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Firefox 4 Released!

A great number of readers have written in to tell us that Mozilla has officially announced the final, official, Firefox 4.0. Congrats to all the developers who have code in the build. If you want some neat eye candy, you can watch a sweet visualization showing where the downloaders are.

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  1. Re:Awsome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hope Mozilla makes the next version as secure as IE9

    What a horrible thing to say

  2. This is good news! by aBaldrich · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The visualization at http://glow.mozilla.org/ is really nice, and I like the fact that there are over 120 downloads every second!
    By the way, my firefox updated automatically, does anybody know if it counted as a download?

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  3. Re:Slow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I just downloaded and installed FF4, and unlike what I had expected from the new version, FF4 is actually noticeably slower on most websites, including Slashdot :-/

    Performance: Firefox is up to six times faster than the previous release. With improved start-up and page load times, speedy Web app performance and hardware accelerated graphics, Firefox is optimized for rich, interactive websites.

    I think I see the problem here..

  4. Re:Slow! by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's a feature.

    Everyone and their mother is coming out with faster web browsers. IE9 boasts increased performance. Chrome has been blowing away the competition with its blazing fast Javascript engine.

    No one is coming out with a browser that takes its time. Until now. FF4 takes the concept of performance and turns it on its head.

    Aren't you tired of websites that instantly display? Don't you like reading your favorite site leisurely? What if you could have that plus random crashes and uncontrollable memory leaks?

    What would you pay for something like that? Would you pay $100 for software of that quality? What if I told you that you could have all this and more for the low, low price of $59.95?

    That's right! A slow browser, massive memory leaks, and random crashes in your computer today for only $59.95!

    If you act now, I'll throw in a set of plug-ins that will turn your modern day CPU into the legacy system of yesteryear!

    Firefox 4! Bring computing back to the speed of life.

    Call now. Operators are standing by.

  5. Re:When is 3d support going into Linux? by royallthefourth · · Score: 4, Insightful

    According to something I think I read on Phoronix a couple weeks back, it support the binary Nvidia driver already. They say that trying acceleration with any other Linux driver crashes way too often to be shipped enabled.

    You're waiting on the driver vendors to fix their shit, not Firefox.

  6. Re:Do not want by tokul · · Score: 3, Insightful

    without a good reason...

    Privacy and avoiding data miner look like pretty good reasons for me.

  7. Does it still have the AwfulBar? by gumpish · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Does it still have the AwfulBar?

    Not interested.

    1. Re:Does it still have the AwfulBar? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Does it still have the AwfulBar?

      Not interested.

      Do a quick comparison between FF's location bar and Chrome's. Try to get to multiple book marked URLs that are on the same domain. What I find is that FF has a very rich and useful built in search/regex matching function in it's location bar, where as chrome has a very basic auto-complete.

      I can easily type in multiple partial words into the location bar, (even just a couple letters) and easily find bookmarks that I use for work. With Chrome I have to type out the full url, or if a partial match is found, I have to still edit the URL to get where I want to go.

      It also _learns_ and remembers the most hit URLs for partial words.

      It seems Google doesn't want you searching your bookmarks at all, especially not from your browser locally. It seems like it wants to make you use their online services for something this basic.

      -anon

    2. Re:Does it still have the AwfulBar? by VGPowerlord · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't want to search my bookmarks through my url bar. I already have my bookmarks sorted by category.

      Seriously, more and more apps are enabling users to be absolute slobs with their data and try to "help." Those of us who already organized our data get these unhelpful, resource hogging "features" that we can't disable.

      My bookmarks/files/etc are perfectly organized already! I don't need Firefox/iTunes/etc reorganizing my stuff for me, or helping me to find it!

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    3. Re:Does it still have the AwfulBar? by tomp · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Disabling the awesome bar solves part of the problem. However, it doesn't restore the functionality the location bar had before it was replaced by the awesome bar.

      It's not just the the awesome sucks. It's that mozilla removed something that worked and replaced it with something that doesn't. Turning off the part that doesn't work is insufficient to solve the problem.

    4. Re:Does it still have the AwfulBar? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Seriously, more and more apps are enabling users to be absolute slobs with their data and try to "help." Those of us who already organized our data get these unhelpful, resource hogging "features" that we can't disable.

      I hear you on "can't be disabled", but "resource hogging"? Come on. In these days of TBs of HD space and GBs of RAM, do you honestly think that the improved location bar is gonna have any noticeable effect on your browsing? Please.

      My bookmarks/files/etc are perfectly organized already! I don't need Firefox/iTunes/etc reorganizing my stuff for me, or helping me to find it!

      It's great that you organize things so neatly, but most people don't. Firefox caters to the 99.99% first and foremost, not the 0.01%.

      What's more, the improved location bar is for more than automatic bookmark organization. I use both Firefox and Opera, and I always find it extremely irritating when I'm trying to find an article or website I looked at in the past again and can't easily do so because I viewed it in Opera and only remember the title or perhaps part of the URL, not the domain name.

      Maybe this doesn't happen often for you, but it happens quite often for me. Suppose that in three months, I'd want to go back to this story. In Firefox, I can just type in "slashdot firefox 4 release", and the right article will pop up instantly (along with "Firefox 4 RC1 Released", "Firefox 4 the Last Big Release From Mozilla", "Firefox 4 Beta 12 Released Fixes Over 650 Bugs" and others).

      In Opera? I'd be at a loss: I'd have to use Slashdot's search function, or an external site like Google. Not so bad, perhaps, but still inconvenient, and it DOES break down for sites that a) have a sucky or non-existent search and b) aren't indexed by Google. This happens quite often for web forums of all kinds, BTW, especially those that require you to sign up before you can view (most) boards.

      TL;DR - yes, it should be configurable, but it's also useful. And it's been part of Firefox since 3.0, so if you still think it's going away, dream on (or alternatively fork Firefox).

  8. Re:Yes download now for all the latest security ho by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Which will take them 6 months to fix as they concentrate on pleasing the Oooh shiny! crowd with ever more useless bells and whistles.

    Cynic? Moi?

    Yup, as everyone knows, new = insecure and old = secure. That's why I stick with good ol' IE 6: It's been out so long, I know all the holes have been patched.

  9. How to restore the older tabs look: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Right click on the blank gray space next to the tabs and uncheck the "Tabs on Top" property. That will put the tabs back below the location bar, where they belong.

    1. Re:How to restore the older tabs look: by Globe199 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This was the first thing I did. If I want to use Chrome, I'll use Chrome.

      Change for change's sake.

  10. Re:Awsome! by larry+bagina · · Score: 4, Informative

    Did you know subscribers can see articles in the future?

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  11. Re:Awsome! by amicusNYCL · · Score: 4, Insightful

    According to the download page, the new version includes "even more awesomeness". No word on whether or not the level of suck has decreased.

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  12. Re:Do not want by DrXym · · Score: 4, Informative

    Went to Chrome... Not looking back without a good reason...

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  13. Re:Awsome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    No, the tin foil hat he's wearing probably blocked that information out.

  14. Re:Slow! -- XP user? by MetalliQaZ · · Score: 4, Informative

    Are you using Windows XP? I find that FF4 is slower than FF3.6 on my work computer (winXP) but faster on my home computer (vista). The new version renders using Direct2D on Vista and Win7, but uses software rendering on anything older. I'm sure you lose a lot in that mode of operation.

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  15. Re:Awsome! by ifiwereasculptor · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Mozilla? Really? Look at the high, freshly registered UID and the weird way he got to praising products that aren't really related to the discussion at all.

    And I hope Mozilla makes the next version as secure as IE9 with its sandboxing and all the extra security features Microsoft has build on Windows 7.

    See divxo et al for more info. Still, it's good that the shills are learning. They are at least trying to emulate what they perceive to be a typical slashdotter's speech. Not that it's working just yet, but they are making some efforts. There are a lot of inconsistencies that they must iron out, though, so they should lurk moar. That's mostly for 4chan, not /., if you're taking notes (which I recommend you do).

    also the only browser with Chrome to fight bad the big guys and doesn't support the evil H.264 - someones have to fight for our rights!

    Whle there are some weird people out there, most people who are averse to corporations and patents refrain from phrasing their opinions as if they were five-year-olds. "Evil H.264" just don't cut it as believable material. But it's ok, at least it's an effort. I must point out, though, that if you're against the "big guys", you probably won't gratuitously draw attention to their product being so superior.

    the succesful look that Opera has and made Firefox look as good as Opera

    This was an understandable mistake. But most of us, if we really care enough to keep voicing our opinions about browsers, will pick one or two. I'm yet to see someone describing with such (poorly worded) passion all browsers. If Chrome, Opera, Firefox and IE9 are all so cool and good, I'd expect a "meh, all browsers are pretty competent nowadays", not "hey, Firefox is great, it's now as great as Opera is great, and Google rules because it defies "bad the big guys" and IE9 is so secure WOW so glad to b here guys!". To get a little more believable, how about choosing one browser to focus on as a favorite? Tell us why you use it etc. Make up some stories. It's cool, a lot of people here are doing it right now. Some are even becoming lawyers or war veterans, so retroactively using a software for a couple of days seems comparatively easy. I really wish for the shills to get better. They can still defend a product to their employer's heart's content, but doing so believably would be better for al of us. Not that quality is always necessary to blend in, since the standards aren't that high, but avoiding glaring oversights is, otherwise they'll only blend in with the trolls.

  16. I love the AwesomeBar by rsborg · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have numerous dev/test sites with similar addresses that change name/config almost weekly. With Firefox/awesomebar, I can just type the differentiator directly into the browser instead of making a bookmark (which in a week or two will be out of date anyway).

    As a web engineer, Firefox has no peer yet. Chrome/Safari are nice, and do offer features and speed that FF doesn't (at least on OSX), but Firefox (thanks to awesomebar) keeps me productive in a very dynamic work environment.

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  17. All good except DirectWrite font rendering. by guidryp · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When I first fired it up, my first thought was: "Yuk, What happened to the fonts?"

    Some searching revealed this is the MS Win7 DirectWrite Font rendering(IE 9 does the same thing).

    Disable HW acceleration and all is well with my fonts.

    Why does DirectWrite font rendering look so awful? Do other people actually prefer this (fonts are thicker and closer to together).

    1. Re:All good except DirectWrite font rendering. by testerus · · Score: 4, Informative
  18. Re:Addon compatibility? by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here's my FF4 upgrade plan:

    1. Use FEBE to create a backup of my entire user profile
    2. Bookmark All Tabs to preserve as much of my running session as possible.
    3. Upgrade to FF4.0
    4. Note any incompatible extensions, decide whether or not to roll back.

    If I decide to roll back:

    1. Remove FF4
    2. Reinstall 3.6.15
    3. Install FEBE
    4. Restore FEBE backup
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  19. Re:Can't switch 'til delicious add-on works by izblah · · Score: 5, Informative

    Have you tried creating a new bool in Firefox's "about:config" ? - Navigate to the following page: about:config - Tell Firefox you'll be careful - Right click in empty white-space and select New -> Boolean from the context menu - Enter the following for the new value: extensions.checkCompatibility.4.0 - Set it to False - Restart Firefox... All of my extensions have worked no prob using this work-around. Until the add-on devs update their wares, this should suffice...

  20. Re:Stop the tab bar animating? by mccalli · · Score: 3, Informative

    To answer my own question: yes, there is..

    Cheers,
    Ian

  21. Mozilla Firefox, Portable Edition 4.0 Released by CritterNYC · · Score: 3

    As always, we posted the portable version within a few hours over at PortableApps.com. As we did an extended test of version 4.0 portably following the whole 4.0 beta and RC process, it's turned out to be a nice, stable release. It's great for running from your flash drive, DropBox or just trying out a new firefox install without affecting your local one.

    Release Announcement | Mozilla Firefox, Portable Edition 4.0 homepage

  22. Re:Slow! by arth1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually, I'm running it right now (in order to access an internal site).
    VMware + Windows 7 + IE9 uses less memory than a native FF4 which has been running for a few hours. That's rather sad.