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Prepare For Massive Wave of Earthquake Scams

wiredmikey sends this quote from Security Week: "Today's tragic events of the 8.9 magnitude earthquake and resulting tsunami, as sad as it is, is a dream for scammers and fraudsters around the world. Tragic events are always something scammers use to their advantage, helping them prey on and exploit innocent victims. Scams are already spreading across Facebook, which started in a matter of minutes after the news broke of the earthquake in Japan. As I write this, scammers are hard at work, registering new domains and cranking out templates for their fake donation sites. This will be followed with massive volumes of email spam, Tweets through Twitter, and Facebook posts, as scammers gear up to solicit donations from around the world." As coverage of the earthquake and resulting tsunami has proceeded, collections of videos and pictures are showing the extent of the devastation. The NY Times makes the excellent point that things could have been much worse if not for building codes and quake-resistant engineering. A state of emergency was declared at one of Japan's nuclear plants, after the earthquake caused cooling problems at one of the reactors. No radiation leakage has been reported, and the US Air Force has helped by delivering coolant by air.

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  1. Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The fact that people would take advantage of the disaster and misery at the cost of thousands of people just disgusts me. It happened with Katrina, it happened with Haiti, and I guess they're gearing up for this disaster. You fuckers, I hope you rot in hell.

    1. Re:Disgusting by Nursie · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Seriously.

      Scamming is nasty business at the best of times, but (imagining I were a scammer) I could see people in places like Nigeria justifying it to themselves as getting their share from the rich west.

      But this is just out and out profiting from human misery and death.

    2. Re:Disgusting by 0racle · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't know what I find more disgusting, that these inevitable scams pop up or that I felt the need to send out a company wide email to remind people that the Red Cross and such doesn't send out grammatically incorrect bulk email requesting donations at donations@reddcroos.ru

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    3. Re:Disgusting by Tanktalus · · Score: 2

      Most of the major charities who deal with this are non-religious which is a world of difference away from atheist: we may disagree on theology, but we all agree that help is needed, and we want to be a part of it. And that has nothing to do with GP's point of wanting scum like this to burn in hell.

    4. Re:Disgusting by 0racle · · Score: 3, Interesting

      No. The Red Cross actually suggests that you donate often to keep their accounts ready to deal with a disaster at a moments notice instead of them having to wait for donations. So it's possible that money they received because of a flood of donations after, for instance, the earthquake in Haiti is being funneled into relief destined for Japan right now.

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  2. THIS is why we pay so much for our Military! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    A state of emergency was declared at one of Japan's nuclear plants, after the earthquake caused cooling problems at one of the reactors. No radiation leakage has been reported, and the US Air Force has helped by delivering coolant by air.

    This, right here, is why a well funded military is so needed!

    Because it's cheaper than paying for the aftermath of a godzilla attack!

    1. Re:THIS is why we pay so much for our Military! by Hadlock · · Score: 2

      The US military isn't allowed to operate inside of US borders, IIRC. This is what the National Guard and state millitas are for, which are largely separate from the budgets and congregational wartime budget extensions (Afghanistan, Iraq, etc) are passed for. Local forces receive very little of this extended funding, from what I understand.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Guard_of_the_United_States

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    2. Re:THIS is why we pay so much for our Military! by Cwix · · Score: 2

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

      The Act prohibits members of the Army, and Air Force, from exercising nominally state law enforcement, police, or peace officer powers that maintain "law and order" on non-federal property (states and their counties and municipal divisions) within the United States.

      The statute prohibits Army and Air Force personnel and units of the National Guard under federal authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within the United States, except where expressly authorized by the Constitution or Congress. The Navy, and Marine Corps are prohibited by Department of Defense Directive, not by the Act itself.[1][2] The Coast Guard, under the Department of Homeland Security, is exempt from the Act.

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    3. Re:THIS is why we pay so much for our Military! by camperdave · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The military has always been used for things other than killing people and breaking things up. Who do you thing built the roads in the Roman Empire, or built the castles dotting Europe, or that wall thingy in China. Even in our times, the Army corps of Engineers is constantly being called upon to drain swamps, dredge canals, or put up bridges.

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  3. White cars by Andy+Smith · · Score: 5, Funny

    It appears that one way to improve your chance of survival in a tsunami is to not have a white car.
    http://i.imgur.com/ddHiq.jpg

    1. Re:White cars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not really. The relevant video also shows plenty of black, grey, green, and blue cars being washed away too. And boats!

  4. Always do your research before donating by sandytaru · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not just to charities created because of tragedies, but to any charity at all. Websites such as Charity Watchdog (http://www.charitywatch.org/) exist to allow you to confirm how legit any given organization is. (When in doubt, just throw ten bucks at Red Cross International or Doctors Without Borders.)

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  5. On Shakey Ground by Mirey · · Score: 2

    "Prepare For Massive Wave"

    Don't you think it's a bit soon to be making puns?

  6. It didn't help last time. by Seumas · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Listen, people are idiots and fools are easily parted with their money. More, people have a short attention span and never follow up on the results.

    People were suckered into the whole Haiti thing last year. Morons "texting" cash to charities and schiesters like Bill Clinton and George Bush encouraging people to "just send us your cash". And in the end? No accountability. I don't even need to go into the troubles with the Red Cross and the Clinton Bush Haiti Fund, which raised hundreds of millions of dollars, can't seem to account for where all that money went to. Last I recall, Clinton was present to see the handing over of three million bucks or some similarly ridiculously low number.

    You had global donations from governments promised in the billions (at least five billion, I believe). You had moron celebrities holding telethons and telling you that you should give your cash.

    And idiots gave their cash. But they never looked in on what was going on. Why should they? I texted my $10 to some place, so I'm a good person now! I don't need to figure out whatever happened after that!

    Meanwhile, it's a year later and we're told that people are still living in tents and everyone is dying of dysentery or whatever.

    Of course, Japan is less likely to be prone to this kind of problem, I think. The only concern there will be with fake charities trying to scam you out of donations through fake websites and other services. And that's what this article was talking about, to begin with. The problem in Haiti was different, in that they're not the power that is Japan. They're fucking Haiti. And actual real organizations simply behaved criminally after extorting donations from you.

    1. Re:It didn't help last time. by Bobfrankly1 · · Score: 2

      Listen, people are idiots and fools are easily parted with their money. More, people have a short attention span and never follow up on the results.

      It's quite true actually, I didn't even read past this line...

    2. Re:It didn't help last time. by Relayman · · Score: 2

      You were on the right track but then went away from your point. Without naming names, it is awfully hard separating the scams from the "legitimate" charities that actually don't spend the money you donate on the crisis but use it for overhead and salaries. Just look at how much some of these main-stream charities spend on advertising (using your dollars, of course). You think all that advertising is free? Nope, they pay for it just so that they can get your name, address, phone and e-mail address. That way, they can hit you up again when the next disaster rolls around.

      Do what I do, and I'm doing it today: Keep your money in your wallet and donate blood instead. I have a high platelet count, so I can donate three units of platelets in less than 80 minutes. I know it's going to a good cause and it's something that money can't buy; by law, blood from paid donors can't be used for transfusions.

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  7. Re:arguably by Leafheart · · Score: 5, Informative

    what technology has japan used or is japan using thats saved so many lives?

    Japan has an impressive Earthquake alert system. They picked the shaking 1 minute before it main force hit. That gave time for most of the people to evacute the buildings as needed. Same goes for the Tsunami. Where they didn't have time to react though, like in Sendai, which was absurdly close to the epicenter, the death tool was worst.

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  8. Help Prevent Disaster Scams by PPH · · Score: 5, Funny

    Give to the Organization for Scam Prevention Now!

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    1. Re:Help Prevent Disaster Scams by sconeu · · Score: 2

      I find your ideas intriguing and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

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  9. Re:arguably by natehoy · · Score: 2

    There's a significant difference between "number dead" and "number confirmed dead". The actual number who have died is unknown, so most outlets report the numbers that are known to be dead.

    That means that the number will (sadly) climb much higher. With 1,300 miles of shoreline affected by the tsunami, I expect we won't be talking in the hundreds for very long, unfortunately.

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  10. Where's the line? by hort_wort · · Score: 2

    So I'm just a bit in the gray on this issue. Where's the line drawn on what's morally acceptable with this? If I immediately run and sell all my Japanese stocks and instead buy into rice after seeing all the fields on tv being destroyed, does that mean I'm evil and taking advantage of this situation? I would still end up being in a financially better position as a result of a tragedy.

    1. Re:Where's the line? by h4rr4r · · Score: 2

      Where is the moral gray area?
      You are doing something that does not harm anyone as rice prices will go up no matter what you do.
      Taking money under the guise of charity and keeping it is theft by deception. That is both theft and theft of money that could have helped others.

  11. Re:Use known agents by Seumas · · Score: 2

    Sure, you should be compensated, but if you're in the "charity business", you would think you'd be a little more ethically inclined. How do you justify hundreds of thousands in salary for a position where you head a *charity*? I would say $500,000/yr is a bit extreme for the Red Cross and $1,000,000/yr is a bit extreme for the United Way. You aren't talking about providing salaries that make sure these people can focus on the job rather than living in a cardboard box. You're talking about paying them enough to be millionaires on charitable donations.

  12. Re:arguably by timeOday · · Score: 3, Informative
    It's not robotic rescue dogs, it's building codes that reduce the need for them in the first place.

    Compare to China recently where a less powerful quake sent brick buildings toppling onto and killing tens of thousands of people, including government buildings such as schoolhouses that collapsed and killed the children inside.

    Building codes are one of the areas where it's almost impossible to argue against the need for government regulation.

  13. Relax by droopus · · Score: 5, Funny

    No aid needed. The GOP has voted to send an emergency humanitarian shipment of tax cuts to the affected area.

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  14. Insurance policy exclusions will be the BIG SCAM by Bob_Who · · Score: 2

    Just like AIG mortgages, Katrina floods, So Cal wild fires, and America's heath plan, when its time for that insurance in times of disaster, suddenly you realize you don't really have the coverage required to restore your losses. Its kind of like most things when you pay in advance of receiving the goods.
    Lets just see if the insurance industry fell into the cracks, yet again, leaving flood victims "high and dry" in the low and wet. I bet that earthquake coverage just got washed away by all of that salt water. So it you gotta have boat insurance under that much water.

    "Its a Tsunami not an earthquake, Mr. Miagi....so sorry" ....

    All of those disaster policies only sold you a false sense of security, in exchange for years of cash..... Who gets to break their legs if they don't pay...another act of God, or the Yakuza?

  15. Re:Use known agents by kevinNCSU · · Score: 2

    At the end of the day it's about using the money to make the best difference. If paying 100k a year to put someone in that position organizing charities across the globe where a single decision could waste or make hundreds of thousands of dollars it might be worth it to have a high enough salary for that position that you attract someone who is extremely competent at making those organizational decisions and actions and thus gives you a net gain in efficiency. anyways, there's a lot of watchdog sites that show the overhead factor for different charities and they are usually fairly low. While the top person might be making a good bit you have to understand the breadth and scale of the responsibility they have and how terribly it could effect every level of the organization if they don't perform.

  16. Mod Parent UP!!!! by sconeu · · Score: 3

    It's not robotic rescue dogs, it's building codes that reduce the need for them in the first place.

    I live in SoCal. I tell my friends from other places that the safest place to be when an earthquake hits is "somewhere else", but if you can't be there, then SoCal (and NorCal, too) is one of the best places to be.

    Why? Because we know that the Big One is coming... someday... Our building codes are designed so that while the building might not be safe to occupy, it will stand long enough to let you get out. And the codes are under constant revision after every earthquake. Example, the '94 Northridge quake was a kind they hadn't seen or planned for. Codes got revised because of it.

    Both Los Angeles and St. Louis sit on top of major faults. Which city would you rather be in when a 7.5 quake hits?

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  17. Re:Red Cross is Legit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Please don't. 90999 may be legit, but we don't want to be teaching people to donate by sending off texts to random numbers. If you want to give to Red Cross, go to their website, it's much easier to see where the money is actually going there.

  18. I'll bite by srussia · · Score: 2

    Building codes are one of the areas where it's almost impossible to argue against the need for government regulation.

    I propose a building code that stipulates carbon nanotube framing and internal airbags, plus a municipal ordinance prohibiting tchotchkes weighing more than 2 kg. Surely that would save even more lives in the event of an 8.9 magnitude earthquake.

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  19. Air Force by bearoderse · · Score: 2

    I know its prob already been said and I am well aware I am a horrible person for saying this but does anyone else find it morbidly comical that the US Air Force is now flying over Japan to try and prevent a nuclear incident?

  20. Re:coolant huh? by DavidTC · · Score: 2

    That's because the Japanese are honorary white people, and not poor, so of course we'll help.

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  21. Re:coolant huh? by ShavedOrangutan · · Score: 3, Informative

    The governor of Louisiana declined requests by President Bush to have the National Guard enforce state laws, and didn't request any additional troops until 2 days after Katrina. The President does not have the authority to just send the military into a state.

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