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Google Releases Stable Version of Chrome 10

An anonymous reader writes "Google has released version 10 of the Chrome Browser. The update brings hundreds of bug fixes as well as many features that have been available on the Chrome beta and dev channels to users interested in using Chrome's latest builds. Chrome 10 also addresses 23 security vulnerabilities in the WebKit-based browser (easily more than Google has ever fixed before): 15 rated as High, three rated as Medium, and five rated as Low."

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  1. Awesome! by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 1

    Normally I'd throw out a snarky joke like, "You mean the title should've been Google Releases Stable version of Chrome" but as a browser, Chrome's been pretty stable. Flash still makes it fall over from time to time, and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

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    1. Re:Awesome! by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Flash is sandboxed in the most recent version, which should lead to better protection against exploits against Flash. And for a while now Flash should only crash itself if it crashes; not the whole browser.

    2. Re:Awesome! by PickyH3D · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Now, I hope the next one on their list to add Sandboxing support to is Java. Until then, Java will remain disabled in Chrome.

    3. Re:Awesome! by nschubach · · Score: 1

      But does it still hard lock/freeze the whole PC when running a 'Fullscreen Windowed' (no titlebar) 3D game if I open Chrome? I somehow doubt it's going to only freeze up one tab. ;)

      (For the record, Chrome is the only browser that does this, Minefield/Firefox and IE do not.)

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    4. Re:Awesome! by blair1q · · Score: 1

      Software is almost never stable.

      BIBO-stable, yes. For beta-tested values of BI.

    5. Re:Awesome! by vlueboy · · Score: 2

      Browser-based Java programs can't modify the host computer.

      My Windows Vista and XP internet explorer would have to disagree on this one.
      I've twice seen the java box running before realizing exactly how Opera and IE have let spyware thru.

      I really don't have a daily reason for java, but last I remember it is like 60+MBs to reinstall, and the download licensing you "sign" with Sun Microsystems is annoying to get an offline installer exe, so I stopped uninstalling it for those rainy days when a corporate site requires java.

    6. Re:Awesome! by blair1q · · Score: 1

      Why is it when I think of Flash being sandboxed I expect an actual box with actual sand has to be involved to get it to run...

    7. Re:Awesome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are so uninformed it hurts just to read your post.

      I don...

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    8. Re:Awesome! by gad_zuki! · · Score: 1

      I had java disabled in Chrome and the latest java update re-enabled it. Ideally, disabling java should be the default and it should have an entry in the GUI settings menu. No need for a security nightmare VM to be ready to run at any webpage's request.

    9. Re:Awesome! by should_be_linear · · Score: 1

      And perhaps more interestingly, "native client" is supported, which enables you to run c/c++ apps inside Chrome, sandboxed.

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    10. Re:Awesome! by PickyH3D · · Score: 1
    11. Re:Awesome! by adamjgp · · Score: 1

      I love Chrome, but the whole Flash Crash bug has me pulling my hair out. I spend an hour a day at work trying to diagnose how to fix the Flash Crash bug. Seriously hope that Adobe and Google can find a fix for this bug, and soon. It's annoying to go stumbling and find that 2/5 stumbles cause flash to break. Maybe I should just hold my breath until flash is a thing of the past.

    12. Re:Awesome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, it allows you to run 'restricted' native libraries using exposed APIs, (re)compiled for NaCl, which are then sandboxed.

    13. Re:Awesome! by bjourne · · Score: 1

      When I want stability, I use Firefox. Flash also works much better with that browser even though flash always is a hassle on a 64bit os. Chrome on the other hand, smokes Firefix out of the water when it comes to raw speed.

    14. Re:Awesome! by Achoi77 · · Score: 1

      What game may I ask? I fire up all Chrome all the time on my second monitor when I'm playing some WoW to look up misc wow-related things (wow gem finder, wowhead, ej, etc). Never had it crash.

    15. Re:Awesome! by nschubach · · Score: 1

      I just noticed it in Rift recently, so maybe it's just a conflict between some call they make and Chrome...

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    16. Re:Awesome! by Thing+1 · · Score: 1

      If Flash ran around in a sandbox, wouldn't he change it to a glassbox?

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    17. Re:Awesome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's win-lose because even though it might work an exploited Flash runtime can instantly pwn the user account. Personally I'd prefer running Flash in IE over Firefox these days. Actually I'd prefer not running it at all.

    18. Re:Awesome! by buchner.johannes · · Score: 1

      Java Applets are already sandboxed, what more do you need? Java has had a good security record in browsers in the last 10 years, and its stable. Maybe the applets themselves are crappy and don't work, but that's not Java's fault.

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    19. Re:Awesome! by naoursla · · Score: 1

      Every update to the Java JVM has the potential of opening up an exploit in that sandbox.

      For example:
      http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/Threat/Encyclopedia/Entry.aspx?name=Exploit%3AJava%2FCVE-2009-3867.HD&threatid=2147637070

    20. Re:Awesome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why? Firefox crashes only all of the time and it has a tendency to slow the entire machine to a crawl while it's running.

    21. Re:Awesome! by Mythrix · · Score: 1

      I had java disabled in Chrome and the latest java update re-enabled it. Ideally, disabling java should be the default and it should have an entry in the GUI settings menu. No need for a security nightmare VM to be ready to run at any webpage's request.

      There is an option for making all plugins run-on-click instead of auto-run, this affects both Flash and Java applets. about:flags to enable it, then settings > advanced > contents (roughly) to select it.

    22. Re:Awesome! by Nimey · · Score: 1

      You could take the expedient of running Chrome and Java in a SandboxIE sandbox.

      Maybe you could just sandbox Java, but I don't know if that will work.

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  2. RAM for cache? by TheMadTopher · · Score: 2

    Can I finally use RAM for the browser's cache like Firefox to avoid frequent hits on my SSD?

    1. Re:RAM for cache? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That might be nice but it's not going to help much... these aren't thumbdrives -- even the fear myth about pagefiles on SSDs has been basically debunked now. SSDs should handle frequent HTML caches even better.

    2. Re:RAM for cache? by nschubach · · Score: 2

      It's not about lifetime concerns... some SSDs have a slow write time which can be very apparent in normal everyday operation. Granted, I only noticed it when I was fooling around and disabled write caching (platters were also slow, but SSD plain locks the PC for the entire write operation it seems...)

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    3. Re:RAM for cache? by nschubach · · Score: 2

      There's a "workaround"? (I have not tried this, but I just searched for it...)

      http://www.wagnerdanda.me/2010/08/how-to-fix-google-chrome-problems-with-ssd-move-cache-to-ramdisk/

      Of course, if you have a spinning disk, that would work as well.

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    4. Re:RAM for cache? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does it really matter? By my math, you'd have to browse the web for about 10 years nonstop before SSD wear became an issue.

    5. Re:RAM for cache? by __aaxtnf2500 · · Score: 1

      Why not just mount the cache directory on the built in ramdisk? Just allocate more space to it when the kernel loads.

    6. Re:RAM for cache? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      Can I finally use RAM for the browser's cache like Firefox to avoid frequent hits on my SSD?

      Is a userspace program really a good place for such a feature? It seems kludgey to have individual programs handling their own storing-a-bunch-of-files-in-RAM tasks in their own memory spaces and according to their own fashion, rather than just having a tmpfs(or other OS equivalent) to which the user can configure any program that needs filesystem-like RAM storage to point, without any per-program special features being involved...

    7. Re:RAM for cache? by Zoxed · · Score: 1

      If you are on Linux then the most recently used files should be buffered in RAM anyway (maybe newer Windows are better at this now.). (Of course you can help your kernel by closing unused apps to free up RAM to be used for file buffering.)

  3. Back button by zmooc · · Score: 1

    But does the back button work properly? It has been broken for ages on certain sites...

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    1. Re:Back button by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 2, Funny

      But does the back button work properly? It has been broken for ages on certain sites...

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    2. Re:Back button by sxeraverx · · Score: 1

      And releasing the middle mouse button over a link after scrolling. That annoyed the bejeezus out of me and was the reason I switched back to Firefox. It basically made ad- and link-ridden sites unscrollable with the middle mouse button.

  4. 'Stable' is so far behind by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been using Chromium version 54.712 for weeks now.

  5. Old news? by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

    Since I'm already running Chrome 10.0.648.127, I'd have to think this is old news.

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    1. Re:Old news? by Thing+I+am · · Score: 1

      Me too and it still says "beta"

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    2. Re:Old news? by mariasama16 · · Score: 1

      Which channel are you running? My installed version using the stable channel is getting updated as we speak, while my install on the dev channel (different computer) has indeed been running version 10 for some time.

    3. Re:Old news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      11.0.679.0 and I'm still 2 weeks out of date.

    4. Re:Old news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I don't know; it seems to be news to me that Google doesn't know how to patch. To get these critical security fixes you have to go from a 9.x version to a 10.x version. Do you know how much Apple, Microsoft, or Mozilla would be pilloried if they made you jump to a new version to get security patches? This whole, "don't fix it, just release a newer full version - no patches" is pretty lame.

    5. Re:Old news? by Jugalator · · Score: 1

      Google frequently release security patches for their stable and beta channels.

      It's just that this time around, it's time for a more major release. And Google doesn't do the "support old versions" thing.

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    6. Re:Old news? by blair1q · · Score: 0

      For what reason would you not want to go from a 9.x to a 10.x?

      Do you have webpages that aren't forward-compatible? Are they locked into a system that can't be updated itself?

      That's a you problem. Not a them problem.

    7. Re:Old news? by Lulu+of+the+Lotus-Ea · · Score: 1

      Since I'm at 11.0.686.3, I'm even more blasé about this.

    8. Re:Old news? by ifrag · · Score: 1

      That old version? I'm at 11.0.689.0 (76563) so I'm even MORE blasé about this.

      I was a little paranoid about running "unstable" builds for a while but I haven't really seen any problems with it.

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  6. Beta Version by MiniMax333 · · Score: 1

    Now my Beta version of Chrome no longer feels very Beta-like :(

  7. Wow! by atomicbutterfly · · Score: 2

    Version 10! Oh man, and here I am feeling like a chump with Firefox 4. I'm waaaay behind on my Internet power level compared to Chrome. I gotta switch before I completely miss out on the Internet awesomeness provided by the much newer Chrome 10! It's 6 additional levels of awesomeness people!

    // For those who lack the ability to detect sarcasm - mod me down and I shall become more powerful than you can imagine.

    1. Re:Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Power levels are like golf. If you either get it below zero or get it so high it overflows into a negative value, you become indestructible.

      Seriously folks, mod him up to five so we are safe! It takes a lot longer to overflow than it does to get to -1!

    2. Re:Wow! by blair1q · · Score: 1

      FWIW, it's actually Firefox 4.0b12

    3. Re:Wow! by Missing.Matter · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm on Opera 11. How you feel about your puny Chrome 10 now?

    4. Re:Wow! by CharlyFoxtrot · · Score: 1

      I was thinking the same thing. This kind of version inflation is ridiculous, they went from beta to version "10" in about 2 years. Wouldn't want to lag behind Internet Explorer 8. Kinda reminds me of when Slackware jumped straight from version 4 to 7.

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    5. Re:Wow! by SimonTheSoundMan · · Score: 1

      I'm on 4.0b13pre.

    6. Re:Wow! by Rotting · · Score: 1

      Firefox might have to do that same trick that Slackware did when it was at version 4 :)

    7. Re:Wow! by lwsimon · · Score: 1

      Opera: Crank your browsing experience up to 11!

      (posted from Opera 11, oddly enough)

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    8. Re:Wow! by drb226 · · Score: 1

      #ifdef sarcasm_detector

      Yeah, looks like Chrome (10) finally caught up with IE (9). I mean seriously, IE is so web scale, but I guess Chrome is more web scale than IE now.

      #endif

    9. Re:Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uhh, guys. You do realize they just made 10 LOUDER, right?

    10. Re:Wow! by lwsimon · · Score: 1

      No, man - 10 is more than 11! Like... 1 more!

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    11. Re:Wow! by ynp7 · · Score: 1

      Pretty damn good. Thanks for asking.

    12. Re:Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why the hell does anyone care about the version number? Is it too hard to type 10? In a couple years, will it be excruciating to type 25? Just accept the fact that there are no point releases in Chrome.

  8. GPU accleration? by nhat11 · · Score: 0

    Is GPU accleration disabled for XP in this version?

  9. Did webgl make a comeback? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I was all keen on trying it out, but a build in January just crashed horribly, and a few weeks later it seemed to be disabled all together. I have high hopes for webgl, hopefully the browsers will all push it out the door this year.

  10. As long as they stick with that UI by AbRASiON · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Then I'll stick with Firefox, it might get a bit bloated but I have my fingers crossed as hardware improves and they end up making the multithreaded code, it'll at least remain the speed it is now, while retaining good functionality for me.

    Yes, I know they are copying the _ridiculous_ tabs on the top UI from chrome, it can be disabled in the default options though, no addon required to do so.
    Need my status bar down the bottom too.
    FireFox 3 needs only one thing for me.
    More speed, just more and more speed - that's it. It's otherwise, EXACTLY what I want in a browser.

    1. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by Jugalator · · Score: 1, Troll

      NCSA Mosaic was pretty decent too...

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    2. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Chrome UI = slick and to the point
      Firefox UI = clunky

    3. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I pretty much second this. The option for the simplified UI is good, especially for users on netbooks and the like with smaller screens. But, for me I like having a status bar and I prefer my title-bar to be just that, not a place to stick parts of the app.

    4. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Get off my lawn!

    5. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      as hardware improves

      It's 2011. This is your improved hardware.

    6. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Where "slick and to the point" means "hide things that are useful for some, but most don't care about, by default". And clunky means "show things that most don't care about, but are useful for some, by default".

      The only meaningful changes are the tab locations (I get the semantic difference of tabs on top / tabs below - but personally I'm not dim enough to not see beyond the semantics, and know that if I happen to want to click through the tabs, they're in a less error-prone location if they're below), and Chrome apparently not showing the page title in the application titlebar (which also semantically sounds right, but makes alt-tab a bitch, as does using some automation tools like AutoHotKey that have little else to go on than a window's title).

      Lucky for me, FireFox 4 is trying to be more like Chrome, so by the time it has lost all of its advantages, I guess it'll make it all the easier to switch.

      For those just crying for webpage screen estate.. hit F11. All the webpage space you could want.

    7. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by DrXym · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Yes, I know they are copying the _ridiculous_ tabs on the top UI from chrome, it can be disabled in the default options though, no addon required to do so.

      Tabs on top works reasonably well in Windows 7 when you're space constrained. i.e. on a 10" netbook you can squeeze the menu and tabs into a single row which saves a lot of space. Now with the status hover working properly that's even more space saved. The screen is so small that the window is more likely to maximized so it's easy to travel and stop over a tab which will be at the top of the display.

      I think on large displays, it doesn't work so well. Space is not so critical and the window is less likely to maximized. If you travel and miss the tab when you click you'll send the window to the back by accident which is annoying. In this case IMO tabs underneath work better.

    8. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by blair1q · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Interesting. I find myself doing a lot more hunting for stuff in Chrome. Firefox functionality seems to be just there where I need it. At least, after I configure a couple of buttons back into play, and turn off a toolbar or so.

      Except the status bar. They're freaking me out with making it go away, then bringing it back only it's broken, etc. But there's a 3rd-party status-bar plugin that makes it behave the old way. I forget the name or I'd plug it here.

    9. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From the article:

      The new Chrome version is significantly faster in some respects (a 66 percent improvement in JavaScript performance on Google's own V8 benchmark suite)

      Is that the speed you're looking for?

    10. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by AbRASiON · · Score: 1

      Not when it looks the way it does, nope - it's not the speed I was looking for.

    11. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by jrcamp · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Please explain why tabs on top are "ridiculous".

      Also, it appears the only reason you think the Chrome UI is inferior to Firefox's is because you're used to Firefox. And you know what, it's perfectly reasonable to say "I stay with Firefox because I'm used to the UI". But to say you don't use Chrome because it's not Firefox is patently ridiculous.

    12. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by Lord+Kano · · Score: 0

      Slick and to the point. That doesn't mean that I am interested in using it.

      Something else that's slick and to the point? My cock. Let's hear you sing its praises.

      Chrome's UI is terrible. It's a pillow case full of doorknobs, it doesn't matter in the least if it's the fastest pillow case full of doorknobs.

      LK

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    13. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by Lord+Kano · · Score: 0

      Where "slick and to the point" means "hide things that are useful for some, but most don't care about, by default". And clunky means "show things that most don't care about, but are useful for some, by default".

      It's not a matter of defaults, it's a matter of possibilities. It's not possible to have a menu bar in Chrome. A standard components of applications for no less than 25 years and those pretentious cocks unilaterally decide to leave it out.

      I really couldn't care less what happens with Chrome.

      LK

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    14. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by buchner.johannes · · Score: 0

      Except the status bar. They're freaking me out with making it go away, then bringing it back only it's broken, etc.

      You are using a beta version. You don't get to complain.

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    15. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by ProfessionalCookie · · Score: 1

      The back button is in the top left.

    16. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by ProfessionalCookie · · Score: 1

      Chrome's UI is a pillowcase with all the doorknobs removed. It is great.

    17. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by ynp7 · · Score: 1

      Why do you need a menu bar in a web browser? Just because you're used to it wasting your screen real estate? The first thing I do with a new Firefox install is move the address and search bars into the menu bar and edit the menus down to a single entry with the very, very few menu options I will ever need. Chrome has just taken this extra work out of the equation and put those options under a button.

    18. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always wondered why people use any browser other than Firefox, especially because I use its super awesome Live Feed bookmarks toolbar. No need to load any page, take a snippet, nothing. Starting from my blank home page, I can go to any article at any site I follow with a single click, judging by its Title. Anybody know such a thing with chrome? or opera?

    19. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody said he is choosing brand names over what's under the hood. Tabs on top is a design decision taken up by a minority of browsers comprised of just Chrome*. Think of it like how we complained of the Office 2007 ribbon (don't think particular details as much as the boldness of the change). It will be less "ridiculous" if it gets adopted by the rest of the top 5: Opera, Safari and a 10+ version of IE, since it's looking tab-normal at the moment.

      Chrom(ium|e) vs. Firefox is the only browser war that matters due to their tech, cross-platform, open nature on this forum. And Slashdot is THE ONE tech forum where you can't assume that what a poster omitted means the person was a noob who didn't already try it.
      For now, think of the issue like "plain old tabbed browsing's infancy"... nobody is laughing at Opera now, but that nearly took 10 years of mostly apathy and scorn. As long as there is browser choice for the top 5, people can just vote with their feet^W package managers.

      * A Firefox RC that isn't gold yet is only as valid as a weighing opinions on the similarly completed IE9 that does lack the toptabs.

    20. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by jez9999 · · Score: 1

      They're freaking me out with making it go away, then bringing it back only it's broken, etc.

      Agreed that taking it away sucked, but what is it about the new style that is 'broken'? I'm using FF4 beta 12 now and it seems to be working as intended - popping up for loading status messages or URLs when I hover over links.

      And yeah, give me a 'clunky' (read: functional) UI any day over minimalist Chrome. The first thing I do with FF4 is configure large icons mode with icons and text, and add a bunch of buttons back in. And install my FF3 theme because the default FF4 theme seems dull and horrible to me.

    21. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by Max_W · · Score: 1

      Me too. I like Firefox UI and I do not like Chrome and IE UIs.

      I also do not like that I cannot add an SSL (https://) certificate exception at Chrome and IE.

      How can I use a browser for local development, if I cannot add an SSL certificate exception? Even for https://localhost/ .

      I hope Google dismiss Chrome UI designers and create a normal convenient browser, where I do not have to search for 20 minutes a menu item.

      I guarantee that with the present UI Chrome will never get a considerable market share.

    22. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by AbRASiON · · Score: 0

      I certainly will.

      It's called Windows standard user interface guidelines and I'm not even a Microsoft parrot.
      The top bar is for describing the name of the application and conveying what files it has open example "Microsoft Word - Chrome is a douchebag browser.doc"
      I find it a huge, stupid disconnect between the CONTENTS of my browser window and the tab identifying said contents, being 2 inches higher up the top, past all the menu and address bars?
      The tabs should be next to the Window of information they are displaying.

      When you pull open a drawer in a filing cabinet, do all the labels for the contents of each file, magically hover 3" above the folder, with shit inbetween for you to read? - no, they don't and nor should my web browser.
      Breaking standards is bad - and stupid, until it's fixed, I won't be using it.

    23. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "it'll at least remain the speed it is now"

      Is that, er, supposed to be a positive thing?

    24. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by kangsterizer · · Score: 1

      One point is that it's not consistent with the rest of the OS UIs. On the other hand, I do like tabs on top ;-)

    25. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by Lord+Kano · · Score: 0

      Funny, the first thing I do is make sure that my browser has a menu bar. When it was turned off by default in Opera, I turned it back on. I spent 20 minutes or so looking for the setting to turn it back on in Chrome. When I realized that it was impossible, I uninstalled that pillowcase full of doorknobs.

      LK

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    26. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait till he sees Firefox 4!

    27. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by balbus000 · · Score: 1

      In Chrome: Wrench -> Options. Start typing certificate in the search bar, click "Manage Certificates".

    28. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by Mongoose+Disciple · · Score: 1

      Of course you get to complain.

      Otherwise Google would just leave everything in Beta for 10 versions so you could never complain. Oh, wait...

      If it's done enough to release to the world and to try to gain market share for, it's done enough to bitch about.

    29. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by Bertie · · Score: 1

      To move the window, if you're on a Mac. The grabbable area in a Chrome window is tiny, and quite often you'll end up hiding it by accident. It's mighty annoying and I'd gladly give up a few pixels for a proper bar that works like everything else.

    30. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by blair1q · · Score: 1

      In b12 it pops up into the viewable area for the webpage, even if the status bar is there. That's annoying and annoying (especially in the M$-alternative world) is the same as broken. It should use the otherwise dead space in the status bar if the status bar is visible.

    31. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

      I have more karma than you have modpoints, Fanboy!

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    32. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by williamfrench4 · · Score: 1

      Menu bars are convenient and they have been standard for a long time. On a big screen it's a worthwhile use of space. I would much prefer to have one, and the fact that no extension provides it is a definite shortcoming in the Chrome extension API.

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    33. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The thing is, the great majority of desktop apps have a certain layout: Title bar, menu bar (possibly hidden), toolbar (or ribbon, most recently), then working area. And thus, you become trained to just ignore the topmost bit of the screen (esp. if you run stuff maximized). And now Chrome places tabs right where you Are Not Looking. Which is ridiculously annoying. Plus, stuff right next to the screen edge has a tendency to get lost from your eyesight (even if it's right there, yes).
      Also: Menu at the right. WTF. We read left to right! There's a REASON why the icon (which doubles as window menu) and similar are always at the left!

    34. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by StuffMaster · · Score: 1

      I said the same thing when Firefox came out, and I still do. Seamonkey FTW.

    35. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by AbRASiON · · Score: 1

      Any moderators want to fix up this post which the chrome zealots are continuing to moderate down?
      Thanks guys.

    36. Re:As long as they stick with that UI by ynp7 · · Score: 1

      How is it convenient? The number of useful functions in the menu bars of other browsers is tiny. In Chrome these functions have all been moved to the tools icon and the rest have been removed because nobody uses them. This uselessness makes it an worthless waste of space on any size screen.

      Just because something is standard, even if it has been for a long time, does not make it good. Be honest now, how many menu functions do you _ever_ use? Not enough to fill up more than one menu, I guarantee it.

      It's the 21st century, welcome to it.

  11. Amazing JavaScript performance by PickyH3D · · Score: 1

    Considering that version 8 apparently increased JavaScript performance by 100% over version 7, version 9 increased it by 50% over version version 8 and now version 10 increased it 66% over version 9, I cannot help but wonder when JavaScript performance will become more maxed out.

    Obviously not all JavaScript performance tests are created equally, but their gains are quite impressive nonetheless. Wonder what will happen if when they start using the GPU like IE9?

    1. Re:Amazing JavaScript performance by Jugalator · · Score: 1

      IE 9 uses the GPU for hardware accelerated graphics, not Javascript.

      Also, Chrome 10 already does hardware accelerated features. New for this release is GPU accelerated video, but accelerated compositing is in since earlier.

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    2. Re:Amazing JavaScript performance by blair1q · · Score: 1

      It sounds like they're testing lots of features, a few of which are horrendously slow, and fixing the slowest ones each time. So you could see a continuous string of 30-70% improvements in speed, until all of the features run at the same speed.

  12. Disabling my extensions? by vlueboy · · Score: 1

    Improved security with malware reporting and disabling outdated plug-ins by default

    I've had a grudge on Google due to their plugin status quo, because I've been burned with firefox and now prefer to update plugins manually. Firefox build numbers change little, and plugins can last through a point-zero-point-one update with no problem. Point one changes break them more.

    Chrome updates by full one versions every few months and gives me little choice because their extension model is a lot newer and lacking the community behind it we have in the moz extensions portal. Just the other day an extension was saying that it was disabled because its auto-updated version wanted upgraded [snooping?] privileges. I didn't bother; extension privileges changing randomly is the other problem that Firefox doesn't experience.

    For example, IIRC extensions like Google adblock and Readability want my web HISTORY and 2 or 3 other seemingly unrelated things in order to complete the install. Granularity of the privilege ring API so that programmers can give us X service is quoted as the problem. Then I find another extension* that wants nothing and gives me the same results without spying. I'd like to see a link detailing all the privileges and whether history is really linked to hiding page elements.

    I've disabled Chrome updates altogether after 8.0 on Windows XP, but extensions seem to continue to auto-update and get disabled pending my um, "relicensing" approval. Is there a way to manually manage extensions in Chrome other than just turning them on or off? Can I block privileges by doing some about:config-style hacks to test if the plugin really needs them?

    *except for Chrome adblock which has no other substitutes that I know of

    1. Re:Disabling my extensions? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You realize the extensions are written in JavaScript. Find the extension folder and spend 2 minutes reading the source code.

    2. Re:Disabling my extensions? by Shikaku · · Score: 1

      You realize the extensions are written in JavaScript. Find the extension folder and spend 2+ hours reading the source code.

      Fixed and emphasis mine. Code auditing, even for a small plugin, takes hours and sometimes even days, months, years.

    3. Re:Disabling my extensions? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Extensions aren't plugins, and 9 out of 10 are < 2k LOC. I can't even think off hand of a commonly useful but innately complex extension. So no, most really do take 2 minutes.

    4. Re:Disabling my extensions? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Check the about:flags page, their used to be an option in there but I'm not seeing it on the latest Dev build.

      extension privileges changing randomly is the other problem that Firefox doesn't experience.

      Where can you view what privileges an extension has in FF?

    5. Re:Disabling my extensions? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...or decades or centuries or dinosaurs!

  13. Migration guide by vlm · · Score: 1

    Someone needs to write a migration guide.

    Starting at FF with adblock plus, firebug, flashblock, ghostery, noscript, RIP remove it permanently, view dependencies, and xmarks.

    Ending at google chrome with ....

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    1. Re:Migration guide by blair1q · · Score: 1

      with...well...nothing.

      Cuz you can't get there from here.

      FF FTW.

    2. Re:Migration guide by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

      don't bother, something about the chrome plugin infrastructure means plugin blocking can only operate at the page level, either allow or deny all plugins on a page, unlike firefox's noscript which can enable/disable per source domain so you can use a site's scripted navigation without enabling scripts from embedded ads which are more likely to be annoying and more likely to be infected.

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    3. Re:Migration guide by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not true anymore. Adblock Plus for Chrome now is virtually indistinguishable from Firefox's and has been for some time.

    4. Re:Migration guide by Funnnny · · Score: 1

      Chrome has Adblock; firebug and flashblock(or plugin block) built-in or you can get other alternative from web store; xmarks, Noscripts has something like NotScripts, but I don't find any reason to use it.

    5. Re:Migration guide by afidel · · Score: 1

      Yeah since version 8 in the fall.

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    6. Re:Migration guide by tronbradia · · Score: 1
      • Adblock exists for chrome.
      • Firebug is actually not as good as the built-in Chrome/Safari (Webkit) developer's tools.
      • Flashblock equivalents work fine in Chrome, google flash block chrome.
      • NoScript can't be ported, at least not with whitelists
      • RIP I think not quite all functionality can be ported but there are mostly working equivalents.
      • View dependencies: see webkit development tools, under Resources.
      • xmarks is out for Chrome.

      I should add that the only plugin I really care about, Vimperator, cannot be ported to Chrome (Chrome doesn't allow the level of control necessary for a full port), so for that reason only I'm still using Firefox (okay, Noscript is nice too and I even have a noscript plugin for vimperator).

    7. Re:Migration guide by Vezquex · · Score: 1

      Vimium, dude.

    8. Re:Migration guide by tronbradia · · Score: 1

      Vimium really sucks. It has almost no features. It cannot take over your whole browser like vimperator/pentadactyl. It doesn't even work on the new tab page, so it's worthless as an alternative interface. And I'm told that that last point is basically baked into Chrome, extensions basically just can't work on the newtab page. So unless someone forks Chrome and replaces its whole UI with a vim clone, there's no way around this.

  14. If only flash just crashed by goombah99 · · Score: 2

    If flash would just crash then sandboxing would at least solve that. But instead it happily gobbles your CPU with runaway rendering crap. The only limit on it now is it is single threaded. Not looking forward to multi-cpu flash.

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    1. Re:If only flash just crashed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It solves that too to some extent.

      This is on a 1050Mhz Athlon XP, so not exactly a modern machine - when the browser starts to lag and flash is the suspect, just hit shift+esc and kill the Flash plugin (should be second to bottom on the list, assuming you're using the official GPU drivers. If not, it'll be the bottom entry). You get a yellow bar appear at the top of any tabs that flash was running in, but the rest of the content is unaffected and none of the tabs crash. Restarting flash for a specific tab is as easy as refreshing that tab.

    2. Re:If only flash just crashed by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      Architecturally, pretty much everything that one would need is in place, if the underlying OS supports it....

      At least on Windows platforms, the Flash plugin process shows up as "Chrome.exe", which is annoying; but you can get the real PID from Chrome's internal task manager and identify the process that way. Since it is a distinct process, it can be assigned a priority level of its own, distinct from that of Chrome. Re-nicing the process would presumably have the same effect on *nix systems, though I've not tried the flash plugin with Chrome there.

      If one's concern is battery life/fan noise/heat, you'd need a hard limit, not just a priority(since priority keeps flash from hogging CPU time; but not from causing your system's otherwise idle CPU to wake up and start thrashing at maximum operating frequency...) On linux you'd use cpulimit, my understanding is that Windows has support starting from Vista on; but only per-SID, not per PID.

      Between those, though, Chrome would have to just slightly change how it invokes the Flash plugin, or automatically run a couple of commands against it afterwards, to control the priority and/or absolute CPU time of Flash. I don't think that they've done so, so you would presently have to do this manually, or hack up an extension to do it; but it certainly seems doable enough.

      Unfortunately, Flash remains a single process even for multiple distinct embedded objects, so you can't nice the banner ads into a smoking crater without also slowing your addictive flash game of choice to a crawl. Architecturally, that kind of sucks; but luckily ad-blocking can take care of most of the spurious flash...

  15. Re:Version numbers by PickyH3D · · Score: 1

    It will be higher than version 20 in two years because they are increasing their release pace. Let's assume they slow down to their desired six week release pace, then that's almost 8 versions in a single year.

    I agree with the sentiment that version numbers are mostly meaningless, but I have grown accustom to only bumping the major numbers on major feature releases. Improving the JavaScript engine to the degree that they have in the past few releases is impressive, but they are the same effort realized over a short span of time.

    Now, I do not mind getting frequent releases, but the version number is a bit of a nuisance. However, I do think that has to do with being a developer rather than being a user (as I know non-developers do not even notice). I also thought that was the purpose of their Courgette project was to increase the pace of updates sent to us, making major releases largely less relevant to begin with, except when major new feature releases made it useful (larger code base changes more aligned with "major" releases).

  16. Its cool that its fast... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but still useless with out a sidebar like Firefox. Been waiting for years for them to add it, and asked friends that work at google why something so simple is missing, nobody has a good answer.

    1. Re:Its cool that its fast... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure the dozens of you who care can use Firefox and quit whinging, right?

    2. Re:Its cool that its fast... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure the dozens of you who care can use Firefox and quit whinging, right?

      I will keep asking for this basic feature until its there so I can switch over to it. They got plenty of engineers to do this task its about 3 days with testing worst case. It's really fucking sad that they haven't added it.

    3. Re:Its cool that its fast... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They got plenty of engineers to do this task its about 3 days with testing worst case

      Since you've already done an analysis of the time required why don't you do it yourself? The code is already available. Have at it.

  17. Nothing to do with Pwn2Own. At all. No siree ;) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Chrome 10 also addresses 23 security vulnerabilities in the WebKit-based browser (easily more than Google has ever fixed before): 15 rated as High, three rated as Medium, and five rated as Low."

    pwn2own: 9th, 10th, and 11th of March, 2011

  18. 'debt', weaponry, gone =+- the wink of an eye? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    math?, physics?, creators, all concur. probably goes on from there? yet to spot the 'last' digit.

  19. Just in time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Yesterday I was annoyed that the options page for Chrome wouldn't fit on my netbook's screen. Today I upgrade to Chrome 10 to discover that they made the options screen into a webpage. Google is awesome.

  20. Re:Version numbers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Somehow I imagine if Google paid you $100 for free you'd find a way to criticize them. "But that money was earned under an illegal monopoly; I deserve it more than they do!"

  21. Hurray! 10 by fermion · · Score: 1
    Now it is a stable mature product. Twice as good as Safari 5. Much better than IE 8. Not quite as good as Opera 11. And Firefox should hang it's neck in shame for barely reaching 4.

    When the "navigational services" spyware is off by default, when third party cookie rejection a feature that is no longer hidden, and when Flashblock is installed by default, let me know. Otherwise it is just another tool for Google to track me.

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    1. Re:Hurray! 10 by AntEater · · Score: 1

      Now it is a stable mature product. Twice as good as Safari 5. Much better than IE 8. Not quite as good as Opera 11. And Firefox should hang it's neck in shame for barely reaching 4.

      Bah! That's nothing. I browse using Emacs and that's on version 23.

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    2. Re:Hurray! 10 by ynp7 · · Score: 1

      "Ignore exceptions and block third-party cookies from being set" It's right there in the "Cookies" section of the settings page. If you're having trouble finding it type "cookies" into the settings search box. How is that hidden?

    3. Re:Hurray! 10 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So they give you an all or none solution, recommending that all data be accepted. Unlike legitimate browsers like firefox, there is no 'ask me if I want to accept cookies'. We expect such evil behavior from Apple or MS, but not Google.

  22. A stable version of Chrome -- that's different! by unil_1005 · · Score: 1

    I gave up using it a long time ago since it was such a mess.
    Maybe it's better now. It still lacks most of the stuff & add-ons that FF has which make it such a good web programming/debugging tool.
    Most lacking feature in Chrome: multi-row tabs.

    1. Re:A stable version of Chrome -- that's different! by prockcore · · Score: 2

      It doesn't need addons to be good at web programming/debugging. The built in inspector and javascript debugger is better than firebug.

  23. Re:Version numbers by blair1q · · Score: 1

    In another two years, is it going to be at version 20?

    "Google Chrome Vista."

  24. Commandline parameters exist for cache location by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    chrome.exe -disk-cache-dir="Z:\CTmp" --disk-cache-size=40000000 --user-data-dir="Z:\CTmp"

    The "-disk-cache-dir" &/or -user-data-dir are PROBABLY going to be of interest to you... they were to me @ least!

    (Why? Because I move ALL of my webbrowser programs' caches & userdata to my SSD (Gigabyte IRAM, true SSD 4gb, non-FLASH Ram based (DDR-2) - it's very, Very, VERY F A S T, on both reads & writes is why...)

    APK

    P.S.=> Hope that helps some... but, I can tell you, right now, there are LOADS more commandline switches for Google Chrome, & those I put up may not be the ONLY ones you'd be interested in... You can "GOOGLE" for more though! apk

  25. Booksmarks by Nukedoom · · Score: 1

    Now how about we get you fellas a good ass bookmarks manager, huh? Wouldn't that just be dandy?

    That's all Google Chrome needs for me now.

    1. Re:Booksmarks by amicusNYCL · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Now how about we get you fellas a good ass bookmarks manager, huh?

      You're having problems managing your ass bookmarks, are you?

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    2. Re:Booksmarks by Nukedoom · · Score: 1

      My browser gets lots of ass annnnnnd I like to bookmark them all.

  26. I have, for MONTHS now, & they work... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2028366&cid=35424874

    APK

    P.S.=> And, yes, you're correct: I used to do the same with std. mechanical HDD's too, before I was into RamDrives (in software) or SSD's (ramdisk hardware), etc. ...

    "Anything to unburden the MAIN '"C:' drive", in other words (I also place my pagefile.sys, logging from apps & the OS, %temp% ops, & %comspec% + Print Spooler locations onto it)... apk

    1. Re:I have, for MONTHS now, & they work... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why don't you take your 30 gigabyte /etc/hosts file and shove it up your ass?

  27. My browser goes to 11! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow it must be better than IE because IE is only 9 and this one is 10!

    MY BROWSER GOES TO 11!

  28. No thanks! by martin-boundary · · Score: 1

    No thanks! I'm gonna wait until the beta version comes out.

  29. Exactly, & for tasks that do WRITES? NOT GOOD! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "It's not about lifetime concerns... some SSDs have a slow write time which can be very apparent in normal everyday operation. Granted, I only noticed it when I was fooling around and disabled write caching (platters were also slow, but SSD plain locks the PC for the entire write operation it seems...)" - by nschubach (922175) on Tuesday March 08, @05:28PM (#35424230)

    Exactly... that's the 1 area that is not "the greatest" on SSD's based on FLASH ram, which is why I opted for a Gigabyte IRAM instead (4gb DDR-2 RAM)... it's good for write activity too!

    I place these things onto it (most are read/write in nature):

    1.) Pagefile.sys
    2.) %temp% & %tmp% ops (temp environment vars)
    3.) %comspec% (command processor cmd.exe)
    4.) OS logging (event logs, yes, they are movable)
    5.) Application logging (if the app logs, usually movable)
    6.) Print Spooler location
    7.) WebBrowser caches (Opera11, IE9, MineField FF, Chrome)

    APK

    P.S.=> In the early to mid 1990's, I used to move ALL of that list above's items off of the main C: drive (usual driveletter for the OS & programs bearing HDD), & onto other HDD's (especially when IDE/EIDE circuitry got "smart enough" to handle things independently, per channel)...

    Then, later to software-based RamDrives, as they had less latency than std. mechanical HDD's do!

    Then, to a CENATEK RocketDrive (PCI 2.2 bus based SSD, 4gb PC-133 SDRAM)...

    And lastly/lately, to an even F A S T E R SSD unit, the Gigabyte IRAM (SATA 150 bus, 4gb DDR-2 RAM)... it works! apk

  30. I had gone back to Safari... by rsborg · · Score: 1

    Since Chrome's flash plugin didn't have the goodies that Flash 10.2 gave (really reduced my CPU usage on web video sites, made 1080p flash video usable).
    Does Chrome 10 for Mac include the latest Flash hardware acceleration for OSX?

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    1. Re:I had gone back to Safari... by RedK · · Score: 1

      Why don't you type about:plugins in a Chrome window and tell us ? (Btw, yes, it has 10.2).

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    2. Re:I had gone back to Safari... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Since Chrome's flash plugin didn't have the goodies that Flash 10.2 gave (really reduced my CPU usage on web video sites, made 1080p flash video usable).
      Does Chrome 10 for Mac include the latest Flash hardware acceleration for OSX?

      You can easily disable Chrome's built-in Flash on OS X - then Chrome will use the same install as all your other browsers.

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    3. Re:I had gone back to Safari... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why don't you type about:plugins in a Chrome window and tell us ? (Btw, yes, it has 10.2).

      This is on Ubuntu 10.10, Chrome 10.0.648.127
      Flash (2 files) - Version: 10.2.154
      Shockwave Flash 10.2 r154

  31. Smooth by cracauer · · Score: 1

    [firefox user's voice] ... but my extensions didn't break. You sure this is a real upgrade?

  32. Ther version number must = the user base by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Someone looked at the source code - better increment the version.

  33. Not stable at all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I sure as shit wouldn't call it stable, it crashes on me 3 to 4 times a day.

  34. Official Google Post; encrypted password store? by trawg · · Score: 1

    For those that want to skip the blogspam, the official Google post with a bunch of information is here.

    I was excited at first because it looked like it included a feature I've wanted for ages - Firefox-esque 'master password' for your local password store, but it looks like it's just a locally stored custom passphrase for encrypting your passwords if you're syncing them to Google's online service - more info.

    As I have so much invested in my saved online passwords I've been reluctant to make the permanent switch to Chrome for this reason - in the event my laptop gets lost/stolen I don't like the idea of having a huge amount of online stuff readily accessible in my browser. There's an interesting article here that provides some info on how it encrypts locally saved passwords (using a Windows API that encrypts based on your current Windows user + login; how it works on Linux I'm not sure), but I still would feel more comfortable with another 'master password' layer on top of that!

    1. Re:Official Google Post; encrypted password store? by trawg · · Score: 1

      Shit! Post wrong link to the official Google post; it's actually http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/03/speedier-simpler-and-safer-chromes.html

  35. Native Client by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is no mention if Native Client will be in there, and will be on by default, or at least optionally without the warning message that you are using an unsupported and dangerous function....

  36. *StiII* Can't Override Font Settings by LiSrt · · Score: 1

    UnIike firefox, it's not possibIe to override a website's font settings, this means l'm stuck with whatever idiotic decision the designers chose, which sometimes feeIs like the bad old days of geocities.

    ln some circumstances, this means it's not possibIe to teII an upper-case 'I' from a Iower-case 'l'.

    (Try viewing this post in firefox and chrome to see what l mean.)

    1. Re:*StiII* Can't Override Font Settings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I and l look exactly the same in both FF4 and Chrome10.

  37. Re:Exactly, & for tasks that do WRITES? NOT GO by Coriolis · · Score: 1

    Eh? You put Pagefile.sys, a file containing memory pages that are not currently needed in live RAM, back into RAM? Unless you are doing a lot of paging, you'll save milliseconds at best. If you're doing that much paging, surely more RAM is a better idea? I'm curious what the he'll you're using your machine for :)

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  38. Where is WebGL? by Noe2097 · · Score: 1

    Be aware that some people are encountering difficulties with chrome 10 when it comes to webGL. It is disabled by default and there does not seem to be a magic command line switch to enable it.

  39. Spying, anyone? by arisvega · · Score: 1

    Chrome is the epitomy of browsers spying on you. Why the hell do you people like it so much?

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    1. Re:Spying, anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Citation needed. What is the difference in what is tracked between Chrome and Firefox?

  40. Yes, into RAM, but DEDICATED ram (see inside) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Eh? You put Pagefile.sys, a file containing memory pages that are not currently needed in live RAM, back into RAM?" - by Coriolis (110923) on Wednesday March 09, @05:59AM (#35427964)

    Yes, but NOT into SYSTEM RAM... but rather, onto a drive that is nothing but DDR2-RAM chips acting as an "SSD".

    APK

    P.S.=> You might want to look up what a GIGABYTE IRAM is, & what it looks like... it'd help you understand this isn't a software-based RamDrive, but something much like today's SSD's are, except NOT based on slower write cycles like you see on FLASH RAM based SSD's...

    (Though supposedly, Intel &/or OCZ (sandforce controller) have 'faster write cycle' based FLASH units than they used to be, now? Their write speed, I'd wager @ least, is still slower than their read speeds & longevity is a KNOWN "issue" with FLASH based SSD's too)... apk

  41. Sounds "kinky", not interested (no thanks) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject-line above...

    "Why don't you take your 30 gigabyte /etc/hosts file and shove it up your ass?" - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 08, @08:13PM (#35425728)

    Sounds "kinky", but no: I am NOT interested in your "StRaNgE" practices &/or habits!

    APK

    P.S.=> Man! Talk about being a TRULY anonymous "coward"... another anonymous troll! apk

  42. As a Mac user... by teh+kurisu · · Score: 1

    Chrome on the Mac used to have a nice, native-looking preferences dialog. The move to an in-tab preferences menu is a move away from native components, which I regard as a backward step. The lack of native components was one of the reasons I stopped using Opera.

    Also, when laying out the window bar this time round, Google seem to have copied what Apple did with the Mac App Store and suspended the 'traffic light' buttons in the middle of the bar rather than at the top. It's hideous, and I hope it's not turning into a trend.

  43. No offense to google in particular... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...but haven't we learned to always put the word "stable" in quotes?

  44. Mod Parent Up! by LoverOfJoy · · Score: 1

    Mod parent up. This is informative.

  45. Chrome just got less secure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At least on Mac, chrome just took a seriously MAJOR nosedive in security. Serious enough that I am switching back to firefox until they fix this problem.

    Chrome on Mac stores saved web passwords in Mac's Keychain - which should be perfectly fine. To view the plaintext password of a saved web password in previous versions of chrome, you had to open up Mac's Keychain Access app, select the account, and check the "show password" checkbox - which then requires you to enter your Mac password to reveal the password. You have to do this every time, even if you just uncheck the box then recheck it. Sounds perfect, right?

    Not anymore. The new settings tab now allows you to show the plaintext version of any web password, without having to enter your Mac password or a master password like firefox offers. Normally you try not to walk away from your computer without locking it first. But for that odd time when you forget, a coworker has instant access to read all your web passwords.

    Google, you've just lost a user due to your lack of concern for security. You should know better than to release pure garbage like this.