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Nintendo 3DS Battery Is Quick To Die and Slow To Charge

An anonymous reader writes with this excerpt from the Opposable Thumbs blog: "The battery in the Nintendo 3DS is as bad as we had feared, and it's a major impediment to enjoying the system. ... With the screen at a reasonable brightness, 3D and wireless turned off when the game allowed it, and no sound, we were about to get to a little over 4.5 hours of playtime. If you like a brighter screen, keep 3D turned on, or if you have that speaker going, that time is only going to go down. ... Using the cradle whenever the system isn't being played is a habit you're going to want to pick up, especially with a charging time of around three and a half hours."

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  1. Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful by Shikaku · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Pick 2 for handhelds: Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful, large.

    1. Re:Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful by TheCRAIGGERS · · Score: 5, Funny

      Pick 2 for handhelds: Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful, large.

      Slim and large, please.

    2. Re:Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful by pushing-robot · · Score: 2

      And powerful and slow, if it's not too much to ask.

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    3. Re:Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful by Shikaku · · Score: 4, Funny

      Note to self, never try this again while trying to get first post. I failed forever =(

    4. Re:Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Don't worry, we meant what you knew.

    5. Re:Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful by jayme0227 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How about never try again for a first post?

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    6. Re:Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful by Shikaku · · Score: 3, Informative

      1. Guess who is logged on that checked AC and replied. I'll give you a hint, sigs don't display if you aren't logged in with cookies disabled.
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    7. Re:Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful by by+(1706743) · · Score: 2

      And powerful and slow, if it's not too much to ask.

      I know this was a humorous comment, but (at least by my definitions) slow and powerful aren't mutually exclusive. Running, say, PostgreSQL on a 486 is a very powerful tool -- but it might be painfully slow. Actually, I'd be curious to see the difference in speed between a modern computer running Excel and a 486 running PostgreSQL/MySQL working on a dataset of a million rows / dozen columns or so. Apples and oranges, but still...

      Of course, if you use a definition of "power" as "stuff per unit time," ("stuff" = "energy" for the standard definition, "computation ability" in this example), then powerful and slow do seem to be antonyms (assuming we agree on the definition of slow...).

    8. Re:Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful by Labcoat+Samurai · · Score: 2

      long lasting, powerful, large.

      But I regularly receive emails suggesting I can have all three of these things!

  2. Whoa... by Blues_39 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Game Gear flashback incoming.

    1. Re:Whoa... by pushing-robot · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not to mention the Lynx, the PSP... When will these companies ever learn that lean and cheap outsells powerful and expensive? They make the same mistakes over and over again, and Nintendo eats their lunch.

      I'm confident that Nintendo will steamroll over whoever makes this "3DS" thing.

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  3. Won't bother me personally. by JustAnotherIdiot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    4.5 hours is still about 4 times what I get on my laptop, and twice what I get on my PSP.
    Not to mention I'm a loser and have access to electrical outlets almost 24/7

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  4. Sad by llZENll · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You know kids are spoiled when they have a mobile gaming system that is 3D and think that 4.5 hours of battery is short! It's also a testament to Nintendo's games and system when 4.5 hours can be over before you know it. That is a long time. Seriously, if 4.5 hours of battery is the biggest complaint they have about this system I have no idea why this is front page news, the battery looks like you can just pop in a new one so what is the big deal?

    1. Re:Sad by TheCRAIGGERS · · Score: 2

      Nintendo handhelds have traditionally been great on battery life. Even the newer DS gets over 10 hours.

      So I don't think it's so much as complaining (ok, it is) but that people are used to Nintendo gear lasting through a long car ride / flight.

    2. Re:Sad by chispito · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't know about you, but I got alot more than 4.5 hours on my original game boy. And yes, I had the sound on and brightness maxed. Its not too much to expect an improvement in battery life with every iteration.

      We all had the brightness maxed out on our original Gameboys.

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    3. Re:Sad by chispito · · Score: 2

      You know kids are spoiled

      I think you know kids are spoiled when their parents buy them a $250 handhelds.

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    4. Re:Sad by SethThresher · · Score: 5, Insightful

      On top of that, this assumes that you have someone who would regularly sit down and play this 3DS, uninterrupted, for over 4 and a half hours. FOUR AND A HALF HOURS. For an adult like most of us here, at that point you're probably shirking some responsibility, not to mention eating, etc. For a teenager, when was the last time any teen had that much uninterrupted time free of homework, school, chores, sports, clubs, and all that crazy stuff? For a child, just for starters kids are advised to have, at a maximum, no more than 2 hours of screentime a day. And really, how many attentive and effective parents would allow their kid to veg out for that long? Sure, we have the irresponsible, the lazy, etc, but that's not what this is meant for. Yes, 4.5 hours is a heck of a lot shorter than the 12+ I get from my DS Lite with the brightness turned down and the WiFi off, but I'm not going to sit there and use it in one sitting. You will have outliers and extenuating circumstances, long car rides/flights included, but if you know you're going to be in a situation like that, you can probably plan for better than one form of entertainment for that long.

      Yes, Nintendo can try and engineer a fix for someone who wants to play gameboy for 6 hours straight, but should they? 4.5 is perfectly usable for normal use. Just get in the habit of plugging it in to charge when you're done playing.

    5. Re:Sad by _xeno_ · · Score: 2

      Possibly because four and a half hours is the best case scenario. That's playing without sound, without Wi-Fi, and without 3D.

      Actually, the article's really confusing on the "without 3D" bit since it says they played without 3D "when the game allowed it" - but I think that's an editing mistake, and the "when the game allowed it" refers only to Wi-Fi being off, but I'm not sure.

      In any case, if you turn on sound and turn on 3D - you know, like most people will probably do, given that the 3D is kind of the point - you get closer to three hours battery life.

      Which may not be exactly horrible, but it's not exactly good. That's actually worse than the PSP, which is somewhat notorious for horrible battery life.

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  5. Nintendo 3DS Battery by prakslash · · Score: 3, Insightful

    To be sure, it isn't the battery that is "bad".
    It is the same Li-ion rechargeable battery used in prior systems.
    It even has more capacity: 1300 mAh. This is about 50% more than the 850 mAh battery used in DSi and 30% more than the 1000mAh batteries used in DsiXL and DSLite.

    The problem, as the Republicans in the US often say, is spending. With the brighter screens necessary for 3D, wi-fi and better video and sound support, the thing will suck juice like a mutha.
    The other option for Nintendo would have been to tack on a laptop style battery which wouldn't work for a portable game system.

  6. Not bad for first in its class by jijacob · · Score: 3, Informative

    To be honest, that seems like a reasonable life considering what it is doing. For those that feel it is a deal-breaker, I'm sure there are options to extend the battery.

  7. Re:not that big a deal by WhirlwindMonk · · Score: 2

    Sounds great! Just tell me where I can go biking or running halfway through an international flight and I'll be golden!

  8. Re:Please die 3D by Captain+Spam · · Score: 2

    Well, as we learned earlier on Slashdot, according to some theories, the universe WAS 2D a while ago. Maybe if we get enough complaints, we can roll back to there and leave out depth until we patch the bugs in the laws of physics. It wouldn't lay ALL that is 3D to death, as this universe is going to need to upgrade eventually to stay competitive with other universes, but it should make dimensional comprehension easier for now.

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  9. Re:not that big a deal by h4rr4r · · Score: 3, Funny

    Up and down the middle isle of course. You can use the stewardesses and meal carts as hurdles.

  10. Long charging time is GOOD by hcdejong · · Score: 2

    It's my observation that short charging times lead to early battery replacement. I'd rather the charger take it a bit slower and avoid overheating or overcharging the battery.

    1. Re:Long charging time is GOOD by cyberfin · · Score: 2

      I have to agree. Plus, I'm guessing nintendo does NOT want the 3DS to be plagued with complaints of bad battery lifespan

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  11. Sad is right by oGMo · · Score: 2

    4.5 hours is what I'd call sad ... note that the metric is just a useful one based on time-to-die from a full charge while playing under certain settings. Realistic use is going to be play for an hour or few, suspend, play some more, suspend, etc. This eats up that juice with a lot of non-play-time. Unless you're diligent about plugging it in every time you turn it off (unreasonable for what should be a portable unit), every time you turn this on it'll be dead or dying.

    This is essentially the insult on top of the "barely upgraded graphics" and "3D gives you a headache and only works if the device and your head are absolutely stationary" injury. (If you don't believe these are true, go try one ... Best Buy has demo units. 3D is definitely cool and I'd rather they just used polarized glasses.) My guess is they assume you're actually going to play with the thing on its charging base screwed to a table, so battery life wouldn't be an issue anyway.

    Anyhow this unit is definitely the "original GBA" of its generation. I'm sure it'll be cited along with the "no backlight" design of the original GBA as "bad decisions that made a desirable device nearly unplayable". I'll stick with my DS Lite until they have the 3DSi Lite SP Turbo Plus Platinum XL or whatever the second revision is called.

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  12. Maybe it was an intentional design decision.... by HuntingHades · · Score: 2

    Besides keeping the cost and and size down by not fitting in a larger battery, this could also be a strategic choice to help reduce potential claims of eye strain/injury due to extended play sessions. They've already warned that children shouldn't really use the 3D feature on it, and even adults probably shouldn't use it more than a couple of hours at a time, as our eyes aren't really meant to look at "faked" 3D for extended periods of time.

    I actually got a chance to try it out at Best Buy yesterday, and I have say the 3D was pretty good for the little demo I got to play (Pilotwings Resort), and the depth is easily adjustable with the slider on the side. The analog stick works well too. The only uncomfortable thing about using it was that Best Buy has it hard mounted to a stand about 36 inches off the ground and you're supposed to be 10-14 inches away from the screen for the 3D.

    I can understand some complaints about the battery life for long flights or being stuck at the airport, but maybe users could try something else for a while, like reading?

  13. Or play while charging... by tlhIngan · · Score: 2

    If you're near an outlet, perhaps the solution is to simply play while tethered to a charger?

    Won't help on international flights in cattle class with no seat power, but the old long car ride just means a connection to the cigarette lighter (or 12V power point these days since fewer cars are coming with real lighters).

    Then it's 2-4 hours while away from a convenient plug, which is probably adequate.

    And heck, you know the third party accessories are going to address this issue in their own ways, too.

  14. Ugh, here we go again by markass530 · · Score: 2

    I got caught up in the last couple Nintendo systems. I bought the first gameboy advance, with no backlighting, then the SP came out. I bought the Original DS, which was bulky as shit, then the Lite came out. Never again. I'll wait for the 3DS with better battery life.

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  16. Re:not that big a deal by BenoitRen · · Score: 2

    According to the article, that's 4.5 hours with 3D OFF, WIRELESS OFF, and SOUND OFF. Still think it's decent?

    I remember getting 4.5 hours on a cheap set of battery's on the grey gameboy and I was sound as a pound.

    Those batteries must have been of very low quality, as you can easily get something like 30 hours out of an original Game Boy.