it's not the technology, it's the interactivity. The article makes that clear. I'm surprised that this is considered news, though. It's the reason I can sleep after cycling but not after fencing.

      There are plenty of studies that show it's not the activity but the light from the screen. The blue light actually: there are even some apps that will redden your screen to avoid this problem.

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  37. NONSENSE! by Ranzear · · Score: 1

    Technology is amazing!

    It's the goddamn TVTropes that inhibits my good sleep...

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  38. Bah to sleep. by antdude · · Score: 1

    Sleep is so overrated. ZzzzZzzz... :P

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  39. A related article and poll from 2007 ... by antdude · · Score: 1
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  40. Other Things by BradleyUffner · · Score: 1

    Wouldn't playing a good old fashioned game of Chess do the same thing? Why blame it on the electronic stuff when there are plenty of non-electronic things that can engage the mind.

  41. I got your poll right here by villain222 · · Score: 1

    I find that if either the TV or the computer has something interesting I'm locked in. That's why i call them the devil box and satan screen. oooo! Navy Seals!

  42. Maybe that's why.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I never get to sleep.

    Checks out as far as I can tell.

  43. Slightly off topic by RichiH · · Score: 1

    Good sleep is an art and you can help achieve this goal:

    * cold-foam pre-formed pillow
    * nice, warm and cozy blanket
    * skin-friendly sheets
    * the blanket must be at 30 cm longer than you are tall
    * optionally cold-foam pre-formed sleeping mask

    The next step is an even more awesome cold-foam mattress than the one I have, already.

    Inform yourself and buy those within a month. You will love it.

    1. Re:Slightly off topic by lolococo · · Score: 1

      ... and the next step is an even hotter hot-foam girlfriend than you have

    2. Re:Slightly off topic by Thing+1 · · Score: 1

      Actually good sleep is a science. The key: breathing deeply. That's it, really.

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  44. why sleep early by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    when there is so much to read??

  45. More statistical nonsense by louic · · Score: 1

    The following material should be a compulsory read for all university students (and some slashdot commenters). http://xkcd.com/552/ How about: busy and/or stressed people have worse nights and also work more in the evening. One is not necessarily the cause for the other.

  46. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

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  47. I didnt read the study by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ive always though that the light from these screens caused my brain to clamp down on melatonin levels and thus making me awake.

  48. Asleep a work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If this is true, why do I often nod off at the keyboard at work.

  49. PDF content? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most of the pages in the linked PDF are literally unreadable.

  50. If it's interactivity.... by Britt+Simmons · · Score: 1

    Wouldn't reading before bed be just as interactive as surfing the internet or playing a game?

  51. BREAKING NEWS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Science proves something every person on the planet already knows.

  52. No screens after 9 by Kreela · · Score: 1

    I used to sleep badly, until I started to follow one rule: no screens after 9pm, whether it's for the TV, internet or games. Now I always get enough sleep, unless I break this rule for some reason. Funnily enough it doesn't seem to matter if I read in bed, which makes me think that the backlighting on screens may have played some role in stuffing up my circadian rhythms.

  53. No Shit Captain Obvious! by Tragedy4u · · Score: 0

    WTF do you think the technology in an alarm clock is design for! Ummmm DUHHHHHH to interrupt my FSCKing sleep!

  54. I am clearly abnormal by Daetrin · · Score: 1

    Two anecdotal points. First, i don't really seem to have a circadian rhythm. I can get up early and stay up late one day and get up late and go to bed early on another. Given the opportunity i can take a nap in the middle of the day and then stay up all night and return to a more or less normal sleep schedule the next day. And i've never been bothered by jet lag.

    Second, i never have what most people would qualify as trouble falling asleep. However if i don't drop off instantly after going to bed i've got three usual options to speed up the process. Lie still and focus on relaxing muscles one by one, read a book, or play Sudoku on my cell phone. Sudoku usually works just as well as forcibly relaxing myself, sometimes even better, despite the fact that i'm staring into a lit screen and being "interactive." Reading a book _usually_ works just as well, but it does occasionally backfire if it happens to be an particularly interesting book, especially if i'm getting towards the end.

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  55. Bath? by nowen2dot · · Score: 1

    Why are you bathing with interactive devices?

    Were you using the JoyStick in your bath?

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  56. its isnt fault of electronics but human brain by BusyBeeNYC · · Score: 1

    this is very simple ... they are trying to go to bed and still thinking about the text msgs or about what they just seen online.. Even if they would watch tv and see something that touched them they would have problem falling a sleep because they would be thinking about it... its not like it has anything to do with electricity ! http://www.bbcleaningservice.com/

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